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Eclipse Awards

January 17 2011 at 12:20 PM

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After a month of beautiful weather here in South Florida , on the day of the Eclipse Awards it is raining and we have a tornado warning until 7 pm. I better nail down my kilt this evening !


    
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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 17 2011, 12:56 PM 

Now that's just too funny, Bev! The picture is priceless!

I needed that this morning! Thanks! happy.gif

 
 


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ZENYATTA - 2010 HORSE OF THE YEAR

January 17 2011, 10:02 PM 

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 17 2011, 10:14 PM 

Leave it to Bev! Hope you enjoyed!!

Happy for the fans of big Z... And this not from a hater by any means, good for the horse and her fans, bad for racing if HOY can be won with that schedule.

 
 


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January 17 2011, 10:18 PM 

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The Party Begins

January 17 2011, 10:28 PM 

Kent Desormeaux trying to peek under kilt.
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January 17 2011, 10:43 PM 

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 17 2011, 11:07 PM 

Happy for the horse, her connections, and her fans. However, you may as well change the name of the award to Best in Show as opposed to Horse of the Year after giving her the trophy over Blame. You just can't compare their bodies of work imo. Horse Racing - The logic of illogic.

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Madame Christophe Clement

January 17 2011, 11:25 PM 

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Freddie Lencloud

January 17 2011, 11:27 PM 

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 12:45 AM 

A couple of quotes from this thread.......

"bad for racing if HOY can be won with that schedule."

..."you may as well change the name of the award to Best in Show as opposed to Horse of the Year after giving her the trophy over Blame."


You know what you guys? This isn't the demise of the Eclipse Awards. Zenyatta's triumph tonight doesn't mean anything for the Eclipse Award in the long term going forward.

The fact is that she is a horse that we've never seen before and probably will never see again. Forget the historical ranking stuff...is she better than Kelso, 'Bid, Ruffian, or Seattle Slew...of course she's not, and her zealous fans that think she is seriously need to get a grip!

The fact is that she has touched fans of this sport like no other since John Henry, and he was a grouchy old guy that barely tolerated the adulation. She was totally the opposite.

I guess what I'm saying is that the HOTY Eclipse Award is just fine, thank you very much. A Zenyatta will come along again maybe never, and her winning that award is as it should be. Next year, and all the years to come, the HOTY vote won't have to deal with a mare like Zenyatta.

By the way folks...if I had a vote that counted, I would have voted for Blame.

 
 


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Forest Boyce - Apprentice of year - nominated

January 18 2011, 1:07 AM 

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Kent

January 18 2011, 1:08 AM 

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January 18 2011, 7:15 AM 

come on pas--"a horse like we have never seen before and likely will never see again"?????
The one time that I actually watched Z race, she was beaten.
Though I fully expect the record to be modified to actually make her the winner of last year's BC Classic and re-establish her undefeated record.

No such award for PERSONAL ENSIGN?
Didn't she retire undefeated also?

So--4 life or death wins over west coast 3rd-stringers and a loss in her biggest race of the year is enough to overcome the actual winning accomplishments of BLAME and GOLDIKOVA?

So--the writers have spoken!

A wonderful racehorse though.
She was obviously more than special.
Really doesn't matter my way though it just doesn't seem right.


 
 
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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 8:40 AM 

Silly award but that vote had to be rigged.

Anyone voting Zenyatta over Blame based on the 2010 campaigns and the result when the two raced head to head should be ashamed of themselves.

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 8:49 AM 

I'm guessing more than a few voters saw this as a "make-up award." I feel sorry for the connections of Blame but Zenyatta has one HOY award which is the right number, it just has the wrong year on the trophy.

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 8:55 AM 

After party...
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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 8:58 AM 

Forest Boyce looks very uncomfortable.

Who is this maniac in the skirt with his arm around me.Get me out of here please!!!




 
 


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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 9:41 AM 

I'm obviously glad she won, but as I've said before it's a popularity contest and really doesn't matter. The fact that a large majority of the voters come from east of the Mississippi does say something about the reach of this great animal, though. She was the best last year and didn't get it. I was surprised she won this year, but she did. So it goes. She won because she got more people involved in racing than any horse since Secretariat, apart from her great record. Walk down the street and ask some strangers who Blame is. They won't know. That's the difference.

Again, if you don't want a popularity contest, don't leave it to a vote. Set up objective criteria--most G1 wins, most money won, most G1 winner beaten, BC Champ, whatever spider thinks, whatever. As it is, it will remain like the MVP in baseball--subjective and open to debate, whoever wins.

But Zenyatta won, didn't she ? happy.gif

 
 

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 10:02 AM 

Forest is our new stable jockey. I might be a sap but I twigged straight away that she was a great jockey in the making . We needed to branch out and having a Maryland based jockey will turn over a new leaf for us.

 
 
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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 12:07 PM 

Bev

No knock on your choice of stable jock or her riding ability.Didn't even know you had a professional relationship with her.

She just has that look on her face like she'd rather be anywhere than here in the pic.Contrasted with Kent who looks like he's happy as a pig in slop.

Good luck with the stable in 2011.Any of your 3yo's look promising?


 
 

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January 18 2011, 1:54 PM 

Hey Big ,

I looked at photo again and you're absolutely right !

She is a lovely girl with a smashing personality - almost as nice as Mrs Hendry happy.gif


Nothing promising at the moment. Might look for a bargain at the sales.

Cheers

Bev



 
 
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Well, in 2010...

January 18 2011, 2:26 PM 

...the most viewed film was 'Toy Story 3'. More people went to, and spent their money on, this movie than any other last year.

Popular yes, but something tells me it won't be winning the 'Best Picture' Oscar.

 
 

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January 18 2011, 2:27 PM 

I couldn't agree more with Mike's point. Zenyatta was awesome throughout her entire career. She did it at 3, 4, 5, and 6, a superb achievement in this era of racing. Unfortunately every year she raced there was one horse that one-upped her. Curlin in 07/08, Rachel Alexandra in 09, and the one horse who beat her, Blame in 2010. The best older horse of the year was Blame, there's no debating it, it's fact of the matter. He beat her on the biggest stage of the year in the race Zenyatta had been pointing to since December 2009.

Zenyatta received the HOY award not because she was the best horse THIS YEAR, but because of her career resume. Hmmph. Bogus.

 
 

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 2:56 PM 

A better analogy, Mr. DeNiro, might be the Golden Globes. Social Network v Kings Speech. Which was the better movie? Which took home the hardware? That's what happens when you put it to a vote. Popularity contest. (btw, DeNiro was awesome at the Golden Globes).

 
 

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 3:28 PM 

I believe this award came down to writer's thoughts versus their emotions. Their emotions won out. Zenyatta made them feel a lot. Blame gave them a lot to think about.

 
 


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Zenyatta's Favorite Movie

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Blame's Favorite Movie

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 6:06 PM 

I'd recognize dean Wormer anywhere!...Yo Bev...lookin' at the one photo, I have to ask...you disco?

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 18 2011, 9:38 PM 

Those clips are perfect, Spank. Well done!

 
 

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Re: Eclipse Awards

January 19 2011, 4:55 PM 

Not trying to be a smart arse or start a meaningless crossfire but a friend of mine emailed a question I hadn't thought of on the subject of HOY...when I consider he's a huge Z fan (and Mike Smith at one time rode for he and his Dad)..I took it as friendly sarcasm...but...what about Rachel? Didn't we debate this like...forever?...lol

 
 


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January 20 2011, 1:18 AM 

I really have no interest in voting for any awards whether they be all star, athlete of the year etc. Same goes for comparing athletes of different eras. I don't know or care if Citation was better than Secretariat or Cigar. Nobody will ever know so who cares!

Having said that i know the things about racing that bring a lump to my throat are:

1) Forego catching Honest Pleasure in the Marlboro Cup. I still don't think he'll get there in time.

2) Go For Wand's demise in the Breeder's Cup

3) Zenyatta chasing Blame for all she was worth

4) Personal Ensign's win in the Distaff

5) Timely Writer's unfortunate end in the Jockey Club Gold Cup

There are lots more (Affirmed/Alydar; Slew O' Gold/Wild Again/Gate Dancer; Roving Boy's breakdown; etc. etc) This might be an idea for a new thread. Everyone can relate there favorite memories.

I guess my point is that 20 years from now we still might think of Zenyatta. I don't expect to be thinking about Blame.(unless he turns out to be a great sire). We were lucky to have her.


 
 
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