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o/t i really need someone to talk to. please help

October 4 2005 at 4:40 PM
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  (Login nat_feldman)

on saturday evening i found out that my ex fiance si had comitted suicide. he took pills and was 23 years old. we started dating at the beginning of august and within a week (please don't stop listening now. we got engaged because we felt that we were the ones for each other). the time we had together was such a good time. i was so blissfully happy and he was too. we'd talk about marriage and children and moving in together. he had lost his job so we were looking for jobs for him and jobs for me when i moved down there. everything was perfect. as the time went on,i was working more and more so i was busy while on the other hand he had lots of time because he wasn't working. i felt like we were drifting apart. our converstaions weren't what they once were. when we spoke it felt like we were nothing more than friends. he started cutting his wrists and went to the hospital and when i told him on saturday that i had someone else,he couldn't take anymore. he told me over and over again that i was the one he was going to marry and have children with. he told me he wanted to grow old with me. he told me i was the better half of him,i made him whole,without me there is no reason to live. on saturday i told him that i had someone else and we were trying for a baby and he couldn't take anymore. for him to hear that his wife (as he called me but we weren't actually married although we were planning it) had another man and was planning on having a child with him was heartbreaking for him. si was the one who wanted to make me pregnant and marry me. he couldn't bear the thought of anyone else doing it. after i told him,the last thing he said to be was "no i'm not ok,f**k you". a few hours later i got a phone call from his sister telling me that he had comitted suicide and that he left a note and in it he talked all about me and how he couldn't bear me being with another guy". his family blame me so i'm not allowed to go to the viewing (i wanted to say my last goodbye like any other widow) and be with him for the last time and i'm not allowed to go to the funeral either. hearing that was like a stab in the back. i'm hurting so much. i'm feeling a mixture of sadness,isolation,anger,hurt,rejection,denial and guilt all rolled into one. i'm sorry that this is long but i just had to let my feelings out. i hope you guys will help me through this. i need all the help and support i can get

hugs nat

dude are you ok? and when are the fahitas gonna be ready?

 
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Re: o/t i really need someone to talk to. please help

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October 4 2005, 6:33 PM 

Nat i'm sorry for your loss. You've got to try not blame yourself, you could never have seen that happening and you have to follow your heart wherever it goes. Remember that although you are hurting now time is the greatest healer and you can make it through this. You don't have to go to someones funeral or grave to pay your respects as long as they are in your thoughts and your heart.

 
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October 5 2005, 10:54 AM 

Nat...
I allready talked to you on msn, and my parents even fell sorry for you..:'(
I don't know what to say now..
Lets just say that River&Joaquin&Corey will allways love you! And uhm..
If you get married, plz tell me..
Stay happy now Nat, even in this horrible times.
Love you

 
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October 5 2005, 11:36 AM 

Losing someone is horrible, when i lost my friend in May i didnt talk to any1 for days. I still havent said to any1 how i feel because, i cant show how i feel. It's a big burden to carry.
Stay on this board and read what people have to say, you need people round you at this very sad time.
Please understand that it aint your fault.
Please feel free talk to an1 on this bored because they are great people. Even though we never see i2i, we all stick together through hard times.

 
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October 5 2005, 4:54 PM 

Nat - I'm SO sorry to hear this news. You've been through so much these last few months, and I'm really sorry. You don't deserve this pain - no one does. But the others are right - this is in no way, shape or form YOUR fault!! Suicide is NEVER anyone else's fault. There are always tons of reasons behind someone taking their own life, and quite often we never know what these reasons are. But you did nothing wrong by moving on with your own life - that's what you were supposed to do after your relationship with him ended. He obviously had a lot of problems, and you didn't cause them. His family is very wrong to treat you the way they are, but it's human nature to want to be able to blame someone for a tragedy like this. They don't want to blame HIM, the only person they should - and you're an easy target because he very mistakenly placed blame on you himself instead of admitting to what was probably a myriad of problems that had him so depressed. It's a cowardly thing to do to take your own life and point the finger at someone else. You didn't kill him, Nat - he killed himself, plain and simple. I hope you and his family can learn to accept that. But as I said, the "blame game" gets in the way of healing in tragic deaths quite often. I lost a very dear friend (my cousin in fact) to suicide a little over two years ago. No one saw it coming and he left no note to give anyone the slightest clue as to WHY he was so depressed and desperate, so guess what? Those of us closest to him have not only been wondering WHY but also blaming ourselves for not being more available to him, being more of a friend, etc. I've found help in online suicide support groups in realizing I did nothing wrong and that there was probably nothing anyone could have done to stop his tragic death. It's been hard, and it still is. But you learn to cope. And until you learn to stop blaming yourself (no matter what ANYONE else thinks), you'll never even begin to heal from this. ICU was right in her post to you in another thread - support groups really are the best thing for you right now. Whether you attend one in person or participate in one online, it's a critical step in helping you cope with this. It's also something his family needs to do. You honestly might want to drop an anonymous card to them in the mail with info on both local suicide support groups where you live as well as some online groups. They need them badly, too, so they can learn to cope with this in a healthy manner as well as realize that YOU are not to blame. I know the last thing you probably want to do right now is something to help THEM when they're being so cruel to you, but understand that they're hurting terribly right now after losing a family member they've known and loved his whole life. They need guidance too. But at least help yourself. Check out a support group. Survivors of Suicide (http://www.survivorsofsuicide.com/) is a great one here in the US - I don't know what's available in England, but I'm sure something very beneficial is. This doesn't mean you can't talk to us about how you're feeling and get support and friendship here - it just means that this is really beyond the scope of anything anyone here can truly help you with ENOUGH because we're just ordinary folks, not professionals. We care, but you need something in addition to us - not instead of, mind you. Please follow through with this - you may not realize it, but you really do need it. Take it from another person who's lost someone dear to suicide, ok? Take care of yourself, Nat - please.

{{{{Nat}}}}

 
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October 5 2005, 7:12 PM 

i don't do sensitive very well babe, so please bear with me.

this was not about you, his problems were down to him. i can understand that you may feel bad because you were the "last" person he dealt with before he died but, from what i gather from the situation, he was on self destruct for a long time. if it wasn't you it would have been someone else. i am sure that if you knew what was going to happen you would have done everything in your power to stop it. but you didn't know.

people move on from situations. my relationship with my ex was not very healthy but i would not shut him out of my life, and considering the way you feel now i'm sure you wouldn't have. my ex came with a history of problems and we haven't spoken in 2 years, but even now if i knew he was going to do something like this i would sell my soul to help him. you did all you could do for him, and i am sure he knows that. the truth is you are not the same person you were when you were together, time passes, people grow. you can't spend your life being someones safety blanket. keep your head up here, you have as much right to mourn as everyone else, and you have NOTHING to be ashamed of.

 
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A concerned man of faith
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I really need someone to talk to

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October 5 2005, 10:52 PM 

Man, what a heavy load to be given. Especially out of no where.

I can't imagine what something like that could be like. But remember one thing that things come into our lives we don't expect, but things do come to pass. What I mean is this awful thing came into your life, but day by day it won't be as recent as it is now. And it will pass. I'm hoping for you it will pass soon.

 
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October 6 2005, 7:28 AM 

"...but day by day it won't be as recent as it is now. And it will pass. I'm hoping for you it will pass soon."

Amen.


 
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October 6 2005, 1:55 PM 

I'm so sorry, how long had you been split up ?

Very very sad

 
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