You mentioned the group as being a bunch of Clowns and not telling the truth.
Here is a page about Victor "Sonny" Gascon.
Your path to here and bringing up old history at other locations and arguements, would like some clairification???
http://www.karazenpogoshinjutsu.com/history.html
I thought this was pretty well established at the arguement on Bullshido, and your attack on the late, Dave Simmons, then the big cover up, occuring...Hmmmmmm
Many opinions and discussions we have had, still not sure the whole truth and nothing but the truth...That is a given...
But, I was there in North Hollywood, circa 60's...Were you or John B.? No.
Edit:
I do notice that Walter Godin has not been mentioned. I believe we did have a conversation about him, and why the two parted. But then trying to track that one down is interesting...Jason Groff, has been helpful with history also... He is pretty knowledgeable when it comes to Hawaii and that time frame, having Uncle Franks ear like he does.
Regards,
Gary