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Where does the mass of the particle come from?

April 3 2009 at 5:54 PM
 

 
Where does the mass of the particle come from?

Now the physicists use the Higgs mechanism to give all the
elementary particles masses.

The mechanism requires the Higgs field to be nonzero in the vacuum,
exactly like spontaneous symmetry breaking. In this case, the broken
symmetry is gauged, meaning that the field which fills all of space,
the Higgs condensate, is charged. Gauge fields become massive
when there is a charged condensate, this is called superconductivity.

/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_mechanism /

My comment.
1.
We have Vacuum.
The Vacuum is the homogeneous Space of the lowest
( the background ) level of Energy: E= 0.
The Vacuum is also the homogeneous Space of the lowest
( the background ) level of temperature: T= 0K.
The question is: How can the homogeneous Vacuum be broken?.
2.
If the Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space, so according
to the Quantum Theory it must contains only
the physical - quantum - energetic particles. We named them
virtual particles. The virtual particles is not a pure
philosophical concept that is never observed in practice.
The Quantum Theory says that :
Its effects can be observed in various phenomena
(such as spontaneous emission, the Casimir effect, the
van der Waals bonds, or the Lamb shift), and it is thought
to have consequences for the behavior of the Universe
on cosmological scales.

/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy /.

3.
Question:
How can the virtual particles change the homogeneous Vacuum?

The Higgs mechanism. !!!???

In 1964 Higgs had one big idea, which could hold a clue
to how matter in the universe got its mass in the billionth
of a second after the Big Bang.
Higgs eventually came up with his theory of the Higgs boson,
a boson that gives mass to all other subatomic particles that
happen to interact with it in a Higgs field.
The more they interact, the heavier they become.
And the ones that dont interact dont gather mass.
The theory could not only throw further light on the creation
of the universe, but also help explain the shape of it.
At the European Centre for Nuclear Research
(CERN) in Switzerland the protons will be smashed against
each other at great speed and as result the first Higgs boson
nicknamed the God particle will actually observe .
???
#
In 1906, Rutherford studied internal structure of atoms,
bombarding them with high energy a- particles.
This idea helped him understand the structure of atom.
But the clever Devil interfered and gave advice to physicists
to enlarge the target. Bomb them!
And physicist created huge cannon-accelerators of particles.
And they began to bomb micro particles in the vacuum, in hoping
to understand their inner structure. And they were surprised with
the results of this bombing. Several hundreds of completely new
strange particles appeared. They lived a very little time and do not
relate to our world. Our Earth needs its real constants of nature.
But this was forgotten.
What God carefully created, is destroyed in accelerators.
And they are proud of that. They say: we study the inner structure
of the particles. The clever and artful Devil is glad. He again has deceived man.
Physicist think, that an accelerator - is first of all the presence of huge energy.
And the Devil laughs. He knows, that an accelerator - is first of all the Vacuum.
But this, he has withheld from man.
He has not explained that the Vacuum is infinite and inexhaustible.
And in infinity there is contained an infinite variety of particles.
And by bombing the vacuum, one can find centaurs and sphinxes.
But my God, save us from their presence on Earth.
========= .. ========.
Rutherford was right.
His followers are mistaken.
Why?
Imagine, that I want to plant a small apple- tree.
For this purpose I shall dig out a hole of 1 meter width and 1,20 m depth.
It is normal.
But if to plant a small apple- tree, I shall begin to dig
a base for a huge building (skyscraper),
or if to begin drill ground with 10 km. depth,
will you call me a normal man?
========== .. ===============.
Imagine a man who breaks watches on the wall.
And then he tries to understand the mechanism of the watches
by thrown cogwheels, springs and small screws.
Does he have many chances to succeed?
As many as the scientists have who aspire to understand
the inner structure of electron by breaking them into accelerators.
If not take into account the initial conditions of Genesis,
the fantasies of the scientists may be unlimited.
========== . ======== .
The Nature works very economical.
For example, biologists know 100 ( hundred ) kinds of
amino acids. But only 20 ( twenty) kinds of amino acids
are suitable to produce molecules of protein, from which all
different cells created on our planet. What are about another
80 % of amino acids? They are dead end of evolution.
The physicists found many ( 1000 ) new elementary particles in
accelerators. But we need only one ( 1) electron and one (1 )
proton to create first atom, to begin to create the Nature.
All another elementary particles (mesons, muons , bosons, taus,
all their girlfriends - antiparticles, all quarks and antiquarksetc)
are dead end of evolution.
============.
What was before - the big bang or the vacuum ?
The physicists created Europes Large Hadron Colider
Please, look at how our physicists made this accelerator.
They made the vacuum and after they generated a big reaction
between two colliding particles in some small imitation of the
big bang. They didnt make this process in the reverse.
So, what was prior in the Universe: big bang or vacuum?

#
The Higgs mechanism can be considered as the superconductivity
in the Vacuum.
/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_mechanism /


My question:
How can the natural virtual particles create superconductivity
space in Vacuum?
On my opinion this process in Vacuum connected with
gravitys creation, with stars creation.
===========================..
Question:
How can the homogeneous Vacuum be broken without using
Europes Large Hadron Colider (not by compulsions )
but using the natural virtual particles ?

On my opinion to solve this problem we must understand
only three thing:
1.
What Vacuum is
2.
That physical and geometrical parameters have
the natural virtual particles in Vacuum.
3.
What The Law of Conservation and Transformation of Energy/ Mass"
means according to the natural virtual particles .
============ . .
P.S.
Many years M. Planck was attracted with the
absolutely black body problem.
If quantum of light moving with speed c=1 falls
in area of absolutely black body ( Kirchhoffs Vacuum
radiation /Max Laue / ) and does not radiate back,
then terminal dead comes. In order to save the
quantum of light from death Planck decided that
it is possible that quantum of light will radiate this
quantum of light back with quantum unit h=Et.
Physicists say, that Plancks unit is one: h=1.
Having this unit h=1 photon flies with speed c=1.
This unit doesnt come from formulas or equations.
Planck introduced this unit from heaven, from ceiling.
Sorry. Sorry.
I must write: Planck introduced this unit intuitively.
I must write: Planck introduced unit h phenomenologically
So, where does the Plancks constant ( h) come from?
#
It is important to realize that in physics today, we have
no knowledge of what energy is. We do not have a picture
that energy comes in little blobs of a definite amount.
(Feynman. 1987)
============ . .

 
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sadovnik

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 16 2009, 2:17 PM 

Vacuum and virtual particles.
#
What is the basic substratum which can produce Energy
in the Universe ?
The simplest answer is:
According to Quantum Physics it is some kind of
Infinite/ Eternal Energy Space of Vacuum.
#
Where does the mass of the particle come from?
The simplest answer is:
According to Quantum Physics from virtual particles.
#
Einstein said,
/ we have not proven that the Aether does not exist, we
have merely proven that we do not need it (for computations) /

It is correct that we do not need it (for computations) .
But to understand behavior of elephant we must study savanna.
To understand behavior of whale we must study ocean.
And to study virtual energetic particles in Vacuum we must
know characteristics of Vacuum.

What are Vacuums characteristics ?
a)
The Universe as whole is Vacuum a Kingdom of Coldness.
Now the physicists think that this Kingdom of Coldness as
an Absolute Reference Frame in a state of T=2,7K
( after big bang). But if somebody belief in big bang,
he must take in calculation that T=2,7K expands and therefore
T=2,7K is temporary parameter and with time it will go to T= 0K.
b)
According to Quantum Physics the Vacuum (T= 0K) is some kind
of Homogeneous Space of the lowest ( the background ) level
of Energy: E= 0.
#
So, we have two parameters of Vacuum.
Is it enough to understand all parameters of virtual particles
in the Vacuum without to spend money on searching the
Higgs boson ?
( In 1964 Higgs had one big idea, which could hold a clue
to how matter in the universe got its mass in the billionth
of a second after the Big Bang.
At the European Centre for Nuclear Research
(CERN) in Switzerland the first Higgs boson
- nicknamed the God particle will actually observe . )

In my opinion these two parameters of Vacuum is enough
to understand the all parameters of virtual particles.
!!!

First .

If the Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space, so according
to the Quantum Theory it must contains only
the physical - quantum - energetic particles.
The virtual energetic particles is not a pure philosophical
concept that is never observed in practice.
The Quantum Theory says that :
Its effects can be observed in various phenomena
(such as spontaneous emission, the Casimir effect, the
van der Waals bonds, or the Lamb shift), and it is thought
to have consequences for the behavior of the Universe
on cosmological scales.
/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy /.

Second.

The Vacuum is also the Homogeneous Space of the lowest
( the background ) level of temperature: T= 0K.
If the Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space with the
lowest ( the background ) level of temperature: T= 0K, then all the
Laws of the Theory of Ideal Gas we can apply to Vacuum.
The Theory of Ideal Gas is not abstract theory.
It is impossible from abstract Theory of Ideal Gas to create real
Theory of Thermodynamics.
Here is one of our paradoxes in Physics.

My conclusion.
According to Quantum Theory this Infinite/ Eternal
Energy Space create virtual energetic particles frozen light quanta.
They are in the rest/ potential condition and they have following
physical parameters:
Geometrical form : C/D = pi ,
Potential energy ( a dark energy, positron, . . .etc ): E= Mc^2,
Potential mass ( a mass-lees, dark mass , . . . .etc ): R/N=k ,
Inner impulse : h = 0 ,
Mathematical formula : i^2= -1 .
================== . .
#
Electron has infinity energy after
interaction with Vacuum: E=
Why?
Maybe it is because the Electron only changed its visual
parameters on the unseen parameters and therefore
we call him virtual . . . ?
#
What does The Law of Conservation and Transformation
of Energy/ Mass mean according to one single electron ?

What does The Law of Conservation and Transformation
of Energy/ Mass mean according to the natural
virtual energetic particle ?.
#
Without Aether/ Vacuum physics makes no sense.
========== . .
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 17 2009, 8:04 AM 

Yeh, vacuum physics sucks.

Protons and neutrons have their share of gravity, and supposedly electrons too. So, where does the gravity go when they are annihilated into pure energy? (EMR)

 
 
sadovnik

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 18 2009, 12:55 AM 

======= .
1.
Now the physicists think that Vacuum as
an Absolute Reference Frame in a state of T=2,7K
( after big bang). But if somebody belief in big bang,
he must take in calculation that T=2,7K expands and
therefore the T=2,7K is temporary parameter and with
time it will go to T= 0K.
2.
The Theory of Ideal Gas speculate with temperature parameter T=0K.

Question.
Can Theory of Ideal Gas be model of Vacuum ?
================== .

 
 

big bang , cmbr

June 18 2009, 4:51 AM 

in my paper it seems that 2,73K is a temperature of thermodynamical ballance in a universe with limits and open .2,73K is the less temperature if the universal constants are stable .If the temperature of universe will be 0K the rest mass of electron must be zero

 
 
sadovnik

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 18 2009, 7:32 AM 

alexandris nikos
in my paper it seems that 2,73K is a temperature of thermodynamical balance
in a universe with limits and open .2,73K is the less temperature if the universal
constants are stable.
If the temperature of universe will be 0K the rest mass of electron must be zero

Sadovnik.
Is better to say:
If the temperature of universe will be 0K the potential energy
of electron must be E= Mc^2, and
the potential rest mass of electron must be R/N=k.

it means:
the condition of virtual electron/positron/frozen quantum
of light can be written also with formula : E= kc^2.
!!! ??? !!!
=================== . .
Best wishes.
S.

 
 
sadovnik

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 21 2009, 1:50 AM 


Can Theory of Ideal Gas be model of Vacuum ?
========== .
Comments.
#
Hi Sadovnik

The notion of a ideal gas is only to simplify it's dynamics in order to frame it
in a mathematical model . When dealing with the real world a gas will never
be perfect but at least understanding and the the tools to predict it are in place .
I see no reason for a vacuum to be perfect unless it was at 0 K
The number zero is as demanding number similar to as infinity . Leaving this
aside I believe space can be modeled under ideal conditions . Making it a ideal
gas is another question . I say no but I am not adamant about it . It depends on
what a photon is . Information has to get from a to b in space . If a photon is a
particle then I see no problem with space being modeled after a ideal gas .
However you must take the bitter pill that goes with this . Energy expands
a gas which is in contradiction with relativity . The energy that goes into
expansion can not also increase it's mass due to conservation of energy .
Only when a gas is inhibited from expanded will all the energy go into
more inertia . Even then there is a problem with heat radiation taking energy
out of the system . So you can see in the case of a ideal gas the bulk of the
energy went into expansion . You can not say it is a ideal gas then change
all the rules when relativity comes along . Some would not agree with this
but I see no way around it .
That was an interesting question .
/ John /

#
I think the ideal gas is a good analogy of the vacuum
except the ideal gas sub-particles all travel at the speed of light C.
/ jerrygg38 /

#
only in the most naive way: by defining a vacuum as a gas of density
zero. Of course this is outside the domain of validity for this theory.
/ Lars /

#
1). It's Socrates, not Socratus.

2). You seem not to understand the meaning and use of theoretical
Terms (such as "ideal gas") in scientific theories.

3). Your quotes are taken out of context, making it seem as
if the world's leading physicists are admitting physics doesn't
know anything. This is called "quote mining". It is clearly not true,
and dishonest, to boot.

4). In any rate, even if modern physics were 100% wrong,
that would be no evidence of God's existence, let alone for the truth
of any particular religion.

5). Just because we don't know how something happened doesn't
mean God did it. For thousands of years people didn't know what
causes lightning, so they said it was God being angry and smiting sinners.
They were wrong. Today we don't know what dark energy is, so some
people say it is something God created. But that doesn't mean that's true.

6). Physics WORKS. It allows us to make predictions and experiments
an engineering feats. If it were deeply wrong, your computer would
not work, for example. Religion doesn't work. It cannot reliably predict,
it cannot be tested, it passes no experiments.

7). For this reason, it is very likely that physics is approximately true,
while religion is not.

Avital Pilpel
http://www.avitalpilpel.com/
=========== . .

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 21 2009, 2:10 AM 

sadovnik said: "5) Just because we don't know how something happened doesn't
mean God did it. For thousands of years people didn't know what
causes lightning, so they said it was God being angry and smiting sinners.
They were wrong. Today we don't know what dark energy is, so some
people say it is something God created. But that doesn't mean that's true."

Jose says: So, Sadnovnik, What, exactly, do we know about the cause of lightening?http://www.albany.edu/faculty/rgk/atm101/sprite.htm

How can you prove that God didn't do it? Maybe he knows how to manipulate the universe HE CREATED! Maybe, he just hasn't gotten pissed at you, yet. Better lay low.


 
 
socratus

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 24 2009, 5:53 PM 

Conservation ??? Transformation ???

jerrygg38 wrote on 23/06/2009 :
The Heisenbery uncertainty principle shows that linear momentum
is not conserved. The reason is that at any interaction linear momentum
can transform into angular momentum. However my dot-waves also
oscillated from a radius to the Plank radius. The contraction and
expansion of the dot-wave either in a plane surface or a spherical
surface I call spherical momentum.
Therefore in order to conserve momentum and agree with the
Heisenbergy principle, it is clear that one solution is that the total sum
of all momentums is constant,
Therefore when two dot-waves interact or two particles interact,
we cannot tell what direction the particles will go within the uncertainty.
A photon can enter the electron, the energy of the photon becomes
part of the energy level of the electron.
However the momentum is not guaranteed.
#
My comment.
#
jerrygg38
The Heisenberg uncertainty principle shows that linear momentum
is not conserved.
====.
S.
!!!
========== .
jerrygg38
The reason is that at any interaction linear momentum
can transform into angular momentum.
========== .
S.
And vice versa.
=============== .
jerrygg38
However my dot-waves also oscillated from a radius to the Plank radius.
========= .
S.
Is it possible to say what this process goes around the Plank radius ?
========== .
jerrygg38
The contraction and expansion of the dot-wave either in a plane
surface or a spherical surface I call spherical momentum.
======== .
S.
Is this process goes around the Plank radius (spherical surface ) ?
Is this spherical momentum connected with spherical surface ?
========= .
jerrygg38
Therefore in order to conserve momentum and agree with the
Heisenberg principle, it is clear that one solution is that the total
sum of all momentums is constant,
========== .
S.
Something here is wrong.
Why?
You say:
1.
The Heisenberg uncertainty principle shows that linear momentum
is not conserved.
2.
The reason is that at any interaction linear momentum
can transform into angular momentum.

It means that according to Heisenberg principle neither linear
momentum nor angular momentum are constant parameters.
But you try to conserve momentum.
Why?
Is it because from school we were studied about the law
of momentums conservation, energy conservation . . etc ?

And then you say: it is clear that one solution is that the total
sum of all momentums is constant,.

But the law is named :
" The law of conservation and transformation energy / mass"
And nobody in the school taught us : What does the Law of
Transformation energy / mass means according to one single
quantum of light or to one single electron ?
============= .
jerrygg38
Therefore when two dot-waves interact or two particles interact,
we cannot tell what direction the particles will go within the uncertainty.
===== .
S.
In my opinion the Heisenberg principle shows that particles
can have different momentums.
========= .
jerrygg38
A photon can enter the electron, the energy of the photon becomes part
of the energy level of the electron.
======= .
S.
Questions:
Can photon and electron be one and the same particle
in different conditions ?
Can the difference between photon and electron depends
only from frequency ?
Answer:
May 23, 2009.
I think not just frequency, but phasing and polarity will differ.

David M. Rountree, AES
Scientific Paranormal Investigative
Research Information and Technology
www.spinvestigations.org

So.
Not just frequency, phasing , polarity but momentum also
will be differ when electron ( or photon) changes its behavior.
=============================== . . .
jerrygg38
However the momentum is not guaranteed.
====== .
S.
However the conversation of momentum (as well as frequency,
phasing , polarity and charge ) is not guaranteed and is not
constant parameter .
========== .
#
From an email.
Since linear momentum and angular have different units,
I don't understand how one can transform into the other.
/ R. . . . PhD /
=== . .
So: continuation.
#
jerrygg38 wrote:
Therefore in order to conserve momentum and agree with the
Heisenberg principle, it is clear that one solution is that the total
sum of all momentums is constant,
======= .
S.
We have two momentums:
linear momentum and angular momentum ( maybe more).
And jerrygg38 says:
that the total sum of all momentums is constant,.
How it was saying simply . . sum of all momentums !!!

Ones Sir Arthur Eddington said:
We used to think that if we knew one, we knew two,
because one and one are two. We are finding
that we must learn a great deal more about `and '.

In others words, when we have one linear momentum
and one angular momentum that we must learn a great
deal more about `sum. Because sum must be some Law,
which connected the one and one to sum.
============ .
Regards.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

- Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 26 2009, 11:04 PM 

The electrons in orbit load up with energy, when an emf wave of the right energy level is absorbed, it jumps to the next level. The shapes of the orbits are controlled by the structure of the nucleus.

 
 
s

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 27 2009, 1:03 AM 

1.
The electrons in orbit load up with energy,
when an emf wave of the right energy level is absorbed,
it jumps to the next level
/ Jose Rodriguez /

S.
This information about orbits was created by Bohr in 1913.
Much changes was passed from this time.
It seems you didnt hear about these changes.

2.
The shapes of the orbits are controlled by the structure of the nucleus.
/ Jose Rodriguez /

S.
The structure of the hydrogen is proton + electron.
So, you say:
The structure of the hydrogen ( proton + electron) controlled
the shapes of the electron orbits .
In others words: you say nothing. That you say is tautology.

3.
It seems to me your replica is out of context,
you threw replica without thinking.
Sorry.
Best wishes.
S.
=============== .

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 27 2009, 4:29 AM 

socratus said: "The structure of the hydrogen is proton + electron."

Jose says: that is partially true, sometimes it includes the neutron too.

http://www.res.kutc.kansai-u.ac.jp/~cook/NVSHistory.html

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

Periodic Table by Valence

June 27 2009, 4:41 AM 


 
 
Anonymous

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 27 2009, 4:46 PM 

socratus said: "The structure of the hydrogen is proton + electron."

Jose says: that is partially true, sometimes it includes the neutron too.

http://www.res.kutc.kansai-u.ac.jp/~cook/NVSHistory.html
_________________________________________________________________

And JR gave an irrelevant reference.

Hydrogen has three known isotopes: H1, H2 and H3 called respectively: hydrogen, deuterium and tritium. Tritium is not totally stable: its half-life is about 12 years (see wiki).

_________________________________________________________________

Now let us listen more from the ignorants.

 
 

Shape and volume

June 28 2009, 12:37 PM 

The asymmetrical shape of baryons cause the errors in the Bohr model. Essentially the model is correct. The mechanisms of the model may need changing to describe events that occur within the model. But amazingly the models of chemistry hold more correctness than the model's created by physicist.

1) "Energy Space create virtual energetic particles frozen light quanta.
They are in the rest/ potential condition and they have following
physical parameters: "
This is not possible. There is no way to have an 'At Rest' solution.

2) There is no such thing as an 'Ideal Gas'. Even within the 'Ideal Gas', changes are continually occurring. These are just conceptions.

The topic is "Where does the mass of the particle come from?". I have a solution that does not involve gravity. I will change the word mass to density. Cause mass does not exist in nature.

The density of a baryon comes from the previous density of the baryon+(changes in magnetic field,+ changes in the electric field,+ changes in the temperature).

2)bcSin(a))

Where M is the magnetic field of the baryon (W Boson)
Where E is the electric field of the baryon (Z Boson)
Where T is the temperature field of the baryon (Photon)
Where b is the length of baryon gluon b (gluon)
Where c is the length of baryon gluon c
Where A is the angle between the two gluons forming angle A

This equation describes the energy of the baryon over a volume.

This is fully described athttp://aaronsreality.blogspot.com

Aaron

 
 
socratus

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 28 2009, 5:00 PM 


The density of a baryon comes from the previous density of the baryon+(changes in magnetic field,+ changes in the electric field,+ changes in the temperature).



Where M is the magnetic field of the baryon (W Boson) . . . . . come from ?
Where E is the electric field of the baryon (Z Boson) . . . . . . come from ?
Where T is the temperature field of the baryon (Photon) . . . come from ?
Where b is the length of baryon gluon b (gluon) . . . . . . . . . come from ?
Where c is the length of baryon gluon c . . . come from ?
Where A is the angle between the two gluons forming angle A . . . come from ?

Ones again:
The density of a baryon comes from the previous density of the baryon+(changes in magnetic field,+ changes in the electric field,+ changes in the temperature).
/ Aaron/

#
My conclusion.
The man was born from woman.
The woman was born from mans rib.
=========== .

 
 

Where do they 'Come From?'

June 28 2009, 5:40 PM 

Where do Forces come from? I don't know where the universe was made/designed/coughed up from. I don't know where these vibrations come from other than what I stated. They just exist. Why is an invalid question.

The baryon expresses itself through Electricity, Magnetism, and Temperature. Like you express your self in voice, emotion, and other communication systems. The baryon tells others who and what, it is.

The simplest answer is that the baryon vibrates. The expressed vibration is received by another baryon.

E = m*C^2

What they wanted to say is the energy over a mass. The problem with this energy statement is that the dimensionless mass cannot hold energy.

Where as The intensity of the baryon is the sum of the fields over a triangle.

Aaron

 
 
sadovnik

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 29 2009, 1:30 AM 

#
Aaron
Where do Forces come from?
I don't know where the universe was made/designed/coughed up from.
I don't know where these vibrations come from other than what I stated.
They just exist.
Why is an invalid question.
========================== .
S.
The Forces/ Energy come from Energetic Nothingness / Vacuum
T=0K as Quantum Theory says.
============= .
Aaron
The baryon expresses itself through Electricity, Magnetism, and Temperature.
Like you express your self in voice, emotion, and other communication systems.
The baryon tells others who and what, it is.
========= .
S.
Correct. !!!!
Question:
What is baryon, W+ and W- bosons, and the Z boson ,
mesons, muons , tau , quarks ( 6 ! 7 ? ), leptons, photon,
gluons, antiparticle, antiquarks . . . .etc . .etc . . . ? ? ?
=============== .
Aaron
The simplest answer is that the baryon vibrates.
========= .
S.
Frequency is the key to everything.
======== .
Aaron
The expressed vibration is received by another baryon.
E = m*C^2
============= .
S.
Another baryon . . . . . . .!!!
Very good.
In beginning was
the previous density of the baryon+(changes in magnetic field,+
changes in the electric field,+ changes in the temperature).
Very good.
In beginning was the previous baryon . . . .!!!
Maybe it was the Higgs boson . . . . ?
Who knows . . .?
=========== .
Aaron
What they wanted to say is the energy over a mass.
======== .
S.
According to subatomic , microworld :
E = M*c^2 = M= E*c^2 = c^2= E/M.

c^2= E/M is hidden energy/mass in every micro particle.
========= .
Aaron
The problem with this energy statement is that the dimensionless
mass cannot hold energy.
========== .
S.
The Infinite/ Eternal Energy Space of Vacuum contents 99%
of unseen mass / matter of the Universe as whole.
From this 99% of unseen mass / matter was created
1% of measuring mass/ matter.
========= .
Aaron
Where as The intensity of the baryon is the sum of the fields over a triangle.
Aaron
=============== . .
S.
The sum of baryons created triangle. . .???

Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit.
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides.
/ Charles de Montesquieu . [Persian Letters, 1721 /

Aaron, maybe the baryons has three sides . .? ? ?
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.

 
 

How density is expressed

June 29 2009, 8:11 AM 

Aaron
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S.
The Infinite/ Eternal Energy Space of Vacuum contents 99%
of unseen mass / matter of the Universe as whole.
From this 99% of unseen mass / matter was created
1% of measuring mass/ matter.
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a. The Infinite/ Eternal Energy Space of Vacuum = Dark Energy
Dark Energy is broken down to sets of Dark Energy 'Ruleset'.
A Ruleset is a single processing system for vibrations.
A Ruleset bound is where the vibration enters and exits the domain of the Ruleset.
A Ruleset is 3 Dimensional.
A Ruleset does not communicate with other Rulesets.
A Ruleset is not affected by the vibrations within it.
A Ruleset calculates vibrations and adds or subtracts from them.
A Ruleset is the width of a boson.
One boson enters many rulesets in one spin. e.g. a Gluon width = 1 ruleset but its length is over many rulesets. This is important for checksum.
Rulesets occupy 100% of the universe. Though they may be void of information.

Bosons always have 4 memes of information.
a meme is a bit of information.
A photon has 4 memes. These are Frequency, Wave length, Temperature and a counter.
A W Boson contains Charge, Current, Voltage and a counter.
A Gluon contains Color, Length, Voltage and previous density. No need for a counter here. Just storage of the last instance of meme data.

We see the memes of data in a photon in this picture.
[linked image]

Actually, Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe is the best map of the contents of the universe that we can detect.
Currently - my inturpitation of the map is:
100% of the spaces of the detectable universe are Dark Energy Rulesets.
72% of those Rulesets are void of vibrations.
23% of those Rulesets contain Dark Matter vibrations.
4.6% of those Rulesets contain Baryonic Matter vibrations.

But I am willing to change this to
100% Dark energy
95.4% Dark Matter
4.6% Baryonic matter.
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Aaron
Where as The intensity of the baryon is the sum of the fields over a triangle.
Aaron
=============== . .
S.
The sum of baryons created triangle. . .???
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A. No, The definition of a baryon is any single collection of vibrations that contains 3 Quarks. Though I would like to redefine this as any vibration that contains 3 gluons.
3s always produce a triangle.
The UUD baryon is 2 Up Quarks and 1 Down Quark.

A Quark is just 2 intertwining Gluons. Meaning the Gluon's length is far longer than the distance between two Quarks. The two intertwined Gluons are always communicating to each other.

The one opposite quark, in this case it is the Down Quark, is always perpendicular to the other two quarks. This position of the Down Quark is always the origin of the spinning Up Quarks. This is the rotational axis. This rotational axis is the direction of charge. The intensity of the spin is directly related to the intensity of the W Boson.

[linked image]
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Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit.
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides.
/ Charles de Montesquieu . [Persian Letters, 1721 /
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Cute, But I hate the concept of God
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Aaron, maybe the baryons has three sides . .? ? ?
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They do.

Just a note. When I look at this model, paradoxes and the particle zoo fall away. Neutinos, Gravity, Global time... are not necessary in this model.
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Thanks Israel for reading my work.
Aaron

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

How density is expressed

June 29 2009, 8:57 AM 

99% of matter in the visible Universe is rarely seen matter, but is is matter in the fourth state. Plasma. Plasma has several modes, depending upon the current density. It can be invisible at visual (light) frequencies, but very visible at lower radio frequencies. (Radio telescopes reveal this to be true in space.) Then there is glow mode as seen in the aurora. Then again there is arc mode as seen in the corona of the Sun. The filamentary nature of intra-planetary space, intra-galactic space, and extra-galactic space cannot be denied, except by believers in the Big Bang-Expansion of the Universe Religion.

You, Aaron, hate the idea of "god." I, on the other hand, hate the idea that some few self-appointed men believe they are entitled to own and rule over other men. It is these that usurp the idea of "god" and foment evil in this world. These evil men have wormed their way into economic, as well as ecclesiastic positions of authority. This is where your "hate" should be expended, not on the idea of "god." Atheists have a religion, too. They make their beliefs up as they go along. But once they make their minds up, hard evidence will not change it.

 
 

Plasma

June 29 2009, 9:40 AM 

JR,

I have to disagree with you. The 4 states of matter. Ice,Liquid,Gas,Plasma.

The requirement for plasma is ionization. When a baryon is heated beyond several thousand degrees K the baryon sheds its electron. When a baryon electric field is beyond a point, the baryon ejects its electron. When a baryon is in the region of a powerful magnetic field the field will rip the electron away from the baryon.

These are the mechanisms that cause plasma. Plasma occurs when Z Bosons communicate directly to the neighboring baryon.

The outside layer of the sheath or filament that you describe is an area where baryons still have their electrons. They are not inside the filament. The baryons on the outside of the filament still have the ability to generate photons with their electrons. Thus light from a plasma ball. But you can't really see the plasma, it does not have the electron needed to produce a photon. You see the baryonic sheath that is not plasma relating information about the plasma.

a

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

Plasma

June 29 2009, 9:47 AM 


 
 

Plasma

June 29 2009, 10:19 AM 

Wow,
That link said nothing of value. Sorry. Nice pic though.

'One has to wonder: if these particle accelerators in the Milky Way are so very efficient, the particle physicists at the Large Hadron Collider should replace their inefficient electromagnetic device with one based on the new ballistic laws of electromagnetism'

What the Hell are new ballistic laws of electromagnetism? Please define these for me.

They are not even using common terms. Ballistic refers to kinetic movement of objects of differing densities. A bullet is vastly more dense the the atmosphere. Shoot a bullet under water and the velocity changes. Shoot a bullet in solid lead (no atmosphere at all)and it won't go far.

We already have banging xray machines called CT. CTs send pulses or bangs of xrays. This is the digital version of the analog xray system.

The problem I have with this thunderbolt theory is that they don't even evaluate the other states of matter.
[linked image]
Northern limb of "stellar remnant" RCW 86. Credit: ESO/E. Helder & NASA/Chandra

I love the 'Northern' direction. What I see here is a gas cloud. Within the gas cloud, I see plasma. The temperature change around the plasma changes the color of the gas. Thus red in the blue hydrogen gas. Ionized hydrogen is red.

I really want to see the FITS picture of this and other gas clouds. This would show the data to disprove the thunderbolt theory as a cosmological theory. I would like to strongly state that plasma is a function of electricity. Electricity is one of several functions involved in baryonic expression.

http://aaronsreality.blogspot.com

a

 
 

Electric slinky

June 29 2009, 10:44 AM 

From the thunderbolt site.

[linked image]

This is a nice picture. It shows someone knows how to use photoshop.

slinky.

a

 
 

Differences between pictures

June 29 2009, 11:15 AM 

The first picture does show plasma. The second does not show plasma. It is an area of hydrogen gas that is heating up due to accretion. It will soon become a star. Soon is millions of years.



a

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

Plasma

June 30 2009, 9:45 AM 

Aaron asks: "What the Hell are new ballistic laws of electromagnetism? Please define these for me."

Jose says: No wonder you guys are confused. "new ballistic laws of electromagnetism" is what Mel Atchison has named The European Space Agency's description of the picture.

Quote: "A recent press release from the European Southern Observatory announces that a unique ballistic study proves that cosmic rays are caused by supernova shock waves bumping particles to near light speed."

This is their theory, not his, or the electric universe's explanation.

I had no problem following the article, why are you so confused?

 
 
Anonymous

Re: Where does the mass of the particle come from?

June 30 2009, 10:02 AM 

thunderbolts theory is a smoke screen for ignorance

 
 

Smoke wisps

June 30 2009, 10:58 AM 

Love the pic, needs a mirror.

Let's evaluate the smoke wisps with my model to see if it works.
The smoke is carbon monoxide. CO is denser than the surrounding normal atmosphere is standard conditions of temperature and pressure (SCTP).

The fire caused the CO to heat up and rise. So the current density of the CO is:
The previous density+(increase in temperature field+ no change in magnetic field + no change in electric field).
gif.latex?\delta _{D_{n}}=\delta _{D_{p}}+(\Delta \delta _{M}+\Delta \delta _{E}+\Delta \delta _{T})

The increase in temperature causes the baryons to expand. This expansion reduces the density of the CO. Causing the change in position. The CO rises. When the CO cools the baryon contracts causing it to be more dense and its position changes downward.

a

 
 
Jose Rodriguez

Smoke wisps

June 30 2009, 10:35 PM 

[linked image]


Actually, the picture is that of the neuron connections inside Anonymous's head.

 
 
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