If you make a donation to the Canadian Breast Cancer
Foundation, please mention "lacrosse" in a note with
the donation. At my request, in memory of my wife
Brenda, the CBCF will then direct the funds to a
facility seeking a "cure", rather than a "control".
CUFLA Founders Minto Presidents Mann
Cup Cup Cup Cup
Guelph Six Nations Orangeville Owen Sound Brampton
Gryphons Rebels Jr 'A' Northmen Woodsmen Excelsiors
Conditions for the 25th annual Baggataway Cup were ideal. On an unusual November day in Ottawa the sun was shining and temperature reached +12 degrees in the afternoon. The final featured two teams from CUFLA's West division: top seeded Brock Badgers (12-0) vs. second seed McMaster Marauders (9-3).
The game began with Brock scoring on their first possession. The Badgers controlled the ball for almost the first 10 minutes but could not extend their lead. Mac eventually found their legs and countered with a barrage including a power play goal to go up 3-1 after the first quarter.
In the second quarter Brock drew even and then went ahead 5-4 as the time wound down. With around two minutes remaining in the half Mac had the ball in the Badger end and looked to be holding on for the last shot. Isolating from behind the net a Mac middie drew a double team and dished to the crease to knotch the score at 5 apiece. But their timing was off, Mac left about 30 seconds on the clock in the second quarter. Brock won the ensuing faceoff and called a time out. They managed to get off one more play and scored a weak goal on a drive down the right side of the field. The Badgers went into halftime ahead 6-5.
The second half saw Brock jump off to a quick start again with a goal on their first possession. Brock dominated faceoffs all game and used it to their advantage in the second half going up 12-8 part way through the fourth quarter. Some untimely penalties by Brock and gutsy play by Mac kept things close. With 1 minute to go and the score 12-10, Mac scored on a broken play to cut the margin to one. But on the next faceoff the Badgers came up with the ball once again and held on to finish off an undefeated season and seal the victory.
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 6:50 PM from IP address 70.26.32.181
Brock Wins Bank of America Baggataway Cup
2009-11-08
Brock ended McMaster's story book run to the Bank of America Baggataway Cup finals by a score of 12-11 and ended their 2009 season a perfect 13-0.
November 8th, 2009 Ottawa, Ont. Sunny, 13 degrees. In front of an excited and near capacity crowd at Carleton Universitys Keith Harris Stadium and the Bank of America Baggataway Cup at stake, both McMaster and Brock did not disappoint!
McMaster set the tone in the first quarter, leading by a score of 3 1 after twenty minutes. Brock took the second quarter by storm by scoring 5 goals to McMasters 2 and were ahead 6 5 at halftime. End to end action continued in the third and fourth quarters. Brock won a tight third quarter with 3 goals to McMasters 2. McMasters MadeForEveryone.com player of the game Kevin MaCrory, a junior from Etobicoke, Ontario, seemed unstoppable leading all scorers with 6 points (5 goals, 1 assist) on the day and in the tournament with 14 points in 3 games (11 goals, 3 assists).
Sophomore and MadeForEveryone.com player of the game for Brock Mike MaCleod of Owen Sound, Ontario, continued to push Brock forward scoring 2 of his 3 goals in the final quarter. MaCleod was tied for second in points in the tournament with fellow teammate Chris Nash (10 points).
The second half belonged to MadeForEveryone.com tournament MVP Brett Kikot who put an end to McMasters story book playoff run that started with come from behind wins against both Guelph and Trent by making several key saves. 2 of MaCrorys 5 goals came in the final stanza which McMaster won 4 2, but Brock went on to win the war 12-11.
Brock ended their 2009 season a perfect 13-0. We look forward to watching both teams compete in 2010!
Ryan McGrath
Commissioner
Canadian University Field Lacrosse Association
www.cufla.ca
613-552-0896
acommissioner@cufla.ca
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 7:05 PM from IP address 76.64.23.94
WHY WINDSOR WEEPS
THE DETROIT FREE PRESS
JUNE 21, 1886
The city just across the straits has tears to shed and is shedding them now. Her cause for grief is very much similar to that which occasions Detroits pall of gloom at the present minute. Down at St. Catherines, Ont., there is a lacrosse team which is considered about the best in the Dominion. Windsor devotees of this great sport registered a solemn vow something like a year ago to remove the scalp of this club and bring it over to the Essex County metropolis. There were a number of good amateur players in Windsor and patriotic business men gave employment to two of the best players in Quebec and brought them to Windsor. They practised all the golden spring and the Windsor heart beat high. Faith was pinned to the two imported players. When the team went to St. Catharines to bring away the laurel it took along a large sum of money contributed by Windsor enthusiasts which was wagered on a Windsor victory. Windsor was beaten, not merely beaten but crushed. There are palliating circumstances to the defeat from a players standpoint, but not from the standpoint of admirers of the club. Hence Windsor is in sackcloth and ashes and her gilded youths are penniless.
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:01 AM from IP address 69.165.153.212
The first match saw Brock easily handle McGill. The Badgers played a relatively disciplined game and were led by a stingy defence. The always dangerous Brock offence capitalized on special teams and fast break/unsettled situations. Brock also had the edge in ball possession for most of the game.
The second semifinal was more competitive. It was a see-saw battle between Trent Excalibur - the top seed from the East - and this year's Cinderella story McMaster Marauders (actually the number 2 seed from the West).
The Marauders opened the scoring with I believe the only goal of the first quarter. Trent then went on a run, easily controlling faceoffs and loose balls while filling the net to go up 5-1 at halftime. Mac stuck to their game plan and eventually started to pull within range as the second half moved along. At some point in the fourth quarter, Trent's middies looked to be tiring and Mac began to control loose balls and dictate the game. Mac tied the score at 7-7 in the last minute of regulation time.
The first overtime half began with a quick Trent goal to go up by one. They added an insurance marker a few minutes later. At the beginning of the second overtime half, Trent was up 9-7 and looked like they were finally headed to the widely anticipated CUFLA final matchup against Brock.
With about one minute left in overtime Trent had the ball in the Mac end of the field, but decided to go to the net and try to extended their lead to 3. Mac's goalie made the save and the ball was quickly cleared to half by a Mac longpole. Timeout. On the ensuing set play Mac scored to pull within one goal with 17 seconds left to play.
Mac's drawman was then able to generate a fast break off the faceoff and found a streaking attacker on the left side who ripped it home. The Mac side of the field erupted - Trent's bench looked like they wanted to be sick. In addition Trent was given a one minute slashing penalty on the game tying play.
Mac's drawman quickly picked up the ball on the next faceoff just as time was expiring. With a Trent player in the penalty box, Mac would retain possession heading into sudden death OT. The Mac powerplay moved the ball around, spreading out Trent's penalty killers before finding attacker Gavin Barrie on the crease. Barrie made no mistake, bringing an end to one of the most exciting lacrosse games played in Ottawa in years.
Here's hoping for another good game in the final 1 PM Sunday November 8.
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:21 AM from IP address 70.26.32.181
I am sitting here reading about Torontos bid for the Pan Am games . Has anyone at the brainstrust we call the CLA inquired about adding Field lacrosse to the list of sports to be included? do they ( Pan Am ) Have "Demonstration Sports" the same way the Olympics do ? Anyways hope they get the games good for the Local economies and what the heck maybe they can use an announcer or two.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 7:19 AM from IP address 74.12.43.56
would be eligible to play with maybe, and just maybe affiliated nations (that have never competed at a Worlds)
Argentina.
What if a newer version of the Brogden Cup was played every four years, but two years after a World Championship between Canada, Iroquois and the US rather than as a demonstration sport at the Pan Games?
Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 2:43 PM from IP address 99.240.175.19
A number of these players have played in Ontario and it is great to see them leading the Martime Field lacrosse Program
2009 MUFLL Award Nominations
LISTED BELOW ARE THE 2009 MUFLL AWARD NOMINEES AS CHOSEN BY THE SIX MUFLL TEAMS. THESE PLAYERS WILL BE RATED BY THE TEAMS AND THE RESULTING TOTALS WILL DETERMINE THE AWARD WINNERS. AWARDS WILL BE GIVEN OUT AT OUR AWARDS BANQUET AT 3PM ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH, BETWEEN THE QUARTER AND SEMI-FINAL GAMES.
League MVP
#90 Chris Soucie St FX
#4 Tom Allen Dal
#1 Ben Sweet Acadia
#6 Ian Higgins SMU
#22 Drew Mitchell St FX
#9 Nick Thebeau St FX
Top Defenseman
#4 Tom Allen Dal
#1 Ben Sweet Acadia
#19 John MacEachern StFX
#12 Andrew Thomas Mt A
Top Goalie
#1 Tyler James Mt A
#90 Chris Soucie St FX
#6 Ross Grimes Acadia
#1 Mike Cowan Dal
Coach of the Year
Wayne Mallet UNB
Eddie Hill SMU
Nick Bradley Dal
Trevor Avery Acadia
Jim Odell Mt A
Top Senior
#9 Nick Thebeau St FX
#71 Terry Sutherland SMU
#1 Ben Sweet Acadia
#27 Mike Diener Dal
Top Freshman
#6 Matt Tweedie Mt A
#22 Tyler Tramble UNB
#11 Adam Bruce Acadia
#5 Blake Johnston SMU
#9 David Gagnier Dal
All-Star Attack
#5 Fraser Champman UNB
#1 Mackenzie Mallet UNB
#12 Mike Zanyk Dal
#9 David Gagnier Dal
#19 Eddie Beqaj Acadia
#00 Blake Jeffrey Acadia
#71 Terry Sutherland SMU
#14 Jon Goguen SMU
#22 Drew Mitchell St FX
#9 Nick Thebeau St FX
#6 Matt Tweedie Mt A
#10 Wayne Crossman Mt A
All-Star Middie
#21 Matthew Mallet UNB
#9 Peter Mulholland UNB
#19 Blake Dalton Dal
#8 Duncan Smith Dal
#13 Matt Wolfenden Acadia
#14 PJ Regan Acadia
#6 Ian Higgins SMU
#15 Tyler Leeming SMU
#27 Mike Diener Dal
#14 Bryson Goodman St FX
#8 Joe Joudrey Mt A
#22 Jake Mundle Mt A
All-Star Defense
#13 David Fenicky UNB
#11 Andy Diduch UNB
#4 Tom Allen Dal
#10 Connor Dubreil Dal
#7 JP Magnan Acadia
#1 Ben Sweet Acadia
#11 Dan Johnston SMU
#4 Steve Lynch SMU
#19 John MacEachern StFX
#12 Andrew Thomas Mt A
#5 Mitch Bates Mt A
All-Star Goalie
#1 Mike Cowan Dal
#6 Ross Grimes Acadia
#1 Rodney Oickle SMU
#90 Chris Soucie St FX
#1 Tyler James Mt A
#22 Tyler Tramble UNB
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 1:55 PM from IP address 74.14.109.122
Special thanks to one of our players in our league who provided us with some highlights of the DI Championship game and posted them on youtube.
Video clip can be accessed through our main page at www.ojmfll.org
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 12:00 PM from IP address 142.156.1.223
If you have not already looked at all the amendments that have been proposed currently on the OLA website I have prepared asummary just listing the proposed changes The majority of the admendments deal with player movements and size of the roster these are important Issues and due consideration should be given prior to the votes when perhaps it is too late.
2009 PROPOSED OLA RULES & REGULATIONS AMENDMENT FORM
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Doug Luey
PROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
MR5.01(b)
A player over the age of sixteen (16) may not be signed by a Junior team from outside his own residential boundaries per the residence rule, unless accompanied by a release signed by the authorized officials of his residence Junior team. (See Regulation R6.12)
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
Housekeeping to correspond with R6.12(a)
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Doug Luey
ARTICLE TO BE AMENDED: R6.13(b)
PROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
R6.13(b)
A Midget age player may not play on a Major or Senior team.
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
To clarify that no Midget age player may play on a Senior team even if he is signed with a Junior team that is affiliated to that Senior team.
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Doug Luey
ARTICLE TO BE AMENDED: Change MR5.02 to MR5.02(a) and add: MR5.02(b) NEW
NEW
PROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
MR5.02(b)
A Midget age player may not play on a Major or Senior team.
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
To correspond with R6.13(b)
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Doug Luey
ARTICLE TO BE AMENDED: R6.14(d)
ROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
R6.14(d)
Junior players who are going to be reclassified to a lower category Junior team, must be released by the Junior team holding the player¡¯s playing rights, and reclassified prior to June 15th of the current playing season.
Note: Players being released after this date will be ineligible to move to the lower Junior team in that season.
Note: The higher level team retains the player¡¯s rights for their category, (at no cost, if the player returns).
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
This will clarify the reclassification rule and allow for all three categories of Junior.
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Doug Luey
ARTICLE TO BE AMENDED: R6.20(c)
PROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
R6.20(c)
Un-drafted players, of any age, whose Junior rights belong to a Junior team by residence, may not be signed to a higher category Junior team without the agreement of the team holding the player¡¯s rights. If the Junior team holding the player¡¯s rights agrees to allow the player the
opportunity to move up to play at the higher level fees will be paid to the lower category team in the following amounts: $300.00 in the first year (which, if the player is a graduating Midget, would be split and half ($150.00) paid to the Minor organization) and $300.00 in each of his followingyears of eligibility, to be paid annually, prior to the first game of the season.
NOTE: Teams may only lose a maximum of two players in one season and only one goaltender in
five years (drafted or un-drafted), except by mutual agreement of both parties.
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
This is to clarify that the rule includes players throughout their entire five years of eligibility.
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Doug Luey
ARTICLE TO BE AMENDED: NEW R6.35(c)
PRESENTLY READS:
NEW
PROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
R6.35(c): If a resident player in a centre with two junior teams is traded by the higher category team, the player¡¯s rights will be retained by that lower category team.
Note: Non-resident players, who have previously played for the lower category team, would also be covered under this rule.
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
To clarify, that the higher category¡¯s is not able to trade away the lower category¡¯s rights to a
player.
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Dave Vernon
ARTICLE TO BE AMENDED: R6.14(e) NEW
PRESENTLY READS:
NEW
PROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
R6.14(e)
Players being released conditionally to another team must first have been signed to a card with the releasing team or the release becomes unconditional.
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
Clarification as to who retains the rights of players being released, but who have not previously
played in the League
SIGNATURE OF CLUB PRESIDENT/ZONE DIRECTOR/COMMISSIONER: Dave Vernon
ARTICLE TO BE AMENDED: R6.14(b)
PROPOSED CHANGE TO READ (EXACT WORDING OF PROPOSED ARTICLE):
R6.14(b)
Up to July 15th, Junior players released prior to July 2nd may resign with the same team, or if that team has its limit of twenty-three signed, the player may sign with the next nearest team which has
fewer than the permitted number signed, and for which he is eligible. All players being signed to a new team under this rule would remain the property of that team. The player could not be released or traded back the following year.
Note: Players released prior to June 1st would be exempted from this rule and would be eligible to return to their previous team in the following season, if released conditionally.
REASON FOR SUGGESTING CHANGE:
This would allow surplus players to be released conditionally up to June 1st without becoming caught up in the ¡®no return¡¯ policy. The following season, they could return to their residence team to tryout again. They would still have the option of signing or being released again.
Proposed by: Mike Hancock, Halton Hills Jr B
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
R6.09
No Junior to Major team shall have more than twenty-five players signed and registered at any one time. When the maximum number of players has been signed, one must be released and his certificate returned to the LeagueRegistrar before an additional player may be signed and approved.
Reason for suggesting change:
This rule would allow Junior teams to sign the same number of players as all other levels of lacrosse. This also brings the Junior roster size in line with the numbers for the CLA rosters for national championships. This would also greatly reduce the need for Junior teams to sign players to lower category affiliated clubs IE Jr B and Jr A teams signing players to Intermediate cards.
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner Mary M Sticca
Article to be Amended: MR7.02(c)
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
MR7.02(c)
Clubs must gather ALL their ¡°Provincial Team Roster¡± forms and submit forms electronically toOntario Lacrosse Promotions Director (refer OLA Directory ) no later than July 1st. Any club that fails to do so will be fined $50.00. If entering more than one team in any group, you must
denote the number of the team. (eg. #1, #2 etc.) Prior to the Championship Tournament or playoff concerned, a club may chose to move a player from a lower rated team to a higher rated team, but under no circumstances may a player be moved from a higher rated team to a lower rated team.
Definition Note: After July 2nd no further player movement is allowed. (Refer also to MR2.01)
Above rule does not apply to any club¡¯s play in a National Tournament or National Championship.
Reason for suggesting change:
Process needs to be stream lined. The current practice of submitting forms to the Zone Directors is adding an additional step to the process.
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner_Mary M Sticca
Article to be Amended: MR2.01
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
MR2.01
No team may have more than twenty-five (25) players registered for competition.
Reason for suggesting change:
This change is only to remove the date. Currently no more than 25 players may be rostered to a team, that remains unchanged. The date of July 2nd has allowed centers to hold on to more than 25 players. At July 2nd surplus players are then cut, leaving them without a place to play. This change will allow those registered players the opportunity to go to their next closest center to play.
Signature of Junior ¡°A¡± Commissioner: Dean McLeod
Article to be Amended: B13.02(b)
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
Matters that affect only Major, Senior or Junior teams will be voted upon by those delegates in good standing from Major, Senior and Junior teams plus Governors and Life Members. Matters that affect only Minor Associations will be voted upon only by those delegates in good standing
from Minor Associations plus Governors and Life Members.
Reason for suggesting change:
We feel that only the delegates should vote on constitutional items that effect their respective level of lacrosse.
Signature of Junior ¡°A¡± Commissioner: Dean McLeod
Article to be Amended: R6.23(e)
2009 PROPOSED OLA RULES & REGULATIONS AMENDMENT FORM
VOTING OUTCOME
¡õ CARRIED ¡õ DEFEATED ¡õ AMENDED ¡õ WITHDRAWN
Date: September 27, 2009
Proposed by: Junior ¡°A¡± Council
Signature of Junior ¡°A¡± Commissioner
Article to be Amended: R6.38(b)
Presently Reads:
Having drafted a player, the drafting team must advise the player and his former team by registered mail within fourteen days, with a copy to the O.L.A. office and the league commissioner. If contact is not made in this way, the draft of that player is cancelled and the player reverts to being a member of the team for which he has signed in the previous year. The information package, prepared by the O.L.A., regarding the player¡¯s rights and options (R.47) must accompany this notice of draft. Once a player¡¯s name appears in the minutes of a Junior ¡°A¡± meeting as having been
drafted, then the team from which he was drafted is considered to have lost that player fordrafting purposes, unless not approved by the Commissioner as per R6.38(b). Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article): Having drafted a player, the drafting team must advise the player and his former team by registered mail within fourteen days, with a copy to the O.L.A. office and the league commissioner. If contact is not made in this way, the draft of that player is cancelled and the player reverts to being a member of the team for which he has signed in the previous
year. The information package, prepared by the O.L.A., regarding the player¡¯s rights and options must accompany this notice of draft.
Once a player¡¯s name appears in the minutes of a Junior ¡°A¡± meeting as having been drafted, then the team from which he was drafted is considered to have lost that player for drafting purposes, unless not approved by the Commissioner as per R6.38(b).
Reason for suggesting change:
Housekeeping.
Signature of Junior ¡°A¡± Commissioner: Dean McLeod
Article to be Amended: R6.47
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
Delete.
Reason for suggesting change:
Delete as this is not being administered. Covered under R6.38(b)
Proposed by: Mary M Sticca OLA VP Promotion
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner Mary M Sticca
Article to be Amended: C-IV C 4.00
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
ARTICLE C-IV
C4.00
The Corporation composed of all clubs and minor associations shall foster and promote the game of lacrosse by officially recognizing Lacrosse Week across the Province of Ontario. Lacrosse
Week shall commence the Friday prior to the long weekend in August and run for 10 full days, coinciding with the Ontario Lacrosse Festival, .
Reason for suggesting change:
The Ontario Lacrosse Festival is the largest youth lacrosse event in the World, we need to co ordinate Lacrosse Week with this event.
Proposed by: Marion Ladouceur, OLA VP Minor Box
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner___________________
Article to be Amended:
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
The Corporation will permit movement of players from the next lower age category team in the
same organization in the following sequence:
FROM: A to A (5 players)
A to B (3 players)
No movement permitted from:
A to C or A to D
FROM: B to A (5 players)
B to B (5 players)
B to C (3 players)
No movement permitted from
B to D
FROM: C to A (5 players)
C to B (5 players)
C to C (5 players)
C to D (3 players)
FROM: D to A (5 players)
D to B (5 players)
D to C (5 players)
D to D (5 players)
FROM: E to A (5 players)
E to B (5 players)
E to C (5 players)
E to D (5 players)
E to E (5 players)
NOTE 1:
Members of a minor box lacrosse provincial championship team, whose name appears on thegame sheet for the deciding provincial championship game (and win the game) will not be eligible to participate in any other minor box lacrosse provincial championship tournament in the current
year.
NOTE 2:
If the next lower age category shall cover an age difference of more than two years, prior approval
of the OLA shall be required prior to participation.
Reason for suggesting change: To include new E divisions.
Proposed by: Marion Ladouceur, OLA VP Minor Box
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner___________________
Article to be Amended:
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
MR1.09
There will be an entry fee of $550.00 per team to attend Provincial Championships held during the Lacrosse Festival. This fee, together with the duly completed and signed declaration form (of intent to participate in the Provincial Championships) must be received in the OLA office on or before June 15th of the current year. MR1.09(b)
There will be an entry fee of $450.00 per team to attend Provincial Championships, not part of the Lacrosse Festival. The fee, which will cover all costs (gate fees for spectators, awards, referees,
balls, administration, etc.) together with the duly completed and signed declaration form (of intent to participate in the Provincial Championships) must be received in the O.L.A. office on or before
June 15th of the current year. The O.L.A. will then forward $200.00 per team entered (which represents gate fees), to the hosting association, within 14 days of completed event.
NOTE: Host Gate Fee may be withheld in whole or in part if the Host Association fails to meet all
of it¡¯s hosting responsibilities as outlined by the OLA and the OLA Hosting Guidelines.
EXCEPTION: Teams entered in Provincial ¡°A¡± Qualifiers. Fees for this group will be determined
annually.
Reason for suggesting change: Declaring teams earlier will allow Provincial scheduling to be done more efficiently.
Proposed by: Marion Ladouceur, OLA VP Minor Box
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner___________________
Article to be Amended: MR7.02(a)
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
MR7.02(a)
In order to participate in the O.L.A. Provincial Championships, the Corporation shall rate all clubs and place them into categories (e.g. ¨C A,B,C,D) in the following manner: The OLA ¨C V.P. Administration and/or the Ratings Coordinator will distribute the preliminary ratings
list at the Semi Annual Meeting.
NOTE: All teams will be required to play a minimum of ten (10) games by July 2nd to justify their ratings. These games may include, Zone play, tournament and/or approved interlocking zone
games, (house league games not included) This enables Zone Directors, Ratings Coordinator andratings appeal committee to have factual criteria on which to base ratings and/or appeals. Teams entered at the ¡°A¡± level are exempted. Under no circumstances will associations be allowed to rate themselves without following the aforementioned criteria.
At the Annual January Minor Council Meeting, the O.L.A. Rating coordinator will meet with
Zone Directors to set final ratings meeting dates for each individual Zone.
Final rating appeals meeting will be held on the first Sunday in July with the committee consisting of OLA VP Administration and/or OLA Ratings Coordinator, the Zone Directors, and the Zone
Rating Coordinators. Immediately following this meeting, Zone Directors will advise each association of their ratings. The Committee reserves the right to re-categorize a team or teams based on the appeal process. All appeals of team(s) ratings must be submitted by and with
signature of the Club President, in writing, three (3) days prior to the meeting, accompanied by a non-refundable one hundred ($100.00) dollar appeal fee payable to the O.L.A..
The finalized provincial ratings will be posted on the website no later than the first Wednesday in
July following the final ratings appeal meeting.
MR7.02(b)
Any club, having entered more than one team in any division and which later finds it necessary to
withdraw one (or more) team(s) in that division must withdraw its lowest rated team(s) first.
Reason for suggesting change: The dates change on an annual basis.
Proposed by: Windsor Jr. B
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner
Mike Soulliere
Article to be Amended:R 7.01 (a)
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
R 7.01 (a) Major or Senior, and Junior clubs will have an automatic affiliation with clubs or teams in a lower classification providing the clubs or teams are registered and play in the same municipality.
Reason for suggesting change:
Close a loop hole
Proposed by: Windsor Jr. B
Signature of Club President/Zone Dir./Commissioner
Mike Soulliere
Article to be Amended: R 17.02
Proposed change to Read (exact wording of proposed article):
R17.02 (a)
Clubs must pay fines assessed against them within ten days of notification by the Executive
Director or be liable to further fines and/or penalties for non-payment.
NEW
R17.02 (b)
The OLA shall distribute 50% of all fines collected to the league from which they have beencollected from. The money is to be used by the league to offset the cost of running their program.
Reason for suggesting change: To keep some of the fine money generated bythe different leagues to enhance their own programs.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:28 AM from IP address 74.14.109.122
The league mandating that the clubs adhere to a gamenight presenation policy that would require the games to be offered to the paying public in an organised and consistent manner instead of the discrepancies that fans can expect when they attend an OLA / MLS game. I have been given goosebumps at a Lakers game in the Boro courtesy of the job that the folks do there, or saddened by the echos in an arena with 30 fans with no music and an announcer that really isnt . Dead "airspace" is a no no at any sports presentation these days and there is far too much of it in the OLA these days . I am currently involved in a project in Jr A Hockey called the CCHL ( Canadian central hockey league ) . This league has a gamenight mandate in its constitution that says how and in what timely manner all games shall begin. For example Music Must be played during warmups and a competent announcer needs to be employed to introduce the starting lineups for both teams at all games . Both teams are required to muster along their own Goaline and then each starter is introduced and must take their place along the blueline . The announcer is allowed at this point to include any Bio or the position of each player as he is introduced. It makes the home town fans more familiar with the players and gives a sense of "ownership " to the fans .This is very important when trying to attract new fans and retain the loyal ones. A seminar of all the leagues gamenight personell was made available where a lot of good ideas were shared and noted by those attending. My own part included that an atmosphere needs to be created so that we can attract the newer citizens and their families whos progengy will become the face of Sports in Canada in the coming generations. So far the response from the fans has been very positive and the league attendance is very stable with good numbers being reported in the early going . All it takes is a little imagination to dress up an arena , make sure all gamenight personnel that interact with the public are dressed accordinly in team gear , look after these folks well. A couple of Pizzas at the end of the game where ideas can be exchanged and some back slapping handed out, these are the ones that team operators too soon forget . A good selection of current music laid out in a thoughtful manner sets the mood in a building and dont forget to Pump your sponsors ,people love to hear their name and it makes them feel like they are getting their moneysworth . I hope my contacts within the OLA read this and try to put something in place for the coming season .
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:49 AM from IP address 74.12.43.56
Ron...while you state that "dead air space is a no-no in any sports presentation today" I would respectfully point out that it's this constant bombardment of noise that makes most live games terrible now. I long ago stopped going to Rock games because it hurt my head listening to the same 4 hair-metal songs during play.
I'd much prefer a less intrusive game-day presentation. Sure let's promote the sponsors and announce the starters for games and have some music for warmups. These all add to the "entertainment experience", but please also remember that often "Silence is golden".
As for your CCHL seminar/meeting perhaps you would be kind enough to put some these ideas to paper and share it with the junior and senior leagues at their next meeting? Hey if even 1 team per league does more to improve their game day presentations it would be worth it, no?
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 11:45 AM from IP address 142.245.193.10
No I didnt mean NLL style . The constant music in the background is something that all lacrosse purists including myself are not fond of. What I envision is that all OLA teams be required to adhere to some kind of consistent game night activity script ( with variations to suit each locale ) . I believe that the game needs to visit "Extreme makeover" image wise, nothing wrong with the talent in the summer game its never been better. No I most definatley would rather hear the roar of the crowd and the clash of sticks than be constantly "entertained " .
Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 6:31 AM from IP address 74.12.43.56
These are generally good ideas about improving the game day experience but it's up to the individual leagues (MSL, Sr B, Jr A/B/C) to implement throught their own by-laws, policies, etc. and not through the OLA Constitution. They currently mandate pre-game warm up times, ticket prices, etc. Standardizing the "show" would be good but may not work in all venues. Given the lack of volunteers in some cases it might not even be possible.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 12:06 PM from IP address 64.119.102.172
You mention OLA mandating ticket prices. Do you happen to know the rules (including season ticket offers)? If no, then maybe you could direct me to a source. Tks.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 7:35 PM from IP address 99.231.117.69
It's not the OLA that sets the ticket prices, it's the leagues. Jr B for example sets regular season tickets at $6 per game and playoffs at $7. The teams can set their own price for kids and seniors. I believe they are also on their own with regard to seasons ticket packages.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:44 PM from IP address 99.250.120.36
A committee is working <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />at getting lacrosse organized at Concordia University.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
If you know lacrosse players who are students at Concordia now or if you know of collegiate students wishing to enrol at Concordia (and play lacrosse there in 2010) get their names and emails to me right away and I will refer them to the working group to get this project off the ground.
This progect is a long time coming and it is now progressing rapidly. There are already a few good players at the school and some very good atheletes as well. I hope to see a third Quebec team in CUFLA soon. Thanks goes out to Pierre Filion for taking this bull by the horns.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:16 AM from IP address 67.68.195.195
showing two new streaming videos of two more videos
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Scoring: 140 goals, lead by Chris Nash #13 (22 goals), #9 Mike McLeod, (25 goals) and #88 Dustin Dunn (15 goals).
Defense: 69 goals against. Goalie Bret Kikot sports a 5.86 GAA. The long sticks, are anchored by #6, 64 Nate Reid, and are even tougher on man down.
Pro Factor: Brock has four players in the NLL; Dustin Dunn, Buffalo; Mike MacLeod, Rochester; Jason Winder, Toronto and Dilan Graham, Boston.
X-factor: #17 Devon Sartor seldom shows up on the score sheet, but hes often on important ground balls and game changing plays. #15 Clarke Robinson is a LS middie who makes you keep your head up.
Motivation: Brock was embarrassed by McGill in last years semi. After 17 championships they think the cup is theirs and they want it back.
MCGILL REDMEN
Record: 8 wins, 3 losses
Scoring: 135 goals, lead by freshman attacker # 34 Alex Kruse,(30pts) and veterans #9 Nick Moreau, (28pts) and # 22 Nick LaCava (18 goals).
Defense: 81 goals against. Goalie Simon Hudson has a 6.36 GAA. All Canadian Brendan Farrer leads a fast and skilled defense corp.
Pro Factor: McGill has no NLL players on its roster, but they have 22 Americans.
X-Factor: #16 Sean Simeson is a hard hitting middie , who gets those all important ground balls and ignites the waves of McGill attacks.
Motivation: Coach Murdoch has raised the bar for building a program in this league by recruiting players in the United States and extending full squad off-season training. McGill wants to get back to the final they lost last year to Guelph.
TRENT EXCALIBUER
Record: 9 wins, 2 losses
Scoring: 124 goals lead by, #24 Chad Evans, (27 goals), #9 Mack OBrien (26 goals) and #18 Josh Wasson (18 goals)
Defense: 75 goals against. Starting goalie Kalvin Thomas sports a 7.00 GAA while back up Lindsey Cassel played at a stingy 4.67 GAA. Third year long pole #10 Seamus McGee leads stingy Trent back line.
Pro Factor: High scoring middie Josh Wasson plays winter ball with the Toronto Rock.
X Factor: #9 Mack OBrien scored 9 goals in two games against McGill. He didnt score against Carleton last week, so #21 Joe Stanley picked up the slack with 3 counters.
Motivation: Trent is CUFLAs Rodney Dangerfield, they get no respect. Theyre the little school who can. They defeated McGill twice this season to win their second east conference championship in as many years. With the addition of leading scorer Chad Evans, theyre ready to take it all.
MCMASTER MARAUDERS
Record: 8 wins, 3 losses
Scoring: 102 goals, lead by Carter Williams, #25(22goals) Sean Dechars #18(10 goals) and Mike Bottasso #4 (9 goals)
Defense: 96 goals against. Goalies Joe Tallis, with an 8.75 GAA and Wes Kendall, with a 9.04 GAA have split the duty, but expect to see Tallis in Ottawa, following his big win over Guelph. Macs steady long poles are lead by veteran #2 Shawn Mahoney.
Pro Factor: Ed Comeau, Macs head coach is the head coach of the Rochester Nighthawks. Ed is also the most experienced CUFLA coach in the final four.
X- Factor: Watch for # 34 Joey Cupido a very quick middie who surprised Guelph with 3 goals. #9 Michael Dawson took all the important face-offs in Macs big upset.
Motivation: Mac is this years Cinderella Story. After coming back from a 7-1 deficit in the second half of the Guelph game, theyve got to believe that the all - powerful momentum is on their side, and they can beat anybody.
These four teams are very close and should provide three great games to decide this years champion. Congratulations to the coaches, players and support staffs who have worked very hard to get to this critical point in the season.
The Bank of America Baggattaway Cup championship game starts at 1pm Sunday at Ravens Stadium on the campus of Carleton University.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:56 AM from IP address 216.121.180.103
...fact checking before you post it. In addition to the error on Comeau, Dustin Dunn, Dilan Graham and Jay Winder were all released by their NLL teams last year. Graham has played one NLL game and I don't think that Dunn has ever seen the floor in the NLL. Winder played zero games last year.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 5:10 PM from IP address 64.17.63.198
Congrats to all the OUA teams competing this season and to the Toronto Varsity Blues, Queen's Gaels, Laurier Golden Hawks and Western Mustangs for what I hear was a terrific Final 4 weekend.
Here is a game story from the championship:
Western ends Lauriers six-year championship streak, earning first OUA title in team history
Nov. 1: Western 9 Wilfrid Laurier 5 / Oct. 31: Western 8 Queen's 7
By Andy Watson
HAMILTON, Ont. - The Western Mustangs ended the Wilfrid Laurier Golden Hawks 9-5 in the 2009 OUA Championship on Nov. 1 hosted by McMaster at Alumni Field.
With the win, Western ends Wilfrid Laurier's six-season championship streak.
Western defeated the Queen's Gaels 8-7 in a thrilling semifinal a day earlier after Laurier ended Toronto's undefeated season in the other semifinal, 8-7.
On Nov. 1, Dave Hastings' Mustangs squad capped off a great season with a strong defensive game, allowing just five goals against the high-powered Laurier offence.
Summer Windley (Kitchener, Ont.) made 25 saves in the win.
Goals were scored by Emmi Morris (Brampton, Ont.) and Lauren Crape (Calgary, Alta.) with two each, while singles came from Beth Turowec (Oshawa, Ont.), Nicole Pullen (Orangeville, Ont.), Lindsay Doxtator (Southwold, Ont.), Adrianna Clapp (Brooklin, Ont.) and Carrie White (Mississauga, Ont.)
Doxtator, the lone fifth-year senior on the team, added three assists.
The Mustangs were a jubilant team on the ride back from Hamilton. Hastings said he was very pleased and credited the balanced of his squad.
It was a full team effort, everyone played their best game, Hastings said.
The score at half was 7-2 for Western, even though Laurier scored the games first goal
"We had them 9-2 and we stalled the ball for the last 15 minutes, Hastings said.
Laurier scored the first goal three minutes into the game before Western scored seven goals unanswered, to lead 7-1.
Western first-team OUA all-star Nicole Pullen (Orangeville, Ont.) was ejected with a red card with 25 minutes left in the game in a chippy affair with 10 cards assessed, two red.
Five different players scored for Laurier, and Western held Laurier sniper and goal-scoring leader Braedyn ORahilly (Whitby, Ont.), who had 53 points on the season, to just one goal.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 9:18 AM from IP address 99.250.14.18
DMLL Winter Ball 2010 Lacrosse Program Registration Dates: Thursday Nov 5 and Thursday Nov 12 from 7 pm til 9pm at WISC Dome.SEASON STARTS THURSDAY JANUARY 7, 2010- www.dmlllax.ca
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 10:14 PM from IP address 99.253.58.173
2010 U.S. Mens National Team:
A Ryan Boyle - Boston Cannons (Princeton 04)
M Kevin Cassese Boston Cannons (Duke 03)
D Joe Cinosky Toronto Nationals (Maryland 08)
M/A Ned Crotty Duke 09
M Kyle Dixon Washington Bayhawks (Virginia 06)
G Brian Dougherty Long Island Lizards (Maryland 96)
D DJ Driscoll Chicago Machine (Notre Dame 06)
G Adam Fullerton Denver Outlaws (Army 08)
A Mike Leveille Chicago Machine (Syracuse 08)
D Eric Martin Denver Outlaws (Salisbury 04)
D Ryan McClay Boston Cannons (Cornell 03)
A Brendan Mundorf Denver Outlaws (UMBC 06)
D Shawn Nadelen Washington Bayhawks (Johns Hopkins 01)
M Stephen Peyser Long Island Lizards (Johns Hopkins 08)
A Ryan Powell Big Foot LC (Syracuse 00)
M Paul Rabil Boston Cannons (Johns Hopkins 08)
M Chris Schiller - Sailin Shoe LC (Penn State 99)
M Max Seibald Denver Outlaws (Cornell 09)
M Alex Smith Washington Bayhawks (Delaware 07)
M Matt Striebel Chicago Machine (Princeton 01)
D Kyle Sweeney Boston Cannons (Georgetown 03)
A Drew Westervelt Denver Outlaws (UMBC 07)
M Matt Zash Long Island Lizards (Duke 06)
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 12:40 PM from IP address 209.226.25.124
ILF has strange eligibility rules, playing for one nation does not prevent you from playing for another nation in subsequent tournaments. Mundorf was born in Maryland but one of his parent's is an Australian citizen. As long as you meet the eligibility requirement of a particular national team you are eligible by ILF standards. A player like Huntley could play for the United States in the next tournament if he so chooses.
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 7:00 PM from IP address 99.255.10.71
Danowski's a bit of a surprise. IIRC, Harrison did jack last tournament (at least against Canada).
Still, to this uninformed box fan, this USA team looks stronger than the last edition. If they have a drawman that can do 45% or better against Snider, Canada's toast.
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 8:35 PM from IP address 99.244.179.124
and how many were procedure calls against Snider. In the few games I saw most of the time he lost a draw was because he got called for procedure. Not that those don't count, but he was rarely called on it in the '06 games.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 9:38 AM from IP address 209.29.115.170
Guess we won't know till the games happen; but was Snider called on procedure this season against better drawmen because his pop maneuvre is all about timing the whistle and beating the opponent to the quick draw, because when he gets into a clamp with some of them his possession game is done. Back in '06, against more mediocre US drawmen Harrison and Shanahan, he didn't have to worry so much about timing the whistle...he was still fast enough to beat them and pop it up to himself. Or does the MLL use different rules for a f/o and Snider's techniques just suit the FIL rules better? For Snider's sake, I hope Tom Sutton isn't reffing at the worlds...I believe he was the one that called him on most of the MLL procedures this season in Toronto.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:18 AM from IP address 216.145.102.154
Green Gaels Jr B Lacrosse Club
Annual General Meeting
November 4th, 2009 7:00pm
South Courtice Arena - Upper Meeting Room
The Green Gaels Jr B Lacrosse Club is looking for hard working people to become involved on our Board and/or in game day operations. Those interested in becoming a part of one of the most storied and successful lacrosse teams should forward a letter of intent outlining their level of interest and experience. Positions open for election at our AGM are, President, Vice President of Team, Director of Promotions and Events, Director of Security, Director of 50/50, Director of Membership, and Director at Large. A vacancy also exist in the position of Director of Publicity. Nominations and letters of intent will be accepted until November 2nd, 2009, and should be forwarded to dabramczuk@greengaels.org or P.O. Box #481, Bowmanville, ON, L1C 3Z2.
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 10:10 PM from IP address 99.252.162.22
Su=ince there is not much info on the U19 finals I do know that Niagara is the 'A' Champions with a 3 goal win over Oshawa1 while the 'B' final was won by the Oshawa2 squad with a big win over Beaches by 2
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 9:16 PM from IP address 70.53.57.17
The Whitby Warriors Junior "A" Lacrosse Club AGM will be held Wednesday November 25th, 7:30 pm at Iroquois Sports Complex in Whitney Hall. Any and all interested in junior lacrosse are invited to attend.for more information please go to www.warriorslacrosse.com
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 8:16 PM from IP address 99.253.44.203
My apologies to all, I double booked myself with a Minor Lacrosse meeting on the 3rd and cannot miss it. I guess I need an assistant because I cannot organize myself lately.
TORONTO ROCK 2010 SINGLE GAME TICKETS ON SALE MONDAY
Watch the fastest game on two feet for as low as $14.00 for youth and $27.00 for adults
TORONTO Single game tickets for the 2010 Toronto Rock regular season go on sale to the public on Monday, November 2, 2009 at 11:00 a.m. ET.
Tickets can be purchased for any of the Rocks eight regular season home games through Ticketmaster by phone at 416-872-5000, online at www.ticketmaster.ca, or in person at the Air Canada Centre box office. The entire 2010 Toronto Rock schedule can be found online at www.torontorock.com.
SINGLE GAME TICKET PRICE
Adult
Seniors
Youth
Platinum
$73.90
$73.90
$25.00
Gold
$57.90
$49.50
$25.00
End Gold
$47.90
$40.50
$25.00
Red
$47.90
$40.50
$25.00
End Red
$45.90
$39.50
$25.00
Upper Bowl
$27.00
$22.50
$14.00
All prices include all applicable taxes/charges.
With training camp scheduled to begin in mid-November, the Rock look forward to the 2010 season under the leadership of 2009 NLL Coach of the Year, Troy Cordingley. Over 135,000 fans watched the Toronto Rock at Air Canada Centre in 2009, a number that is surely to increase as a new and revived Toronto Rock hit the turf come January 2010.
Season tickets for the entire 2010 Toronto Rock regular season are still on sale. The package includes tickets to all eight home games, a ticket for the first potential playoff game at the Air Canada Centre, a voucher for an additional ticket on opening night, and a voucher for a ticket to any other additional home game of choice.
In addition to the single game and season tickets there are a number of other ticket package selections available to accommodate every fans need for choice and flexibility. The Rock offer a 10 ticket flex pack, a four game pack and gondola suite packages. To take advantage of these packages contact the Toronto Rock office at 416-596-3075.
The Toronto Rock start the 2010 season on the road on Saturday, January 9 for the first part of a home-and-home series with the Boston Blazers. With the Blazers in tow, the Rock open their home schedule the following weekend on Friday, January 15 at the Air Canada Centre when they host Boston at 7:30 p.m.
For more information, please contact:
Laura Bridgman
Communications- Toronto Rock Lacrosse Club
416-596-3075 ext. 242
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 11:19 AM from IP address 74.12.57.61
If you have been to a game recently and seen the attendance, they don't pay it!
Save your money, carpool to Buffalo, or better yet, Rochester and hit up the Dinosaur BBQ before the game. You will get more value...great dinner, lower bowl seats for like $25, better atmosphere at the game, and just a more enjoyable experience.
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 7:54 PM from IP address 174.117.131.195
Yes, but if you go back to those winning days, even when they first moved to the ACC, the prices were lower.
The prices kept increasing year after year...not sure who needs to be told this...the Rock aren't the Leafs...fans aren't paying hundreds of dollars for a game, especially without an inferior product. And, it's be said multiple times on forums, the atmosphere has gotten worse every year because attendance is lower, less in-game activities that involved the crowd & interaction, etc.
Reduce the prices so you pack the place, atmosphere improves, more people want to go, you get more revenue and then can increase the in-game activities & crowd interaction, and then put more money into the team and get back to winning...it's not brain surgery, or a new idea!
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 9:14 PM from IP address 174.117.131.195
... with some work it can come back. I understand how it works. I agree, it's not brain surgery. Ticket prices are one factor. My tickets have increased by just under $5 since the 2005 season and I can live with that. If anything is going to drive me away it's a bad organization and team that's run poorly. I think the Rock have turned that corner and are getting back on track ... hopefully.
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 9:40 PM from IP address 99.250.120.36
Through a grandparented price from a minor lacrosse package deal, I'm actually paying less for my Rock tickets than I would for Lakers or Excelsiors tickets.
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 10:11 PM from IP address 99.244.179.124
That may be true...and good for you to be getting a fantastic price on your tickets!
But, what about the family that wants to go to games, those that are new to the sport, or just the casual fan? Those are the people that fill the stands and make the atmosphere & game exciting for those attending. It also helps with the growth of the game & promotion of the sport.
Again...with all the good things the Rock are doing now (coaching staff, management, etc.), you would have hoped they reviewed the ticket prices...oh well...just means more road trips!!!
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 7:18 AM from IP address 174.117.131.195
No one seems to have factored in the price of gas to get to a game across the border? and the hasseles at that border too. It goes without saying that it doesnt matter what the sport in southern Ontario , if you dont happen to produce a winner that year you lose some of your fan base , lose for a few years and watch it really suffer ( which doesnt explain the Leafs ???) but that organisation has its own crosses to bear . The Rock have made great strides to improve the product from the floor up . Please dont become typical cynical GTA sports fans and dump on the most sucessful franchise in any sport in these parts in years , just because they had a few bad seasons . To me it was a case of the owners becoming tired of the business and wanted out . Well that has happended ,give the new owner Jamie Dawick a break and let him show us what he and his staff have planned for the coming season. As for the ticket prices , this is Toronto , the building costs a bomb to rent each night I hope no one out there who is complaining is naive enough to think that these people are in the business of Pro sport to lose money.You can be sure with Terry Sanderson and Troy Cordingley running the lacrosse side of operations that there will be nary a dull moment at the ACC this winter . This type of Sports Entertainment carries a price and compared to others is still a great deal . Help the Rock regain their rightful place on your sports calendar by being positive and loyal fans . If you think that you have a great idea that might enhance the experience of attending a Rock game pass it on to them , they are there to please you as best they can . I hope to be entering my 5th season as a member of the Rock game night staff come January a position that I am very proud of. The ACC can be a very exciting or lonely place I hope that you can help me make it exciting once again .
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 10:09 AM from IP address 74.12.57.61
thats a bunch of BS.
75 for a platinum ticket it out of this world, dont try and justify yet. you're right, the ACC costs alot to rent, go play at the ricoh colliseum, 75$ is robbery to see an NLL game.
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 6:15 PM from IP address 76.78.52.40
Gas across the border is a non-factor, you would need to drive or at least take the go train to the ACC, we'll call this a sunk cost. Furthermore, I have never waited at the border on game night more than 20-25 minutes. They plan for this increased traffic.
$75/gold - last time I went to a game by myself.... can't remember. Now the price of my ticket and my wife's, who arguably is not paying for her own, is costing me $150, before service charges.
For the past 3 years, I have held 2 season tickets in Buffalo, just 6 rows up at a total cost (last season) of $240 CDN. Nearly the price of one game in Toronto.
It takes me just one hour from door to the HSBC from Hamilton - Going to Toronto on a Friday or Saturday night, also takes just over an hour, so there is no justification for Toronto.
Forget a winning team - that requires purely dedicated fans. For those niave fans out there, lacrosse (and the NLL) are still growing their market and fan base.
I have not been to a Rock game in over 4 years - Even at $27 for upper bowl, I won't be going until one of the Rockettes is handing out HJ's at the door.
Testy
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 5:26 PM from IP address 142.203.1.9
agree with you 100% i live in peterborough an id rather drive to rochester to see the laker players play an pay 15 american to sit in a seat that would be a platnium at the acc. sure it costs me 40 bucks overall for gas but thats still cheaper then a rock game an its a better team.
watch the rock will fold in the next 3or4 years if something doesnt change
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:25 PM from IP address 99.243.54.227
No one seems to talking about how MLSE is hi-jacking the profits from all the ticket sales in the ACC. Between Tannenbaum not allowing ticket prices in his arena to drop below a certain point, and Ticketmaster having a monopoly on the ticket sale industry, it is a wonder that the Rock make any money at all.
Tannenbaum wants the ACC to appear to be prestigious, although I doubt that he really cares if it is or not, and if he allows ticket prices to fall for the Rock, some of that prestige is gone, and he won't be able to easily justify charging such high prices for other events at the ACC. The other obvious reason he won't allow the prices to fall is because he wants to make as large of a profit margin as he can. You don't need to go to Richard Ivey to figure that one out.
Ticketmaster has a total stranglehold on the ticket sale industry holding the rights to sell tickets in almost every significant venue in Ontario, and although I'm not sure, I would imagine they hold the rights to most of the venues in North America as well. This basically means that concerts, lacrosse, hockey, baseball, and football teams have to sell tickets at the price that Ticketmaster wants them to because they can't go to a different venue because ticketmaster has the rights to sell there as well.
I would imagine that the management of the Rock are not totally incompetent and realize just as we do, that these prices are much too high and that they will not fill many seats on game night. However I do not think that they have much of a choice on pricing, and we will have to pay the amount that MLSE and Ticketmaster want us to pay, not the Rock.
The only strategy that the Rock can have is to build a perennial contender and win a few more championships. This will hopefully create the buzz within the southern ontario lacrosse community that was seen at the beginning of the decade and lead to more ticket sales and a better Tv deal.
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 11:22 AM from IP address 173.33.236.42
I agree that MLSE's cold hand on the ticket price and Ticketmaster's surcharge sure do add insult to the injury of falling attendance stats for the Rock. I'm real hesitant though, to jump on the bandwagon suggested earlier that we should support the franchise by continuing to buy overpriced tickets so management has a chance to rebuild. That's really worked for the Leafs, eh? Fourty two years on from the last cup and we have an all-time lousy team and admission prices highest in the NHL.
Aside from a misguided (imho) thought that the Rock need to play at ACC to give them credibility, membership in the sporting big leagues, why do they play there?? Ricoh Coliseum has enough room, it's downtown, parking is better. The highest price ticket for the Marlies is 42 bucks.
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 3:39 PM from IP address 99.230.226.80
dawgbone, solid point. I am just a wishful thinker I guess.
the point I am trying to make, is $75 dollars is too much to see the rock play. it would be great if thats what the sport had come to , but it hasnt. not sure the platinum section will fill up quick this year. but hey i've been wrong before.
kind of upsets me to see this to be honest. excelsiors vs laker ,8 bucks. better lax.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:39 AM from IP address 76.78.52.40
the hole problem is the price of a ticket, when you mention things like gas an that garbage you gotta take into account people still have to drive to the acc from whitby, orangeville, an so on, which is why im sure people say why not just go to buffalo,when u add in the ticket price with the extra gas its about the same. then pay that outrageous price for parking if you wanna be within 20 minutes of the ACC, most arenas have parking thats no more then 5 bucks. someone might say take the go train.. well it thats still costing the fan money its cheaper yes but still another thing to pay for to go to a rock game.
bottom line yes your always gonna have to pay for parking an transportation, but no were else in the league is it 70+ dollars to watch a lacrosse game. heck its 30 bucks to sit at the very top, the raptors charge less.
people say move to the marlies rink an it will be packed an cheaper, well the main reason it will be packed is cuz it is cheaper. i feel confident in saying people didnt stop going to rock games cuz they werent winning championships they stopped going because of the price of tickets an its only gonna get worse this season. if the games are on tv ya its gonna help the sport but more people will stay home an save there 70 bucks plus parking(20$) and transportation ($15-$50)
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:39 AM from IP address 99.243.54.227
I've gone from having seasons tickets (starting in year 2) to seeing only 1 game last year... I'd love a price decrease. Part of it is the cost (the other part is the associated costs like parking... then there is driving downtown which I'd be happy if I never had to do again).
I just don't know how enough about the situation to worry about if they are gouging me or whatever... I just know what my price point is and if they fall in line with it, I'll go back.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:44 AM from IP address 209.29.115.170
I dont know where you live but an easy solution is to drive to Yorkdale mall and subway it to the game. No parking fees and it only takes 25 mins on the subway.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 2:30 PM from IP address 173.33.236.42
...park in one of the underground lots in the downtown core around King St. Parking is about $5 or $6 all night after 6 p.m. From there, it's about a five minute walk indoors to the ACC.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 5:12 PM from IP address 64.17.63.198
like grabbing the subway at Yorkdale or navigating the PATH system from a discount parking lot on King street don't help the Orangeville/Whitby/Peterborough folks. Sorry, they aren't gonna do it; for a variety of reasons.
The Rock, partly at the hands of MLSE and Ticketmaster have put their prices out of reach for many; they've discounted the elasticity of demand. The time to stop the bleeding is now..not when the platinums are $150 and completely unsold. Exclusivity doesn't come from some imaginary cachet of the ACC. Better to have SRO at Ricoh where the worst seat is closer to the floor than half the seats at ACC. A packed house close to the game will promote the sport, not a snazzy but half-empty arena; particularly if it's empty of the hard-core fans who decided to save their money for a good Senior A game.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 9:27 PM from IP address 99.230.226.80
The comments of many on here regarding the rock ticket prices that they should be much lower or they won't go is all a matter of opinion. The rock are not owned by a NHL team like Buffalo which just wants to fill dates in Buffalo. I checked ticket prices of other clubs websites and the rock in fact are not the highest ticket. That goes to the Swarm. The teams that have the lowest prices no surprise play in the smallest rinks (Buffalo excepted) and pay little rent. It is up to individuals to decide to buy tickets and see a game but by sports standards the Rock offer great value. They still have youth priced tickets, flex packs etc. If the Rock starts winning the ACC will be rocking once again. Abandon the Rock and since they historically have been the highest revenue generating team in this league the rest will fold like a deck of cards. These same players the best in the world play in the summer and with the exception of Peterborough all you great fans never take in a game. The average crowd of a MSL or Junior A game is laughable. So if you won't pay $8 to see the same players in the summer then obivously it stands to reason your not going to pay even a little more to see it at the ACC. It is entertainment plain and simply. This team has put 19,000 plus in the ACC many times so it would only destroy this team to go play in a small venue. And by the way they will still have the same expenses with far less opportunity for major sponsorship dollars and lower revenue. I have my season tickets and they are for me good value and a great night out for my family.
Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:09 PM from IP address 216.191.233.130
....that's the first time I have heard of the First Canadian Place, Scotia Plaza and Bay-Adelaide Center lots referred to as discount parking lots. The fact is they are about two minute farther than the lots outside of the ACC (most of which are gone now) which charge $15 - $20. If you don't like the PATH, go up to street level. When has saving serious $$$ been a Torontocentric solution? Are people from Durham and Brampton etc. that idiotic that they can't figure out how to park in a cheaper lot two minutes further away and make it back to the ACC. I don't think so.
However, the ticket prices are probably high enough to keep a lot of people away.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:20 AM from IP address 64.17.63.198
...what is a real insult is being asked to pay $3 to park at the Memorial Centre in Peterborough for a Lakers game! They even charge the players on the opposing teams!
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:22 AM from IP address 64.17.63.198
The thing that bothers me the most is the 30 dollar tickets to sit at the very top of the rink. if you want people to come at least have an area were theres cheap tickets.. the marlies have end zone seating for 10 bucks... the raptors have sprite zone tickets for 12.50 an the argos have the 7/11 thing were u get 2 tickets, drinks, an something else for 29.99, with the exception of the sprite zone the other spots u sit with these deals are only 20 rows away from the playing surface. the rock need to at least have something like that in the upperbowl make the corners at the top 10 bucks or something like comon 30 bucks at the top is just stupid when i can watch the same players in the summer for 6 -10 bucks right behind the glass
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 4:07 PM from IP address 99.243.54.227
The previous post says how cheap the raptors tickets are and the deals for Argo tickets. First off the Raptors are part of MLSE and have a hugh TV contract that generates millions of dollars. The CFL also has a TV contact and major sponsors for the league Thus both can offer cheap tickets as they are not counting on ticket revenue alone to run there teams.
All you people that are running off to Buffalo sure want to hope that the the Sabres who own the rink and the Bandits never get tired of lacrosse. If that team had to pay market rent at the HSBC arena there ticket prices will be the much higher.
The Rock pay six figure rent per night and don't get any revenue from food and beer that goes to MLSE.
Also for the Rock to be sucessful they have to get sponsorship money and walkup ticket sales. Don't forget that everyone is calling for them we bring back star players. Surprise they cost money as does the coaching staff.
Yes Rock prices have gone up but you are all very naive to think that this is a hugh profit generater If lack of support turn them black, you all won't have to worry about the trip to Buffalo as the rest of the league will not be around. Toronto is a world class city and it costs to run a business here
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 6:47 PM from IP address 99.239.26.247
if there paying 6 figures a night to play there why dont they just play somewere else, because if they keep moving prices up people wont go an they will go broke. i think if they made the top 10 bucks a ticket they would fill the top instead of quarter filling it at 32 bucks.
that goes for the rest make them a little more reasonable like 50 for platnium an they'll get filled they'll make the same amount but have bigger crowds. plus if they make the playoffs they might get 1,2,3 extra playoff games for income.
they could work out a deal with mlse were they could make 10% of food an stuff like whoever is running this is gettin ripped off hard, id rather own the phoneix coyotes
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:18 PM from IP address 99.243.54.227
So a single "youth" platinum ticket costs $25, but youth platinum season tickets aren't an option according to the Rock web site.
A single youth gold ticket is also $25, but a gold youth season ticket is $333.95? (including one playoff ticket) 9 x $25 = $225
Good luck with the season ticket sales.
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 9:52 AM from IP address 173.35.77.128
... really are that different between what it costs to see games in Toronto vs. Buffalo, I think the problem may be partly with the way that the league conducts its business. Having a franchise should mean that an owner has a reasonable expectation that he is not going to be in competition (off the floor) with other franchises in the league. One shouldn't be able to charge too much and the other too little. Using the NHL as an example, both Toronto and Buffalo would complain that a team in Hamilton would cut into their market. Should the Toronto Rock complain that the Buffalo Bandits are cutting into their market? What if the new owners in Rochester, who are well funded, decided to sell all of their tickets for $10 just to sell out every night? I hope the Buffalo fans wouldn't all head down the road for a cheap seat. Surely there are standard practices that the NLL should be trying to enforce.
BTW - I pay $69 / game for 2 seasons reds - 1 adult and 1 student. I've had the same seats since the day the Rock moved into the ACC. I attend enough games of the other Toronto pro franchises to say that's a good deal imho.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 8:03 PM from IP address 99.250.120.36
With this trade and the addition of a healthy Grant Jr. the Knighthawks will definately be a strong team not only in the East but they should compete for the NLL championship.
Posted on Nov 1, 2009, 1:22 AM from IP address 68.151.116.7
Could be a good deal for Colorado as well; Gaijc is really something. As the article says, should be an impact player immediately in the NLL. But it's hard not to like the trade from Rochester's standpoint right away. The Knighthawks certainly shouldn't have trouble scoring next year.
Posted on Nov 1, 2009, 4:43 AM from IP address 72.38.57.19
Not sure what planet you gentlemen are on but it is obvious that you have an eartern perspective. Coming out of the west I see Brock and Guelph both teams I believe aare stronger than the east teams. So adjust your thinking Ontario West seems to produce the Cup winners.
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 2:37 PM from IP address 70.24.36.165
In respond to these messages here is what i think...
Carleton stinks has no chance, just to put that to rest (do not care if the beat a drunk hung over Trent team lol)
It will be Brock, Guelph , Trent and McGill in the semi finals and it will be a rematch of last yr.
Trent vs Guelph Brock vs McGill
I believe there will be some great lacrosse played and my picks will be the exact opposite of last year with Brock and Trent meeting in a eventful final.
Both teams have some big guns and are well rounded when everyone comes to play..
My take on the finals will be that the team that shows up works the hardest and does all the little things will come up on top!
Is this Trents year or will Brock once again come up on top, only time will tell!!!
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 6:43 PM from IP address 24.235.161.73
Trent built up a 7-1 lead and coasted to the win. Not much coming from the Reavens though their goalie was outstanding The margin of Trent victory would have been much more without his fine play between the pipes
Posted on Oct 31, 2009, 9:21 PM from IP address 70.53.57.17
So looking like whoever posted it will be the same Bagattaway semi final as last year was pretty accurate. Any thoughts on who will advance to the Finals???
Posted on Nov 1, 2009, 7:40 PM from IP address 24.235.161.73
Great comeback my McMaster. Guelph went up early and was up 7-1 about 15 seconds into the 3rd quarter. After that it was all Mac. They took advantage of a very soft Guelph D and shut down a very lethargic, yet potent, Guelph O. From a neutral standpoint I felt like Mac simply wanted the game a lot more than Guelph tonight and deserved the hard fought victory.
Very disappointing year for the defending champs. Had a tough regular season and it showed in tonight's game.
Posted on Nov 1, 2009, 11:39 PM from IP address 216.121.180.103
So with the upset McMaster beating Guelph, we have a Trent vs McMaster and Brock vs McGill semi final.
I believe everyone thought it was going to be Trent vs Guelph rematch but McMaster ended the hope for Guelph to repeat as champs.
with that being said, McMaster is going up against a potent Trent offense which is alot deeper than most think and a defense who when is on and stays out of the box can be very good (Trent 12 McGill 5) but when things go bad who knows (Carelton 11 Trent 10). On the other hand Mac is well coached, plays a great system and stays out of the box.I believe it will be a close game with Trent coming out on top!
Brock vs McGill
i would like to say Brock is a shoe in to be in the finals BUT McGill stunned Brock in last years Semis and can very well do it again. What does McGill have up there sleeves for this one? Will Brock continue their success in 2009 and once again return to the final? or Will McGill once again out coach Brock and execute a gameplan to land a spot in the final surprising all in the West with an all East final? I kinda think this is the Year where the Powerhouse in the West Brock plays the Powerhouse in the East Trent (ya Trent) in an eventful final showdown!!!
Enjoy i have been following for years, and this looks to be a Great Final weekend!
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 5:08 PM from IP address 24.235.161.73
Brock has the brand names but don't dismiss McGill on those grounds. They run tight systems and play smart and coach Murdoch keeps the boys focused.
Last year showed what the Redmen can do but this should also should act as motivation for the Badgers.
McGill by 2
Trent vs. McMaster
Trent is up and down. They bring a full slate of NLL talent. With that, there is obvious benefits but problems as well (they all want the ball). Their performance when its for all the marbles speaks for its self, but then again they have only had one shot at it.
McMaster brings a ton of grit and determination. They offer none of the NLL talent Trent does. They battled from a 7-1 deficit against the defending champions. If they bring that level of play for an entire game I think they will take the game.
McMaster by 3
It's going to be a great weekend of lacrosse.
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 6:42 PM from IP address 130.15.196.217
- Brock will learn from their mistakes made a year ago and once again be in the final.
- McGill's offense is to soft to deal with the big Brock defense and will not be able to contain their potent fast break.
- with that being said if Brock does not stay out of penalty troubles, Mcgill Will take advantage and if they get a lead will slow the game right down to try to maintain it (that's their only hope).
- Brock is determined to like they Say "Bring home the Cup"
McMaster vs Trent
- McMaster has played the better teams this year playing in a tougher division, but Trent in my eyes should be put in the same category as top teams in the league.
-Trent has a very deep offense with plenty of threats that can fill the net, also i believe that Trent's top guys are playoff tested (Chad Evans- Bagattaway cups and minto cup, Josh Wasson- 2 or 3 Mann cups, Mack O'Brien Minto cup just to name a few)
- i beleive that experience will help anchor a team that has only been to the Final 4 just twice. McMaster can not be overlooked by any means they play the best team game in the league, are well coached and have been there before so that will help.
- I think that if both teams come to play and Trent can stay out of the penalty box they will reach the final for the first time in their programs existance.
so Brock vs Trent is my opinion
Cheers
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 5:26 PM from IP address 24.235.161.73
and can't be viewed by going to the videos section at either site
"http"//bible-of-lacrosse.com" or
"http"//wampersbibleoflacrosse.com"
1992 Buffalo Bandits, one of the greatest teams ever, defeat Philadelphia Wings
in overtime with John Tavares behind-the-head goal after 35 seconds of overtime. This was the Buffalo Bandits first year of pro lacrosse and hence all those great OLA players were playing their first year of pro lacrosse. What a star studded lineup. General Manager John Mouridian, coaches Les Bartley and Buff McCready. Between the pipes was Bill Gerrie and Ross Cowie. Runners included: future Hall of Famers, John Tavares and Jim Veltman, Kevin Alexander (Canadian Lacrosse Hall of Fame member). Brian Hall (Ontario Lacrosse Hall of Fame member), Darris Kilgour (Ontario Lacrosse Hall of Fame member), Derek Keenan (Ontario Lacrosse Hall of Fame member), Bob Hamley (Ontario Lacrosse Hall of Fame member), Mike Mooridian, Paul Day, Rich Kilgour, Gerry Hiltz.
The Goddest should enjoy Jim Veltman score a nice goal in the second half and him carrying around his first of many North American Cups. I hope to get the rest of the videos up and working as soon as possible. Enjoy.
Wamper
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 6:57 PM from IP address 70.50.112.183
There are plenty of games still to be played in 2009
1) OUA Women's Lacrosse Finals - at McMaster University Oct 31st and Nov 1st. Games are at 12:00 and 2:00 both days. Stephen Taylor, Marisa DiBari, Carolyn Toll, Molly McIntyre and Cheryl MacNeil will be officiating. Who is it going to be? Queens, Laurier, Western, or Toronto?
2) Senior Men's Provincials - At the Hershey Center Fields on Oct 31st from 9am till 6:30 and on Nov 1st from 11am till 3pm. Can Six Nations follow thier victory at the Ross Cup with the provincial Championship?
3) U-19 Provincial Finals - At the Iceland Mississauga Fields on Nov 1st from 9am till 6:30pm. Three division finals and this race might just be too tight to call.
4) CUFLA Quarter Finals Oct 30th at McGill 8pm, Oct 31st at Trent and Brock both at 2pm, Nov 1st at McMaster at 7pm
5) The Baggataway Cup - CUFLA Finals - Nov 7th and 8th at Carleton University in Ottawa.
Come on out and see the best lacrosse that the fall has to offer.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 10:39 PM from IP address 69.158.43.44
Can anyone tell me of any goalie clinics in the fergus elora or surrounding area. I have a bantam age goalie that would like to attend one durring the off season. Thanx in advance. Jim
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 6:21 AM from IP address 70.49.36.159
I was looking at the stats the year I played Jr B . I see the Whitby B&R transporters were a very good team that year . I looked at all the teams listed and could not find Long Branch listed the eventual winners of that years Castrol Cup . What league did they play in ? Why are they not in the OLA list of teams for that year ?
Posted on Oct 26, 2009, 11:35 PM from IP address 74.12.56.168
me right, 1972 was the last year it was called the Castrol Cup and it was played in Cornwall and it was won by the B.C team which was the Victoria MacDonalds. I know I have the program around here somewhere and when I get a chance I'll dig it out.
You are right Whitby was good and although they did not represent Ont. in the Castrol they did end up winning the Ont. Championship
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 6:42 AM from IP address 67.193.24.137
here is the answer, Wamper can help me on this one.
Go back to 1970, Whitby did not win Ont. but they won Canadians. In 1972 they won Ontario but did not win Candians.
Back then as is still the case today, only one Ontario Team went to Canadians, it was played before the Ontario Championship was played. The first place team at the end of regular season went, before Ontario playoffs had started. In 1970 Whitby was in first place in the league standings, so they got to go and they won the Candians, but did not win Ontario. It was explained to me that after they won Canadians, they were not motivated and were all too hung-over to play the Ontario finals.
In 1972, they were not in first place, but still won the Ontario Championship, probably for the same reason as above.
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 9:03 AM from IP address 207.164.171.148
Some of the information sources are a bit conflicting but Wamper's Bible says that Long Branch won the Ontario Jr C league in 1972. They went on to win the Founders Trophy which went to the National Jr C champion in that year.
That's consistant with early 2000's CLA Rule Books which say that Long Branch won the Founders Trophy in 1972 EXCEPT they are listed as the Jr B champion. Whitby won the Ontario Jr B championship in 1972 and I am sure won the national title as well.
The OLA "Champions & Award Winners 1887-2006" states that the 1972 Ontario Jr B champion was Whitby and that there was no Ontario Jr C champion that year. It says that the first Jr C champion was Windsor in 1973.
I played Jr B in 1972 as well and I don't recall playing Long Branch. We did play a few Jr C teams though as part though our regular season schedule. Acton and Bolton come to mind.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 7:28 PM from IP address 99.250.120.36
the Castrol Cup (not the Founder's) was won in Cornwall by the Victoria MacDonalds who defeated the St. Regis Braves who represented Quebec in the finals.
the "B" National Championship was played before the Provincial Championship. Whitby did not play in the National championship.
Cornwall Celtics won the right to represent Ont. in the Castrol Cup by defeating the Niagara Warriors in a best of 5 by 3 games to 2. We split the first weekend in Virgil then they won the first game in Cornwall to take a 2-1 lead and we won Sunday afternoon so we had to play a second game Sunday evening to determine who would play in the Castrol. Yes, 2 games in one day.
Whitby later in Sept. won the Ont. championship by defeating Cornwall Celtics in a series. I remember this because we were playing them while the Canada / Russia hockey series was going on. As for Long Branch, they must have been a "C" team.
1972 was the last year that the "B" nationals was the Castrol Cup.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 8:06 PM from IP address 67.193.24.137
in 1972 there was a Junior C league in Ontario and Long Branch won the championship by beating Windsor in some type of Ontario final. Look under the Junior C stats for 1972. Hell that was nearly 40 years ago and it escapes my memory.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 8:10 PM from IP address 70.50.112.183
and the Castrol Cup was given for the Junior B champs. Better ask Terry Sanderson as he finished in the top ten scoring for Bolton the 3rd place team in Junior C league standings.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 8:14 PM from IP address 70.50.112.183
No offence to Long Branch which produced a lot of good players and teams in the 60's and 70's but if they were able to win the Founders in 1972 against Jr B teams from the rest of the country you have to wonder how good the competition was. May be Ontario should consider sending it's current Jr C champions to the Founders over the next few years. From what I have seen at the Fonders I have attended in this century the Peterborough and Caledon Jr C teams (possibly others) would have fit in.
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 12:29 PM from IP address 64.119.102.172
that 1973 team was the spartan warrior's playing out of niagara on the lake, the original birth place of the spartans, which later moved to st.catharines... still carrying the name spartan warriors
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 2:16 PM from IP address 76.71.95.67
I'm don't know if they were known as that locally in the early 70's but we knew them as the "Niagara Warriors" and that's how they were listed in the schedule. From memory their uniforms were basically orange.
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 3:32 PM from IP address 64.119.102.172
i was talking to Rose Engemann who was president back then and still is today, that they were the spartan warriors.. i'm still young and willing to learn... maybe i'm was miss informed
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 4:56 PM from IP address 76.71.95.67
The 1973 Niagara Warriors, if my memory serves me right they were sponsored by Supertest and that is why their colours were orange. They were not taken over by the Spartan until a few years later. Rose Engeman's son Jojie played on that 1973 team.
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 5:40 PM from IP address 216.121.142.181
Niagara Warriors were started up by Pete Conradi (son of CLHOF Fred who also owned a supertest station). The venerable Spartan organization started up as a minor system that eventually took over the Jr Bs when they started to fall on hard times.
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 5:49 PM from IP address 206.248.157.161
Life threw him a few knocks, but one thing he enjoyed & was realy good at was plying net.
He was really exciting to watch in Junior & Senior.
He had a good stick. Always gave guys short side & would flip the stick up & make the save.
Loved leading the rush, was very accurate passer, and getting guys on the suicide pass.
Tom Moxam
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 9:55 AM from IP address 24.141.175.201
Thanks for the details. I always thought that the Castrol Cup ran from 1964 to 1972. Early 2000's CLA Rule Books say it was only up to 1971 but I think that is an error. They have the Victoria McDonalds winning the Castrol Cup in 1971 and then Long Branch winning the first Founders Trophy in 1972. I think what's missing is Victoria winning its second Castrol Cup in 1972. Wamper is correct, Long Branch played Jr C in 1972. I don't remember playing them at all in Jr B. I do remember playing Niagara in 1972 & 1973. They had a strong team in 73 that went on to win the Founders.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 8:37 PM from IP address 99.250.120.36
Niagara had a good club, we also played them and they had norm and bill hope, mike french, joge engemann and i believe ted greves also played for them.
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 7:22 PM from IP address 67.193.24.137
Niagara Warriors 1973...led the team with 102 goals in regular season....and then later in 1977 NHL Rookie of the year winning the Calder Trophy with the Atlanta Flames
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 11:21 PM from IP address 99.249.225.73
Does anyone have any idea when the final 23 man roster will be made? I wonder how they will gather info regarding these cuts. Only a few of the players are still playing in the NCAA, some are in the MLL, and most in the NLL. Without more time together on a field, are these decisions going to made on how they perform playing box lacrosse? It seems like they need to meet again and scrimmage and play a few more times, but how or when can this happen. The program seems to be run on a very limited budget, the players paid their own way to Toronto. It appears that they may have to wait until the Spring to make these last cuts. I know that NCAA teams all have full schedules, but 'international' games do not count against their maximum number of games. Is this too late to be making these decisions?
Posted on Oct 26, 2009, 1:28 PM from IP address 64.59.144.23
Based on the interview of coach Huntley at the link below, the cuts will be made at the last minute TBD, and the next time the team gets together will be right before the Championships .. around July 10th.
Rumour is Mississauga is looking at a more experienced veteren coaching staff for next season. Having the only win of the season come on a game when the coaches weren't even on the bench, they are in need of a change.
Posted on Oct 26, 2009, 1:11 PM from IP address 99.247.254.29
that the missy A team has their new coach. I do not have any names but I've heard that he coached Jr. B in the past years. And just wondering, how do you know their coach wasn't on the bench for their win? I'd fell like an idiot if I were him lol.
Posted on Oct 26, 2009, 8:34 PM from IP address 99.232.182.221
The Mississauga Junior Lacrosse Association announced their coaching line-up for 2010. Head Coach of the Jr. A team will be Owen Missen. Brett Skyvington will pivot the Jr. B team
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 3:27 PM from IP address 70.26.74.141
Let's face it, Mississauga is trying to make great strides moving forward and good for them. It's about time. Running both teams under one management umbrella is a very positive step, but I would seriously question why they would name the head coach of their B squad as someone who is barely out of Jr. himself? Hopefully there is some very strong support staff to help. Good luck to both Mississauga teams. The change is a long time overdue.
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 2:07 PM from IP address 149.55.30.100
Think of this in terms of a mentoring situation where the 'A' team mentors the 'B' team in all aspects - from player development to the coaching staff development to a common strategic playing style. Instead of two separate entities they have the ability to have a common club orientation sharing expectations, strategic development and so on. They could share staff to a certain extent.
If this works - and I can't see any reason it wouldn't - then I think Missy has a lot to look forward to. I hope that the sharing aspect also includes PR and community involvement to grow the minor systems and fan base.
Skennen
...Tsitshoh...
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 10:24 AM from IP address 198.103.221.51
And there isn't any reason why it can't be accomplished. It certainly won't happen in a season, but the potential is there to finally turn that association around. Patience and strategic planning will be key! Good luck to them!
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 1:31 PM from IP address 149.55.30.100
The whole reason it is being done is to get everyone on the same page. To try and run things with the same goals in mind, as one.
It is an old idea and one that will finally come to fruition. Whether it works or not depends alot on the Mississauga players/parents. Will they buy into it? In the past some of the best attitudes in players have come from outside Mississauga with the exception of a few core Mississauga players along the way. That being said, I truly believe it will work over time.
It will be interesting and definitely will take some time and patience.
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 1:44 PM from IP address 99.240.116.182
Former West Durham Patriot Alumni Nick Thebeau scored 1 and assisted on three goals and lead the St. F.X. to a 9 to 8 over time victory over the Acadia Axemen the onley other undefeated team in the Maritime University lacrosse Loop.
Posted on Oct 26, 2009, 12:41 PM from IP address 70.24.36.165
A little mini series that Messer will be doing, speaking with and visiting with many of the people in the game, past and present.....first up is Wamper.
Sunday, Oct 25
Toronto @ Queen's, 11am
Trent @ Bishop's, 12 noon
Western @ Laurier, 1pm
Guelph @ Brock, 1pm
CUFLA Quarter Finals (Oct 31 / Nov 1)
- #1 hosts #4, and #2 hosts #3 in each division
CUFLA Final Four (Nov 8 / Nov 9)
- the winners of each quarter final will travel to Ottawa to play in the CUFLA Final Four hosted by Carleton University
For current standings, stats, schedules, directions, etc, please visit the CUFLA Website:
Hello All!
Its that time of year again and we invite you all to attend the 2009 Amateur Lacrosse Skills to be held at Copps Coliseum in Hamilton , Ontario as part of the Canadian Aboriginal Festival.
Registration Brochures and Posters can be downloaded at www.canab.com , click on Lacrosse Competition.
WE WELCOME ALL! also you can email me at shelzlax@hotmail.com and I will gladly send you information, the registration brochure and answer questions.
WE look forward to this being a great event at our new venue!
Looking forward to seeing our old friends as well as new participants~
SEE YOU THERE!
Posted on Oct 21, 2009, 3:58 PM from IP address 24.215.57.92
The surprises to me:
No Zywicki, even on an incomplete list. 5 and 1 in the 96 final.
No Taylor Wray or Brock Sorenesen. To most Taylor was a given and Brock is our best young big stick player. This is surprising as this is usually Canada's weakest area.
No Kevin Crowley. A real good two way middie.
Also surprised that some on the list did NOT play well at the camp.
Heard that Chris Sanderson is not out yet as a goalie. If is health is good close the the games, he will play.
Posted on Oct 21, 2009, 11:54 AM from IP address 64.59.144.23
I thought that Card would be on this list. He looked very good at camp. I also liked the foot speed of Dickson. (both rights)
I thought that Keogh, Duch, and Jones were quite average at the camp, and Steenhuis did not look like he knew the field game at all. Corey Small and Crowley were probably better.
P. Merrill and Sanderson have NO foot speed and will have trouble covering some of the athletic Americans.
Posted on Oct 21, 2009, 1:46 PM from IP address 64.59.144.23
8 talented guys left, unless some of the attack can play middie, likely 3 have to go, and you know it won't be JR....and they need at least 1 or 2 righties, so who goes and who stays?
As far as goaltending is concerned, what happened to Peaty, who was supposed to be the heir apparent?
Is it realistic to hope Sanderson will be back?
Finally, are they keeping the 30 players on the roster until next July, like some other national teams, with the final 23 being determined late next spring to account for any unexpected injuries or problems, sort of an "unannounced taxi squad"?
Posted on Oct 21, 2009, 10:02 PM from IP address 24.36.189.161
Points do not tell the story. Huntley's play speaks for itself. Anyone that knows Don Huntley knows he would not just pick his son ahead of a more talented player.
Posted on Oct 23, 2009, 8:47 AM from IP address 205.188.116.145
.... on the subjective standard of play, given that the objective standard of points and points per game in the MLL in 2009 favours Jeff, Jeff Zywicki (leaving aside his 2009 playoff performance which was extended to Jeff who has back to back MLL championships) has a proven track record in International Lacrosse (which is a different game than MLL and NCAA), including being selected All World attackman in 2006... so help me understand Kevin Huntley's International track record and experience....
Posted on Oct 23, 2009, 9:40 AM from IP address 174.142.127.81
I always thought that both of them would make this team as Jeff is a rightie and Huntley a leftie. Thomson, Grant, Brown, Greer, and Huntley are all lefties. I think that Brown will be left off the final roster. In MLL games he scores a lot, but he is usually covered by a shortie. Huntley also draws a shortie quite often. Huntley wins out over Brown based on his much superior outside shot. In my opionion, neither would make this team if Greer was not capable of playing midfield. Junior, Thomson, and Greer are all better than either Brown or Huntley.
What is surprising is that Zywicki is not even on this extended 30 man roster. He is one of the greatest finishers in the world. Some have commented on is lack of conditioning, but have you looked at Kevin Huntley, definitely carrying a few extra pounds. I find it hard to believe that he is behind all of Keogh, Billings, and McBride. Not sure what they are looking for from this side. Zywicki is a crease man and as such plays very close to the goal. (Like Brown on the other side) Keogh and McBride are the most similar, but Zywicki finsishes as well or better and has better vision. Billings can play midfield as well, has the best outside shot, good vision, but is not fond of going into the greasy areas.
So, I don't think you should look at this as a Huntley/Zywicki thing, although I think that minus the outside shot Zywicki is the better player. It is more of a Zywicki being rated behind the other 3 righties. I would have thought that history and the chemistry Jeff has with the team would have at least put him on the 30 man roster. Also thought that Card was the best of the righties at the camp.
Posted on Oct 23, 2009, 12:44 PM from IP address 64.59.144.23
Really? As I have said in the past, I thought that both would make the final roster. I will say this, the 5 or 6 team canada players that I spoke with were SHOCKED that Jeff and Taylor were not included.
Posted on Oct 23, 2009, 8:32 PM from IP address 64.59.144.23
So now that you have qualified yourself as an expert in field lacrosse with your last answer, and by no means do I consider myself an expert (but I did coach Jeff Zywicki for a brief period, played with him on a field team in 1999 and coached Brad Conlon in Midget and Junior box), I ask again, what is Huntley's international experience?
What is the NCAA and International experience of the other righty attackmen who displaced Jeff Zywicki?
I now have answers from you that are mere bald statements: 'All knowledgeable field lacrosse people would concur that Huntley is a better choice over Z for the year 2010', and 'Kevin Huntley is much better than Jeff.'. Given that you are the only here who believes so, this forum is apparently and sorely devoid of experts in field lacrosse.
So, please help us understand your opinion.
How about answering the foregoing and other questions asked with some relevant facts?
Posted on Oct 24, 2009, 7:06 AM from IP address 99.240.175.19
I don't even pretend to be an expert at field lacrosse, but I'm calling B-S on a statement that says Huntley is better than Zywicki.
Z has more years pro, more points per game in the most recent direct comparison example, and has all-world experience. Started the tourney as a second stringer, ended up being arguably the best attacker in there. Was a clutch difference maker in the biggest international lacrosse upset since 1978 anyway.
Bottom line, you'd struggle to win a "Huntley is better" argument on facts alone.
Now, I guess better individual play ain't always the whole story on why someone makes a team. There's qualitative factors to consider - attitude, team chemistry, willingness to accept a role or buy into a system. Depending on the value you assign to each of these factors, you could come to a decision that Kevin Huntley is better for the team.
I guess there's also qualitative factors like nepotism, but I'm not going to argue Coach Huntley's smarts......once he got his pro team going, they were damned near unstoppable.
Last point - like another poster said, I don't even figure it really came down to Huntley being taken over Zywicki. If Z got cut, it was probably more likely due to being outplayed by another righty attacker, or not meshing well with the rest of the team.
All us outside watchers know for sure is that while Comeau thought Z was the best pick for second attack unit with the 2006 team, Huntley didn't think the same for the 2010 team
Posted on Oct 23, 2009, 9:32 PM from IP address 99.244.179.124
ya, who the heck is this mclelland guy? says he made it as an attackman?!
and also, i think the point, some posters are trying to make is; Huntley is better suited for the attack unit. He is a bit of a different look than the other5-6 attackmen. While he is primarily a finsiher aswell, he can also use both hands, dodge , and do other field lacrosse "things" that all the other 5 attackmen struggle with. No question theyy are both solid players, but clearly Huntley was a better fit. I think Mr. Huntley is more concerned with winning a National Title, than satisfying his sons needs. Not to mention, Keogh is probably better than Zwyicki, resulting in no space for Zywicki.
anyways, enough bickering about who is better, regarless of who is better, the team is (almost) set in stone. and we should all be encouraging Kevin Huntley instead of saying he is a Daddy's boy. GO CANADA GO BRING IT HOME!
Posted on Oct 25, 2009, 12:31 PM from IP address 76.78.52.224
As I have said in the past, I think that both Zywicki and Huntley belong on the team, but I do think that some of you think that Huntley is your prototypical American attackman. I have seen him play many times and I have neverr seen him score right handed. That is not to say he can't shoot right handed, but he is not a shifty dodger who shoots on the run with either hand. He is generally a flatfooted shooter who is very good and finding an open spot to get a feed off of a middie dodge. In college that was from people like Harrison, Peyser, and Rabil. In fact because of the prowess of the middies on the teams he has played on, he is often covered by a short stick with the extra pole shifting to another middie. This also happens quite often with Matt Brown. On the other hand teams would never try to defend against Junior, Greer, or Thomson with a short stick. When teams have tried that on Zywicki, they have been burned quickly.
McLellan is not an attackman. He is a short stick d middie. I would think that his position on the 23 man roster is pretty secure as very few of the other middies have any kind of defensive abilities. Only Hall, Billy Dee and perhaps Prout can play both ends, and I would think that McLellan and Billy Dee will be given most of the short stick d middie assignments. During the Nationals playoffs, Huntley also used Hall in this role, but he is probably the best dodger from up top among the Canadian middies. Curtis Manning is on the list as a D guy, but he can also be effective with a short stick. He is fast enough to move with American midfielders.
In 06 Shannon tore up his knee and the team took Lewis Radcliff and Jordan Hall with them to the Vail tournament. From there they picked Hall for the spot. He went on to be one of our best middies, especially in the final.
Posted on Oct 25, 2009, 5:49 PM from IP address 64.59.144.23
Also, notice that Loose Balls are only recorded when Bernie Bernhart aka
Larry's Driver does the stats, that means we only get them every second year when the Mann Cup is held in the East.
Posted on Oct 20, 2009, 5:46 PM from IP address 70.50.112.183
Okay so it is not lacrosse, I apologize. And I also apologize for this little bit of shameless self promotion.
The Globe and Mail (Toronto) has a contest called the Journalism Dream Contest. They are encouraging people to submit a written article, or a picture, for a chance to be selected to attend and cover the Olympics in Vancouver.
I have entered a condensed version of an article about the brawl in this years Mann Cup from BC. The hope is that I can get enough votes to be considered by the judges as a finalist and then they decide from the top vote getters.
The link to my story is below, and you can vote once every day until November 22nd. It does require you to register, but if you can take the few minutes to do so and try to vote (every day), who knows, I might just be able to cover the Olympics in 2010. Here is the link
I know that when the players were contacted, they were told that the team would be announced today. They were supposed to announce 29 players with 6 more cuts to come later.
Posted on Oct 19, 2009, 10:36 PM from IP address 64.59.144.23
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Posted on Oct 19, 2009, 4:01 PM from IP address 24.215.57.92
and neither of them need a username or a password.
Just in case either one of the two sites is down now there are two identical web sites where you can enter the BIBLE of lacrosse. You can now enter from "bible-of-lacrosse.com" or "wampsbibleoflacrosse.com" . Bookmark both so one at least will always be accessible.
Posted on Oct 19, 2009, 2:42 PM from IP address 70.50.112.183
Wamper, do you have any stats from the RMLL in the Bible? I have put together a RMLL Record Book because there was never anything that showed any history in Alberta. We only have stats from 2000 but if this is something you would like to add please let me know and I can provide what I have.
tfdokken@gmail.com
Posted on Nov 1, 2009, 1:27 AM from IP address 68.151.116.7
STATS. If you'll notice I have all the senior B stats but I'm missing the Junior A stats for 2008. If you have more to add that I'm missing please do not hesitate to email me the stats you have at wamper23@yahoo.com and I'll update the league stats that I'm missing. I'm going to be updating the 2009 Robkcy Mountain Junior A league stats next but first off I have a pile of Family Tree stuff that I'm looking into.
Wamper
Posted on Nov 2, 2009, 11:30 AM from IP address 70.50.112.183
The management actually started to put together a decent team and .... can't have that in Guelph so the house was cleaned. Back to the basement. Too bad for the players really.
Posted on Oct 20, 2009, 8:49 AM from IP address 209.183.148.157
Wed oct 21 7pm to 10 pm pick up masters lacrosse windsor ontario ice park.
there are holding an open house and the floor time will be free.contact titan02@sympatico.ca if you have any questions.
Posted on Oct 17, 2009, 11:10 PM from IP address 76.67.95.65
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