Let's lay it out on the table--Creationism vs. Evolution. Two stories to describe one event that we have never witnessed nor will ever prove conclusively. Which story sounds better? Why? and/or why waste your time discussing it?
Well, this forum looks dead.
by MagentaStudios
I used to post here frequently, and now all I see are some bizzare racist manifestos, and a few "anti-liberal" rants.
Isn't this place about Evolution vs Creationism anymore?
Or have all the creationists realized how silly they were and run off?
I feel like a cat waiting for a mouse to come out of its hole so he can play with it.
Im still waiting for a liberal to come out of his/her hole, so I can have someone to play with :)
Its kinda fun. You know pick up a liberal and toss him in the air and watch him run around in circles. Then chase the liberal and catch him only to let him go so he can run again.
Place the liberal in a Habitrail maze and watch him try to figure it out and find the exit.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Liberals can be a constant source of entertainment and enjoyment :)
Perhaps Liberals are afraid to peek outside their little holes! Just knowing Jonathan Zimmerman is waiting to pounce :)
He was supposed to stick around and tell me how Islam is this great peaceful beautiful religion full of wonderful peace-loving people who make Earth a better and safer place to be in!
I think Miquel has finally realized his idealized liberal view of the world is like Fantasy Island.
He went to Fantasy Island because he was told it was such a great place, but he was simply naive and got mugged by one of the guests:)
Miquel has finally realized Santa Claus does not exist, and is "freaking out"!
You went to Reality Island and decided it was not for you. So now your back and have convinced yourself that Santa Claus really does exist.
You dissociate from that mugging on your trip to Fantasy Island (Liberal Island), and reality is just too hard to deal with, so now your back and giving us a bunch of crap about soaking sun and wine.
So far, two of your points have been addressed and burned to the ground! They went down faster than you can polish off a bottle of wine! Your idiotic defense of pork and praying to Allah were the two topics. To which to this day, you have not given a rebuttal or even bothered to defend the stupidity of being afraid to eat pork, or the stupidity of getting carpet burns five times a day, in order to praise some imaginary fucked up deity.
It's rather comical too, you mysteriously disappear while your defense of Islam was being laughed at and shown to be hogwash, and as soon as it dies down, you quickly show up, claiming that you were on some magical vacation in the sun while drinking wine.
So come on, tell me again, why is being afraid of pigs a wonderful thing and why is praying 5 times to an imaginary deity so amazing! Or did you abandon your former notion you boozed up Christian alcholic!
Maybe you should have stayed on fantasy Island with your wine bottle, mumbling to yourself about how great Islam is, and how Jesus Christ is Allah! ;-D
MITTEN:
"So far, two of your points have been addressed and burned to the ground! They went down faster than you can polish off a bottle of wine! Your idiotic defense of pork..."
Perhaps you could quote where I "defended pork"?
LOL
I merely pointed out that dietary restrictions are not limited to Islam nor are they based on superstition. To date you have been unable to argue these points.
MITTEN:
"...and praying to Allah were the two topics."
Hmmmm - once again perhaps you can point out what you mean here? I confess I don't understand. Are you referring to the use of loudspeakers by Muezzins or what?
MITTEN:
"To which to this day, you have not given a rebuttal..."
Hard to believe since I answered your original post point by excruciating point.
So far it is you that has been unable to counter the points I made - but by all means repeat your arguments and I will have a go ok?
MITTEN:
"...or even bothered to defend the stupidity of being afraid to eat pork..."
As I have pointed out ad nauseam, I merely pointed out that dietary restrictions are neither exclusively Islamic nor steeped in superstition and in fact are not absolute (meaning that the strictures can be broken in extremis).
You have, as yet been unable to explain how your comments are thus sustainable with respect only to Islam.
MITTEN:
"...or the stupidity of getting carpet burns five times a day, in order to praise some imaginary fucked up deity."
Since you yourself used to obey a similar stricture by going to mass every Sunday I find your comment highly amusing.
:-P
You have, in all your diatribes against Islam, attempted to hold up its practices as somehow uniquely stupid. I in turn have pointed out that they are by no means unique.
You have thus far been unable to do more than tendentiously repeat yourself on these topics.
MITTEN:
"It's rather comical too, you mysteriously disappear while your defense of Islam was being laughed at and shown to be hogwash, and as soon as it dies down, you quickly show up, claiming that you were on some magical vacation in the sun while drinking wine."
LOL.
Well it WAS a magical vacation in my opinion. ANd the Barossa valley in Australia has some excellent wines. Rutherglen also has magnificent Muscats & Tokays.
However as for you claiming that you showed my comments to be hogwash - please feel free to post them again right here using the links I provided in my last post by way of reference.
;-)
MITTEN:
"So come on, tell me again, why is being afraid of pigs a wonderful thing..."
Allow me to demonstrate illogic and bad comprehension:
1.) Not eating pork does not equate to being afraid of pigs. By your reasoning all Catholics must be afraid of Cows, Sheep & Chickens only on Fridays.
LMAO
;-D
2.) Pointing out that other religions have similar dietary strictures and that those strictures have historical reasons behind them do not quate to qualifying such strictures as "wonderful".
Once again I ask YOU to demonstrate how Islam is different from any other religion with dietary restrictions?
As in your Bible-thumping, pre-apostate days you show a singular lack of being able to grasp a or even stick to a point.
MITTEN:
"...why is praying 5 times to an imaginary deity so amazing!"
Who said it was "amazing"?
You should be able to quote where I have made such a qualitative statement about Muslim prayer.
Also please explain how praying for approximately 15 minutes, 5 times a day is any different in essence from praying for 1 hour one day a week?
MITTEN:
"...Or did you abandon your former notion you boozed up Christian alcholic!"
The only 'notion' I have ever had is to demonstrate your comments as being devoid of logic or education.
You have done me a singular favour in continuing to help me do so.
:-)
MITTEN:
"Maybe you should have stayed on fantasy Island with your wine bottle, mumbling to yourself about how great Islam is, and how Jesus Christ is Allah! ;-D"
I suppose Australia IS an Island (and a continent) so I think I will take you up on that. So far my travels have revealed few places in the world with a comparable mix of the blessings of nature.
I will continue showing the glaring errors and untruths you peddle about anything - be it history, Islam, evolution or Christianity.
Maybe you will eventually begin reading and drop the fanatically foaming "I hate everything" attitude just as you dropped your once fanatical defense of creation?
....while you attempt to defend your 'two main points' drollery, how about addressing the 17 other points of factual error I corrected you on and which you have been evading ever since I posted my rebuttal to your anti-Islamic diatribe?
JONATHAN:
"You dont think praying 5 times to some mythological fignution of their imagination is not superstitious?"
As I said earlier - what difference between praying 5 x 15 minute intervals per day and praying for 1 hour (at least) every Saturday or Sunday? Except quantitatively?
Superstition is defined as an irrational belief based on superstition or fear. That might be an accurate description for the reason for prayer for many people but it is not a convincing comment for all people who pray - regardless of how much or how little.
Your personal belief that all religion is superstitious is one thing, but your ability to prove that all religion (including Islam) can be thus defined in such a generalised matter has yet to be demonstrated.
You can use your trollish invective as much as you like mate - unfortunately for you it does nothing to aid your argument. In fact it only underscores your inability to apply logic in a sustained logical discussion.
When you have something fresh to add I will be happy to reply.
For the sake of argument lets assume the situation were reversed. Lets assume there are groups of white Americans
in China commiting acts of terrorism. We all know not all white Americans commit acts of terrorism, but China has been hit so many times they had no choice but implement procedures in an attempt to protect themselves.
Now being that I am white and an American, lets say I take a trip to China for business. I would have no problem being hand searched at the airport. I would understand their concerns.
Now I could be a prick, calling the Chinese biggots and taking offense that my "rights" have been violated and causing a big stir at the airport. Or I could be smart, and set my PRIDE aside, and realize that this is a good thing for me as well. To know Im safe.
I think the whole thing basically comes down to PRIDE and EGO. Taking things personally. Having a chip on your shoulder.
Whether you agree with the beliefs or not, you should learn a little respect for others.
Our modern system of experimentation and observation is a direct result of the writings of Arab scientists of the middle ages. Chemistry is a Muslim invention, as is the quadrant and the astrolabe. Muslims were the pioneers of the sciences in medieval times.
Before you denigrate people, perhaps you need to research their contributions to society first.
Now you're really getting desperate:) Who cares that 500 years ago a Muslim "invented" chemistry!
Ya, they invented hijackings in the name of Allah, but they also invented chemistry:)
The more you talk the dumber you show yourself to be!
Dear Mr. Hijacker. I know you're fucked up in the head thinking you are going to heaven to meet 10,000 virgins by commiting this hijacking and doing it all for Allah.
But I wanted to thank you because many moons ago one of your own invented chemistry. I wanted to Thank you!
By By Pepper! You've shown yourself to be a biggoted moron with an IQ of a hamster:)
Your own actions are not a credit to whatever belief you have,
even if your were an atheist. Bigotry is still bigotry. And calling
names and making fun of beliefs does not add anything to
conversation. But then I feel the same at attempts to convert me
either.
My only problem is when any religion claims it's holy book is God's word,
any of god or goddess for that matter. So if, as I suspect, all holy books are
written by man then we may have some men in the past trying to sell
their personal ideas as being God's.
That is a personal belief so quoting from any holy text means little to me
because I have no reason to believe that any holy books is other than the
creation of men. It is not uncommon for literate men to try to control
illiterate people by claiming special knowledge of any god/dess.
Religious belief is another case of personal opinion. I doubt it is a belief
that is changeable unless it is already not strong or already being questioned
by the person.
I don't trust people who can be converted by others. It strikes me they are
easily led. Now a change of belief that comes though the person's own search
is often quite another matter because it started from the inside. Beliefs and
opinion are strongest that develop from the inside rather than are sold from
the outside.
But despite my disagreements with a great many religions I see no point to
attacking someone's beliefs or calling them names. It simply serves no useful purpose beyond creating unnecessary conflict.
Talk about a hypocrite. You start throwing words like biggot around and then say something like that!
Ya, if you want to start unnecessary conflict then use the word biggot :)
I think its intersting to note that the cartoonists of South Park often make silly comments about Jesus that might offend Christians. But most Christians simply just dont watch the show. There has never been anything even close to the Muslim reaction.
If anyone here is to blame its the Muslims themselves. I mean you dont see me writing about Buddists do you? But then again when was the last time a Buddists hijacked a plane because someone said something negative about the Buddah?
I am more concerned about safety and protecting myself and my family, then in protecting someones "rights" or being worried I might hurt their feelings. If Im at an airport and a Muslim gets on the plane, they had better have hand searched their luggage or I will make sure they do.
If they get pissed but I land safely then fuck em. They will get over it. Its better then being hijacked and the emotional turmoil my family members would have to go thru.
Like Ive said. Muslims have nobody to blame then themselves.
It is us (non-Muslims) who ought to make the ruffle as we are being subjected to long hours of security checks because of what Islamics do.
Lets see... they commit acts of terrorism, and then our time is wasted at airports because now, extra security checks have to be made! And yet, they are the ones protesting and killing nuns and burning down embassy!
The last time I was at an airport it took me over two hours to go thru security. Had to take off my shoes and stand in line the entire time. It was a long, tiring, and frustrating ordeal.
If it were not for these stupid terrorists and their crazy mentality there would be no problem. The blame rests soley on them.
Stand proud Migel and Greeb, for these are the people you proudly defend. Perhaps you two would love to stand in the crowd and join their cheers? They live in the UK, and scream: "we want Danish blood, UK, you will pay!" Along with: "Denmark watch your back, Bin laden is coming back!"
What the fuck? They are threatening their own fucking country and want Danish blood and praise Bin Laden? Had Christians done the same in an Islamic country, screaming that Iran will pay and that they want Lebanese blood, they would have their throats slashed. But yet, in a civilized country, they can openly threaten their own country and people and get away with it.
Islam is a fucking cancer. Had I been some kind of ruler of the UK, I would bring in fire trucks filled with pigs blood and hose them down to cool them off and each and single one of them would be headed back to the middle east. If they hate the UK and Denmark, they can go back to their precious Palestine.
Of course, the Liberals would scream about human rights violations for shipping back the cancer to its homeland. FUCK THE LIBERALS! It's thanks to Liberals that Islamic garbage is allowed to get away with this crap! If the Liberals don't like it, they can go join their friends at Palestine and Iran.
If a group wearing blue jackets and glasses were hijacking airplanes it would be reasonable to screen anyone matching that description trying to get on an airplane.
But oh, even though we know there are Muslims extremists doing the same thing you cant do that with Muslims. Thats "discrimination" or "profiling".
I mean people are just trying to protect themselves!!
And yet even if it saved just one airplane from being hijacked, they would much rather keep their liberal nonsense and start throwing words like biggot around.
I mean if there were no Muslims doing these things, then there would be no need for it. I mean how many people would be truely terrified if they were sitting next to a buddist on an airplane? No reason to be concerned; I mean you never hear of a buddist doing these things!!
I've been watching these liberals and 'liberal conspiracy nuts' for a long time and I have concluded that they are the biggest anti-American freaks that are bending over and spreading their assholes wide open for Islam because they are scared to death of Islam. YES, Liberals fear Islam so much that they will start to attack their own country in order to please Islam. You know why I say this?
Because each time something happens with the Muslims, Liberals and liberal conspiracy nuts run to the aid of Islam and attack America each time the Muslims get mad. It happened with this Islamic profiling at airports. Muslims are a threat to this country and since we target them in order to protect innocent people, Liberals scream about how it is wrong to do this, simply because Muslims got mad.
And now recently, I've seen Liberals even condemn the pope as well because Muslims got mad at the pope over his comments. I saw liberals saying that the pope does not know what Islamic is about and yada yada yada in order to please Islam.
Each time Israel defends itself from her enemies, Liberals condemn Israel because Islam hates Israel. I've seen Liberals claim that Israel is the real terrorist and blah blah blah in order to please Islam.
And then there was that cartoon incident! As soon as it got the Muslims mad, the Liberals quickly sided with the Muslims and said that making cartoons about Islam was wrong. Talk about kissing the ass of Islam!
Now, you would think that the 9-11 attack, Liberals would be with America and yet, they again side with Islam, claiming that 9-11 was caused by the government. I remember how the Liberals and 'Liberal conspiracy nuts' were running wild when that 9-11 investigation was going on and they were so sure that the government would be found guilty of the 9-11 act. I remember them interviewing 'Condoleeza rice' and they found nothing. The investigation never found the government involved in the 911 attacks. But did this phase liberals and liberal conspiracy nuts? NOPE! It only gave rise to a new conspiracy, which was that the 9-11 investigators were really on the same side of the government! They need to say anything in order to please Islam!
It doesn't matter what Muslims do to Americans or America, each time there is an American killed by a Muslims, liberals and their conspiracy nut friends make excuses for terrorists and claim that the US government is really behind it. And with any act of terrorism in the world, they all blame the US for Islamic hate. They make excuses for terrorists, saying that they are terroists because of America so it is America's fault that there are terrorists.
Liberals are just fucked up chicken shits. WHY else do they run to the Islamic side and say things to please Muslims, each time Muslims get angry? It is simple! Liberals are scared of Muslims and will kiss their Asses to save their own poor pathetic Asses. And worst yet, I bet that Liberals don't even know that the root of their Islamic support is rooted in a subconscious terrifying fear of Islam. What a bunch of pussies!
Liberals and their conspiracy nuts really are nothing more than anti-American scared little deluded hypocritical crybabies that kiss the ass of Islam. They are a disgrace to not only the history of the US and Europe and what we have accomplished, but to every soldier who died to make America what it is. At one time, our soldiers risked their lives for America, now a days, we have Liberals who are too scared to die and fight for their country, and would rather kiss the ass of the enemy to save their hides.
I think it would be fun if someone sued the ACLU or some other liberal organization and won. I mean dont people have the right to protect themselves? And to do so without fear of persecution by being called a biggot?
I mean if profiling could have saved a family member from dying in a hijacked airplane (perhaps they could have found the weapons if they had searched the Muslim suitcases by hand)then it would be such a joy to see those responsible sued.
I think a little inconvenience the Muslims who are not hijacking would have to undergoe at an airport by being hand searched is far less then of a concern then the right not to be hijacked and killed.
I heard Muslims making a ruffle over the government having spies in mosques around the country as well. That too was a problem for them as well. But Muslims, before blasting out against them being targeted at airports, should understand that they have left the world with not much choice.
Muslims could clean up their image by two ways. They can either stop committing acts of terrorism or they can start to condemn acts of terrorism. If a billion Muslims started to condemn terrorism, the image of Islam would change. But if we instead, see throats being slashed and nuns being killed over cartoons and speaches, it only reinforces the idea that they need to be searched at airports.
Imagine this scenario: After the pope made his comments about Islam, there was no violent reaction from Islam and instead, Islam open up dialogue with the pope which was supported by a billion Muslims.
Now that kind of reaction is what it will take to clean up the image of Islam and it is a much better approach, than slashing throats and killing nuns.
Everyone knows Muslims are violent - every single one of them!
I don't give a rat's ass what their scriptures say or who interprets them, they are EVIL and love to blow people up!
How DARE they complain, protest or make a ruffle about our government keeping an eye on their Mosques! Who the hell do they think they are?
Of course we should target them at airports! They're MUSLIMS!!!!!
What idiots they and the liberals are quoting free speech and anti-discrimination!
WAKE UP PEOPLE.
They don't deserve free speech and they sure as hell deserve discrimination.
Everyone knows people who wear blue shirts and glasses are violent---Every single one of them.
How dare they try to protect themselves by screening people who wear blue shirts and glasses at airports and court houses and tap their phones, simply because it is known there are groups of gang leaders who wear blue shirts and glasses who cimmit violent crimes.
They are a bunch of biggots and Hitler want to be's.
Hell, my rights are being violated! I would much rather be able to wear my blue shirts and glasses and be totally free of any inconvenience, rather then understanding peoples concerns. And yes, even if it means preventing one blue shirt and glasses gang leader from killing and commiting crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its not my fault gang leaders decided to wear blue shirts and glasses!! Im being persecuted by a bunch of biggoted pigs!!
They should just put on their KKK masks and hail Hitler.
Let's put all the Muslims on separate aircraft!
If a terrorist blows themselves up they would only be killing other Muslims so who cares?
Oh yeah and we could also make all Muslims wear identifying symbols too!
But the safest way to keep us and themselves safe would be to have them live in separate Muslim Townships with strictly enforced curfews and controlled access and egress.
Hitler & Smuts had the right idea.
'Ginger Snaps' is my absolute favorite horror movie and I have seen it a million times since I bought the movie at Wal-Mart for $14.99. It is a movie done by our friends in the North (Canada) and they outdid themselves and that movie was better than any horror movie I have ever seen come out of Hollywood. The movie is absolutely suburb and even the sequel to it is just as good. I give Canada two thumbs up for this great movie!
So this morning, I felt like watching a movie so I popped in 'Ginger Snaps' into my DVD player. After the movie was finished, the movie gave me an idea with our Muslim enemies in the middle east. The movie is a werewolf movie (won't tell you much more as to not ruin it for those of you who have not seen it) and it got me thinking.
What if me made a warepig and unleashed it on the Muslims? Where the warepig would infect Muslims and turn them into warepigs that would go out and bite other Muslims and turn them into warepigs? It would be the perfect nightmare for Islamic idiots. They fear pigs and now they are going to have to fear tuning into a warepig. It would be the perfect pun (literal pun as well) since the middle east is really a pigsty. Muslims are pigs anyway, and now they will become warepigs! And then we could call the middle east for what it really is: The mental-beast!
Of course, we would design the warepig to only attack Muslims. What a nightmare these morons would live in. Here is a quote from the movie: "I get this ache... And I, I thought it was for sex, but it's to tear everything to fucking pieces."
Islam is the same as it wants to tear everything to fucking pieces! If they love to tear everything into fucking pieces, lets make them tear each other into fucking pieces by making them warepigs.
We could call this project: 'Operation Muslim Snaps'
I had never even heard of Ginger Snaps. But one day at Hollywood Video I came across the first one and decided to rent it.
These movies are excellent. I like it so well I went back and rented the rest of Ginger Snaps.
I think we should bring in a truck load of pigs and cows and let them loose. It would be fun just to watch their reactions. It would be better then Gilligans Island watching the Natives get all paranoid when someone brings in a Voodoo Doll :)
How about an amusement park of terror? An amusement park where we will not go on the rides, but we'll simply watch Muslims ride the rides, sort of like how we watch animals when we go to the Zoo.
We'll have a ferries wheel that dunks Muslims into a pool of pig blood and guts. They would go round and round and each time they go down, they get dunked! Of course, they would be tied up in the ride but man oh man, it would be great torture! We would call it the piggy wheel!
Then we could have the Log Flume. But instead of using a log, we'll stuff Muslims into dead pig carcasses and send them for a ride. But the new name for the ride would be the Hog Flume. LoLoL It would bring hours and hours of fun for the whole family to watch!
Then of course, with the Gravitron ride, we will stuff it with Muslims and pig guts, and spin them round and round. The ride would be called the Hogvitron!
And the house of mirrors would be the house of pigs. We just lock a bunch of Muslims with pigs and watch what they do. For them, it would be like a haunted house.
And lets not forget: What is an amusement park without any games??? Instead of having that game where you have to pop balloons with darts, we will have a game where we have to throw chopped up pig guts into Muslims mouths. What we'll do is make a wall with a bunch of holes in it where Muslims will be forced to stick their heads into. Then, we will make this device that keeps their mouths open. And then, we will throw pig guts into their mouths and win prizes. Hahahah!
It would be just like that one scene from 'The land of the dead' where they had that game where that Zombie was tied up, and people got to shoot him with a paintball gun.
The Islamic amusement park of terror would be so much fun!
Some guy made a tribute to the movie, using Rob Zombie's song "living dead girl" as the theme music and putting a bunch of clips together from the movie! It's totally cool! Here is the URL:
Besides the cartoon backlash, here is yet more Muslim stupidity:
After the Pope implies that Islam is a violent religion, Muslims went out and bomb churches!
ROFL!!!! They get mad that their religion is labeled violent, and they resort to violence when you point it out, proving that Islam is a violent and hateful religion! Time and time again, we learn that Islam is nothing but a backwards religion that breeds hate and violence.
It is no wonder that Israel bombs the fuck out of Muslims each time they get out of hand. Violence is the only language that Muslims understand and the only way to teach their countries a lesson is by bombing the fuck out of them.
I would love to see 'operation pig-drop' implemented in the Middle East. Each time Muslims start to act up, we go and drop pigs on their cities. And then we hit their water supply by dropping pigs into their water supplies and reservoirs. Their refusal to drink water that pigs have been rotting in will cause the deaths of untold millions of Muslims. It's a great and cheap idea to use Islamic paranoia and fear of pork, against them in order to kill the cancer of Islam, which will result in fewer terrorists.
I think if Muslims would stop all their overreacting about things, it would help.
I think any person could understand the Pope did not mean to offend. Muslims could just as well reacted differently. And even if the Pope intended to offend, it still would not justify burning of churches and other violence.
There is a difference between the way Muslims like to perceive themselves (as peaceful, loving, etc..) and they way they often act.
Actions speak louder then words. I mean if cartoons of the Mohammad are enough to get someone killed!!!!!!
These people are "nuts". You have no idea whats going to set them off next. Its like the crazy anti-social kid in your school who sits in a corner all by himself. Even if you try to talk to him or make friends with him, he gets pissed off about something and punches you in the nose.
Muslim scum should ask itself why isn't Buddhism for example, seen as a violent and hateful religion? Well let's see: how many Buddhist terrorists are there? How many Buddhist suicide bombers do you see? How many Buddhists hijack airplanes and slam them into buildings? How many Buddhists gun people down in the streets when someone is critical of their religion? You never see it.
Islam on the other hand, reacts in violence and hate anytime anyone even dares to suggest that Islam is not the one true religion. This morning in the News, I read that an Italian nun is dead after being shot in the back, along with a bodyguard and another hospital worker because of Islamic outrage. What a bunch of fucking maniacs.
So Islamic leaders around the world protest against any criticism of Islam or suggestion that it may not be the one true religion with violence, making me want to believe that it is a religion of peace? Well here is a thought for the Islamic world: Why don't the Islamic leaders around the world, condemn Islamic violence? When the nun got shot in the back, where were the Islamic leaders around the world to condemn that act of violence? They were no where to be seen!
If Islam wants to be seen as a peaceful religion, it's idiotic leaders need to step up to the plate and start condemning Islamic violence around the world instead of promoting it.
I mean the outrage over some silly cartoons!!! And then when a nun gets shot in the back of the head, the outrage from their leaders should have been 100 fold!!!!
Their leaders should be 100 times more vocal about violence, rather then some silly cartoons.
I mean if Muslims wonder why so many people have a negative attitude about them they should simply look at themselves. To cause a riot and kill people over cartoons and because of a statement by the Pope (and he was not even trying to offend and apologized afterwards)
is absurd.
Its true Ive seen even muslim women and children rioting, hell I even so a woman in a burqah pushing a pram and throwing stones!
They have no right to of course.
Who the hell do they think they are?
Other religions riot too of course but only Muslims riot as an ENTIRE religion!
I read the silly 29 Evidences For Macroevolution at Talk Origins.
I could have simply regurgitated it, but then I did a little checking and looked at the references.
Dawkins, Gould, Eldredge, and about 50 references all done, peer reviewed, and "researched" by evolutionists themselves!!:):)
29 Evidences For Macroevolution is worth about as much as the few pieces of blank paper needed to make a copy of it:)
Shall I find a "29 Evidences For Astrology" type of article? Im sure all the references would be from astrologers, peer reviewed by astrologers, and researched by astrologers:)
Its like Boss Hogg saying "here's 29 pieces of evidence this guy is guilty". Ya, that's nice until we get to the nitty gritty and find out all pieces of evidence came from his staff and supporters:)
Who else do you expect to review scientific material, other than scientists? Creationists?
Creationism is a joke with their creation science. There are no peer reviewers for creation science because it is not based on science to begin with. There is also no peer reviews done in the world of creation science because they put forth no data to analyze to begin with. The point of peer reviews is to analyze data, but when you have no data, there is nothing to analyze.
Creation scientists do not do any research; they do not get their hands dirty in digs because they would rather write articles about why evolution is wrong. They do not sit in laborites analyzing data. In fact, creation science does not even have a lab of its own.
This is why creation science is not taken seriously. It has no real structure and it does not do any research of its own.
You dont really expect anyone to take you seriously?:) I mean you look like something from The Dawn Of The Dead:)
Too much pepper on your pepper steak:)
What an arrogant prick. Scientists review what scientists do. Thats exactly my point! Boss Hog reviews what Boss Hogg does:)
Never said creationism was any better. Its a Scam just like evolution you moron. What makes you arrogant is that you place yourself on a platform, as though you are any better then a creationists. Your "peer review" and blah blah blah is self-serving and is no more valid, then Boss Hogg having one of his deputy sherifs "review" the evidence presented before the judge.
So unless you can add anything worthy of even moderate consideration, simply wipe off that stupid makeup idiot. Its not fuckin Halloween for Christ sake:)
It's a type of theory put out by creationists, who claim that evolution is like a boss-hog that suppresses creationism and does not allow creationism to be taught in a school. Well, all I have to do is look at who is claiming that there is a boss-hog. When I look at creationism, I find that their beliefs are not at all suppressed. They are free to write about creation science in books and websites. Their frustration draws in from the fact that it is not taken seriously by people whom actually do fieldwork and research. So, creationists scream that they are suppressed by a boss-hog figure.
Then, creationists complain that they are not allowed to publish their beliefs in scientific journals. This is yet, another lie. What research do creation scientists do? How can someone submit something for scientific evaluation when they do not do any research or fieldwork? Evolutionists are out there working in the real world, while creationists sit around and do nothing, so what are they going to hand into a scientific review? And yet, they resort to lying and claiming that evolution is like a boss-hog who reviews what boss-hog does.
When I look at this boss-hog theory and who propels it, I see that those screaming about evolution being a boss-hog are washed up fundamentalists who all kinds of bizarre claims, who do not do any work and then piss and moan, and then resort to making storied up in order to spin a boss-hog theory because they cannot stand their own failure.
That's one of the aspects in life: People love to blame others, and creationists love to create fictional-story lines (of a boss-Hog) to cover up the failure of creationism.
I dont doubt creationists are no better. But the problem is that there is no "police" or independent panels to monitor the alledged "research" done by evolutionists.
What I would like to see is some sort of governing body of impartial investigators who's job is to insure the research is done as printed in their publications. To be in the laboratories and verify their "findings" and "data" and that the work was actually done as reported. It would be difficult to have such a panel that everyone would agree upon (a mixture of evolutionists, non-evolutionists, etc..), but at least this would be a step in the right direction.
I mean these scientists are in their laboratories surrounded by their own supporters and graduate students (who want to impress their professors and get their degrees). The only other "peer review" is another group of evolutionists and their students and supporters.
I mean if evolutionists are so sure their data is valid and that they are not scamming, there should be no problem.
The only studies that would then be considered "authentic" and "valid" would be those that passed "inspection".
I totally agree!
All science, engineering, historical, mathematical and even legal research should be judged by panels of multi-disciplanary experts!!!
In fact why bother with these elitist professions anyway?
The work of scientists, historians, engineers and lawyers can be done better by informed panels of ordinary, well-educated people and rules and decisions made by popular vote!
Science is doing just fine policing itself, without creationists. A review panel for data already exists as material is reviewed by those doing the work. Much like when the construction of a building, is constantly reviewed and inspected by those involved in the construction industry. Having a creationist review panel is like having burger flippers from McDonalds, review and inspect that a building in being constructed properly.
Creationists by all means can create their own review panel for science. But these have already been done and the results are quite amusing. In a scientific review panel, material goes under great examination and debate, where as with a creationist review panel, they will attempt to discard facts with bible quotes of Jesus Christ being the sacrificed lamp of God who died for the sins of mankind.
A new subspecies of Piliocolobus was discovered in Namibia, how could this affect the evolution of chimps?
Creationist panel review: We did not come from monkeys for John 3:16 states: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. The bible does not say anything about God sending monkeys otherwise the bible would say this instead:
Gorilla 3:16: For the Gorilla so loved the jungle that he gave his one and only Banana, that whoever eats it shall not perish but have eternal life.
