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River's overdose

August 13 2006 at 8:01 AM
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phoenixville  (Login phoenixville)

A lot of the comment's on this forum from certain people(not naming who)have specified that river was a junkie or drug addict he 'chose the lifestyle,so he chose to die'etc etc
but how do you know that?

What if his drink had been spiked????????

 
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August 13 2006, 9:04 AM 

The autopsy report explains it all..and according to the report there wasn't any traces of alcohol in his system that night so therefor his drink could not of been spiked. What he ingested that night was ingested by him alone and not "slipped" into anything.

 
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August 13 2006, 11:37 AM 

In addition, River himself (I saw on a documentary or something) admitted to using drugs. See, it's people like you that only validates Jiggy's (and mine) stance on why things need to be repeated in regards to his death. This shows that not everyone accepts the fact that Rio was a drug user. I've seen a lot of people getting upset with Jiggy's comments saying things like "we all know..." and this only proves his point. Clearly we don't "all know".

 
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August 13 2006, 12:14 PM 

LOL! thankyou so much phoenixville- how appropriate- errrg! okay ekoostik, one-nil to you

 
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ekoostik
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August 13 2006, 1:24 PM 

One-nil to me? Sorry don't get it.

 
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August 13 2006, 4:05 PM 

lol! just ment i was one of the "we all know..." people and this post shot my opinion on that out of the water! oh well!

 
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August 13 2006, 3:26 PM 

Your right ekoostik not everyone know's,I guess I just don't want to accept the fact that he willingly took them, such a sweet young man with so much ahead of him and to think he gambled with his life like that, it seem's so unreal.

And no I hav'nt seen the death certificate,I can't bear to look at it.(I will probably cry)


 
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August 13 2006, 3:32 PM 

......I meant Autopsy Report not Death Certificate.

 
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August 13 2006, 6:43 PM 

right so let me get this clear...
you want to raise the question as to whether or not his drink was spiked, but you cannot bring yourself to read the autopsy report.

here is a tip: if you are going to discuss a half-assed conspiracy theory, at the very least educate yourself with the facts.

 
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August 14 2006, 2:49 AM 

Oh bitchy bitchy now are we......for a start you know what you can do with your "tip" shove it up your ass!!!

If you believe everything you read on the net your as stupid and narrow minded as they come.
How do you know the autopsy report is authentic? Was you there yourself in person? Where did you read this information?,don't tell me let me guess 'findadeath'(laugh's hysterically)

With all the stories and so called account's leading up to his death are mainly BULLSHIT.

you strike me as the sort of person that will read a story straight off and believe everything it
say's........very gullible!


"Anyone can FAKE an autopsy report AND death certificate,you know."

 
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August 14 2006, 2:54 AM 

Ha ha ha ha.........yeah you tell em phoenixville.

 
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August 14 2006, 4:13 AM 

God, some of you really need to wake up and smell the coffee !!! River was an addict, he took drugs, he wasn't Saint River.

As you (maybe ) know, he was very close friends with the RHCP and was hanging out with them the months prior to his death and the night he died. I recommend that you read the book Scar Tissue by Anthony Kiedes of the RHCP and you will see the severity of their drug addictions and their daily drug intake. Now i know you cant tar everyone with the same brush but if River was so sweet and innocent, he would have run a mile from that kind of scene.

 
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August 14 2006, 7:22 AM 

nicola i agree people should be more aware that rivers drug problems were more severe than they would like to believe but i dont think its fair to compare rivers problems to the squalour and torture john frusciante and anthony kiedis went through (obviously river died but that only shows how intolerent he was compared to them)

John frusciante was an almost recluse- turning up fucked to gigs and on the verge of being dropped by the band, anthony's problems were almost equally as bad, i believe he said "river liked his coke"? thats bad, but i happen to think shooting heoin into your veins every few hours is worse. the reason River never "ran a mile from that scene" was because he connected to the members of the band (especially john and flea) on a spiritual level, through music and "cosmic" ideas, as i believe they put it!
He even paid for John to go into rehab and drove him there himself- for all the good it did him!


 
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August 14 2006, 8:00 AM 

""How do you know the autopsy report is authentic?""

That information about him not having any alcohol in his system and what they did find was also in many magazines and plenty of news coverage and you can purchase actual documents at

http://www.celebritycollectables.com/cgi-bin/ezshopper/loadpage.cgi?user_id=id&file=directory.htm

if you want the exact page on that site where River's info is listed it's..

http://www.celebritycollectables.com/cgi-bin/ezshopper/loadpage.cgi?user_id=84054&file=autopsy.htm#phoenix

it also has documents regarding his estate..i myself have not purchased any of those documents but there they are.


 
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August 14 2006, 8:30 AM 

"Oh bitchy bitchy now are we......for a start you know what you can do with your "tip" shove it up your ass!!!"

Nice come back, Phoenixville! And well argued too I might add. (I'm being sarcastic here).

There is no call for this kind of talk. If you can't make an intelligent argument for your point of view then don't post.


 
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August 14 2006, 9:11 AM 

I 100% agree about shooting up heroin being so much worse than coke, totally.

However, what we've got to remember is that River took heroin too, maybe he didnt inject it but it was in his system when he died. I also agree that he may not as been a heavy user as Anthony and co because to be honest,i am stunned that he is still alive. However, even addicts can OD on heroin ( Kurt ) its all about your tolerance level i guess.

It's just obvious that he was a heavy drug user and people should admit that and accept the truth, it doesnt make him a bad person. I take it you have read Scar Tissue ? If you have you will probably have noticed that it is one of the most honest books you've read, i mean he got as low as you can and gave you all the horrible facts about being an addict, did you read even just once in that book that River begged him or even advised him to get help ? Nope. And it's very strange how the only part of the book that he doesnt go into detail is Rivers death for fear of upsetting his family.

I just wish River's fans in denial admit the truth and accept that he was an addict. No-one can be that stupid to take that amount of drugs if they are an occasional and recreational drug user.

 
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August 14 2006, 1:43 PM 

yeah i have- i loved his candid way of explaining everything, i am also suprised he didnt die long ago! and john frusciante- i guess things are just ment to be. From what i know, river did not have a huge relationship with anthony- i mean he wasnt half as close as he was to flea and john, so maybe he didnt feel it was his place to offer help like he did with john? plus the fact John was the same age as river and had been using properly for only a couple of years, anthony being 8-10 years older and already a heroin addict of 5-6 years , river may have felt a little out of his depth and out of order. the family thing i think just comes from everyone knowing that they dont like to speak of it so maybe its more out of respect than fear that he doesnt talk, plus anthony is good friends with rain.

 
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August 14 2006, 9:30 AM 

Was the post meant for you clown head?.......mind your own business.

 
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August 14 2006, 10:25 AM 

Clownhead ? Wow, you really are witty aren't you ???

Or maybe not...........

And yes the post i am replying to is rikki's so it was meant for me.

So, do you still believe Rivers drink may have been spiked ??? What age ar you ? 12 ???

 
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August 14 2006, 10:46 AM 

Nicola if you had read the thread properly I think you would find the comment from phoenixville was for ekoostik not you.

 
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Nicola
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August 14 2006, 12:08 PM 

Oh well, smack my wrists and i'll hang my head in shame !!!

 
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August 14 2006, 7:19 PM 

"Was the post meant for you clown head?.......mind your own business"

Hmmm. Clown head? I've been called a lot of things but this is a first I must say. But then again I don't often meet people of your obviously high intellect.

 
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August 19 2006, 12:55 AM 

WOW

Can such a brain as yours read Orgeanbelle?

 
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OREGONBELLE
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TO OREGONBELLEIS NUT'S...............

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August 19 2006, 6:16 AM 

Well obviously you hav'nt got a brain as you can't spell properly can you?

 
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August 19 2006, 7:14 AM 

That isn't really fair to be so hostile to another person who is posting. Leave the lady alone.

 
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August 20 2006, 11:36 AM 

what the ^%£"*(^@: is this

 
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August 20 2006, 11:10 PM 

I WISH Y'ALL JUST TOOK A TIME TO UNDERSTAND ME

NICOLA,ANA, AND THE OTHERS YOU NEVER

GAME ME A CHANCE.

AHHHHHH

AT LEAST YOU BURY YOUR HEADS IN THE AIR.

YOU SHOUD NOT JUDGE ME LIKE YOU DO. I MYSELF JUDGE NO ONE

ELSE LIKE I HAVE BEEN JUGED SO JUST SHUT UP EVERY ONE

I DON'T GIVE A FLYING SQUIRREL WHAT ANY ONE THINKS ABOUT ME.

 
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September 4 2006, 7:51 AM 

hes n idiot for taking the drugs. i mean i dont think hes a scag bt maybe he shud of got out the spot like like he father told him to. he shud of listened bt he chose the fast life.the rocky road of drugs.n lets not pretend he didnt know the harm they cud do.its a shame i feel that on the site people are praisin him for the one thing that led him to his death.fame.
god help rivers loved one so find comfort in his l;ife wasted by a cheap tablet which get u on a high

 
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September 4 2006, 7:59 AM 

Uh sorry to tell you ann-mary...it wasnt a tablet that got him high!!

 
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September 6 2006, 6:05 PM 

River didn't have it as easy as people think. He was in a religous cult from an early age and was apparently forced to lose his virginity at age four, which he admitted too. He was messed up because of his troubles in this area. I'm not saying that drugs were the answer, but he was agreat person who treated every with equality so lets show him some respect.

 
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September 8 2006, 3:51 PM 

Just wanna add that i found out River later said that he only stated losing his virginity so young as a joke. I'm sure what is true and what isn't. But I just wanted to post this.

 
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