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Freshman Sire Contest Standings

June 20 2012 at 4:52 PM

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Heather is fast out of the gate with Joly B right on her heels. Heather's stablemate Dell has made his usual bright start while Jason (Invasor) Baker has broken better than he did last year. Long way to go though.

Antifreezette Up In Class 44,351
JolyB Up In Class 43,796
Badactor Up In Class 40,616
JBaker826 Up In Class 31,634
hhooper Up In Class 31,369
Cherokee Scot Up In Class 31,144
tims70ar Up In Class 27,798
nickvito Up In Class 26,861
Who Doctor Who Up In Class 22,312
Large Mac Up In Class 21,711
jman667 Up In Class 19,825
funkymonkey Up In Class 18,731
cruzan200246 Up In Class 14,707
elkurzhal Up In Class 11,525
magicwalnut Up In Class 9,929



 
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chazaward69
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Re: Freshman Sire Contest Standings

June 20 2012, 5:03 PM 

Did I do something wrong also??

chazaward69 -- Overall Stallion Barn
Stallion Barn earnings:
As of: June 19, 2012 @ 10:48 PM
$56,741
Rank: 778
Group 1 Curlin $4,000
Big Brown N/A
Group 2 Tiz Wonderful 12,404
Street Hero 36,030
Group 3 Nobiz Like Shobiz 3,437
Showing Up 870

chazaward69 -- June Stallion Barn
Stallion Barn earnings:
As of: June 19, 2012 @ 10:48 PM
$37,057
Rank: 316
Group 1 Curlin $4,000
Big Brown N/A
Group 2 Tiz Wonderful 11,670
Street Hero 19,830
Group 3 Nobiz Like Shobiz 687
Showing Up 870


Chaz

 
 


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Re: Freshman Sire Contest Standings

June 20 2012, 9:41 PM 

Chaz you did not put UpinClass as the group . Not to worry as now I know you are in I will include you.. I believe there might be a few others in this category also. BTW the overall scoring by TT is totally screwed up . The competition didn't start until june 1 but it appears that entrants have been credited with May earnings.

 
 


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Re: Freshman Sire Contest Standings

June 21 2012, 12:18 AM 

Bev, since the ultimate goal in this thing is to name the freshman who tops the list at the end of the year, it seems to me that they would have to include progeny earnings accrued before the entry deadline of May 31st. 2yos did start racing as early as the last half of April. While the money they earn in those early races from 2 to 4-1/2 furlongs isn't particularly significant, in a tight race in late December, it can still mean something. Also, scoring the contest after 7 months trying to eliminate earnings accrued before the contest deadline just isn't practical.

I'm probably speaking out of line here, so forgive me. I opted not to get involved with this thing this year. I'm just thinking that inclusion of progeny earnings accrued prior to the official start date of the contest is reasonable and practical.

Carry On! wink.gif

 
 

Cherokee Scot
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You're correct Pas - New overall standings

June 21 2012, 9:06 AM 

Does not seem fair to me but if you put in your entry on May 31 you got all the earnings that your horses had already earned in May. Here are the correct overall standings. I have added those UIC members whose names I recognize but did not have the Up In Class affiliation in their entry . If there is anyone I have missed out please let me know.

139 Who Doctor Who Up In Class 200,570
216 Badactor Up In Class 175,191
261 Large Mac Up In Class 164,169
309 tims70ar Up In Class 155,182
326 elkurzhal Up In Class 152,068
336 bpiets member 149,719
393 JBaker826 Up In Class 137,202
418 ndsc32 - 132,969
470 Cherokee Scot Up In Class 122,401
551 jman667 Up In Class 107,810
581 hhooper Up In Class 101,255
609 JolyB Up In Class 96,857
616 funkymonkey Up In Class 96,006
703 magicwalnut Up In Class 78,626
723 ryonker - 73,897
763 Antifreezette Up In Class 64,258
764 nickvito Up In Class 63,489
776 chazaward69 - 58,465
825 cruzan200246 Up In Class 23,383


 
 


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Re: Freshman Sire Contest Standings

June 22 2012, 2:27 AM 

Bev, I completely understand your "fairness" position, but let's face it. Anybody who selects their stallion roster in this contest based on earnings already accumulated by babies making their debuts in 2 to 4-1/2 furlong races, which is all we have until toward the end of May, don't really have an advantage, and they may be shooting themselves in the foot thinking that they do. This contest doesn't end until the last 2yo runs on 12/31. A baby running once, or maybe twice, in the first 6 weeks or so of a 2yo season that spans about 8-1/2 months, isn't likely to have much of an impact on his or her daddy's standings on the Freshman Sire List at the end of the year. This day and age, 2yos that earn real money don't make their debuts in April/May.

Add to that the scoring headache of trying to eliminate any earnings accrued before the contest deadline.....I just think they're doing the right thing, practically if nothing else.

 
 


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Re: Freshman Sire Contest Standings

June 22 2012, 9:09 AM 

Paseana, that's what I originally thought but the guy who is in the overall lead accumulated $215,000 in May while our backmarker Cruzam only got $7,000. That's quite a gap to make up.


    
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Re: Freshman Sire Contest Standings

June 22 2012, 8:30 PM 

Agreed, Bev. That IS surprising to me as well. I can't imagine how he could have collected that much in May without having checked the freshman sire list on 5/31 and picked his roster accordingly. While anybody could have done the same thing, it's still unfair because it wasn't made clear at the outset that earnings prior to the contest deadline were going to count, so not everybody was aware of it. You're right, it does seem unfair.

I guess the only remedy in the future is to move the entry deadline up to April 30th instead. I still think it's just not practical to score the contest throughout the year trying to exclude pre-deadline earnings.

But something needs to be done to address this problem, that's for sure.

 
 


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Badactor makes "magna" move to "graduate" top in UpinClass

June 24 2012, 10:14 AM 

79 Badactor Up In Class 283,172
162 JBaker826 Up In Class 242,890
167 Who Doctor Who Up In Class 242,124
207 Large Mac Up In Class 232,499
282 JolyB Up In Class 211,262
352 Cherokee Scot Up In Class 198,335
397 bpiets member 189,321
460 hhooper Up In Class 176,067
509 nickvito Up In Class 165,077
543 tims70ar Up In Class 157,484
555 ndsc32 - 156,091
570 elkurzhal Up In Class 152,418
601 jman667 Up In Class 144,842
665 funkymonkey Up In Class 130,386
721 Antifreezette Up In Class 112,629
728 ryonker - 108,627
756 chazaward69 - 93,195
787 magicwalnut Up In Class 82,050
828 cruzan200246 Up In Class 25,348



    
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