Proof:

Astronomical "Ghost stars" have never been observed (which excludes the c+v or c-v hypothesis).
PV is a Star for some.
PV is also a Ghost since he never answers contradictors.
Therefore PV is the unique Ghost Star, and its existence by itself proves he is wrong.

I told you Pentcho was smart, far and away, the smartest one here.

Anon: "Astronomical "Ghost stars" have never been observed."

Nether have Black Holes, Dark Matter, Neutron stars, nor directly, the speed of light from a relativistic moving object.

Since when does "never been observed" prove anything?

Anon: Proof: Astronomical "Ghost stars" have never been observed (which excludes the c+v or c-v hypothesis). PV is a Star for some. PV is also a Ghost since he never answers contradictors. Therefore PV is the unique Ghost Star, and its existence by itself proves he is wrong.




AAF: Anon, every star seen by observers on Earth is a ghost star. Even the sun is a ghost star! Why is the sun a ghost star? It's because it takes about 500 seconds for sunlight to reach the earth. During those 500 seconds, the sun has moved, from its original position, more than 100,000 miles along its orbit around the Milky Way. In other words, you are not seeing the true sun in that location; you're only seeing a ghost sun...

"Nether have Black Holes, Dark Matter, Neutron stars, nor directly, the speed of light from a relativistic moving object."

So JR, what about the speed of ligth emitted by ultra-relativistic electrons in synchrotrons?
Do you think this light goes at about 1.999 * c ?
Or do you think this is something special and irrelevant ?
Maybe you don't like it?

There is a whole bulk of physics related to relativistic electron in laboratories.
I am most familiar with the so-called "Bremsstrahlung".
In this huge amount of theoretical predictions and experimental observations, there has never been any hint at a contradiction with the hypothesis of special relativity.

But of course you point of view is this:

"Since when does "never been observed" prove anything?"

Which for you translates probably as:

"Never relativity has been contradicted experimentally, but that doesn't prove relativity."

My opinion is that relativity explains a huge amount of fact and has been contradicted by none.
At the same time, my hypothesis that you are a full time crank has not yet been contradicted either.

AAF: Anon, every star seen by observers on Earth is a ghost star. Even the sun is a ghost star! Why is the sun a ghost star? It's because it takes about 500 seconds for sunlight to reach the earth. During those 500 seconds, the sun has moved, from its original position, more than 100,000 miles along its orbit around the Milky Way. In other words, you are not seeing the true sun in that location; you're only seeing a ghost sun...


Lal: You can find what a ghost star means in this reference and elsewhere:

http://books.google.com/books?id=CX5GyYwnVLcC&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=ghost+star+relativity&source=bl&ots=v40gaelCSE&sig=UNUqCX2cpPncTxpa-pHVmcCdhCc&hl=en&ei=eLmFSoK9E9zKjAfn37CiCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=ghost%20star%20relativity&f=false

If you like computers, you should try a computer simulation of what would be observed from earth if the "c+v or c-v" hypothesis was true. When you are done, send it to "Pentcho Valev".

bobs: "I told you Pentcho was smart, far and away, the smartest one here."

Once more we disagree.
My opinion is that PV is an egghead full of bibliographic references and without any understanding.
For example, his understanding of the second principle and the Maxwell's relations (1) is just pathetic.

Nevertheless PV has some skills.
He is smart enough to enrage people (like me) with his idiocies.
He shares this subtile but useless skill with you.

I remember a TV predicator who had also this same skill.
He ridiculed modern science to support his view that earth would be 6000 years old as in the bible. You, PV and others here are from this church lineage.

(1)http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev2.htm

Do you mean the binary stars in de Sitter's "An Astronomical Proof for the Constancy of the Speed of Light", Anon? http://www.network54.com/Forum/304711/thread/1241982365/last-1244087831/An+Astronomical+Proof+for+the+Constancy+of+the+Speed+of+Light

If not, would you, please, explain to me in your own words what you mean by 'ghost stars'?

We already discussed the silliness of that explanation, but Anon's religion forbids acceptance.

Ghost stars cannot be seen, just like black holes. However, Pencho is very real, and his logic surpasses that of Anon.

"Ghost stars cannot be seen, just like black holes."

From JR, in "Nothing can be seen and science is wrong".

"Do you mean the binary stars in de Sitter's "An Astronomical Proof for the Constancy of the Speed of Light", Anon? "

Yes, you are right.
I did not know this was already discussed here.
I suppose there is a consensus here that de Sitter is an idiot and that Pencho Valev has proven him wrong based on the non-observation of anything by JR.

Wow,Pentcho,Jose Rodrigues,bobs,AAF, all the idiots gathered in one thread!

Yeah! Along with Anonymous!

Re: Anonym, Pentcho Valev is the unique Ghost Star in the universe August 15 2009, 11:28 AM

Anonym: "Wow,Pentcho,Jose Rodrigues,bobs,AAF, all the idiots gathered in one thread!"

Pentcho has not posted in this thread so it is not fair to include him as an idiot Anonym!

Bob can you prove you are not Pentcho ?

Re: Anonym, Pentcho Valev is the unique Ghost Star in the universe August 15 2009, 4:00 PM

Anonym: "Bob can you prove you are not Pentcho ?"

Can you give good cause to show that I am Pentcho? And moreover, why would you even care!

Pentcho is, far and away, smarted than me, or anyone else on this board as far as that goes, in my most humble opinion of course.

Anonymous: "Bob can you prove you are not Pentcho ?"

Jose: "Anonymous, can you prove you are not cinci, or Iggy Liggety, or minimax?"

You know way too much about way too little of a subject. And by your grammar and punctuation we assume you must be from Eritrea, or Etheopia.

"And by your grammar and punctuation we assume you must be from Eritrea, or Etheopia."

tells everything about you

So stupid that he can't even conceive it.
Would he only guess at his own stupidity, he would avoid posting any comment here.