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hi, ok lets not kid ourselfs on,getting a catholic to leave their church is impossible without lots of prayers, we no the word says, acts 13:48 , GOD walks up his chosen children, who are dead in sin, lost, and heading for hell, we talk, and talk to cults and catholics, not forgetting the complete lost, that never bothers about ,HEAVEN/ HELL, why is rome so good at getting her plans for her people to be most times to work, like any cult, she starts with the kids , infaint baptisiam, then tell them as kids of terrible times that will happen to them, if they leave the church, or read the truth in the bible, so years and years later we have so much feah given out to this lost people, and the church in rome, giving out half-truths , when any one has to wear a pointed hat, worship , anything other than christ then, its no hope, for that church and its leaders are not, christian, this set-up and all who teach from rome, are heading for HELL, SORRY BUT ITS TRUE,most catholics are lazy in reading the word, why because one has to be a born-again believer, only in CHRIST, NOT THE MAN, OR PRIEST, POPE, i know sometimes other groups tend to jump in and bash catholics, i say to all catholics get down on your knees, ask christ to come into your heart, and give you life, we love you, and only, leaving this church will bring you to stop and think, about everlasting life, to trust this on a man, no matter how holy he sounds, or how he dresses, if he is not preaching all whay the bible says, then run from him, its CHRIST ONLY CHRIST, not mary, pope,or lighting candles, its CHRIST WHO SAVED you, may GOD, OPEN UP ALL OF YOUR HEARTS AND MINDS, GOD BLESS, GEORGE57, FROM SCOTLAND. RICHARD BENNETT SITE, after 21 years of rome teaching, why did the lord wake him up.,find out, now working his heart out to bring all catholics to salvation, find him on line, good honest stuff. by by, and may my lord who saved me 25 years ago , from HELL, . george57, anyone wants to chat, are welcome. george57george_lloyd57.msn.com
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 9:51 AM from IP address 81.101.157.167
Why do roman catholics keep mimicking that their church gave us the Bible and claim history proves it, but they never cite any authorized, verifiable evidence? They just keep repeating what they have been taught but that doesn't make it truth. Do the research people before you make a claim. Don't just keep making statements without citing proof.
Posted on Oct 20, 2009, 5:51 AM from IP address 69.207.120.167
Gods Word is Inviolate our Christian faith is based on his WORD
It cannot be misunderstood it cannot deviate from the truth. God is truth.
This is no longer a private revelation. The Church cannot say you can believe this revelation or not. Gods Word is not open for debate His Word Is Inviolate.
Gods Church on earth has put its seal upon Gods Word
GODS WORD cannot and most not be trifled with to do so is to commit blasphemy
I need an official response and answer to the question is Gods word Inviolate.
Then contradict what I am saying
Gods word is inviolate .
From the very start her superiors had no trust in her vision . If her superiors had been spiritual they would have accepted her attempt no matter how poor her picture might have been. But it did not fit their earthly concept of (beauty, goodness) so they portrayed God in their own image.
Earthly hands violated Gods word to fit their own earthly vision of goodness their actions were blasphemous
These words are now as Holy Scripture. Gods Church on earth has placed its seal on them.
These words have been given to Gods Church on earth and accepted.
The Churches actions affirms this.
First apparition as recorded 22nd February 1931.
As she knelt Our Lord Spoke.
Paint a picture according to the vision you see and with the inscription: Jesus I Trust in Thee
I desire that this picture be venerated first in your chapel and then throughout the world.
A picture is now in Gods House on earth but it is not the picture commanded by God. It is an image made in mans own image. Blasphemy in Gods own house.
It bears the inscription Jesus I Trust in Thee Gods word taken from the revelation to Sister Kowalska. Now confirmed as Saint Faustina .
Gods word in Gods House is not open to debate His word is inviolate.
The first part of the vision is a Command from God directed at her and her only. Sister Kowalska to paint a picture according to the vision you see. Sister Kowalska. No one else can paint this picture. (no one else can see what she saw).
And with the inscription Jesus I Trust in thee.
This is open for any one in any land or language to inscribe.
The second part does not command but requests (desires) that this picture be venerated first in your chapel and then thought the world. We are given a choice treated as Gods friends not servants God trusts us to do his will.
The picture she paints must be venerated and no other.
Her original attempt must become the picture on display.
The official picture on display is made in mans own image it relates to earthly beauty (goodness) it pertains to the senses and is blasphemous.
The original picture to spiritual beauty (goodness) it pertains to humility.
The pure (humble)in heart shall see God.
Satan was thrown out of heaven for disobeying Gods Word.
He wanted to make God in his own Image also
Every Kingdom divided against itself is laid waste
and house falls upon house.
The established church cannot condone this
Blasphemy in one of its houses
Paint a picture according to the vision you see
Gods word is inviolate our Christian faith is based on his word. It cannot be misunderstood it cannot deviate from the truth. God is truth
Any one who alters the meaning deliberately commits Blasphemy
Quote: vision you see---Sister Faustina
The official picture is based on a lie it is Blasphemous
And must be removed.
You are correct it is a photocopy of the first page of a pamphlet issued by Our blessed Ladys press Swansea SA5 D5.uk
This is the information given out in the Leeds dioceses to the laity to promote the cause for Beatification of sister Faustina from 1996-98. This pamphlet was still been used in England and Scotland in 2002.
I wrote to the Marian Fathers Hereford May 1996 with the letter shown in the first section my article on your web site Mother church I am angry it is true. I did not receive a reply ( I put my name and address on the back of the letter).
I wrote again two weeks later on the 26th May96 part of this letter included the second section in my article Reflection I keep looking at etc. I received no reply I wrote to various people within the catholic community and again I received no reply apart from one letter form a catholic nun in March 2000 which was reassuring. Eventually I had to put to one side this effort to be heard but I remained confident in Christ that one day this would be addressed.
I had started to try and write a book The Construction of Dreams in 2000 and wanted to include within the book information concerning Sister Faustina I wrote to the Divine Mercy Information. Dunbartonshire Scotland asking permission to use information out of the Pamphlet used in Leeds in 1996 -98 .
7.8.2002 reply
Your letter 6.6.02 we would like to let you know that you are free to use any of the information contained in the leaflet Divine Mercy ( Saint M Faustina Kowalska ) produced on our behalf by Our Blessed Ladys Press St Michael 2 Beverley Close Swansea.
Allen Canning for the Apostolate of Divine Mercy
Quite recently I found an article on the internet I was shocked to see that the format had been changed. The original information given to the laity Paint a picture according to the vision you see Has now become Paint a Image according to the Pattern you see. This has given me the spur try again. My article is based on the original information given to the laity over a long period of time.
The point I am trying to make in my article is that the original picture should be venerated.
From the very start her superiors had no trust in her vision . If her superiors had been spiritual they would have accepted her attempt no matter how poor her picture might have been.
In her first vision Jesus instructed HER to Paint a picture according to the vision you see. Gods Word is in Inviolate. Her superiors would have know this
( at first she tried to sketch it her self she was no artist and failed after many trials someone was found who could and did paint it)
but they could not accept God been portrayed in this manner so they portrayed ( made) God in their own image.
Earthly hands violated Gods word to fit their own vision of goodness their actions were blasphemous.
This article has developed into an article about spiritual corruption at the highest level.
Our Christian Theologians are supposed to have Theological virtues (those virtues that are infused into a man by a special grace of God.
Gods word is Inviolate
We have to ask the question where are they? How can this happen?
Where are the defenders of the faith? the protectors of the flock.
This violation of the Word of God cannot go unanswered
No Christian can defend the indefensible
If our Theologian do not uphold this sacred belief the establish church would be lost
This group of Christians has on its main site page
The protector of the sons of light against the sons of darkness
St Michael the Archangel
There is a war is raging within and without the church
If we do not hold tightly to are beliefs we put are souls at risk
Is Gods Word Inviolate
Yes or No
kevin
In Christ
Letter sent to
Marian Fathers may 1996
Divine Mercy
Mother church, I am angry, it is true I have many bones to pick with you.
I read about a nun, the mirror of her heart shone in the dark
She held the lord in the most perfect way, tender heart, water, and gentle ray
Paint me in such away, that they will know what I want to say, taste the water feel the gentle ray
The result was stark like a tree with out bark, she might as well have painted in the dark
An earthly hand said this will never do, paint it anew She drew and drew but in her heart she new that for the hand of authority, it would never do
We will have another do it anew we dont want them to laugh at you.
We will make it in our image perfect in every way, your reflection is failure, take it away.
I knew a child I knew him well he tried to draw a picture for you as well. No child was more honest and this is true on first communion day you tore his heart in two. You cannot read you cannot pray, this is a sin this is not the perfect way, go away. Guilt was the price to pay I did not know the correct words to say. Benediction came can I ring the bell no you will not do it well. But I do all you ask, why are you like an Asp. Puberty came, now this really was sin, I could not win. I tried but all you did was chide. In trust I gave you the picture of my heart, you tore it apart
I took you at your word you see you said. Be perfect, just like me. You new that my heart fell at the apple tree you did not tell that you fell as well
Now we have a picture on display, perfect in every way. Whose reflection is shown?
Why does hers, not hold the higher place, was not she the one with the grace. But for you Mother it will not do it must be perfect to reflect you.
Will love find a way to show the truth, form the way and mould a heart so that it may pray.
Let the children come and play, taste the water and feel the gentle ray
so that they might live in day
Venerate the picture of broken man, we reflect the lords heart the best we can.
Father we only have to turn to you and always you give the morning dew. Your heart is nailed to a tree, so that we dance free when we bend our knee.
Sent to The Marian Fathers
May 26th 1996.
Part of the second letter dated
Reflection.
I keep looking at a small drawing I did myself, of the published picture, of Our Lord
And reflecting on the words Jesus I put my trust in you My drawing is quite pathetic and I am so aware of my own inadequacies I feel a tender ray upon my heart and feel truly loved in my fallen nature.
Will no one respond.
Kevin T Walters
Wetherby Leeds LS22 7QG.
England
01937 583870 ph/fax
See Catholic Truth Scotland-Web- Question and Answers link 3
Posted on Oct 3, 2009, 11:14 PM from IP address 78.148.65.172
OK, i just LOVE your site!!!! your truthfulness without any sugar-coating is exactly what people need to hear (especially catholics!).
God bless you for being so forthright about the most sinister of all false religions...
if catholics (like ANY one who follows a false religion) could just see: their faith in a deviant doctrine will send them straight to hell. Scripture couldn't be more clear about it.
but one always has to keep it in the right perspective:
CATHOLICS ARE NOT THE ENEMY.....RATHER, THEY ARE VICTIMS O-F THE ENEMY!
Posted on Aug 21, 2009, 9:06 PM from IP address 68.13.88.199
I jumped off the RC boat in '65 after 13 years of brain washing, four of which were courtesy of the Society of Jesus at Loyola Highschool in Los Angeles, CA.
I still get blind sided by my internalized Catholic Borderline Personality Disorder Mother and my internalized RC church.
Keeping both in sight and yet at a safe distance is a continual struggle.
I have been looking for a site like this for some time.
I look forward to learning from the insightfulness of others and posting thoughts and experiences from my own post-RC life.
Sincerely,
Jim Klein
Posted on Aug 14, 2009, 10:20 AM from IP address 67.101.80.44
The Church is the pillar of truth and the foundation
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When quoting the catechism, why do you omit the scripture references?Which came first? Bible or church? The church has plenty of problems but they are caused by ordinary men like ourselves. Jesus is most present in his sacraments.
Posted on Jul 15, 2009, 4:15 PM from IP address 72.178.96.211
...a fallen away Catholic? or just a Protestant who honestly doesn't understand what Catholics believe? Do you REALLY desire to know the Truth as it has been given to us from Jesus Christ through the Apostles (even as you have received the Bible from the hands of the Catholic Church, like it or not, as history proves), or do you just have this website for sport to bash the one true Church of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ which HE founded-- which is a sin against charity (i.e. love of God and neighbor)?
Even if you believe you are right (which you are not), you err in virtue, for Christ died to save all mankind. He forgave all, including sinners inside and outside of His Church...but only His Church is joined to Him as Members of His Body. Only those who truly seek Him in spirit and in truth will find Him.
Therefore, to set up a website to bash what you either already know to be true (but seek to destroy in revenge because you have a beef against a certain priest, or against a certain teaching of the Church [like contraception, maybe?]) or because you don't know to be true (try going to an RCIA class and find out what the Catholic Church REALLY teaches [not the lies you choose to read from anti-Catholic literature]- at least at a class you can present your confusion to the source), to set up a website to cause scandal by cutting down your neighbor in anger or in ignorance is a grave sin before God Who calls us FIRST to love. It will not go unpunished before the Almighty One Who is Perfect and knows each of our hearts.
Posted on Jul 10, 2009, 11:32 PM from IP address 97.120.142.221
Reading your site is alot like reading "The DaVinci Code".
There are enough facts to be dangerous, but not enough facts to be right. To begin, be careful using the word dogma. You cite Papal bulls from the 1300s as dogma, when they are not. According to several Canon lawyers that I have studied with, the only things you HAVE to believe as a Catholic are contained in the Nicene Creed
"We believe one God, the Father, the Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation He came down from Heaven: By the power of the Holy Spirit He was born of the Virgin Mary and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, died and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and His kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord the Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, With the Father and the Son He is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen"
Council of Nicea, 325 A.D.
This is what you must believe to be a Roman Catholic. Most main stream Christian religions are Creed based, with the exception of the Baptist Church and possibly the Bible Churches (not actually sure on that one).
As Catholics we do not believe that:
a) only Catholics can go to heaven
b) only Christians can go to heaven
The Catholic Church has chosen to take the position that only God decides who goes to heaven, and that Jesus' sacrifice on the cross assured salvation for all who accept it, and that the empty tomb is proof of our salvation. W I personally hope that God is much more forgiving than human beings are!
You quote documents that are 700 years old and in fact do not fall under the cloak of Papal infallibility which you seem to question. So webmaster, do you know how many times Papal infallibility has been invoked since it's inception? Once! And that decree was? Find out and let me know. Be very careful to distinguish between Dogma and the Ordinary Magisterium of the Church. They are not the same.
Every Roman Catholic is taught beginning in the first grade that only God can forgive sin. The priest in the confessional is simply an intermediary so that the penitent actually hears the words "You are absolved from your sins". In the early Christian Church public confession was required for transgressions against the community. Most Catholics will tell you that the act of naming your misdeeds makes them much easier to deal with. Which is worse, the prideful attitude that says "How dare you tell me I have to confess my sins to be forgiven?!" Or the directive that says "Everyone should come to God at least once a year to ask forgiveness for their sins." The Catholic Church also teaches that there is NO unforgiveable sin. You only have to ask. In fact, the Catholic Church also says that a perfect act of contrition is all that is needed to be forgiven for even a mortal sin. No priest required. Most people aren't comfortable with the concept of a perfect act of contrition so private confession is a more comfortable option. Occaisionally, Catholic Churches will have penitential ceremonies where a very large group of people are all granted absolution for their sins without actually talking to a priest. But having a priest talk to you about why this is a problem for you and give guidance for your spiritual life is actually a pretty good deal for the average person, and also may explain why Catholics have a significantly lower suicide rate than the general population.
Remember "Keep holy the Lord's Day" isn't something Rome made up. Jesus went to the synagogue on the Sabbath to honor His Father, we are just emulating Him. If you want to go straight to the beach and play in the sand instead of spending a whole hour or two hearing God's word and worshipping Him amidst a community of believers and then going to the beach or shopping or the movie, go ahead. Is one hour once a week asking so very much? Have dinner with your parents once a week, it keeps the relationship strong.
I could continue on, but I suspect that you don't really care. I would like to say that Yes, the Catholic Church does believe that it holds the full deposit of the Faith. Doesn't every church believe this? If you don't in your church, why in heaven's name are you there? Are you waiting for something better to come along? We, as Catholics, have simply moved away from the big foam finger and the "We're #1!" chant. Yes, we still know that we are right, but are still willing to say that you're probably not all wrong, and that God is gracious enough to allow room for error on humanity's part, after all look how badly we've messed things up over and over and over again!
Posted on May 28, 2009, 4:25 PM from IP address 72.54.163.102
Thanks for this very logical approach to the dilemma of being Catholic. Other sites simply attack Catholics-- I appreciate that you did not. You also did not misrepresent Catholic teaching simply to serve your own cause which would make Catholics stop reading. I teeter between Catholicism and Protestantism-- this is the best site I have seen to sway me toward Protestantism. I'll tell you, though, it's hard to leave the Catholic Church-it's deeply ingrained into people that they're not supposed to leave. Unfortunately, most people I know who grow up and realize these dilemmas of being Catholic simply become agnostic (it's so ingrained in them that they cannot be Protestant that they become NOTHING!).
Posted on May 25, 2009, 5:14 AM from IP address 72.48.41.252
If you think this forum is fair to the Catholic Church, you really need to spend more time learning about the Catholic Church. You should start watching EWTN, especially the show "The Journey Home" about Protestant ministers converting to Catholicism. Don't leave; the Catholic Church is the pearl of great price.
Posted on May 26, 2009, 8:33 PM from IP address 98.17.21.41