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Kill Diablo, no credit?

April 13 2001 at 2:12 AM
  (Login ShowNoMercy)
from IP address 64.42.29.14

 
This is the second time I've seen Diablo die from a party and the party members get nothing. Could it be that if the person killing D (makes the final hit) has done it already, then the party members are SOL? No question that everyone was in the party and no question that 2 of 3 members hadn't killed D before (the barb got away before I thought of this). Considering the drop was crummy, I suspect that the barb killed D and had done so before...

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(Login Grizelda)
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65.12.162.187

what do you mean by no credit?

April 13 2001, 2:20 AM 

Hi! When you say "no credit," do you mean that you didn't get a good item drop from Diablo, or that you weren't given credit for the quest (and therefore weren't able to move on to the next difficulty level)?

If you're talking about item drops, then you're absolutely right, D only drops a special item if the person who lands the killing blow hasn't killed him before.

As far as quest credit, that depends on who created the game. Before killing D, check your quest screen and make sure that the quest is available. If it's not, you'll never get credit for killing D in that game.

-Griselda

 
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(Login ShowNoMercy)
64.42.29.14

never depend on other players....

April 13 2001, 2:29 AM 

That necro was trying so hard, I got lured into helping without checking Quests. Which also happened the one other time D has died without difficulty credit.

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(Login danny_boi_89)
152.163.206.208

Happens all the time...<vlt>

April 13 2001, 2:21 AM 

Was the barb the game creator?
man, I'm suprised there's still life around here right now...*opens window..."SHUT UP YOU STUPID BIRDS ITS 2:18 IN THE MORNING!"* stupid birds -_- they're not owls either, they're chirping at the middle of the night. watches an owl eat the stupid bird

 
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(Login ShowNoMercy)
64.42.29.14

no credit

April 13 2001, 2:26 AM 

Nope, barb was a late joiner. That might also have been it, a NM game created by a Hell qualified player.
My excuse is that I gave up D2 in Feb, and was attracted back by the XP beta offer, so I've forgotten all those "things you should do" like check the Quests FIRST.


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(Login Grizelda)
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65.12.162.187

that was it for sure

April 13 2001, 2:28 AM 

"a NM game created by a Hell qualified player."

In any game, the only quests available will be those available to the game's creator (even if you are not partied with that person).

-Griselda

 
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(Login Borlag-KFO)
193.229.72.75

As said before by others....

April 13 2001, 6:39 AM 

The quest must be active (unsolved) by the person landing the killing blow. AND it has to be active in that game (meaning, game creator hasn't completed it yet).

This can be sometimes very annoying if you lose your "uberdrop" because someone else lands the final blow in the game. But this simply can't be helped at times. Only way to ensure that drop is to play the act bosses solo.

Of course with this system it's basically possible for you to kill diablo without even getting the quest done if the person who made the game has already completed the quest. Why would anyone specifically want to though, that I don't know heh.

Borlag
Sorceress 77, Barbarian 68, Bow-Amazon 63, Paladin 54, Pike-Amazon 26, Necromancer 23, Lightning Sorceress 19
Borlags World

 
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(Login --Pete)
65.0.13.100

Not entirely true

April 13 2001, 8:17 AM 

Hi,

The quest must be active (unsolved) by the person landing the killing blow.

Not true. In making "sirs" to enable hard core, the phoney "sir-to-be" will get the credit even if the shepherd has already completed the quest and does the actual killing. This we've done a few times.

It doesn't always work, and I haven't tried it often enough to completely pin it down, but it seems that, if the "sir-to-be" is on the level where the boss dies and does some damage to the boss, then he'll get the credit no matter who strikes the final blow. I do know that not one of those "sir-to-be" struck the killing blow (in one case, he was dead when that happened). I don't know why it failed in the cases it did, but that was only with Diablo (not the other act end bosses), and I suspect "sir-to-be" did not do any damage.

--Pete



 
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(Login Borlag-KFO)
193.229.72.75

Correction.....

April 13 2001, 10:11 AM 

I meant the drop when I told that. If the quest is active in the game, meaning the maker of the game hasn't completed it. No matter who deals the killing blow, aslong as you're in the area where Diablo is, quest is solved.

As for drop, it has to be "virgin" for D kill in that diff.

Maybe that clears what I was trying to say.

Borlag
Sorceress 77, Barbarian 68, Bow-Amazon 63, Paladin 54, Pike-Amazon 26, Necromancer 23, Lightning Sorceress 19
Borlags World

 
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(Login --Pete)
65.0.13.100

Not trying to pick on you, but still not true

April 13 2001, 10:34 AM 

Hi,

If the quest is active in the game, meaning the maker of the game hasn't completed it. No matter who deals the killing blow, aslong as you're in the area where Diablo is, quest is solved.

Sorry, but that isn't the way it works for Diablo and gaining access to the next level. From my (admittedly limited) experience, even if you are in the area, and the quest is active, if someone who has previously killed Diabo kills him this time, you might not get credit for the quest. On a couple of occasions, trying to build a fast "sir" to enable HC on an new account, the quest was active and the "sir-to-be" was in the area, but we had to do it over because he did not get credit. On other occasions, "sir-to-be" did get credit. My guess (and that's all it is) is that, in addition to being in the area, "sir-to-be" must do some damage to Diablo. I know that he does not need to stike the killing blow.

On at least one occasion, however, the "sir-to-be" was dead at the time Diablo was killed, yet got the credit for the quest. Others have reported that if the character killing Diablo is doing it for the first time, everyone partied with that person gets credit for the kill, even if in the PF at the time.

So, the situation is not that simple. I don't know what all the requirements are, but I do know that they are more than you list.

--Pete



 
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(Login zerbot)
207.207.83.153

Getting credit in the PF

April 13 2001, 11:14 AM 

I have four such trials under my belt so far, each time the mule has simply stood in the PF partied with the character who does Diablo in. Now the character killing Diablo has not yet done this quest in these trials. Some interesting stuff from Andariel trials:

Shepherd hasn't done Andariel quests, sheep in town, partied: credit
Shepherd done Andariel quest, sheep in town, partied: no credit
Shepherd done Andariel quest, sheep on Cats 4, *unpartied*: gets credit and the Cats 4 TP that opens when you kill Andariel opened by the sheep nowhere near where Andariel died.

 
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