Fractals

by squeak

 
Examples: Clouds, mountainops, and lightening bolts....

Is this your example from chaos? Seems to me that it is circular reasoning saying that nature begets nature. I would say it is nature following specific designs. Tell me what hurricanes create a city? What bang have you witnessed that designed something? What chaos caused these things? Bc the example you have given just takes us back to the original argument. Circular reasoning, I want something outside the box, something verifiable.

Perfect order- maybe perfect shouldn't be the adjective since perfect is in the eyes of the beholder. However all the things you listed as uninhabitable or undesirable about earth also has a purpose in providing support for lifeforms! So while you might not be able to live on the south or north poles, could they be done away with? How well would the the rest of the planet function without any of those things? Isn't that what the global warmers keep telling us? Can't live on 'em, can't live without 'em!

Dying a moment in space doesn't apply unless you address design. Because of this little prevention called gravity that keeps life glued to its livable areas, man wouldn't even know of its inhabital areas without design. Man had to design specific vehicles to take him to every area you describe as unfit for life, and then they also had to design a way to go there and be able to survive the journey...even mountain tops. So you can't even talk about those places unless you include DESIGN!

So man cannot even talk intelligently about the universe without the designs that they have made to explore it. Yet, those same men want to exclaim that design has nothing to do with any of it. I'd like them to try to explain the origins without acknowledging design....it is simply impossible.

And while you may not be able to point to perfect order, you certainly can point to reliable order. Order that functions with purpose and functions perfectly so often that it causes chaos when it does not function. In that I would point to any number of creations: Tesla's radio and alternating currents, Bell's telephone system, and the internet. None of these happened from total chance and chaos. Even Bell's design only lacked one component, and was not a total accident from utter chaos.

These are just a few of man's best designs, they are highly ordered and they have a purpose, but more importantly they didn't happen without a designer. Man didn't give purpose for the universe, the universe is purposeful because it supports man (and all life). Man didn't have the ability to give it that purpose.



Posted on Nov 26, 2006, 6:19 PM

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