Parapsychology.
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May 14, 2009. 10:46 am |
Categories: Army and Marines, DarpaWatch, Science!

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/05/pentagon-preps-soldier-telepathy-push/

Pentagon Preps Soldier Telepathy Push.

Forget the battlefield radios, the combat PDAs or even infantry hand signals.
When the soldiers of the future want to communicate, theyll read each others minds.
At least, thats the hope of researchers at the Pentagons mad-science division Darpa.
The agencys budget for the next fiscal year includes $4 million to start up a program
called Silent Talk.
The goal is to allow user-to-user communication on the battlefield without the use
of vocalized speech through analysis of neural signals. Thats on top of the $4
million the Army handed out last year to the University of California to investigate
the potential for computer-mediated telepathy.
Before being vocalized, speech exists as word-specific neural signals in the mind.
Darpa wants to develop technology that would detect these signals of pre-speech,
analyze them, and then transmit the statement to an intended interlocutor. Darpa plans
to use EEG to read the brain waves. Its a technique theyre also testing in a project to
devise mind-reading binoculars that alert soldiers to threats faster the conscious mind
can process them.
The project has three major goals, according to Darpa. First, try to map a persons
EEG patterns to his or her individual words. Then, see if those patterns are generalizable
if everyone has similar patterns. Last, construct a fieldable pre-prototype that would
decode the signal and transmit over a limited range.
The military has been funding a handful of mind-tapping technology recently, and
already have monkeys capable of telepathic limb control. Telepathy may also have
advantages beyond covert battlefield chatter. Last year, the National Research Council
and the Defense Intelligence Agency released a report suggesting that neuroscience
might also be useful to make the enemy obey our commands. The first step, though,
may be getting a grunt to obey his officers remotely-transmitted thoughts.
Katie Drummond and Noah Shachtman

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But modern parapsychologists ( as well as ancients wise men )
know to transfer their thoughts without nanotechnological machines.

Books:
1.
Uri.
/ Andrija Puharich /
2.
Geller effect.
/ Guy Lyon Playfair /
3.
Books about Wolf Messing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Messing
4.
Etc.
5.
Maybe it is interesting to now about:
Telekinesis at the quantum level .

http://www.whps.com/misaha/ArticleEngl-4.htm
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Conclusion.
Our brain , our brain waves, our thought have great potential power.
But we dont know to use it and turn it into active power.
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S.

Karl: cinci ---have you taken the trouble to read the little proof I referred to in the last message? That alone should be enough to convince you that light has a mass and has to be a binary model. best, karl





Cincirob: I've always believed that light has mass:  mc^2 = hf
Gravitational potential energy explains time dilation and energy loss or gain as a photon moves through a gravity field.  If by binary you mean that a photon has a rest mass, the mc^2 does not equal hf. 




AAF: It sounds very scientific, Cinci. Unfortunately, the mass of light, in your post, is a Trojan Horse! And inside this miserable Trojan Horse, Relativists mix up and confuse their false concept of mass with the true concept of mass which they pedantically call it the 'rest mass'.

I posted message: 'Parapsychology '.
But Mr. AAF says about light, not about Parapsychology.
It is interesting to me to know:
Why did he choose this place to speak about light ?
( I suppose he want to say : quantum of light )
Maybe . . . . .
Maybe . . he knows what quantum of light in some way
can be connected with the 'Theory of Parapsychology' . . . ?

Maybe . . . . he wants to write book:
'Parapsychology and Quantum of light' . . . . .?
No bad idea.
If it is so, I wish him success.
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Re: sadovnik, Parapsychology. June 29 2009, 11:01 AM

sadovnik: "I posted message: 'Parapsychology '.
But Mr. AAF says about light, not about Parapsychology.
It is interesting to me to know:
Why did he choose this place to speak about light?"

Interesting question Isreal, what I would like to know is, why is AAF quoting messages from other sites? Is he trying to provoke Cincirob to return and/or just aimlessly diverting the subject at hand?

Sadovnik: I posted message: 'Parapsychology '. But Mr. AAF says about light, not about Parapsychology. It is interesting to me to know: Why did he choose this place to speak about light? ( I suppose he want to say : quantum of light ) Maybe . . . . . Maybe . . he knows what quantum of light in some way. can be connected with the 'Theory of Parapsychology' . . . ? Maybe . . . . he wants to write book: 'Parapsychology and Quantum of light' . . . . .? No bad idea. If it is so, I wish him success.




AAF: No, Sadovnik; that is not it. Let me explain! Firstly, I thought you would be happy for bringing the thread to the top again; is that a good reason? Lastly (but not the least), I thought the dialogue between (Karl & Cincirob) could be relevant to this part of the above thread: "Maybe it is interesting to now about: Telekinesis at the quantum level." For as you know, every quantum level has its beginning and root in Planck's quantum of light.



Bob S: Interesting question Isreal, what I would like to know is, why is AAF quoting messages from other sites? Is he trying to provoke Cincirob to return and/or just aimlessly diverting the subject at hand?



AAF: I'm not quoting messages from other sites, Bob. I'm copying 'em directly from my E-mail! Am I trying to provoke Cincirob to return? Not exactly; very few people could, possibly, feel comfy in his presence; not to mention Joe and Karl. Nonetheless, what I'm trying to accomplish, here, is to keep alive the argumentative old spirit of our former colleague who appears to have lost it the day he lost his old knee....

Re: AAF, Parapsychology. June 30 2009, 12:02 AM

AAF: "I'm not quoting messages from other sites, Bob. I'm copying 'em directly from my E-mail!"

But they originated from another site, right?

AAF: "Am I trying to provoke Cincirob to return? Not exactly;"

I may not have been "exactly" right but I'll accept mostly right!

AAF: "...very few people could, possibly, feel comfy in his presence;"

I never felt uncomfortable in his presence, I knew what to expect from him!

AAF: "...not to mention Joe and Karl."

Ok, I won't!

AAF: "Nonetheless, what I'm trying to accomplish, here, is to keep alive the argumentative old spirit of our former colleague..."

I fail to see how that would work, if we should join in on their discussion are you going to email our responses to them? If you miss his argumentative spirit why not just go to that site and join in the fray. He claimed you were stalking him, he might have a point!

AAF: "who appears to have lost it the day he lost his old knee...."

That may very well be true AAF, but, copying (via email or by whatever means) his comments here won't bring his old knee back, right AAF? However, it could bring him back, which, should be by his choice not your provocation, I won't ask if I am right because I know I am right, right?

AAF:
Let me explain!
Firstly,
I thought you would be happy for bringing the thread
to the top again; is that a good reason?
=== .
S.
Thank you.
But I prefer that the reason would be more concrete,
because from your message is hard to understand what
speech is going " . . . . about:
Telekinesis at the quantum level."
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AAF:
Lastly (but not the least),
I thought the dialogue between (Karl & Cincirob) could be relevant
to this part of the above thread:
"Maybe it is interesting to now about: Telekinesis at the quantum level."
For as you know, every quantum level has its beginning and root
in Planck's quantum of light.
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S.
I also think that Planck's quantum of light is relevant to
the Parapsychological effect.
But effect of . . . Telekinesis at the quantum level. . . . . . .
In the past I met some parapsychologists and I saw their power.
So, I can understand something.
But about telekinesis effect I read only in books.
I must (!) believe that this effect exist (!) , but it is hard for me
to adapt (!) this fact (!) because I cannot understand
how it is possible.

Bes wishes.
Sadovnik.

sadovnik, Parapsychology. June 4 2009 at 1:19 AM

Isreal: "Forget the battlefield radios, the combat PDAs or even infantry hand signals. When the soldiers of the future want to communicate, theyll read each others minds. At least, thats the hope of researchers at the Pentagons mad-science division Darpa."

Parapsychology: a field of study concerned with the investigation of evidence for paranormal psychological phenomena

Evidence may suggest the possibility but, Reason, rejects the probability. Having said that, what of people like Edgar Cayce? His "readings" are quite well documented and, if true, the phenomenon is worthy of study but only at a societal level, not the scientific level and most assuredly not at the military level.

Why at a societal level? Why not? people should be free to explore any arena of possibilities they choose be it parapsychology or time travel.

Why not at a scientific level? Because society pays money for scientific research and I don't want some clown getting paid out of my pocket on an "unending search". Read for example, this article in today's news,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31638222/ns/technology_and_science-science
A most interesting study but this paragraph says it all,
"This is a provocative idea that will require a lot more data to test, and at this point, we don't have a good handle on the nature of the motor control and perceptive differences that would induce this difference, but we are excited to find out."
More data means more testing means more money, to what end? If I am building a house do I want someone who pecks at a nail for accuracy or someone who drives it home for speed. If the carpenter wackes his thumb, too bad! just get the wall up.

Now what of at the military level, I say Hell no! It is a total waste of resources to even consider mental telepathy. Why? Because, in the event telepathy is true, how would you keep the enemy from taping in on the conservation, the thoughts would have to be encrypted and the soldier would have to be thinking in code and the message at the same time giving the enemy both the code and the message. Better the military should use smoke signals or mirrors.

Anyway, that's my opinion. And for those who may not like my opinion...can you tell what I am thinking right now! That is a test, if you want the results, send me some money.

Bob S: But they originated from another site, right? I may not have been "exactly" right but I'll accept mostly right! I never felt uncomfortable in his presence, I knew what to expect from him! "...not to mention Joe and Karl." Ok, I won't! I fail to see how that would work, if we should join in on their discussion are you going to email our responses to them? If you miss his argumentative spirit why not just go to that site and join in the fray. He claimed you were stalking him, he might have a point! "who appears to have lost it the day he lost his old knee...." That may very well be true AAF, but, copying (via email or by whatever means) his comments here won't bring his old knee back, right AAF? However, it could bring him back, which, should be by his choice not your provocation, I won't ask if I am right because I know I am right, right?




AAF: Bob, are you telling me that I have no right to copy and make available to the public any of the materials in my own E-mail Box? What else are you going to tell me? I have no right to access any human system lying on my own bed? Well, let me tell you something. I'm the discoverer and the driver of Cinci's argumentative spirit! Without my comments, that spirit goes dull and just fades away. In my absence, that spirit is neither argumentative nor interesting. It's just dull and boring. That is what it is....




Sadovnik: Thank you. But I prefer that the reason would be more concrete, because from your message is hard to understand what speech is going " . . . . about: Telekinesis at the quantum level." I also think that Planck's quantum of light is relevant to the Para psychological effect. But effect of . . . Telekinesis at the quantum level. . . . . . . In the past I met some parapsychologists and I saw their power. So, I can understand something. But about telekinesis effect I read only in books. I must (!) believe that this effect exist (!) , but it is hard for me to adapt (!) this fact (!) because I cannot understand how it is possible. Bes wishes.




AAF: Well, Sadovnik; I don't really have much to say about parapsychology. And I know very little about what is going on in that field. But Bob, here, seems to know more. What do you think about the military use of mental telepathy, Bob? Does the research deserve spending the money?




Bob S: Now what of at the military level, I say Hell no! It is a total waste of resources to even consider mental telepathy. Why? Because, in the event telepathy is true, how would you keep the enemy from taping in on the conservation, the thoughts would have to be encrypted and the soldier would have to be thinking in code and the message at the same time giving the enemy both the code and the message. Better the military should use smoke signals or mirrors. Anyway, that's my opinion. And for those who may not like my opinion...can you tell what I am thinking right now! That is a test, if you want the results, send me some money.




AAF: I agree; but please, notice that the military folks, everywhere, don't really think very much about the waste of resources. They just go ahead and do it! Also, para-psychological research doesn't require much money besides the salaries of few mediums and their supervising handlers and several parapsychology quacks. And don't worry about enemies 'taping in on' telepathic communications. Since, it's absolutely certain that their few mediums and their supervising handlers and their several parapsychology quacks can't go any further beyond making few educated guesses and some useless prophecies. Is that right, Bob?

Re: AAF, Parapsychology. July 1 2009, 12:04 AM

Bob S: "But they originated from another site, right? I may not have been "exactly" right but I'll accept mostly right! I never felt uncomfortable in his presence, I knew what to expect from him! "...not to mention Joe and Karl." Ok, I won't! I fail to see how that would work, if we should join in on their discussion are you going to email our responses to them? If you miss his argumentative spirit why not just go to that site and join in the fray. He claimed you were stalking him, he might have a point! "who appears to have lost it the day he lost his old knee...." That may very well be true AAF, but, copying (via email or by whatever means) his comments here won't bring his old knee back, right AAF? However, it could bring him back, which, should be by his choice not your provocation, I won't ask if I am right because I know I am right, right?"

AAF: "Bob, are you telling me that I have no right to copy and make available to the public any of the materials in my own E-mail Box?"

No!

AAF: :What else are you going to tell me?", I have no right to access any human system lying on my own bed?"

I would tell you no such thing!

AAF: "Well, let me tell you something. I'm the discoverer and the driver of Cinci's argumentative spirit! Without my comments, that spirit goes dull and just fades away."

That's nice!

AAF: "In my absence, that spirit is neither argumentative nor interesting. It's just dull and boring. That is what it is...."

If that is the way you feel then you should go to him, cause it don't look like he's a-commin to you!

Sadovnik: "Thank you. But I prefer that the reason would be more concrete, because from your message is hard to understand what speech is going " . . . . about: Telekinesis at the quantum level." I also think that Planck's quantum of light is relevant to the Para psychological effect. But effect of . . . Telekinesis at the quantum level. . . . . . . In the past I met some parapsychologists and I saw their power. So, I can understand something. But about telekinesis effect I read only in books. I must (!) believe that this effect exist (!) , but it is hard for me to adapt (!) this fact (!) because I cannot understand how it is possible. Bes wishes."

AAF: "Well, Sadovnik; I don't really have much to say about parapsychology. And I know very little about what is going on in that field. But Bob, here, seems to know more. What do you think about the military use of mental telepathy, Bob? Does the research deserve spending the money?"

Bob S: "Now what of at the military level, I say Hell no! It is a total waste of resources to even consider mental telepathy. Why? Because, in the event telepathy is true, how would you keep the enemy from taping in on the conservation, the thoughts would have to be encrypted and the soldier would have to be thinking in code and the message at the same time giving the enemy both the code and the message. Better the military should use smoke signals or mirrors. Anyway, that's my opinion. And for those who may not like my opinion...can you tell what I am thinking right now! That is a test, if you want the results, send me some money."

AAF: "I agree; but please, notice that the military folks, everywhere, don't really think very much about the waste of resources. They just go ahead and do it! Also, para-psychological research doesn't require much money besides the salaries of few mediums and their supervising handlers and several parapsychology quacks. And don't worry about enemies 'taping in on' telepathic communications. Since, it's absolutely certain that their few mediums and their supervising handlers and their several parapsychology quacks can't go any further beyond making few educated guesses and some useless prophecies. Is that right, Bob?"

If you agree with me then the answer to your question should be self evident!

(one more thing, if you and Cinci should hook up please don't post any pics of your offspring)

AAF: In my absence, that spirit is neither argumentative nor interesting. It's just dull and boring. That is what it is....




Bob S: If that is the way you feel then you should go to him, cause it don't look like he's a-commin to you! If you agree with me then the answer to your question should be self evident! (one more thing, if you and Cinci should hook up please don't post any pics of your offspring)




AAF: As you know, Bob, Cinci's 'offspringing' days are over: No Lorentz derivation, no Michelson-Morley interpretation, and no new ideas; just pure nonsense and boring humbug! To put it differently the offspring of pairing his left brain side with his right brain side, nowadays, has the same characteristics of the offspring of pairing a horse with a donkey Why did he run away? Because he lied to me. He complained that someone posted some trash under his name. I asked them to find out who did it. They checked and told me it was posted by him. And when I told him what they had told me, he grew shy and got embarrassed and ran away. That is the truth, Bob. That is the truth.

You are right AAF, it was Cinci's choice to leave and it should be his choice to return, however, I (speaking for myself) have no interest in his conservations, or spirit, on other strings. And evidently Isreal Sadovnik, the author of this string, is not to interested either. So, why not start another string in tribute to Cincirob! that way, those who are interested in Cincirob's current antics can be kept abreast of what he is saying while those in other strings can try and stay on point with the subject at hand...right AAF?

If he should choose to return there is one difficulty he will have to overcome, which is his final statement from "Let us ponder Hapless Hal!", on April 18, 2009 @ 10:39 AM
"I'm out of here. In the future anything you see posted here under the name cincirob is not the real cincirob."
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