http://www.newsweek.com/id/35577
"Isaacson brings out something that scholars have only recently grasped, and which most textbooks get wrong: Einstein did not discover special relativity because of the Michelson-Morley experiment."
Soon the same scholars will discover both that no eclipse experiment has ever confirmed Divine Albert's Divine Theory and that "le monde entier a cru pendant plus de cinquante ans à une théorie non vérifiée":
Pentcho coies the from an article: "Isaacson brings out something that scholars have only recently grasped, and which most textbooks get wrong: Einstein did not discover special relativity because of the Michelson-Morley experiment."
cinci: Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not.
By the way, the rest of the article says Einstein was a flaming genius. Do you believe that also? Or do you just pick and choose, taking things out of context to weave your ridiculous diatrabes against Eisntein.
Cincirob: "Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not"
AAF: The Michelson and Morley motivated Fitzgerald, who motivated Lorentz, who in turn motivated Einstein. It's a small world; isn't it? By the way, do you still believe an observer (any observer) can see spheres of light around any source of light in motion or at rest?
Cincirob: "There is one sphere of light and two observers. The relativistic demand is that all inertial observers see a sphere".
AAF: The observer can't see a sphere of light. It's impossible for the observer to see a sphere of light centered on the source. That is because, at any given moment, the observer can see only the light rays that come straight and along straight lines towards him.
Cincirob: "There is but one sphere and an infinite number of inertial observers will all see it as a sphere...one sphere....the same sphere".
AAF: Stop the stubbornness!
Observers can only see the light coming straight upon them.
Cincirob: "Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not. By the way, the rest of the article says Einstein was a flaming genius. Do you believe that also? Or do you just pick and choose, taking things out of context to weave your ridiculous diatrabes against Einstein”.
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says? Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob: "So you don't believe in Reimann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to RJ & CCC & Ben!
Cincirob: "More Stuff from AAF".
AAF: Well, it's more stuff from Cincirob too!
Cincirob: "Yes, but my stuff makes sense".
AAF: That is just the turtle thinks its leg is beautiful!
Cincirob: "Do you speak to turtles? Do they speak back? Is this where you get your anti-relativity rhetoric"?
Cincirob: "Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not"
AAF: The Michelson and Morley motivated Fitzgerald, who motivated Lorentz, who in turn motivated Einstein. It's a small world; isn't it? By the way, do you still believe an observer (any observer) can see spheres of light around any source of light in motion or at rest?
cinci: You may wish to call the gentleman a liar since he is dead and can't correct you, but I prefer to believe what he said. No, nobody believes that. Using the word "see" is a convenient way of communicating but since your real goals don't include accurate communication, you will try to make a mountain out of this mole hill. It would be possible for each observer to instrument a physical manifestation of his inertial frame and show that the wavefront of light was indeed a sphere. of course one would have to set clocks and such which you seem to think is impossible. Is it possible that youhave an VCR that has been flashing 12:00 ever since you plugged it in?
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Cincirob: "There is one sphere of light and two observers. The relativistic demand is that all inertial observers see a sphere".
AAF: The observer can't see a sphere of light. It's impossible for the observer to see a sphere of light centered on the source. That is because, at any given moment, the observer can see only the light rays that come straight and along straight lines towards him.
cinci: Explained above. I guess you couldn't figure it out yourself?
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Cincirob: "There is but one sphere and an infinite number of inertial observers will all see it as a sphere...one sphere....the same sphere".
AAF: Stop the stubbornness!
Observers can only see the light coming straight upon them.
cinci: Again, explained above. Get a clue. And one could observer light approaching him from a wide angle....I guess you never heard of peripheral vision.
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Cincirob: "Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not. By the way, the rest of the article says Einstein was a flaming genius. Do you believe that also? Or do you just pick and choose, taking things out of context to weave your ridiculous diatrabes against Einstein”.
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says?..........
cinci: I dont' know everything that Einstein said. Do you?
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AAF: ....Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob: "So you don't believe in Reimann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to RJ & CCC & Ben!
cinci: So you don't think geometry is part of mathematics? Funnyu, they told me I'd get 4 years of mathematics in high school but I guess I only got 2 according to you.
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Cincirob: "Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not".
AAF: Michelson and Morley motivated Fitzgerald, who motivated Lorentz, who in turn motivated Einstein. It's a small world; isn't it? By the way, do you still believe an observer (any observer) can see spheres of light around any source of light in motion or at rest?
Cincirob: "There is one sphere of light and two observers. The relativistic demand is that all inertial observers see a sphere”.
AAF: The observer can't see a sphere of light. It's impossible for the observer to see a sphere of light centered on the source. That is because, at any given moment, the observer can see only the light rays that come straight and along straight lines towards him.
Cincirob: "There is but one sphere and an infinte number of inertial observers will all see it as a sphere...one sphere....the same sphere".
AAF: Stop the stubbornness!
Observers can only see the light coming straight upon them.
Cincirob: "Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not. By the way, the rest of the article says Einstein was a flaming genius. Do you believe that also? Or do you just pick and choose, taking things out of context to weave your ridiculous diatrabes against Einstein".
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says? Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob: "I don't know everything that Einstein said. Do you? You may wish to call the gentleman a liar since he is dead and can't correct you, but I prefer to believe what he said. No, nobody believes that. Using the word "see" is a convenient way of communicating but since your real goals don't include accurate communication, you will try to make a mountain out of this mole hill. It would be possible for each observer to instrument a physical manifestation of his inertial frame and show that the wavefront of light was indeed a sphere. of course one would have to set clocks and such which you seem to think is impossible. Is it possible that you have an VCR that has been flashing 12:00 ever since you plugged it in? So you don't believe in Reimann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: He didn't say much; I bet you've said, since high school, much more than him! Anyway, you may picture the sphere of light in your mind and in your mind only, but you cannot see it or claim to see it by your own eyes! Also, Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to RJ!
Cincirob: "Explained above. I guess you couldn't figure it out yourself? So you don't think geometry is part of mathematics? Funnyu, they told me I'd get 4 years of mathematics in high school but I guess I only got 2 according to you”.
Cincirob: "Again, explained above. Get a clue. And one could observer light approaching him from a wide angle....I guess you never heard of peripheral vision”.
AAF: “Funnyu”! The source of light, in all Einstein's gedanken experiments, is always assumed to be 'point source'. And so try another one; no wide-angle approaching of light is possible.
Cincirob: "More Stuff from AAF".
AAF: Well, it's more stuff from Cincirob too!
Cincirob: "Yes, but my stuff makes sense".
AAF: That is just the turtle thinks its leg is beautiful!
Cincirob: "Do you speak to turtles? Do they speak back? Is this where you get your anti-relativity rhetoric"?
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says? Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob: "I don't know everything that Einstein said. Do you? You may wish to call the gentleman a liar since he is dead and can't correct you, but I prefer to believe what he said. No, nobody believes that. Using the word "see" is a convenient way of communicating but since your real goals don't include accurate communication, you will try to make a mountain out of this mole hill. It would be possible for each observer to instrument a physical manifestation of his inertial frame and show that the wavefront of light was indeed a sphere. of course one would have to set clocks and such which you seem to think is impossible. Is it possible that you have an VCR that has been flashing 12:00 ever since you plugged it in? So you don't believe in Reimann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: He didn't say much; I bet you've said, since high school, much more than him! Anyway, you may picture the sphere of light in your mind and in your mind only, but you cannot see it or claim to see it by your own eyes! Also, Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to RJ!
cinci: Still not paying attention, I see. I just explained to you what one can see. I guess you just don't get it.
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Cincirob: "Explained above. I guess you couldn't figure it out yourself? So you don't think geometry is part of mathematics? Funny, they told me I'd get 4 years of mathematics in high school but I guess I only got 2 according to you”.
AAF: It can't be observed. And you are not a schoolboy anymore!
cinci: Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. Youseem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices.
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AAF: Mathematics is a much bigger field than geometry:...........And you just can't call the State of Ohio 'the United States of America'; and say 'funnyu, they told me'!
cinci: Always finding errors where none exists. Geometry is mathematics. So are algebra and arithmetic. And if you are in the State of Ohio you are in the United States of America. Just like if you are working with geometry, you are doing mathematics.
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Cincirob: "Again, explained above. Get a clue. And one could observer light approaching him from a wide angle....I guess you never heard of peripheral vision”.
AAF: “Funnyu”!
cinci: I see I've reduced you to arguing about typographical errors. Is this all you have?
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AAF: The source of light, in all Einstein's gedanken experiments, is always assumed to be 'point source'. And so try another one; no wide-angle approaching of light is possible.
cinci: I don't limit my worldview to Eisntein's gedanken experiments. I'm surpised that you do considering you don't understand the theory.
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AAF: That is just the turtle thinks its leg is beautiful!
Cincirob: "Do you speak to turtles? Do they speak back? Is this where you get your anti-relativity rhetoric"?
cinci: You should learn from the example of the turtle. Every time you proffered one of your misguided theories about relativity I have destroyed it. Perhaps you should have pulled them all back into your shell.
Cincirob: “Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not”.
AAF: Michelson and Morley motivated Fitzgerald, who motivated Lorentz, who in turn motivated Einstein. It's a small world; isn't it? By the way, do you still believe an observer (any observer) can see spheres of light around any source of light in motion or at rest?
Cincirob: “There is one sphere of light and two observers. The relativistic demand is that all inertial observers see a sphere”.
AAF: The observer can't see a sphere of light. It's impossible for the observer to see a sphere of light centered on the source. That is because, at any given moment, the observer can see only the light rays that come straight and along straight lines towards him.
Cincirob: “There is but one sphere and an infinite number of inertial observers will all see it as a sphere...one sphere....the same sphere”.
AAF: Stop the stubbornness! Observers can only see the light coming straight upon them.
Cincirob: “Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not.
By the way, the rest of the article says Einstein was a flaming genius. Do you believe that also? Or do you just pick and choose, taking things out of context to weave your ridiculous diatrabes against Einstein”.
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says? Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob: "Still not paying attention, I see. I just explained to you what one can see. I guess you just don't get it. I dont' know everything that Einstein said. Do you? You may wish to call the gentleman a liar since he is dead and can't correct you, but I prefer to believe what he said. No, nobody believes that. Using the word "see" is a convenient way of communicating but since your real goals don't include accurate communication, you will try to make a mountain out of this mole hill. It would be possible for each observer to instrument a physical manifestation of his inertial frame and show that the wavefront of light was indeed a sphere. of course one would have to set clocks and such which you seem to think is impossible. Is it possible that you have an VCR that has been flashing 12:00 ever since you plugged it in? So you don't believe in Riemann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: He didn't say much; I bet you've said, since high school, much more than him! Anyway, you may picture the sphere of light in your mind and in your mind only, but you cannot see it or claim to see it with your own eyes! Also, Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to Ben & RJ & CCC & Joe!
Cincirob: “Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. You seem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Explained above. I guess you couldn't figure it out yourself? So you don't think geometry is part of mathematics? Funnyu, they told me I'd get 4 years of mathematics in high school but I guess I only got 2 according to you”.
Cincirob: “I don't limit my worldview to Einstein's gedanken experiments. I'm surpised that you do considering you don't understand the theory. I see I've reduced you to arguing about typographical errors. Is this all you have? Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. You seem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Always finding errors where none exists. Geometry is mathematics. So are algebra and arithmetic. And if you are in the State of Ohio you are in the United States of America. Just like if you are working with geometry, you are doing mathematics. Again, explained above. Get a clue. And one could observer light approaching him from a wide angle....I guess you never heard of peripheral vision”.
AAF: “Funnyu”! Who is talking about 'typographical errors'? And you have to limit your 'worldview' here to Einstein's imaginary experiments. His Special Relativity is the main topic; right? The source of light, in all Einstein's gedanken experiments, is always assumed to be a 'point source'. And so try another one; no wide-angle approaching of light is possible.
Cincirob: "More Stuff from AAF".
AAF: Well, it's more stuff from Cincirob too!
Cincirob: "Yes, but my stuff makes sense".
AAF: That is just the turtle thinks its leg is beautiful!
Cincirob: "Do you speak to turtles? Do they speak back? Is this where you get your anti-relativity rhetoric"?
Cincirob: "You should learn from the example of the turtle. Every time you proffered one of your misguided theories about relativity I have destroyed it. Perhaps you should have pulled them all back into your shell”.
AAF: So now, you do learn to speak to the turtles; don't you? And you do call my remarks on your remarks 'theories'; I like that!
Re: EINSTEINIANA AS PARODY
July 4 2008, 1:07 PM
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says? Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob: "Still not paying attention, I see. I just explained to you what one can see. I guess you just don't get it. I dont' know everything that Einstein said. Do you? You may wish to call the gentleman a liar since he is dead and can't correct you, but I prefer to believe what he said. No, nobody believes that. Using the word "see" is a convenient way of communicating but since your real goals don't include accurate communication, you will try to make a mountain out of this mole hill. It would be possible for each observer to instrument a physical manifestation of his inertial frame and show that the wavefront of light was indeed a sphere. of course one would have to set clocks and such which you seem to think is impossible. Is it possible that you have an VCR that has been flashing 12:00 ever since you plugged it in? So you don't believe in Riemann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: He didn't say much; I bet you've said, since high school, much more than him! Anyway, you may picture the sphere of light in your mind and in your mind only, but you cannot see it or claim to see it with your own eyes! Also, Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to Ben & RJ & CCC & Joe!
cinci: Already explained. Apparently you don't get it. Maybe you want to waste time repeating your bad ideas, but I don't want to waste time repeating my corrections.
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Cincirob: “Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. You seem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Explained above. I guess you couldn't figure it out yourself? So you don't think geometry is part of mathematics? Funnyu, they told me I'd get 4 years of mathematics in high school but I guess I only got 2 according to you”.
Cincirob: “I don't limit my worldview to Einstein's gedanken experiments. I'm surpised that you do considering you don't understand the theory. I see I've reduced you to arguing about typographical errors. Is this all you have? Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. You seem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Always finding errors where none exists. Geometry is mathematics. So are algebra and arithmetic. And if you are in the State of Ohio you are in the United States of America. Just like if you are working with geometry, you are doing mathematics. Again, explained above. Get a clue. And one could observer light approaching him from a wide angle....I guess you never heard of peripheral vision”.
AAF: “Funnyu”! Who is talking about 'typographical errors'?
cinci: Oh, I'm sorry. Apparently you think there is a word "funnyu".
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AAF: And you have to limit your 'worldview' here to Einstein's imaginary experiments. His Special Relativity is the main topic; right? The source of light, in all Einstein's gedanken experiments, is always assumed to be a 'point source'. And so try another one; no wide-angle approaching of light is possible.
cinci: No, I am not limited to his imaginary experiments. There are plenty of real ones that confirm the imaginary ones.
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Cincirob: "You should learn from the example of the turtle. Every time you proffered one of your misguided theories about relativity I have destroyed it. Perhaps you should have pulled them all back into your shell”.
AAF: So now, you do learn to speak to the turtles; don't you? And you do call my remarks on your remarks 'theories'; I like that!
cinci: No, I just read your example. Did you forget you wrote it?
And yes, I call your ideas "theories" because they obviously aren't realities.
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Cincirob: “Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not”.
AAF: Michelson and Morley motivated Fitzgerald, who motivated Lorentz, who in turn motivated Einstein. It's a small world; isn't it? By the way, do you still believe an observer (any observer) can see spheres of light around any source of light in motion or at rest?
Cincirob: “There is one sphere of light and two observers. The relativistic demand is that all inertial observers see a sphere”.
AAF: The observer can't see a sphere of light. It's impossible for the observer to see a sphere of light centered on the source. That is because, at any given moment, the observer can see only the light rays that come straight and along straight lines towards him.
Cincirob: “There is but one sphere and an infinite number of inertial observers will all see it as a sphere...one sphere....the same sphere”.
AAF: Stop the stubbornness! Observers can only see the light coming straight upon them.
Cincirob: “Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not.
By the way, the rest of the article says Einstein was a flaming genius. Do you believe that also? Or do you just pick and choose, taking things out of context to weave your ridiculous diatrabes against Einstein”.
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says? Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob: "Already explained. Apparently you don't get it. Maybe you want to waste time repeating your bad ideas, but I don't want to waste time repeating my corrections. Still not paying attention, I see. I just explained to you what one can see. I guess you just don't get it. I dont' know everything that Einstein said. Do you? You may wish to call the gentleman a liar since he is dead and can't correct you, but I prefer to believe what he said. No, nobody believes that. Using the word "see" is a convenient way of communicating but since your real goals don't include accurate communication, you will try to make a mountain out of this mole hill. It would be possible for each observer to instrument a physical manifestation of his inertial frame and show that the wavefront of light was indeed a sphere. of course one would have to set clocks and such which you seem to think is impossible. Is it possible that you have an VCR that has been flashing 12:00 ever since you plugged it in? So you don't believe in Reimann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: You can't repeat your 'corrections', because your 'corrections' are already locked up in the Juvenile Correction Center in Cincinnati: http://www.indeed.com/q-Juvenile-Detention-Officer-l-Cincinnati-Ohio-jobs.html
Einstein didn't say much; I bet you've said, since high school, much more than him! Anyway, you may picture the sphere of light in your mind and in your mind only, but you cannot see it or claim to see it with your own eyes! Also, Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to Ben & RJ & CCC & Joe!
Cincirob: “Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. Youseem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Explained above. I guess you couldn't figure it out yourself? So you don't think geometry is part of mathematics? Funnyu, they told me I'd get 4 years of mathematics in high school but I guess I only got 2 according to you”.
Cincirob: “Oh, I'm sorry. Apparently you think there is a word "funnyu". No, I am not limited to his imaginary experiments. There are plenty of real ones that confirm the imaginary ones. I don't limit my worldview to Eisntein's gedanken experiments. I'm surpised that you do considering you don't understand the theory. I see I've reduced you to arguing about typographical errors. Is this all you have? Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. You seem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Always finding errors where none exists. Geometry is mathematics. So are algebra and arithmetic. And if you are in the State of Ohio you are in the United States of America. Just like if you are working with geometry, you are doing mathematics. Again, explained above. Get a clue. And one could observer light approaching him from a wide angle....I guess you never heard of peripheral vision”.
AAF: “Funnyu”! Who is talking about 'typographical errors'? I thought it's original; but it turns out just like your other 'bad ideas': http://www.metacafe.com/tags/funnyu/
And you have to limit your 'worldview' here to Einstein's imaginary and real experiments. His Special Relativity is the main topic; correct? The source of light, in all Einstein's gedanken experiments, is always assumed to be a 'point source'. And so try another one; no wide-angle approaching of light is possible.
Cincirob: "More Stuff from AAF".
AAF: Well, it's more stuff from Cincirob too!
Cincirob: "Yes, but my stuff makes sense".
AAF: That is just the turtle thinks its leg is beautiful!
Cincirob: "Do you speak to turtles? Do they speak back? Is this where you get your anti-relativity rhetoric"?
Cincirob: "And yes, I call your ideas "theories" because they obviously aren't realities. You should learn from the example of the turtle. Every time you proffered one of your misguided theories about relativity I have destroyed it. Perhaps you should have pulled them all back into your shell”.
AAF: Are you trying to shoot down Einstein's theories? Yes, now, you do learn to speak to the turtles. And you do call my remarks on your remarks 'theories' just like those of Einstein; I like that!
Re: EINSTEINIANA AS PARODY
July 5 2008, 12:33 AM
AAF: You can't repeat your 'corrections',
cinci: I can, but I don't. You never get it.
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AAF: “Funnyu”! Who is talking about 'typographical errors'? I thought it's original; but it turns out just like your other 'bad ideas':
cinci: Running all my answers together isn't going to help- you. You can't understand them one at a time. Stop trying to confuse yourself....further.
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Cincirob: "And yes, I call your ideas "theories" because they obviously aren't realities. You should learn from the example of the turtle. Every time you proffered one of your misguided theories about relativity I have destroyed it. Perhaps you should have pulled them all back into your shell”.
AAF: Are you trying to shoot down Einstein's theories?
cinci: Do you reallly read this poorly? Get someone to help you.
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AAF: Yes, now, you do learn to speak to the turtles. And you do call my remarks on your remarks 'theories' just like those of Einstein; I like that!
cinci: I like it too. You usually state your ideas as if they are fact. Understanding that they are just theories means I'm gettin through to you. Now when you figure out that all your theories fail when tested while Einstein's always succeed, you will begin to understand.
Cincirob:“Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not”.
AAF: Michelson and Morley motivated Fitzgerald, who motivated Lorentz, who in turn motivated Einstein. It's a small world; isn't it? By the way, do you still believe an observer (any observer) can see spheres of light around any source of light in motion or at rest?
Cincirob:“There is one sphere of light and two observers. The relativistic demand is that all inertial observers see a sphere”.
AAF: The observer can't see a sphere of light. It's impossible for the observer to see a sphere of light centered on the source. That is because, at any given moment, the observer can see only the light rays that come straight and along straight lines towards him.
Cincirob:“There is but one sphere and an infinite number of inertial observers will all see it as a sphere...one sphere....the same sphere”.
AAF: Stop the stubbornness! Observers can only see the light coming straight upon them.
Cincirob:“Do you believe everything you read? Einstein was asked many times over his life if the Michelson-Morely experiment prompted him to develop special relativity. He always claimed that it did not. By the way, the rest of the article says Einstein was a flaming genius. Do you believe that also? Or do you just pick and choose, taking things out of context to weave your ridiculous diatrabes against Einstein”.
AAF: Do you believe anything that Einstein says? Einstein proudly declares that a physical theory which satisfies his postulate of General Covariance will also satisfy his General Postulate of Relativity, because the sum of all substitutions must include all relative motions of three-dimensional systems of co-ordinates. In other words, the Postulate of Relativity has been redefined in terms of the empty symbolism of Riemann's manifolds. So, say goodbye to the old Postulate of Relativity. The old Postulate of Relativity is almost dead!
Cincirob:"I can, but I don't. You never get it. Already explained. Apparently you don't get it. Maybe you want to waste time repeating your bad ideas, but I don't want to waste time repeating my corrections. Still not paying attention, I see. I just explained to you what one can see. I guess you just don't get it. I dont' know everything that Einstein said. Do you? You may wish to call the gentleman a liar since he is dead and can't correct you, but I prefer to believe what he said. No, nobody believes that. Using the word "see" is a convenient way of communicating but since your real goals don't include accurate communication, you will try to make a mountain out of this mole hill. It would be possible for each observer to instrument a physical manifestation of his inertial frame and show that the wavefront of light was indeed a sphere. of course one would have to set clocks and such which you seem to think is impossible. Is it possible that you have an VCR that has been flashing 12:00 ever since you plugged it in? So you don't believe in Reimann mathematics either. No wonder you don't understand anything scientific".
AAF: No! You can't repeat your 'corrections', because your 'corrections' are already locked up in the Juvenile Corrections Center in Cincinnati: http://www.indeed.com/q-Juvenile-Detention-Officer-l-Cincinnati-Ohio-jobs.html
Einstein didn't say much; I bet you've said, since high school, much more than him! Anyway, you may picture the sphere of light in your mind and in your mind only, but you cannot see it or claim to see it with your own eyes! Also, Riemann doesn't have mathematics. He has only geometry. So, go back to Ben & RJ & CCC & Joe!
Cincirob:“Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. Youseem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Explained above. I guess you couldn't figure it out yourself? So you don't think geometry is part of mathematics? Funnyu, they told me I'd get 4 years of mathematics in high school but I guess I only got 2 according to you”.
Cincirob:“Running all my answers together isn't going to help- you. You can't understand them one at a time. Stop trying to confuse yourself....further. Oh, I'm sorry. Apparently you think there is a word "funnyu". No, I am not limited to his imaginary experiments. There are plenty of real ones that confirm the imaginary ones. I don't limit my worldview to Eisntein's gedanken experiments. I'm surpised that you do considering you don't understand the theory. I see I've reduced you to arguing about typographical errors. Is this all you have? Yes, and clocks can't be set and nobody can measure anything. We all just wander around in the dark unable to do any experiments at all. You seem to be unable to comprehend even the simplest of electromechanical devices. Always finding errors where none exists. Geometry is mathematics. So are algebra and arithmetic. And if you are in the State of Ohio you are in the United States of America. Just like if you are working with geometry, you are doing mathematics. Again, explained above. Get a clue. And one could observer light approaching him from a wide angle....I guess you never heard of peripheral vision”.
AAF: “Funnyu”; don't worry about me; I've already dissected them and cut through them from inside and outside! Who is talking about 'typographical errors'? I thought it's original; but it turns out just like your other 'bad ideas': http://www.metacafe.com/tags/funnyu/
And you have to limit your 'worldview' here to Einstein's imaginary and real experiments. His Special Relativity is the main topic; correct? The source of light, in all Einstein's gedanken experiments, is always assumed to be a 'point source'. And so try another one; no wide-angle approaching of light is possible.
Cincirob:"More Stuff from AAF".
AAF: Well, it's more stuff from Cincirob too!
Cincirob:"Yes, but my stuff makes sense".
AAF: That is just the turtle thinks its leg is beautiful!
Cincirob:"Do you speak to turtles? Do they speak back? Is this where you get your anti-relativity rhetoric"?
Cincirob:"Do you really read this poorly? Get someone to help you. And yes, I call your ideas "theories" because they obviously aren't realities. You should learn from the example of the turtle. Every time you proffered one of your misguided theories about relativity I have destroyed it. Perhaps you should have pulled them all back into your shell. I like it too. You usually state your ideas as if they are fact. Understanding that they are just theories means I'm gettin through to you. Now when you figure out that all your theories fail when tested while Einstein's always succeed, you will begin to understand. Happy 4th of July”.
AAF: Don't worry about reading you; I can read your mind or (whatever left of it) from inside out! Now, are you trying to shoot down Einstein's theories with 'friendly fire'? And yes, you do learn to speak to the turtles. And you do call my remarks on your remarks 'theories' just like those of Einstein; I like that very much! Happy 4th of July ... & enjoy the fireworks ...
Re: EINSTEINIANA AS PARODY
July 5 2008, 11:20 AM
AAF: Don't worry about reading you; I can read your mind or (whatever left of it) from inside out! Now, are you trying to shoot down Einstein's theories with 'friendly fire'? And yes, you do learn to speak to the turtles. And you do call my remarks on your remarks 'theories' just like those of Einstein; I like that very much! Happy 4th of July ... & enjoy the fireworks ...
cinci: I get it, you're putting all my answers together so you can take them out of context all at once. It won't work except with Pentcho. Everybody else will see through your obfuscations and bad science.
Got any more Dingle stories....I like to shoot holes in them. Yours are too easy .