<b>gerard:</b> all of those things require neceesary energy and action to get an equal amout of reaction. They all are a result of another force.
<b>gallo:</b> Really!? I asked you to explain them to me. It seems that all you can do is postulate some imaginary energy input. Please, please explain the energy input in the Casimir effect. Please, Please explain the energy input into an atomic pile that results in a fission reaction.
I notice that the only system that you decided to mention was music, where you diverted the attention away from the actual chaotic system and pretended that we were talking about the musician.
<b>gerard:</b> So reasonably and in comparison to YOUR own example...what force caused or started in motion 'the beginning' of things.
<b>gallo:</b> How is that relevant to your claim that order never comes from chaos? You have failed to show that any of the chaotic systems that I mentioned do not result in order. Why should I pretend that your question is meaningful? How is it meaningful for you to postulate a force and them demand that I show you where there is one where there is none.
<b>gerard:</b> I am sure, since you have all the answers apparently...who is worthy to speak with you.
<b>gallo:</b> Stop whining and grow up. Perhaps if anything you said actually had a basis in reality and was not a figment of your imagination you wouldn't look like such a fool. Now show us that you actually know what you are talking about and explain each of the systems the I mentioned. Or maybe it would be better for you to simply admit that you don't know anything about chaos and tuck your tail and run.
<b>gerard:</b> I laugh actually reading people so full of themselves...they need to give their education resume online to impress others...ooh...okay...sorry not impressed.
<b>gallo:</b> You have described yourself. You know nothing about any of the systems I asked you about so you resort to insult in an effort to hide it. And what kind of remark is "education resume online" supposed to be? Where did I mention my resume? At least you could have the integrity not to lie.