I saw an interview a few years back with river and it said he would rather quit while he was ahead and not to outstay his welcome(so did that mean as an actor or something more than that?)
I would not be surprised if river wanted to kill himself ,maybe he overdosed intensionally and just waited til he turned 23 as he had a strange phobia about that number or age anyway.
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First, did he kill himself? No way! He was a kind, loving, compassionate man whom I believe would never intentionally inflict that kind of pain onto his loved ones. Second, why do people simply refuse to believe he was a drug addict? This always astounds me when people try to make something more out of the situation than it was. He was an addict who either took too much, combined too much, or both and died. It's as simple as that.
Of course he was referring to acting with that statement. I've heard many, many actors say the exact thing in reference to their career.
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River had so much to live for and there is no way he would have contemplated those thought's!.....his career was on the up ,he was in love with samantha and he also had a terrific band ,does'nt sound like the making's of a troubled mind does it?........yes he did have his problem's but not to the extreme where he would take his own life!
It was just a tragic accident that's all.
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I KNOW he was an addict for gods sake,all I wanted to point out is what he had said and he didnt look or sound the full shilling either when he was interviewed.
To me taking drugs is like playing russian roulette with your life,you might as well call it a suicide because thats how I would look at it,if you want to die then take drugs on a regular basis
or if your lucky you might just die after doing it once.
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Hello all. I just need to make this point for those who think taking drugs is the equivalant to suicide. I agree with the point that taking drugs is like playing russian roulette. You never know. BUT I must point out that there are many many drug addicts who do not overdose. My uncle has been a junkie since his early teens, he's pushing seventy now! Just wanted to make that point.
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i agree ekoo, doing drugs does not spell suicide, i too know someone who has been a drug addict for many years and they are quite happy living that way so...
different strokes for different folks!
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no i have to agree with everyone eles here i do NOT believe river committed suicide at all .
we all know what drugs were in his body when he died cocaine makes your heart race heroine slows it down so quite simply his heart failed thats it he as just silly enough to mix the two together .
i also don.t understand why people can.t just accept the fact he was a drug addict and have to ask silly questions such as this .
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I can remember growing and some people around me expressing that those who smoke may have a death wish. I don't really agree with that, but I guess its possible. Perhaps persons who try crazy things like Eval Knieval did during his career may love adrenaline and excitement, but I doubt if many like those have a death wish.
A lot of times it is a younger person who experiments with different behavior, experiments with what kind of person they want to be, what kind of roles they want/have to play around different people, and tries a lot of things out to decide what to do with one's life.
One person I worked with claimed most people including himself start taking drugs because they no longer care. The person I'm writing about had to face his parent's divorce, and it broke him down to where he tried many kinds of drugs because he was so unhappy. Sadness and troubles can cause people to do a lot of things they wouldn't normally do if it lasts a long time I suppose. Or if a person believes there is no way out of their trouble they might do dangerous things.
Any way its good to come back here to visit. And its great to read your blogs, and right now I'm saying hi to Rikki whom I've always enjoyed on this site.
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From what I've read River was going through such a dark time in his life in some ways. I mean his addiction had got a hold of him, and he couldn't put it down. He had hopes. And dreams of being a musician and probably recording artist still. He was looking at that as perhaps even another way of expressing his view points that could help people. And in that way he had a lot of hopes in that direction.
But there had a kind of change of being optamistic as he once was. He had fell into at least one serious trap with the illegal drugs. Which definitely change any one's attitude toward life. If one is trapped by illegal drugs, and what it does to one's brain. Mixing chemicals with the chemicals in a mine that wasn't made to be there is introduced into one's brain's chemicals! Not good. Not easy. Mean trap.
Just for one example: seeing some pictures of people who are on meth for just a few years ago those people's looks twenty years older at least. Where a person was good/pleasent looking they are turned into someone who looks horrific in the worse case or else one who looks like someone still alive from the civil war.
bee dah bee dah bee that's all folks.
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I don't know if this has anything to do with the suicide theory, but as part of the Hollywood scene, I've been hearing a lot lately about a boy who is (might be?) Rio's son, born on OCT 29, 1993. Apparently the mother (a writer?) wanted him to leave Hollywood (and all the drugs) and he couldn't/wouldn't because he had contracts to fulfill. When the boy was born the mother told Rio he would never see him and she held some personal things over his head. The director of the film he was working on said Rio was not himself. That night (OCT 30) he went to the club and died. Think there's anything to this? There's a lot of talk that the boy is seeking a relationship with the family now that he is what... 14? The mother is said to have cancer and not doing well. Of course, who knows if any of this is true, but the kid looks so much like Rio, it's eerie. Also, neither the mother or the kid have never asked for money or anything and the kid wants DNA from the sisters and/or brother.
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Pass the pics then, if he looks 'so much like rio'.
River 'has a daughter' too rolls eyes
some mad woman contacted the press just after he died to say she'd had his baby in 1990, she was sent away for 'the good of his career', he never got over not being able to see his daughter and so became a junkie.
so did he kill himself for his daughter or his son? you decide
hell, maybe he's got a whole clan out there? It is, after all, such a common place thing to be breeding like a rabbit at 22 years old with so much time on your hands, i mean, its not like he was ever working or anything. lol.
I suspect, nothing more than a couple of mad fans jumping on the 'lets make money off a famous dead guy' wagon. Happens all the time.
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I never heard anything about a daughter. In the case the boy, though, it's said that neither he nor the mpother ever asked for money (I think the mother is successful in her own field). I'm sure a lot of people have made such claims. Sadly. As if his death wasn't tragic enough, to have the family wonder if there is a child - girl or boy - out there that just might belong to Rio. I certainly haven't rolled my eyes at ***this*** situation. I'd say if the boy or his mother wanted anything, they 1) would have gone public and 2)would have wanted money. As for pictures. I said I saw them. I didn't say I had them. The boy looks just like him. I feel bad for the kid - if this indeed was his father. It's all very simple. The boy has requested DNA from any of the family members and in fact DNA could offer some evidence if the boy were NOT Rio's kid. The family has declined. It seems the boy will have to seek a court order. But get this: he doesn't want to be the center of a media freenzy.
I feel bad for the family, if indeed there are a bunch of people out there claiming to be this man's child. In this case, why not just do the DNA.
I work all the time and I still have time for sex. Were you implying he didn't have time for sex??? LOL.
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"I'd say if the boy or his mother wanted anything, they 1) would have gone public"
so, what? do you know these people or something? how can you know there is such a boy and family, know details such as he 'doesnt want a media frenzy' and have seen pictures of him if the family havent gone anywhere public about it?
If its some person you've encountered on the internet, id say yeah; it is another case of attention-seeking fan. Im not saying that River didnt have time to have sex, in fact, its been reported many a time that he cheated on his girlfriends and being so eco-concious im not sure latex contoception would have been top of his list. What im saying is- if these people claiming to have had his children have indeed contacted the Phoenix family (or in 'the daughters' case, been well known within the Phoenix family, supposedly) I find it extremely hard to beileve the family would not wish to cling on to any little part of River that was left i.e his child. They would have nothing to gain all these years later by ignoring someone claiming to be his child, they would however, most definately loose out if any such claim was truthful. I dont see them denying any serious party a DNA test. Unless, of course, the particular party seems to be mentally un-hinged (like in the case of 'the daughters' mother, who has posters of river on her walls and joins fan forums to spread her story)
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You know; if I remember right; there was a difference of opinion a long time ago about taking illegal drugs being the same as suicide. And the grooviest monkey was in on that discussion way back yonder in the past.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion. Its just that it seems so much like deja vu. Those were the "good ol' days".....or were they?
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well i know from experience that it well could have been a suicide attempt...even though i really think he didn't try to kill himself....when you are stuck in an addiction like I was in or river phoenix...you don't know who you are anymore...you hurt people you really never wanted to hurt...to make choices that could take your life and others to feed your habit..and it really doesn't matter how much you have goin for you...when you are in an addiction crazy thoughts cross your mind...like where can i get my next bag of dope or where can i get the money or how can i stop this manic circle I"m goin through...and in the moment many consider suicide as there ONLY way out..I've considered it, attempted it and I know people who have succeeded and it's a fuckin wake up call when you watch your friend shoot themselves or jumpin front of a train or overdose purposely because they are tired of hurting themselves inside and out and others, they're tired of the way they live...noone grows saying mom I want to get hight and live on the streets and become a junkie.. but it's life and some really sad shit happens and they have to realize noone can help them unless they choose to help themselves... I HAD TO LEARN THE HARD WAY....6 OVERDOSES LATER 3 YEARS OF BEIN INSTUTIONALIZED WITNESSING 3 DEATHS AND I'M STILL STANDING....AND STILL TILL THIS VERY MOMENT, PREGNANT AND ALL I QUESTION MYSELF ON IF I CAN DO THIS AND NOT GET HIGH ANYMORE OR SHOULD I JUST END IT AND SAVE MY CHILD THE PAIN... I TAKE IT ONE MINUTE AT A TIME AND FOR ME THAT KINDA WORKS RIGHT NOW AND TALKING TO YOU GUYS...THATNKS FOR LISTENIN...
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Never, never give up. You can be a child of God again. Its not too late. Believe me I know.
I know something of what you're going through althogh its not exactly the same as where I've been. Let me explain a little. When I was 23 I went through such terrible depression for such a long time for a whole year. It soon turned into a suicidal depression which was tough; believe me. Twice I tried to kill myself in a fit of losing all hope during that time.
Through the hand of a living God I am now 50-years-old, fat and sassy. Now I've got two kids and my marriage is doing fine. He has helped me every time great darkness has tried to shut out all light. When I was little I was so scared of the darkness with no lights on. As soon as a light was turned on then the darkness had to go. And the fear of being in the dark would leave then too.
Its the same for us in this life when we're older. Jesus is the light in this dark world. A world filled up with pain, trouble, problems, and great darkness from ol' Satan. It seems like a lost and dying world. But there is hope and faith that is available. When it may seem so bad at least while following Jesus I've had someone to talk with, who is with me every day, and on whom I rely on when I'm weak. Its all right if even my faith seems small at times because I know of a Big God.
I am sure if other people could sense the Holy Spirit even one time they'd run not walk to get to know Him.
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River would never kill himself yah he had an overdose but he never tried to kill himself i mean come on he maybe had some ups and downs with his carrer and and his life but suiside noop he aint stupid he is a really smart person really i new river thats just not him
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