DOUBLE SHALOM: We know that a phenomenon is observed behavior of matter or energy. But what class of phenomena is evolution aimed at explaining?
DEMON38: The change in allele frequencies in populations of organisms over time.
DOUBLE SHALOM: That is not adequate to explain speciation.
DEMON38: Gee, that was easy to answer!
DOUBLE SHALOM: Try again!!! Talk about positive mutations and natural selection. However, if indeed since the time of the ancient Greek up to date nowhere has speciation been observed in nature then it means that there is no observable phenomenon.
DEMON38: Except speciation HAS been observed! We've pointed this out to you innumerable times and you were never able to falsify it. Let me refresh your memory.....
Cichlids, bla bal bla…
DOUBLE SHALOM: I’ve been to Malawi before. Simply because you see similar fish then you conclude that this fish is an uncle of that fish that is the mother of that cousin fish and so on and so fourth. Illusions after illusions. When will you ever get tired of speaking trash? The fish in Lake Malawi is no different from the fish in Lake Tanganyika or Lake Bangweulu. So if you go to Lake Tanganyika, will you say that this is where speciation occurred. Similarity does not entail common descend.
DEMON38: Cichlid fish are well known to biologists for their rapid rate of evolution. While it takes many animals thousands of years to form new species, the cichlids of Africa's Lake Malawi are estimated to have formed 1,000 new species in only 500,000 years, lightning speed in evolutionary terms.
DOUBLE SHALOM: And the demons in you must have witnessed speciation 500,000 years ago.
DEMON38: In the 1960s a fish exporter may have unwittingly set the stage for an evolutionary explosion when he introduced individuals of the species Cynotilapia afra to Mitande Point on the lake's Thumbi West Island. As of 1983, the species hadn't budged from Mitande Point. But when Streelman, then at the University of New Hampshire, Durham, and colleagues went to the island in 2001, they found the fish had evolved into two genetically distinct varieties in less than 20 years. The study appears in the August 13 edition of Molecular Ecology.
DOUBLE SHALOM: Wau!!! And what happened to the original population? No interbreeding was observed??? What a great scientist. He must have sat in his rocking chair by the waters all day and all night for 20 years shouting at any possible little sex maniacs of fish who were daring to have some casual sex. I’m sure he shambocked those that defied his order and thus the naughty fish was afraid to be promiscuous.
DEMON38: Observed speciation,…
DOUBLE SHALOM: You mean fish sex.
DEMON38: …..your point is disproven, evolution is science and well supported science.
DOUBLE SHALOM: Evolution is a religion of speculation accounting for that which is not observed.
DEMON38: Salamander, salamander…..Two of the "subspecies" have differentiated to a point that they do not interbreed, which satisfies the definition of two species. And yet the populations that makeup this species are connected via interbreeding intermediate populations.
DOUBLE SHALOM: So you admit you can’t stop salamanders from having sex thus reproducing across varieties of salamander.
DEMON38: Look up ring species, and let's not forget the nylon eating bacteria that clearly evolved from non nylon eating bacteria.
DOUBLE SHALOM: How can I forget that nylon eating bacteria preexisted nylon invention in 1935?
DEMON38: Yes, speciation has been observed and documented and empirically tested in the present and in the past. Your point is pisproven.
DOUBLE SHALOM: How you wish!!! Speciation is only real in your opinion.