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This is a discussion forum dedicated to the research of (mainly) pre-WW2 military equipment, with the emphasis on non-standard and lesser known material of smaller or non-belligerent nations. The Forum is an offshoot of Overvalwagens! Kaleidoscope of military vehicles of the Dutch East and West Indies before 1945 (which can be found on http://www.overvalwagen.com) Overvalwagens was my first big military history project, started in 2004. Feel free to discuss military vehicles of the Dutch East and West Indies and other nations right here on this forum. My second project is the history of HIH, or HIH Siderius, a forgotten Dutch gunproducer. Artillery of the Dutch forces is also of great interest, as is lesser known equipment of other nations.

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Barcelona military museum closed! View thread - nuyt on Sep 23, 2009

mystery - nuyt on Sep 23, 2009

Re: mystery - Piotr T. Szymanski on Sep 25, 2009

yes - nuyt on Sep 25, 2009

Some pics - nuyt on Oct 30, 2009

more pics - nuyt on Oct 31, 2009

Reichswehr artillery weapons View thread - nuyt on Aug 29, 2008

More Reichswehr - Nuyt on Aug 30, 2008

Reichswehr guns - nuyt on Aug 30, 2008

Ullstein Bild - nuyt on Aug 30, 2008

And more - nuyt on Oct 20, 2008

K17 - nuyt on Dec 26, 2008

15 cm K16 - nuyt on Dec 26, 2008

Appearances - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

Some pics, 1936 - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

7,7 cm FK16 n.A. - nuyt on Dec 27, 2008

and this - nuyt on May 21, 2009

7,62 cm FLAK ? on Kraftwagen 19 - nuyt on Dec 30, 2008

No, 7,7 cm Krupp - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

Two more - nuyt on Jan 9, 2009

Types of Kraftwagen FLAK - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

But what is this one? - nuyt on Jan 22, 2009

and this one? - nuyt on Apr 26, 2009

Pak-Atrappe - nuyt on Jan 21, 2009

towed - nuyt on Jan 31, 2009

More - nuyt on Jan 31, 2009

AA - nuyt on Feb 2, 2009

8,8 cm L45 Marine/Coastal/AA - nuyt on Jun 22, 2009

Mountain - nuyt on Sep 9, 2008

Wehrmacht inaugurating the Olympics, 1936 - nuyt on Dec 26, 2008

ID this German mountain piece - nuyt on Dec 27, 2008

More shots - nuyt on Dec 27, 2008

But - nuyt on Dec 27, 2008

Still preserved - nuyt on Dec 28, 2008

K15 in 1932 - nuyt on Dec 29, 2008

nice little Skoda, 1935 - nuyt on Apr 26, 2009

Now the biggest mystery: numbers - nuyt on Sep 12, 2008

Production in 1939 - nuyt on Sep 30, 2008

Numbers for 1939 according to Lexikon der Wehrmacht - nuyt on Sep 30, 2008

closing down on the figures - Nuyt on Sep 30, 2008

further down - Nuyt on Sep 30, 2008

German artillery production 1930-39 - nuyt on Oct 1, 2008

export - Nuyt on Oct 4, 2008

Rheinmetall and Krupp exports and German deliveries before sep 1939 - Spain, China added - nuyt on Oct 4, 2008

New amalgamated production - Nuyt on Oct 4, 2008

Krupp for Brazil - bram risseeuw on Oct 5, 2008

Krupp brazil - bram risseeuw on Oct 5, 2008

brazil - bram risseeuw on Oct 5, 2008

Types - nuyt on Oct 5, 2008

75 mm L55 - bram risseeuw on Oct 5, 2008

doubts - nuyt on Oct 5, 2008

Rheinmetall - Nuyt on Oct 5, 2008

brazil - bram risseeuw on Oct 5, 2008

37mm Tak L/50 - robert Mellichamp on Oct 5, 2008

Photos - nuyt on Oct 5, 2008

Found one - nuyt on Nov 28, 2008

Help complete Chinese deliveries-updated - nuyt on May 16, 2009

88 and 37mm Flak - Susan on May 17, 2009

Thanks Susan! - nuyt on May 17, 2009

China info on AHF - Susan on May 19, 2009

Chinese Solothurn 105mm mountain gun? - nuyt on May 17, 2009

Rheinmetall 10,5 cm L/15 - nuyt on May 22, 2009

Afghanistan - nuyt on May 21, 2009

German deliveries to Bulgaria - nuyt on May 24, 2009

Spanish deliveries - nuyt on Oct 19, 2008

FLAK16 - nuyt on Oct 19, 2008

Republican deliveries - nuyt on Oct 19, 2008

German experimental artillery - nuyt on Oct 22, 2008

One down! The FLAK 14 in Reichswehr service! - nuyt on Dec 26, 2008

FLAK14 - nuyt on Dec 30, 2008

Fahrabteilungen - nuyt on Jan 24, 2009

Trucks - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

survivor in Spain - nuyt on Oct 31, 2009

FLAK 28, 29 - nuyt on Dec 30, 2008

ID this field gun - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

IWM picture - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

Forerunner of the FK 18? - nuyt on Jan 19, 2009

Another pic - nuyt on Mar 13, 2009

hmm, some similarities but not quite - nuyt on May 22, 2009

Very interesting numbers - nuyt on Dec 26, 2008

Still.. - nuyt on Dec 26, 2008

ID these field pieces - Skoda? - nuyt on Dec 27, 2008

German Bofors? - nuyt on Dec 28, 2008

Solved? - nuyt on Dec 29, 2008

Bundesheer to Wehrmacht - Nuyt on Jan 9, 2009

Austrian artillery inventory 1938 - nuyt on Jan 11, 2009

Some remarks - Nuyt on Dec 28, 2008

Re: Remarks - WH Reed on Jan 1, 2009

Indeed - nuyt on Jan 1, 2009

From the Czechosloval inventory - nuyt on May 3, 2009

15cm sFH - nuyt on Apr 26, 2009

another pic - nuyt on Apr 26, 2009

And another - nuyt on Apr 27, 2009

light gun - nuyt on Apr 26, 2009

Amazing Rheinmetall factory pics! - nuyt on Apr 27, 2009

Re Rheinmetall pics - Sturm78 on May 2, 2009

Thanks - nuyt on May 2, 2009

Re: 15cm K-18 in North Africa - Wesley Thomas on Jun 29, 2009

Re: 15cm K-18 in North Africa - nuyt on Jul 25, 2009

15cm K-18 - Wesley Thomas on Jul 25, 2009

losses - nuyt on Jul 25, 2009

K-18 losses - Wesley Thomas on Jul 27, 2009

Spanish 75mm Verdeja self propelled gun View thread - Nuyt on Mar 4, 2007

More pics - Nuyt on Mar 4, 2007

rear view - nuyt on Oct 31, 2009

Post- WW2 Spanish artillery developments View thread - Nuyt on Apr 8, 2007

Re: Post- WW2 Spanish artillery developments - Amadeo on Apr 11, 2007

Re: Post- WW2 Spanish artillery developments - Amadeo on Apr 11, 2007

Muchas gracias! - Nuyt on Apr 11, 2007

Ah! - Nuyt on Apr 11, 2007

Re: Muchas gracias! - Amadeo on Apr 11, 2007

So, - Nuyt on Apr 12, 2007

Re: So, - Amadeo on Apr 12, 2007

Gracias ! - nuyt on Apr 13, 2007

AA artillery - nuyt on Jul 7, 2007

re: 15cm Rheinmetall/Trubia L/55 - Wesley on Jul 4, 2009

Verdeja 75 mm - nuyt on Oct 30, 2009

Serbian Artillery of World War 1 & the Balkan Wars View thread - BrenTate on Oct 9, 2009

Re: Serbian Artillery of World War 1 & the Balkan Wars - MCP on Oct 9, 2009

Re: Serbian Artillery of World War 1 & the Balkan Wars - MCP on Oct 9, 2009

Captured guns - MCP on Oct 9, 2009

Serb WWI Artillery - Brennan Tate on Oct 10, 2009

Mountain guns - nuyt on Oct 15, 2009

Mountain Guns - Brennan Tate on Oct 20, 2009

Rheinmetall 8 cm for Serbia - nuyt on Oct 23, 2009

Rheinmetall 8 cm for Serbia - Brennan Tate on Oct 24, 2009

Serbia - MG's Plus Captures From Austria 1914 - Brennan Tate on Oct 26, 2009

One for Bill Murray View thread - nuyt on Oct 23, 2009

It's a Ford - bill murray on Oct 24, 2009

Thanks Bill - nuyt on Oct 24, 2009

Other truck - bill murray on Oct 26, 2009

could you ID theses trucks, please View thread - tommyvicard on Sep 23, 2009

Truck ID - Bill Murray on Sep 26, 2009

Jaaz truck ?? - tommy vicard on Sep 27, 2009

Re: Jaaz truck ?? - bill murray on Sep 27, 2009

Re: Jaaz truck ?? - Bill murray on Sep 27, 2009

find it - tommy vicard on Sep 27, 2009

Re: find it - bill murray on Sep 27, 2009

thank again !! (nt) - tommy vicard on Sep 27, 2009

Tractor? - nuyt on Sep 27, 2009

JAAZ 210G! - Leonid on Sep 29, 2009

right ! and a new truck - tommy vicard on Sep 30, 2009

hard one - nuyt on Oct 8, 2009

re: new truck - Wesley Thomas on Oct 11, 2009

re: new truck - Wesley Thomas on Oct 11, 2009

trucks - Wesley Thomas on Oct 11, 2009

Truck ID - Bill Murray on Oct 12, 2009

thank again and... - Tommy Vicard on Oct 24, 2009

KNIL 47mm Mortar View thread - Chas on Oct 6, 2009

both - nuyt on Oct 6, 2009

Re: KNIL 47mm Mortar - Chas on Oct 6, 2009

47mm Brandt Mortar - David Reasoner on Oct 9, 2009

TM9-2005 - David Reasoner on Oct 9, 2009

47mm Brandt Mortar - David Reasoner on Oct 9, 2009

picture - nuyt on Oct 23, 2009

Belgian softskin vehicles View thread - Nuyt on Mar 12, 2006

Chevrolets - Nuyt on Mar 12, 2006

More types - Nuyt on Mar 12, 2006

GMC - Nuyt on Mar 12, 2006

an ex-Belgian GMC in German service - Nuyt on Mar 18, 2006

two more - nuyt on Dec 7, 2008

Belgian truck ID - Nuyt on Mar 18, 2006

Belgian truck ID - louis on Aug 17, 2006

Miesse - Nuyt on Jul 30, 2006

alvis-straussler hefty - nuyt on Sep 10, 2006

Miesse - karlik on Oct 2, 2009

Not sure - nuyt on Oct 3, 2009

cover - karlik on Oct 3, 2009

probably! - nuyt on Oct 3, 2009

Miesse 8 Photo - David Reasoner on Oct 3, 2009

book - karlik on Oct 3, 2009

Brossel TAL - Brossel on Aug 14, 2006

Another Brossel Tal - nuyt on Sep 10, 2006

one more - Nuyt on May 27, 2007

TAL chassis plus heavy truck - nuyt on Dec 11, 2008

Fabrique Nationale - Heesakkers Hans on Aug 15, 2006

wow - Brossel on Aug 15, 2006

FN63 artillery tractor - Heesakkers Hans on Aug 17, 2006

FN63c/4rm production model and Bofors 75mm howitzer - nuyt on Jan 14, 2007

More FN 63c 4rm - Nuyt on Jan 31, 2007

Grand picture - nuyt on May 30, 2007

another one - nuyt on Jun 2, 2007

Post war civilian version - nuyt on Dec 11, 2008

FN prototype - Heesakkers Hans on Aug 17, 2006

FN/Tempo - Nuyt on Sep 10, 2006

Belgarice - Nuyt on Sep 10, 2006

FN-Kegresse halftracks - Nuyt on Sep 10, 2006

towing a Schneider - nuyt on Jun 21, 2007

re: Towing a Schneider - Wesley Thomas on Oct 23, 2009

Yes - nuyt on Oct 23, 2009

Chenard and Walker - nuyt on May 17, 2007

flak guns - jopaerya on May 17, 2007

Belgian Latil tractors - nuyt on Dec 7, 2008

halftrack - nuyt on Apr 26, 2009

Afghanistan Armor, Trucks and Artillery 1959-1962 (images) View thread - Longerange on Aug 7, 2009

Great - nuyt on Aug 7, 2009

Absolutely stunning - Lukas on Oct 3, 2009

More Royal Afghan Vehicles - Longerange on Oct 3, 2009

Not Bofors i think... - Erik Ahlstr�m on Oct 21, 2009

Afghan Artillery 1932 - Longerange on Oct 3, 2009

Great Photo Lot ID for most - bill murray on Oct 6, 2009

Field gun in photo with ZIL-151 - Wesley Thomas on Oct 23, 2009

re: Afghan artillery 1932 - Wesley Thomas on Oct 11, 2009

guns in Capetown View thread - nuyt on Oct 21, 2009

Green Point/ Mouille Point coastal artillery - nuyt on Oct 21, 2009

Google Earth - nuyt on Oct 21, 2009

Ordnance BLC 15-pounder? - David Reasoner on Oct 22, 2009

Then it may be - nuyt on Oct 22, 2009

Fort Wynyard - nuyt on Oct 22, 2009

re: reported Iraqi use of the AMX-30 MBT ca. 1970-1987/88 View thread - Wesley Thomas on Oct 11, 2009

reports of Iraqi AMX-30 MBTs - Wesley Thomas on Oct 16, 2009

remarkable pics of US trucks and guns View thread - nuyt on Oct 16, 2009

4th Turkish/Ottoman artillery discussion thread View thread - nuyt on Aug 16, 2007

Still to be IDd - nuyt on Aug 16, 2007

Getting close - nuyt on Jul 6, 2008

nother Skoda 15cm - Nuyt on Aug 22, 2007

some older weapons - Nuyt on Aug 23, 2007

Model1939 75mm L35 - nuyt on Aug 23, 2007

1904 Krupp - Nuyt on Aug 29, 2007

Canakkale mountain gun - nuyt on Sep 20, 2007

canon turc - Nuyt on Sep 22, 2007

Vickers 75mm AA - nuyt on Nov 28, 2007

naval guns - nuyt on Nov 29, 2007

WW1 artillery - nuyt on Nov 29, 2007

Hotchkiss 25mm - nuyt on Dec 1, 2007

couple of mountain guns - nuyt on Dec 5, 2007

Some oldies - nuyt on Dec 5, 2007

Harbiye Museum - Nuyt on Dec 5, 2007

Early Turkish AA! - Nuyt on Dec 5, 2007

The Erzurum gun - Nuyt on Dec 5, 2007

Bundearchiv - Nuyt on Dec 8, 2007

75mm Krupp - nuyt on Dec 9, 2007

4.2 inch - nuyt on Dec 13, 2007

Battle of Sakarya, 1921 - Nuyt on Dec 18, 2007

Turkollywood - The Edge on Dec 25, 2007

Vickers AA gun - nuyt on Dec 20, 2007

Some unknown howitzers - nuyt on Dec 23, 2007

or - nuyt on Dec 23, 2007

Czech Eqp - The Edge on Dec 25, 2007

two additions - nuyt on Jan 26, 2008

Vickers AA - nuyt on Jan 26, 2008

more additions - nuyt on Jan 26, 2008

Turkisch ordnance at eBay - Jan Visser on Jan 31, 2008

thanks - nuyt on Feb 1, 2008

Canakkale Cimenlik Kalesi - nuyt on Feb 7, 2008

Rheinmetall - Forum Owner on May 17, 2009

Turkish-German relations - nuyt on Feb 17, 2008

Even more at Canakkale - nuyt on May 12, 2008

Ottoman Schneider guns - nuyt on May 21, 2008

AA truck - Nuyt on Jun 7, 2008

Turkish-Greek artillery exchange 1930s - nuyt on Jun 15, 2008

captured by Bulgaria - Nuyt on Jun 16, 2008

assorted from gitty - nuyt on Jun 25, 2008

1940 field gun - nuyt on Jul 5, 2008

More pics from Istanbul military museum - nuyt on Aug 4, 2008

Re: More pics from Istanbul military museum - Leonid on Aug 5, 2008

No - nuyt on Aug 5, 2008

Re: No - Leonid on Aug 6, 2008

Turkish Life - nuyt on Nov 28, 2008

Hotchkiss 25mm variants - nuyt on Nov 28, 2008

Interesting for another reason - Bessar on Apr 25, 2009

More new pics - nuyt on Nov 28, 2008

360 degrees - nuyt on Apr 21, 2009

More pics - nuyt on Apr 21, 2009

Russian 152 mm M10? - Nuyt on Apr 21, 2009

No - Nuyt on Apr 21, 2009

Possible Skoda 15 cm in travelling position - nuyt on Apr 26, 2009

Bofors on mules! - nuyt on May 2, 2009

Bochumer Verein/Hanomag 10 cm mountain howitzers - nuyt on Jul 30, 2009

there was more - Forum Owner on Jul 30, 2009

More interesting pics! - nuyt on Aug 11, 2009

heavy mortar or howitzer - nuyt on Aug 11, 2009

one more - nuyt on Aug 11, 2009

Skoda K-1 15cm field howitzer - Wesley Thomas on Sep 8, 2009

Yes, - nuyt on Sep 8, 2009

or Vickers - nuyt on Sep 20, 2009

or Vickers - Wesley Thomas on Oct 11, 2009

Yes - nuyt on Oct 12, 2009

New KNIL vehicle pictures- Overvalwagens! update thread View thread - nuyt on May 25, 2006

Some guns - Nuyt on May 25, 2006

Trucks in Australia - Nuyt on May 25, 2006

Re: Trucks in Australia - louis on Nov 24, 2006

Re: New KNIL vehicle pictures - Rogier Peeters on Jun 2, 2006

listening devices! - nuyt on Jun 28, 2006

and what about radio-bicycles! - Nuyt on Jun 28, 2006

Dutch Radar - Susan Cross on Jun 28, 2006

NEI Listening/Radar Units - Tom on Jan 26, 2007

listening devices - Nuyt on Jan 30, 2007

Footage of Listening Apparatus - Tom Womack on Feb 2, 2007

updates grouped together - Nuyt on Jun 24, 2006

new swampbuggy picture - Nuyt on Jun 24, 2006

some new info - Nuyt on Jan 26, 2008

Those elusive armoured jeeps again! - nuyt on Jun 29, 2006

Again those d$%#@d armoured jeeps! - Nuyt on May 15, 2007

Marmon-Herringtons - Nuyt on Jul 23, 2006

surviving tank pictures - Nuyt on Aug 1, 2006

picture of Marmon Herringtons tank - louis on Nov 24, 2006

Thanks - nuyt on Nov 26, 2006

Better quality pic - nuyt on May 15, 2007

KNIL Vickers Utility Tractor - nuyt on Oct 14, 2006

KNIL Aviation trucks, 1936 - nuyt on Oct 14, 2006

ID-ing - nuyt on Oct 15, 2006

Re: ID-ing - Bill Murray on Oct 16, 2006

Re: ID-ing - Bill Murray on Oct 16, 2006

Chevy PD - Nuyt on Oct 16, 2006

Vickers light tank - Nuyt on Oct 18, 2006

rare shot - nuyt on Oct 19, 2006

Great picture of the Krupp-Wilton-Fijenoord armoured car - Nuyt on Nov 1, 2006

More pics - Nuyt on May 18, 2007

trying - Nuyt on May 18, 2007

trying again - Nuyt on May 18, 2007

some more pics - Nuyt on Nov 26, 2006

Vickers Utility Tractor at Bronbeek - Nuyt on Dec 21, 2006

Some unidentified trucks - Nuyt on Dec 29, 2006

Re: Some unidentified trucks - louis on Dec 31, 2006

Dutch Marines' vehicles on Curacao, 1930s - Nuyt on Jan 7, 2007

Mariner's vehicle ID - Bill Murray on Jan 9, 2007

reminder - Nuyt on Jan 14, 2007

Fire carts and a truck - Nuyt on Jan 30, 2007

Re: Fire carts and a truck - louis on Feb 1, 2007

One more Batavia Stadswacht Overvalwwagen - Nuyt on Feb 27, 2007

Marmon-Herrington tank in Surinam - Nuyt on Apr 7, 2007

New batch of Jakarta rail Braat - nuyt on May 5, 2007

Braat still exists! - nuyt on May 15, 2007

I think ....... - Aripin L. Sunardi on Jul 17, 2007

South African recce cars on parade - Nuyt on May 5, 2007

Some prewar Fords and Chevrolets - nuyt on May 18, 2007

Marmon-Herrington tractor wreck? - nuyt on May 18, 2007

Marines 6 wheel armoured car - Nuyt on May 18, 2007

Pantserjeep - Hans Heesakkers on May 22, 2007

Thanks Hans - Nuyt on May 22, 2007

New Railroad Braat overvalwagen picture - nuyt on Jul 11, 2007

Alvis-Straussler AC3D - Nuyt on Aug 8, 2007

Braat on Ambon, 1950 - nuyt on Aug 20, 2007

SA recce car in TNI service - Nuyt on Aug 20, 2007

Vickers amphibious tank - Nuyt on Aug 20, 2007

gunport and 4x4? - Nuyt on Aug 20, 2007

Overvalwagens, Vickers MkVIb, Boforses and a Boehler - nuyt on Aug 23, 2007

Curacao armoured car - nuyt on Aug 24, 2007

search with "voertuig" - nuyt on Aug 24, 2007

Braat pictural history book - nuyt on Aug 24, 2007

ebay Marmon-Herrington tractor ad - Nuyt on Aug 30, 2007

more in da West - Nuyt on Sep 1, 2007

new NIOD pics - nuyt on Sep 16, 2007

more - nuyt on Sep 16, 2007

LBD ambulance trailer - Nuyt on Sep 17, 2007

Ebay - nuyt on Sep 22, 2007

eBay-pictures - Theo Steuten on Oct 6, 2007

Thanks - nuyt on Oct 6, 2007

Colour film showing Batavia Stadswacht overvalwagens - Nuyt on Nov 30, 2007

vehicle ID - nuyt on Dec 15, 2007

Re: vehicle ID - Bill Murray on Dec 15, 2007

this? - Nuyt on Dec 22, 2007

Re: this? - Bill Murray on Dec 22, 2007

M-H tank - Nuyt on Dec 23, 2007

Re: M-H tank - Toxandrie on Dec 23, 2007

Marmon-Herringtons in Surinam - Nuyt on Jan 24, 2008

ecuador - nuyt on Feb 1, 2008

Close up of gun - Nuyt on Feb 4, 2008

Some vehicles postwar on Aruba - nuyt on Feb 7, 2008

Re: Some vehicles postwar on Aruba - Bill Murray on Feb 8, 2008

Interesting radio - nuyt on Feb 24, 2008

Telephone switchboard? - David Reasoner on Feb 25, 2008

Vickers tanks in Greece - nuyt on Mar 14, 2008

And another picture - nuyt on May 12, 2008

Tricar - Nuyt on Mar 22, 2008

More info: FN and KNIL - nuyt on Aug 16, 2008

Better Beeldbank - nuyt on May 14, 2008

Maple Leaf enlarged - nuyt on May 14, 2008

Re: Maple Leaf enlarged - nuyt on May 15, 2008

Braats enlarged - nuyt on May 15, 2008

Unknown Braat pic - Nuyt on Jun 7, 2008

Vickers Utility tractor - nuyt on Jan 9, 2009

Dodge trucks with KNIL? - nuyt on Jan 9, 2009

Surinam guntruck - nuyt on Aug 8, 2009

New AC3D armoured car pics - nuyt on Aug 14, 2009

and a modeller's hard work! - nuyt on Aug 15, 2009

Re: and a modeller's hard work! - Leonid on Aug 20, 2009

ID these tanker trucks - nuyt on Oct 7, 2009

Truck ID - Bill Murray on Oct 7, 2009

Hi - nuyt on Oct 8, 2009

Vehicle ID 2 - Bill Murray on Oct 8, 2009

Rheinmetall 15 cm L/30 Kartaune View thread - nuyt on Oct 6, 2009

some answers - nuyt on Oct 6, 2009

artillery of neutral states during WW1 View thread - nuyt on Sep 26, 2009

Re: artillery of neutral states during WW1 - Johan Bertilsson on Sep 28, 2009

thanks - Forum Owner on Sep 28, 2009

Danish light artillery - Johan Bertilsson on Oct 4, 2009

Thank you and - nuyt on Oct 5, 2009

Good Morning... View thread - Roddy de Normann on Oct 4, 2009

Minerva armoured car in Dutch service View thread - nuyt on Sep 30, 2009

ADSK scout car View thread - Piotr T. Szymanski on Sep 22, 2009

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