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Berserk (knife weilding) killer slain by police

by Nancy

Berserk killer slain by police
Date: Mar 28, 2007 7:32 AM
PUBLICATION: WINNIPEG FREE PRESS
DATE: 2007.03.28
PAGE: A1
BYLINE: Carol Sanders and Mike McIntyre
SECTION: City
WORD COUNT: 1005

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Berserk killer slain by police
Man kills one senior, stabs another at care home

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A knife-wielding man killed by police Tuesday morning after going on a
deadly rampage inside a Wolseley care home had been exhibiting bizarre
behaviour in recent weeks that had neighbours baffled.

Winnipeg police are now equally stunned, saying they had no choice but
to shoot the armed suspect when they arrived at Madison Memorial Lodge
on Evanson Street just after 8 a.m. to find a horrific scene inside.

One elderly tenant -- identified by residents as Alex Kowalchuk -- had
suffered a gruesome neck injury that would take his life.

A second senior had also suffered knife wounds.

The suspect was still armed with the weapon when confronted by police in
the communal kitchen of the facility, which is located in the basement
of the four-storey building.

Police spokeswoman Const. Jacqueline Chaput said the man refused to drop
the weapon, triggering a deadly encounter with officers.

The mental health of the dead killer will likely be a key issue as
police investigate the incident, which will also be the subject of a
mandatory provincial inquest because a civilian was killed at the hands
of police.

Some residents of the building said they do not feel safe because it has
become a warehouse for some of society's most vulnerable, including the
mentally ill, addicts, recently paroled prisoners and the elderly. The
building is run by a non-profit agency.

Some tenants of the building told the Free Press they heard officers
first tried to use a Taser to stop the man, but to no avail.

"I heard three shots -- pow, pow, pow," said resident Chris Shaw, who
awoke in his main-floor suite to the sounds of arguing, screaming and
eventually gunfire coming from the basement.

Police weren't releasing the names of the man they killed, but residents
knew him by the first name of Mohammed and described him as having a
slight build and a normally pleasant demeanor.

Shaw, 37, said he noticed a disturbing change in behaviour from the man
in recent weeks.

"Mohammed moved in more than a year ago, and I'd always say 'Hi'
to him
and he'd always say 'Hi' to me. But the last three weeks or so, he's
been real quiet, staying to himself," said Shaw.

"He would go outside, be out there alone for like six or seven hours at
a time, just pacing around, talking to himself," said Shaw.

He said a care worker at the home recently told him "Mohammed is sick.
He's hallucinating." Another resident said the man was upset because of
a recent court case in which he was the subject of a restraining order.

Shaw described the stabbing victim, Kowalchuk, as a "very cool guy" and
long-time resident who never rubbed anyone the wrong way.

"I've been here four years and five months, and he was here before me.
He was a very nice person, a bit older, people would always help him on
payday get to Harry's to buy some groceries," he said.

Shaw said Kowalchuk used a walker and had difficulty moving around on
his own, which required him to receive home care at the block.

"They would come in, do his laundry, clean his room, that sort of
thing," he said.

Neighbour Gary Chartrand called Kowalchuk a "very easy-going" man who
liked watching the Space Channel in the lodge's common room, and never
had conflicts with other residents.

"He was a frail old gentleman," said Chartrand. "I don't understand
it."
Shaw said he heard the other stabbing victim -- a man he only knew as
Woody -- may have suffered a stroke while being attacked.

Police said his condition isn't considered to be life-threatening.

Residents gathered outside the block yesterday, still stunned at what
had gone down.

Wayne Dorvault said the building's administrator Susan Hall-Amado was
telling people to stay in their rooms.

"Nine cop cars pulled up and they ran into the building," he said.

"I heard three shots and one guy was taken out stabbed in the throat.

One other guy (who was injured) didn't look too serious." The Winnipeg
Regional Health Authority sent its four-member mobile crisis unit to the
building, said spokeswoman Heidi Graham.

"It's traumatic for people who witnessed it," she said.

And for the people cowering in their rooms who heard it.

"He was threatening to hurt someone," said resident Brian Byers, who's
lived in the building 20 years. Byers said he was too frightened to
leave his suite to go to the communal kitchen area for breakfast.

Police initially told reporters at the scene Tuesday morning that just
one person was taken to hospital in critical condition. No mention was
made of police using deadly force or shots being fired.

As soon as reporters left the scene, a police cruiser was taped off as
part of the crime scene.

The officer involved in fatal shooting has a number of years'
experience, said Chaput. He will be interviewed by homicide detectives
and forced to turn in his weapon and go on mandatory leave under police
protocol.

carol.sanders@freepress.mb.ca www.mikeoncrime.com -- With files from
Lindsey Wiebe Police involved in other shootings Tuesday's deadly
shooting in Wolseley bears an eerie resemblance to the last time
Winnipeg police used deadly force.

It was late December, 2005, when officers were called to the Silver
Heights apartment building for a report of a stabbing in progress.

Police arrived to find Zunga Bashir in the process of killing James
David. They shot and killed Bashir after he refused to drop the weapon
or stop the attack.

The incident remains under police investigation and no date for a
mandatory inquest has been set.

There have been other recent shootings involving police: z December 7,
2006: Police shot and wounded a suspect while executing a search warrant
at a home on Jubilee Avenue -- but only after they were fired upon
first. The suspect received a serious hand injury and remains in custody
awaiting a preliminary hearing.

z Dec. 2, 2005: Howard Fleury was killed after a confrontation inside
his family's Alfred Street home. He was armed with a knife and advanced
on officers coming down a stairway, ignoring repeated demands to drop
the weapon. He had also been pepper-sprayed, but it had no effect.
Police say their end of the investigation is now in the hands of the
Vancouver Police Department to determine if procedures were properly
followed. No inquest has been called yet because the case remains open.

z Jan. 31, 2005: Matthew Dumas, 18, was shot after he ignored repeated
orders to drop a screwdriver. Justice Minister Dave Chomiak has said an
inquest into Dumas' death will likely be called this spring.

z Jan. 3, 2005: Dennis St. Paul had just been placed under arrest, but
not handcuffed, in Norway House, when he wrestled Const. Darcy Muth's
baton from him and hit the officer in the head. Muth pulled out his gun
and fired two shots. The Regina Police Service conducted an independent
review of the St. Paul shooting and concluded no charges should be laid.
A Crown attorney from Alberta was also consulted.



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Shooting for the truth

by Nancy

Shooting for the truth
Date: Mar 28, 2007 6:27 AM
http://www.washtimes.com/culture/20070326-103034-4965r.htm
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Shooting for the truth

By Robert Stacy McCain
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
March 27, 2007

In 2000, when Emory University historian Michael Bellesiles
published a prize-winning book that argued that firearm
ownership was rare in early America, Clayton Cramer was one
of the researchers who helped debunk those arguments.

Now, in "Armed America: The Story of How and Why Guns
Became as American as Apple Pie," Mr. Cramer documents the
history of the nation's long love affair with firearms.

The following are excerpts of a recent e-mail interview with
Mr. Cramer, who lives near Boise, Idaho:

Question: How much of America's legal, political and social
views of firearms ownership was because of the nation's
British origins?

Answer: When the first colonists arrived here, the answer
would be "only a little." Gun ownership before 1689 was
tightly regulated in Britain. The usual argument was that
since the poor weren't allowed to hunt anyway, they didn't
have a need for guns. But it wasn't the hunting of game
that concerned the English upper classes, but the fear of
revolution.

America became a gun-owning society because of fear of an
Indian attack, fear of an attack by Britain's European
enemies the Dutch Navy tried to invade Virginia, for
example, on a couple of occasions in the 17th century and
later fear of slave revolt. All of these led the colonial
governments to impose militia duty and gun ownership on the
free men (eventually, only free white men).

Hunting was very common. Hunting put meat on the table.
Hunting was also common to protect livestock and people from
the larger predators, and to deal with pests that damaged
crops. A number of colonies required taxes to be paid
partly in crow heads and squirrel pelts. The primary reason
the colonists hunted, however, was for sport.

The English Bill of Rights of 1689 enshrined a right to bear
arms into English law. By the time of the American
Revolution, English legal books such as Blackstone's
"Commentaries on the Laws of England" described the right to
arms for self-defense or for revolution as a right of
Englishmen, and this reinforced the American experience that
gun ownership was tied to the notion of citizenship.

Q: What was the role of firearms ownership by ordinary
citizens in shaping the American Revolution?

A: It made it possible. It was more than a year after the
start of the war before the U.S. was able to import firearms
and ammunition from Europe, and Britain had embargoed all
sales of guns and ammunition for more than a year before the
outbreak of hostilities at Lexington, Mass. The Battle of
Lexington, of course, happened because the British
government attempted to seize cannon and gunpowder stored at
Concord. Throughout the Revolution, the widespread
ownership of guns throughout the colonies and the extensive
gun-manufacturing industry of Pennsylvania, North Carolina,
Maryland and Virginia, made it possible for the Americans to
take on the best European army of the era and win (with a
little help from the French).

Q: How did the frontier experience influence Americans'
attitudes toward firearms?

A: Fear of the American Indians and sometimes with good
reason meant that every frontier settlement was heavily
armed. Hunting seems also to have driven this high level of
gun ownership. In looking through city directories for
frontier Pennsylvania in the 18th and early 19th century, I
was struck by how every little village had at least one
gunsmith listed even when the village consisted of only a
few dozen families.

Q: Advocates of gun-control laws sometimes argue that
changes in social, economic and political circumstances have
made the Second Amendment obsolete. Why do you disagree
with that view?

A: The primary reason that five states requested a right to
keep and bear arms be added to the Constitution was because
of fear that the new national government might be taken over
by people with tyrannical intentions. The people,
therefore, needed to retain the ability to resist such a
possibility. As James Madison observed in Federalist 51,
"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. In
framing a government which is to be administered by men over
men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first
enable the government to control the governed; and in the
next place oblige it to control itself."

As we have seen in the 20th century, governments have not
become more civilized, more humane or more decent since the
Second Amendment was ratified in 1791. More people have
been murdered by their own governments in the 20th century
than in all of the previous history of man. It amuses me
endlessly to hear people compare George Bush to Adolf Hitler
and decry what they claim is a fascist government and yet
insist that there's no reason for any civilian to own a gun.

Q: Why was Michael Bellesiles able to win the prestigious
Bancroft Award for a book that, according to yourself and
other critics like Northwestern University professor James
Lindgren, was based on flawed or even fabricated evidence?

A: The dust jacket of Bellesiles' book quotes Stewart
Udall, "Thinking people who deplore Americans' addiction to
gun violence have been waiting a long time for this
information." Bellesiles told a story that intellectuals
wanted to hear that guns were rare and tightly controlled in
early America, and therefore the Second Amendment could not
possibly be about an individual right to keep and bear arms.
To have given Bellesiles' book the careful examination such
a startling claim deserved would have destroyed a fairy tale
that the intellectuals wanted.

Q: You've got a master's degree in history, you've taught
constitutional history, you've written other books why were
your criticisms of Mr. Bellesiles' work initially ignored by
many members of the academic establishment?

A: To borrow a metaphor from history, the historians
"circled the wagons" in response to attack by barbarians who
didn't share their vision of a gunless America where there
was almost no violence (one of Bellesiles' claims). I found
that I could flip open Bellesiles' book at random, start
checking claims and it was rare to get through a page
without at least one claim being outright fraud, selective
in its use of a quote or misleading because of what it left
out.

Q: The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals recently struck down
the District of Columbia's gun-control law, which was one of
the strictest in the country. What impact do you think that
ruling will have on gun violence in the District? And do
you think the decision will be upheld by the Supreme Court?

A: It is very clear to me that the provisions of the law
struck down by the Parker decision assuming that it isn't
overturned on appeal will probably reduce violent crime in
the District. Don't have your hopes set too high, however,
because cultural factors are the larger determinant of
murder rates. Boise, for example, has four or five murders
a year in a city of almost 200,000. But we have almost no
gun-control laws. Culture matters most.

Telling people that they can't have a loaded and functional
firearm available in their home for self-defense is criminal
because it tells someone who intends robbery, rape or murder
that the victims won't be able to fight back.



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Fire when threatened!

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Fire when threatened!
Date: Mar 28, 2007 12:18 AM
>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
>CONTACT: Hans Klingler at 512/477-9821
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>Republican Party of Texas Applauds Governor Perry and
>Republican Legislators for Signing "Castle Doctrine" Bill
>
>Austin - Today, Republican Party of Texas Chairman Tina Benkiser applauded
>Texas Governor Rick Perry for signing Senate Bill 378. Senate Bill 378
>authored by State Senator Jeff Wentworth (R-San Antonio) and sponsored in
>the Texas House by State Representative Joe Driver (R-Garland) states that a
>person has no duty to retreat from using force if that person is attacked in
>a place where he or she has a right to be present, if he or she has not
>provoked the attacker, and if the person using force is not engaged in
>criminal activity at the time the force is used.
>
>"Protecting one's family and home from violent criminals is of paramount
>importance. I commend our Republican legislators and Governor Perry for
>passing this important crime deterrent," said Tina Benkiser, Chairman of
the
>Republican Party of Texas.
>
>Senate Bill 378, sometimes referred to as the "Castle Doctrine," also
>creates immunity to a civil action applied to any lawful force (including
>deadly force) as justified by existing penal law outlined in Chapter Nine of
>the Texas Penal Code.
>
>"Texans stand their ground when defending their home and family. This law
>will make sure they are not treated like the criminals who have invaded
>their home in the first place," concluded Benkiser.
>
>Senate Bill 378 was signed by Governor Perry on Tuesday after being debated
>and passed overwhelmingly by both the Texas House and Senate.




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Brady : Another Crock !!!!!

by Nancy

BRADY: Workplace Safety Will Suffer if Employees Come to Work With Guns in Their Vehicles

How do they explain postal shootings and the violent crime problem in DC,
NYC, etc... all places where bans have no effect on a persons decision to
commit crime.

For some reason I'm still under the impression that homicide itself is a
prohibited action whether or not the perpetrator has to go to his car,
house, neighbors house, store, etc... to retrieve any weapon - or even if
he remains at work and kills his coworker by bashing 'em over the head
repeatedly with an office chair.

A rule on paper simply cannot modify a persons actions.








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Read the article: the important point is that they are comparing

by Nancy

Read the article: the important point is that they are comparing
workplaces that allow employees to be armed to workplaces that do not.
The workplaces that allow armed employees include "convenience stores,
petrol stations, grocery shops, bars, nightclubs, restaurants, and taxi
services." In short, businesses with customers coming into the store to
shop and rob.

Employers with prohibitions on guns on the premises tend to be ones like
mine, where there are no customers walking in the door anonymously, and
that aren't open at night.

A detailed breakdown of the murder circumstances show what is going on:
"Of the 105 murders studied, 60 were associated with a robbery of the
workplace and 39 with disputes. Of the disputes, 20 were work related,
16 were with a partner or family member, and three were other or unknown."

The workplace robberies have nothing to do with employees having guns in
the parking lot. Of the 16 "with a partner or family member," unless
you work with that partner or family member, it seems hard to believe
that these were because an employee had a gun in the car in the parking
lot. A bit more detail about the 20 "work related" would be useful.
I
would not be surprised if there were murders were someone got upset,
went out to the parking lot, got his gun, and went back inside. But I
would be VERY surprised if most of these 20 murders were like that.

Clayton E. Cramer


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BRADY: Workplace Safety Will Suffer if Employees Come to Work With Guns in Their Vehicles

by Nancy

BRADY: Workplace Safety Will Suffer if Employees Come to Work With Guns in Their Vehicles
Date: Mar 27, 2007 5:44 PM
Ron Moore wrote:
> If the presence of firearms on the premises increases the liklihood of
> homicides, then why aren't cop shops gory slaughterhouses?
>
> Ron Moore

It's the goodness rays that their badges emit--but only inward.

The most obvious explanation is this: places that are very dangerous for
employees are more likely to allow their employees to be armed. It
isn't that letting employees be armed makes the workplace dangerous; the
workplace is dangerous, and thus employers allow employees to be armed.




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LETTERS: Gun owners respond to Mahmood Elahi's gun control letter in

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LETTERS: Gun owners respond to Mahmood Elahi's gun control letter in
Hill Times
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path/2007/march/26/letter6/&c=1



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The Hill Times, March 26th, 2007

by nancy

The Hill Times, March 26th, 2007
LETTERS

Gun owners respond to gun control letter in HT
Re: "To understand misuse of guns, look to Texas," (Letters to the editor, p. 9, The Hill Times, March 19.). Instead of looking at the big picture, Mahmood Elahi uses extreme isolated events to provide proof for his claim.

Anyone can find anecdotal evidence to back up their assertions but to get a better idea of the impact that something has on society it is always more important to look at the big picture.

Jeff Gardiner
Waterloo, Ont.


* What does the action of one distressed Texan kid have to do with Canadian gun control? As far as I know, we are a very distinct society.

In the last 30 years, Canada has had more school shootings than Texas. Should we be learning something from this fact? Since we are talking about the U.S., maybe letter writer Mahmood Elahi could explain to us why U.S. cities such as Washington, D.C., New York and Chicago, which have the most stringent gun laws in the world are also the most violent cities in the U.S.? Maybe it is because criminals could not care less about our rules, regulations and social values.

Michel Trahan
Verdun, Que.


* Mahmood Elahi should do a better job of researching when he goes on one of his anti-gun tirades. When he says Texas is "the national capital of the gun culture," he should have noted that the 2005 statistic for murder and non-negligent homicide was 6.2 (per 100,000 population), whereas the homicide rate in Washington, D.C. was 35.4.

What Mr. Elahi would never admit is how the presence of firearms actually contributes to a lower crime rate. There may be incidents of rare tragedies outlined in his letter (going back 13 years to find one), but vastly offset by the lives saved by law-abiding citizens using firearms for self-protection.

Getting back to relevance to Canada, legal gun ownership has never been a problem of crime or murder. Our murder rates have been steadily climbing over the last years since Bill C-68 and gun control was implemented in Canada. Given the choice of either having a gun control state/high murder rate like the city of Washington, D.C., or having the lower murder rate of Texas, I would choose the Lone Star state every time.

Lionel Trudel
Vancouver, B.C.


* Mahmood Elahi clearly displays his ignorance when it comes to violent crime and its relation to private firearms ownership. He leads readers to believe that Texas is a haven for violence and uses isolated incidents in order to make his point. However, when you look at the facts, this simply isn't true.

Kyle Erhart
Winnipeg, Man.


* It's clear letter-writer Mahmood Elahi is not properly informed about firearms, which may explain his irrational fear of them. We tend to fear the unknown and are quick to judge what we don't understand.

Mr. Elahi is guilty of passing unfair judgment not only on firearms but on Texans as well. He states, when Texans like Juan Ramon get angry, they "start shooting." Being of French Canadian heritage I would be offended if I was stereotyped as "a poutine eating lumberjack." Unfortunately Mr. Elahi resorts to using stereotypes as a basis for his argument.

We have had a handgun registry in Canada since 1934, yet handgun crime is on the rise. Our long gun registry has cost close to $2-billion to date. The registry did not prevent a depressed and dangerous individual from shooting students at Dawson College.

Mr. Elahi fails to see the point that a gun cannot pull its own trigger. A gun is a tool, used for target shooting, hunting and to protect one's life or the lives of others. The focus should not be on the tool, but on the individual.

Pierre Dupont
Oshawa, Ont.


* I find Mahmood Elahi's letter regarding firearms ownership in Texas to be a quaint bit of propaganda at best.

Shawn Mulock
Calgary, Alta.


* It is inevitable that as long as there are unstable people willing to do harm to others, there will be murders of innocent people, regardless of whether these acts are performed through shootings, stabbings, bombings or beatings.

Dan Smith
London, Ont.


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MIT IS A HIT ........

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. . . The Massachusetts Institute of Technology won the national title at the 27th NRA Intercollegiate Pistol Championships held March 13-17 at West Point, N.Y. More than 90 shooters represented 16 educational institutions, including four ROTC teams. Host and defending champion U.S. Military Academy took second place, and the U.S. Naval Academy finished third. Overall team aggregate scores—MIT totaled 6372—were a combination of team scores from free, standard and open air pistol events.



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Wall Street Journal Opinion today

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Wall Street Journal Opinion today
Date: Mar 27, 2007 8:58 PM
Heat on the Hill
WSJ Best of the Web Today - March 27, 2007
By JAMES TARANTO

No, he wasn't just glad to see a Capitol Police officer, the Washington Post
reports:

A top aide to Sen. James Webb was charged yesterday with trying to carry a
loaded pistol and extra ammunition into a Senate office building, U.S.
Capitol Police said.

The staffer, Phillip Thompson, told police that the gun belonged to Webb
(D-Va.), authorities said. Thompson also said he forgot that the gun was in
a briefcase and meant no harm, they said.

Thompson, 44, a longtime friend of Webb's and the senator's executive
assistant, was jailed pending an appearance today in D.C. Superior Court. He
was charged with carrying a pistol without a license and possessing an
unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition.

Webb, who describes himself as a Second Amendment advocate, has a concealed
weapon permit in Virginia, but that's no good in the District of Columbia,
whose antigun laws are among the nation's most restrictive. Apparently,
though, Webb is permitted to have a gun at the Capitol, under certain
circumstances:

Any senator who has a gun permit and wants to bring a gun onto congressional
property must unload the gun and make sure it is "securely wrapped," [Sgt.
Kimberly] Schneider said. In this case, the problem was that the gun was
loaded and that Thompson was not registered to have it, she said.

So members of Congress are allowed to carry guns on Capitol Hill whereas
law-abiding citizens are not? Wasn't Newt Ginrgich supposed to have made
congressmen live by the same rules as the rest of us?




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New Hunting License Sales Reach 34,000

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New Hunting License Sales Reach 34,000


APPRENTICE PROGRAMS SHOW PROMISE . . . The sale of apprentice hunting licenses in six states brought nearly 34,000 new hunters safely afield in 2006, an acknowledgement of industry and sportsmen's efforts to establish new opportunities for novice hunters. Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi and Ohio began offering the new licenses last year to youths and other newcomers with the guidance and support of NSSF, the National Wild Turkey Federation and U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance. "To see 34,000 new hunters take advantage of new opportunities in their states is encouraging news for everyone in the hunting and shooting sports community," said Chris Dolnack, NSSF senior vice president. "It goes to show that when given more opportunities, hunters are very willing to utilize them. In the years to come, these new licenses have the potential to make a significant impact on the future of hunting and conservation in America." According to industry estimates, if these new hunters choose to stick with their new outdoor pursuits they will spend more than $10 million in the coming year on hunting-related equipment and more than $550 million over their lifetimes. With the support of the Families Afield initiative, 12 states have now adopted laws that provide youths and other newcomers more opportunities to go afield with family members, friends and mentors.



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BRITAIN: Mind how you walk. It could be a crime

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BRITAIN: Mind how you walk. It could be a crime
Date: Mar 26, 2007 9:14 AM
PUBLICATION: The Daily Telegraph
DATE: 2007.03.26
SECTION: Features
PAGE: 022
BYLINE: Philip Johnston
WORD COUNT: 1056

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Home front Mind how you walk. It could be a crime

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Later today, the Commons home affairs select committee will announce it is to conduct
an inquiry into the growth of surveillance in Britain. It is tempting to say this
is not before time, but it is probably too late if the aim is to have any influence
over policy. We are already a "surveillance society''. We are, for
the time being, fortunate that the full potential for its abuse is constrained by
the pluralist democracy in which we live. However, we do not have to look back very
far in history to imagine the use to which such snooping could be put.

In the media, whenever we wish to describe the burgeoning intrusiveness of the past
decade, we are inevitably drawn to one of our greatest writers, George Orwell -
although even he could not have envisaged that, in addition to the ubiquitous cameras,
it would be possible to track everyone from cradle to grave through computer-chip
technology or to build up a database of the population's DNA. But he would have
understood why it is being done.

In 1984, it is about control. The state tells its people that the cameras are there
for their benefit and to prevent crime, but the crime they are preventing is insurrection.
Everyone is watched to ensure they conform. Winston Smith can never get away from
the surveillance. At one point, he realises how dangerous it is even to allow his
thoughts to wander in public or when facing the telescreen. Facial expressions were
watched closely and could have dire consequences. Giving a disbelieving look when
a state policy or a military victory was announced was considered a "facecrime''.
There would have been a lot of facecriminals around on Budget day last week.

OK, so we have not gone that far. But the point is that we could. In the wrong hands,
technology that appears benign can be used to shackle. Within the lifetimes of millions
alive today, there were totalitarian regimes that would have made the most appalling
use of such opportunities.

I have no doubt that our political masters believe the rapid expansion of CCTV cameras,
for instance, is good for us. Indeed, that would be the view of most people, who
seem happy with the cameras. It stands to reason that if you have a camera trained
on a shopping centre, a car park, a hotel lobby or a bus stop, we must be safer.
Well, actually, it does not follow at all. One problem is that cameras take the
place of other forms of crime prevention, such as more police or better street lighting.
You might feel safer and the mugger may well think twice before striking if he thinks
a CCTV camera is about. But they can engender complacency; and if cameras are so
effective in preventing crime, why have the numbers of town-centre assaults and
robberies shot up even as CCTV has mushroomed?

The iconic CCTV images we all remember are of crimes happening, or about to happen,
not of them being prevented: the grainy image of Jamie Bulger being led away by
two boys to his death; Jill Dando shopping before she was murdered on her doorstep;
the four July 7 bombers boarding a train at Luton en route to London. Perhaps CCTV
will lead police in Jamaica to the killer of Bob Woolmer. But even as a detection
tool, CCTV has been found wanting. A review carried out by Home Office experts and
police chiefs has found that too many images are hard to access.

The next generation of CCTV will be far more sophisticated than the analogue video
cameras we have now. The new ones will be smart digital technologies able to "decide''
if a crime is about to happen and focus in on suspicious activity rather than on
everything, making it easier to go back over the images. These intelligent cameras
can tell if someone is spraying graffiti on a wall because they have "learnt''
what normal behaviour should be within their field of vision. Similarly, a camera
trained on a car park will be activated only if it detects someone going from car
to car. An airport camera can be programmed to know what a departure hall should
look like, with thousands of separate movements. A single suitcase left for any
length of time would trigger an alarm. This technology was developed for use in
hotels to alert staff to a breakfast tray left outside a room. Soon, it will be
coming to a street near you.

Why not go the whole hog and have microphones attached to cameras or embedded in
street lights? The Dutch have pioneered a system that recognises aggressive sounds,
without actually eavesdropping on conversations (perish the thought).

My favourite is automatic gait recognition. This identifies people by the way they
walk and the Government has asked Ministry of Defence scientists to develop it for
widespread use. Cameras are programmed to pick up on a particular gait, thereby
making it impossible for a suspect to escape by covering his face. Even Orwell did
not come up with "gaitcrime''.

It is right that the home affairs select committee should look at this, although
it is hard to see what it can do about it. We already have close to five million
CCTV cameras, which is one fifth of the world's total. The average Londoner
might be monitored by 300 CCTV cameras a day. They are not going to be switched
off, merely made more sophisticated.

But the committee can do one thing and that is alert the country to the potential
dangers of putting all this surveillance together - theáCCTV, DNA, ID card, radio-frequency
identification, citizens' database - and linking it up with the rest of the
information held on us. Whatever can be said for the value of any one of these,
it is the combination that makes me feel uneasy. I just hope it doesn't show
on my face.




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SENATE STAFFER BUSTED FOR CARRYING WEBB'S LOADED GUN

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SENATE STAFFER BUSTED FOR CARRYING WEBB'S LOADED GUN
Date: Mar 26, 2007 6:09 PM
SENATE STAFFER BUSTED FOR CARRYING WEBB'S LOADED GUN... Phillip
Thompson, executive assistant to Senator James Webb (D-VA ), has been
arrested by Capitol Hill Police on Monday for 'inadvertently' holding
the senator's loaded gun, according to a person close to the
investigation. A Senate staffer reports that Thompson was arrested for
carrying the gun in a bag through security into a Senate office
building while the Senator was parking his car. Thompson was booked for
carrying a pistol without a license (CPWL) and for possessing
unregistered ammunition. According to congressional rules, congressmen
and senators, not staff, are allowed to have a gun on federal property.
Developing.. <Developing...http://www.drudgereport.com/>;
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Gun bandit stabs teen

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if a gun don't work, use a knife.....
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Gun bandit stabs teen
Date: Mar 26, 2007 9:27 AM
PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun
DATE: 2007.03.26
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: 3
WORD COUNT: 156

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Gun bandit stabs teen Three suspects arrested after attempted mugging on
downtown street

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A 17-year-old boy was in stable condition after suffering multiple stab
wounds in a botched mugging downtown on Saturday night.

Three teens were waiting for a bus near 101 Street and 102 Avenue about
10:30 p.m., when they were approached by three men - one armed with what
appeared to be a handgun, said Edmonton police Staff Sgt. Dave Elanik.

The armed man held the gun to one of the teen's chins and demanded his
wallet, Elanik said.

After the teen complied, the bandit turned the gun on a second teen and
repeated his demands.

But that teen suddenly realized the gun was actually an air pistol and
swatted it to the ground, Elanik said.

During the ensuing skirmish, one of the men pulled out a knife and
stabbed one of the teens several times.

The victim appeared to have been stabbed twice in the stomach, once in
the back and once in the upper thigh, Elanik said.

City cops on patrol responded to the area within moments and rounded up
three suspects.

The wounded teen was taken to University hospital with
non-life-threatening injuries, said EMS Supt. Rod Homeniuk.

Police said the teen victims didn't know the three men, and the
attempted mugging appeared to be done as a random act.

Marvin Payne, 25, Nicholas Holtom, 26, and David Cox, 23, were charged
with robbery with a firearm, aggravated assault and possession of an
offensive weapon.




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VA: An attack by the press (Virginia Pilot publishes CCW list)

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VA: An attack by the press (Virginia Pilot publishes CCW list)
Date: Mar 25, 2007 6:20 PM
Here is every reason to avoid concealed carry weapon (CCW) permit laws.
Not only do they place honest citizen through a series of hurdles and
expense, while not impede criminals in the least. The CCW permits
create a data base for misuse and infringing the privacy of the law-abiding.

http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/110193


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An attack by the press





Bradford B. Wiles

Wiles, of Craig County, is a graduate student in human development at Virginia Tech and a Virginia Citizens Defense League member.




I would like to congratulate Christian Trejbal on his ability to not only obtain public information from the government, but also publish it online. As a proud, published concealed handgun permit (CHP) holder, I had no issue with my name being in the list. Most everyone I know is well aware of my exercising my right to keep and bear arms.

I was not "outed" by the list published by The Roanoke Times, but there were others who were.

These individuals needed to obtain a CHP for the specific purpose of being able to defend themselves against a known attacker, usually an estranged ex-spouse or ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend. Many of these people have gone to great lengths to protect themselves from discovery by these people, yet Trejbal has the lack of foresight to post their names and addresses for all to see.

While I realize that the information contained in a CHP application is public record, there is a difference between having to go through the effort to find the information and having it readily available at your fingertips.

Regardless, this is public information and if he really wants to, he can publish it. I have to question the wisdom of someone intentionally angering those people known to be armed, but the flip side is that those are the people he needs to worry about the least.

CHP holders are far less likely to engage in any crime than the general public, and far less likely to engage in violent crime with a gun than the general population.

In short, CHP holders are generally the good guys -- they have gone through the background check, provided their information to the government and have taken the time to get training on safe firearm practices.

Regardless of his flagrant abuse of the First Amendment by publishing the names of all Virginia CHP holders, Trejbal's likening CHP holders to sex offenders is unconscionable. "A state that eagerly puts sex offender data online complete with an interactive map could easily do the same with gun permits, but it does not."

To clarify, there is at least one good reason to provide sex offender data, namely sex offenders have committed a crime deemed especially heinous. CHP holders are the antithesis of this: They are law-abiding citizens. Do we need a list of people who exercise the rights afforded them by the U.S. Constitution?

Maybe we need a database of all people who use the First Amendment. I think I would rather have my children surrounded by a community of CHP holders than surrounded by a community of reporters, especially those reporters with questionable integrity (i.e. those who might "out" law-abiding citizens' CHP status).

I find it painful that the author pleads that this was all in the name of open government. If it weren't so conniving and hurtful to those whose confidentiality is of paramount importance, this would be laughable.

If he wants to expose the government, then expose it, but exposing government records of the public is not open government. It's more like snooping into private citizens' lives.

If he had wanted to publish all of the holders of public office with CHPs then that might be closer to the credo of open government. As it stands, it's just plain rude.

The author's opinion is that people have a right to know. If, as the author puts it, "Parents might like to know if a member of the car pool has a pistol in the glove box," what's the harm in just asking them?

In addition, the statement, "Employers might like to know if employees are bringing weapons to the office" is a false assertion. Just because one has a CHP does not mean that he or she violates company or school policies by carrying a gun. Again, if you want to find out if someone is armed, the polite and civil thing to do is ask.

Finally, I take issue with the author's assertion, "There are plenty of reasons to question the wisdom of widespread gun ownership, too." Yes, I am sure that the Founding Fathers' wisdom needs to be questioned, particularly when they made a specific provision for gun ownership.

The Washington, D.C., Circuit Court of Appeals recently questioned the wisdom of widespread gun prohibition, and struck down the 1976 D.C. gun ban. However, since we are in the mood for questioning, then I have to question the wisdom of widespread authoring and publication of articles that are clearly inflammatory.




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Lax gun laws ?!?!?!? or Lax CRIMINAL laws: aka Justice sytem?????

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1% of the population commits crimes! The same people committing crimes over and over and over and over and over..........
Rehabilition? I don't think so.... keep these low lifes where they belong / Punish the criminals and you won't have to INFRINGE on law abiding gunwners !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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2nd stick-up hurts

FLORENCE – A day after being sentenced to 10 years in prison for robbery and talking a judge into allowing him to stay free for a few days to help a friend, a Crescent Springs man was facing another robbery charge.

Robert E. Maxwell, 18, is accused of robbing the Speedway gasoline station in the 7000 block of Burlington Pike (Ky. 18) about 5 a.m. Thursday, using a gun he stole in a burglary the evening before, police say.

A man entered the gas station, pointed the gun at the clerk and asked for cash, Florence police Capt. Linny Cloyd said. The man fled on foot with a small amount of money. Maxwell was arrested a mile away about 7:30 a.m., Cloyd said.




Just hours earlier, Maxwell was sentenced to 10 years in prison after he pleaded guilty in Boone Circuit Court to robbing the Speedway gas station on U.S. 42 in June.

Instead of going straight to prison, Maxwell asked for a few days to help a friend who he said had been in a car accident, Boone Commonwealth’s Attorney Linda Tally Smith said. Senior Judge Kevin Horne granted the request over prosecutors’ objections, Smith said

Maxwell was released on a $50,000 property bond posted by his grandfather and sentenced to home incarceration after he agreed to turn himself in March 30 to begin serving the sentence.

Police say Maxwell stole a shotgun from a home on Dorcas Avenue Wednesday evening, used it to rob the gas station, then returned to the Dorcas Avenue area, where police found and arrested him.

“He immediately asked for an attorney,” Cloyd said.

Maxwell is being held in Boone County jail on charges of first-degree robbery in the first degree and first-degree burglary, in the first degree, both class B felonies punishable by between 10 to and 20 years in prison.

Neither bond nor an arraignment date had been set as of Thursday evening, but Cloyd said it was unlikely Maxwell would be released on bond this time. A deputy at the Boone County jail said he’d likely be arraigned Friday via video.

In the June robbery, police said Maxwell threatened to “kill everyone” in the U.S. 42 Speedway if the clerk did not give him money, although he did not have a gun.

Because a gun was used in Thursday’s robbery, if convicted Maxwell would be considered a repeat felony offender. Smith said he would likely face a tougher sentence to be served consecutively with his current sentence.

No injuries were reported in either burglary.



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Suicides -will gun control stop them?

by Nancy

they didn't stop this one!!!!

.......Maybe we should ban bridges and other high places
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Principal kills herself

UNION TWP. – Eileen M. Murphy, who has been principal at the West Clermont School District’s Summerside Elementary School for 10 years, jumped to her death Thursday afternoon from a bridge more than 200 feet high over the Little Miami River in Turtlecreek Township, authorities said.

Her apparent suicide shocked and saddened those connected with West Clermont Schools. Summerside Elementary School was closed today. A crisis team met with the school’s staff early this morning.

Turtlecreek Township EMS recovered the 55-year-old woman’s body about three-quarters of a mile downstream from the Jeremiah-Morrow Bridge.


She jumped from that bridge at 4:42 p.m. Thursday after abandoning her car in the right lane of northbound Interstate 71, the Ohio State Highway Patrol said. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

“Ms. Murphy’s death is a huge loss to the West Clermont community,” Dr. Gary Brooks, district superintendent, said in a statement today. “She was an outstanding leader and beloved by her staff, colleagues, parents and students.”

Brooks said Murphy had been planning to retire in two years.

“Although the circumstances of her death were tragic,” he wrote in a letter sent today to parents of Summerside students, “we are focusing on the positives of Ms. Murphy’s life.”

Murphy served as assistant principal at Amelia Middle School before becoming the Summerside principal.

Before that, she was a speech therapist in the Milford School District and a supervisor at the Clermont County Educational Service Center.

Summerside Elementary School will reopen Monday. A crisis team will be available at the school to students, parents and staff throughout next week.



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OR THIS ONE EITHER.

by nancy

Suicide Vicitim: "He bought a gun and took the
safety course required to have it licenced."

The Lethbridge Herald
Front, Friday, October 24, 2003, Page A1 By SHERRI GALLANT Lethbridge
Herald

When his wife and children were killed in a collision on the jail road
last year, Mircea (pronounced Meer-cha) Musca told his friends he felt
as though his own soul died along with them.

In fact, Mircea's pain was so deep, so throbbing and unrelenting, that
six months of grief counselling and the constant support of loving
friends could do nothing to numb it.

Eventually, this new Canadian, a professor of veterinary medicine, an
intelligent, gentle and passionate person, set about quietly putting his
affairs in order. He appointed an executor to his will. He bought a gun
and took the safety course required to have it licenced. Mircea, who
came with his family from Romania to Canada in 1999, adored his chosen
country. He was careful to follow the rules.

Friends said he seemed more cheerful in the days leading up to his
death.
Those who work in suicide prevention have seen this too; when a person
truly wants to die, they are methodical but secretive with their plans
and, once the decision is made, they feel their burden lifting.

His body was found in his home on a Tuesday, Oct. 14, just after the
Thanksgiving weekend. Mircea left the briefest of notes, saying simply
that he couldn't go on; that he was sorry.

Mircea's sister, Mariana, came from Romania to help sort through her
brother's things and attend his funeral. She came, too, when Elena and
the children died in August of last year. This past April, Mircea
visited Mariana, bringing the cremated remains of his family with him to
Romania for burial. His last wish was to be cremated and entombed there
with them.

Mircea's dear friends from Lethbridge, John and Lydia Pater - also
Romanian immigrants - tried to be there for him as he reeled from his
loss. There were others, too. He was well-liked. Sometimes they stayed
with him into the wee hours, until he fell asleep. They spoke to him of
the comfort of God, but Mircea rejected Christianity. He was angry with
God for taking away his reason for living. Still, they kept trying.

When Elena and the children were killed, a Romanian priest from Calgary
presided over the funeral services. Father Vasile Moisi had just arrived
in Canada. The Musca family tragedy was the first service he would
conduct in his new homeland.

"That's how I met Mircea," Moisi said Friday, having come from St.
Andrew's Romanian Orthodox Church in Calgary to co-officiate at Mircea's
funeral.
"And then we became friends." Because the death was by suicide, the
young priest needed special permission to attend.

"I hope his soul is with his family," Moisi said. "I'm not sure,
but I
hope.
Pray for him, pray for his soul."

Pastor Barry Siefert of Park Meadows Baptist Church in Lethbridge led
Friday's service for Mircea, saying to live through the troubles that
life can bring as "overcomers," we must unite our lives with Jesus.

"We may not agree with what he has done, but we can certainly understand
what brought him to that place," Siefert said. "He had good friends and
a good job, but at the end of the day it couldn't take away his pain. He
was left with an empty house and a heavy heart."


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Suicide Methods in 2003: 35% hanging, 22% overdose, 18% firearms

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Suicide Methods in 2003: 35% hanging, 22% overdose, 18% firearms
Date: Mar 26, 2007 9:34 AM
PUBLICATION: The Calgary Sun
DATE: 2007.03.25
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: 37
BYLINE: CENTRE FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION
WORD COUNT: 40

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Alberta suicide facts

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- Total number of suicides (1999-2003): 2,233.

- Average number of suicides per year (1999-2003): 440.

- Male-to-female ratio of nearly three-to-one.

- Alberta average rate of suicide per 100,000 (1999-2003): 22.4.
National average rate of suicide per 100,000 (1999-2003): 17.9.

- Most at-risk: 35-55 year-olds.

- Methods in 2003: 35% hanging, 22% overdose, 18% firearms, 12% carbon
monoxide poisoning.

- Men most likely to hang, women most likely to overdose.




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Run on guns in New Orleans: Post-Katrina crime wave sparks sales

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Run on guns in New Orleans: Post-Katrina crime wave sparks sales
Date: Mar 24, 2007 10:01 AM
PUBLICATION: Calgary Herald
DATE: 2007.03.24
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: A20
DATELINE: NEW ORLEANS
SOURCE: The Associated Press
WORD COUNT: 321

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Run on guns in New Orleans: Post-Katrina crime wave sparks sales

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Sixty-four-year-old Vivian Westerman rode out hurricane Katrina in her
19th-century house. So terrible was the experience that she wanted two
things before the 2006 season arrived: a backup power source and a gun.

"I got a 6,000-watt generator and the cutest little Smith and Wesson,
snub-nose .38 you ever saw," she boasted. "I've never been more
confident."

People across New Orleans are arming themselves -- not only against the
possibility of another storm bringing anarchy, but against the violence
that has engulfed the metropolitan area in the 19 months since Katrina,
making New Orleans the nation's murder capital.

The number of permits issued to carry concealed weapons is running twice
as high as it was before Katrina -- this, in a city with only about half
its pre-storm population of around 450,000. Attendance at firearms
classes and hours logged at shooting ranges also are up, according to
the gun industry.

Gun dealers who saw sales shoot up during the chaotic few months after
Katrina say sales are still brisk, and the customers are a cross-section
of the population -- doctors, lawyers, bankers, artists, laborers,
stay-at-home moms.

"People are in fear of their lives. They're looking for ways to feel
safe again," said Mike Roniger, manager of Gretna Gunworks in Jefferson
Parish.

Citizens, the tourism industry, police and politicians officials have
been alarmed by the wave of killings in New Orleans, with 162 in 2006
and 37 so far this year.

A Tulane University study put the city's 2006 homicide rate at 96
slayings per 100,000 people, the highest in the United States.

National Guardsmen and state police are patrolling the streets of New
Orleans. In neighbouring Jefferson Parish, which posted a record 66
homicides in 2006, the sheriff sent armoured vehicles to protect
high-crime neighbourhoods.

In New Orleans, police have accused the district attorney of failing to
prosecute many suspects. Prosecutors have accused the police of not
bringing them solid cases.

In New Orleans, the number of concealed-carry permits issued jumped from
432 in 2003-04 to 832 in 2005-06. In Jefferson Parish, 522 permits were
issued in 2003-04, and 1,362 in 2005-06.




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Question: What happens when you bring a sledgehammer to a gun fight?

by Armed citizens Deter crime and save lives !

Answer: You LOSE!
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Burglar with sledgehammer, homeowner with gun...
Date: Mar 24, 2007 9:36 PM
The quote that the majority of instances in which a citizen
with a gun is faced with the threat of violent crime, are
thwarted by the mere display of the firearm. Shooting is
not necessary. This is supported the by research of criminologist
Dr. Gary Kleck Click here: Gary Kleck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Slain intruder shot five times
Man tells police he was attacked with sledgehammer
BY JENNIFER BAKER AND JANICE MORSE | JBAKER@ENQUIRER.COM AND
JMORSE@ENQUIRER.COM

HAMILTON -- Jamie Buck was asleep early Friday when a
sledgehammer shattered his side door’s window and a stranger
burst into his rented home, demanding money or jewelry.

That was the last demand Millard Brandenburg would ever
make.

Brandenburg, 31, was shot to death inside Buck’s Bishop
Avenue home early Friday, seven weeks after Brandenburg’s
latest release from jail. A preliminary investigation
suggests the shooting was justified, authorities say.

Buck, who told police he was hit in the head with the
sledgehammer, was treated at Fort Hamilton Hospital. He
told police in a 911 call that he shot the intruder.

Brandenburg suffered a fatal gunshot to the head, three
shots in the chest and a fifth shot in the left side, Butler
County Coroner Richard Burkhardt said.

Brandenburg tested positive for alcohol use; tests showing
his blood-alcohol level and any other drugs were being
processed, the coroner said.

The deadly encounter between Buck and Brandenburg follows a
similar incident in Covington earlier this week, in which a
man fatally shot an acquaintance. In the Hamilton case,
Buck told police the intruder was a stranger.

So far, it appears both men were acting in self-defense and
are unlikely to face charges, authorities said.

But that’s not always the case. Damon Lloyd, 39, goes on
trial Monday in Warren County. He is charged with voluntary
manslaughter for shooting David Brian Richardson, 46, in the
side yard of his Turtlecreek Township home last fall.

Alan Gottlieb, president of KeepAndBearArms.com, said many
home invasions end quietly when a gun-toting resident scares
away the intruder.

“The only cases that get any news are the ones where the
police are called up and there’s blood on the floor,” he
said.

In the Hamilton case, Buck, 33, appears to have been
defending himself, said Butler County Prosecutor Robin
Piper.

But Piper said he is waiting for police to finish
investigating before he decides what to do. If the
investigation upholds Buck’s account of self-defense, Piper
could file no charges – or he could let a grand jury decide.

Buck, who works as a roofer, called 911 and calmly told
police: “This guy broke into my house…He tried to kill me
with a sledgehammer, sir…He is lying dead in my kitchen.”

Lee North, a 34-year-old friend of Buck, came out of Buck’s
home Friday morning and said, “That dude died right there on
the kitchen floor. The whole kitchen’s blood.”

North said he saw a trail of blood from the kitchen to a
bedroom.

Buck was wearing a white bandage around his head when he
came home around 9:30 a.m. to get some belongings.

“Everything’s fine. I’m OK. Thank you,” he said, waving
off news reporters as he climbed into a relative’s van.

A next-door neighbor, Chris Perkins, said he heard a loud
bang followed by four gunshots.

Perkins’ wife, Lucinda, described Buck as “very fun, very
friendly…I have no idea why they would pick on him.”

Brandenburg lived with his mother on 6th Street in Hamilton.

During the past decade, he had been cited into Hamilton
Municipal Court on more than two dozen offenses including
traffic citations, ethnic intimidation, assault, resisting
arrest and forgery.

Brandenburg served two state prison terms; for a drug
conviction and failing to pay child support. He was last
released from prison in May, but was locked up in
Resolutions, Butler County’s minimum security jail, from
July 12 until Feb. 2 for failing to comply with police
orders, officials said.

As of late Friday, officials weren’t saying if they knew
what led Brandenburg to Buck’s doorstep.



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Comment on this story... What would you do?

by Nancy



What would you do if an intruder entered your home?
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/comments/threadView.asp?threadid=204


me: I'd pull a firearm and use it IF I had to !!!!!!!!

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Self defense IS a RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I know I am a guy but you ladies warm my american heart!

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I'm Lou. I know I am not a woman but I am a red blooded american whos family bled under this flag to preserve our rights and am damn proud of it! It doesn't matter if they bled in Iraq, Nam, WWII or in 1865 or in 1776. Blood is a currency that NEVER loses its value! I can't F!@#$ng stand political correctness as it is the weaklings way of avoiding calling a spade a spade. Feel free to write me. Don't forget to check out my cafe press site at http://www.cafepress.com/uheardmee. I have a new tee shirt design that might be of interest. There will be more in the future but my basic account only allows for 1 design per item. there are items for ladys too. I am just starting so bear with me. Keep up the fight ladies, show em that not all women support BS gun control. God bless and remember the fallen.

Your humble and somewhat eccentric male ally,

Lou.

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Hey Lou,

by WAGC

Thanks for your support. Proud to have it!

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Concealed carry training

by Nancy

http://www.pfc-guns.com/?gclid=CKC-n6PHjIsCFQIyZQodSEdVUw

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Second Amendment Print...............

by Nancy

http://www.toddapjones.com/gpage1.html




More Than Just Words



At no point in American history has the debate over “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” been more important than it is today.



I ask, sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most efficient way to enslave them.


- Samuel Adams

Now, brought boldly forth in stunning reproduction, the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America can take it’s proud place in your home.

Nationally renowned Master Lettering Artist Todd apJones and Handworx, the Handlettering Company of America, celebrate over two hundred years of “the right of people to keep and bear arms.” This magnificent print captures the spirit of our Founding Fathers and contains in its entirety the Second Amendment as written by James Madison in 1791. Created entirely by hand, the superior quality of the overall design is matched only bu its exquisitely rich and flawless detail. This inspiring premier piece is a tribute to our nations heritage and a testament to the future of all Americans who uphold the fundamental rights, traditions and beliefs our Founding Fathers fought so hard to protect.


This masterful rendering is now available to the public in both signed and unsigned prints. This is a Limited Edition printing. Only 2800 were ever printed and the plates and film have been destroyed.


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Actual print size approx. 17” x 24"




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Misreading a Landmark Gun Case

by Nancy

Misreading a Landmark Gun Case
Thursday, March 22, 2007; Page A20

Click here: Misreading a Landmark Gun Case - washingtonpost.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/21/AR2007032101988.html

The March 10 editorial "Dangerous Ruling" -- decrying the decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit requiring the District to respect Second Amendment rights -- rested on a mistaken view of the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller. The Supreme Court characterized the "militia" as ordinary citizens "bearing arms supplied by themselves."

The court never questioned that Jack Miller enjoyed an individual right to arms. The court asked only whether a sawed-off shotgun was a type of gun whose possession was guaranteed to Mr. Miller by the Second Amendment.

Less forgivable is Erwin Chemerinsky's argument that a law can be constitutional if it "reasonably" forbids the exercise of a constitutional right ["A Well-Regulated Right to Bear Arms," op-ed, March 14].

Laws infringing upon rights specifically mentioned in the Constitution are presumptively invalid. Moreover, there cannot both be a right to do something and an absolute prohibition on the exercise of that right. The government can no more ban handguns across-the-board than it can ban all religion, even if it believes doing so would be desirable.

Finally, there is the creative use of statistics by Cathy Lanier, acting chief of the Metropolitan Police Department, and Vincent Schiraldi, director of D.C.'s Youth Rehabilitation Services, in their March 15 op-ed, "Give Us Back Our Gun Law." They attributed drops in the number of District juveniles arrested for homicide to restrictions imposed on law-abiding citizens elsewhere. But correlation is not causation. A better explanation is the police department's embarrassingly shrinking homicide closure rate. The rate of violent crime in the District has only recently declined to pre-ban levels.

ALAN GURA


Alexandria

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp
dyn/content/article/2007/03/21/AR2007032101988.html

The writer is lead counsel for the plaintiffs in the D.C. gun-ban case, Parker v. District of Columbia


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CCRKBA Says Illinois Legislature May As Well &#145;Invite The Criminals&#146;

by Nancy

CCRKBA Says Illinois Legislature May As Well ‘Invite The Criminals’
Date: Mar 23, 2007 5:02 PM




NEWS RELEASE
CCRKBA SAYS ILLINOIS LEGISLATURE MAY AS WELL ‘INVITE THE CRIMINALS’
BELLEVUE, WA – After the Illinois State House of Representatives passed out of committee a string of anti-gun bills aimed at further eroding gun rights in the Prairie State, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) suggested that Chicago-dominated lawmakers ought to just put out a welcome sign for criminals at the state border.

Anti-gun schemes headed for floor debate include gun rationing, restrictive handgun dealer licensing and a ban on semiautomatic sport-utility rifles. Such a ban could put several Illinois-based firearms manufacturers out of business, or force them to move their businesses to other states.

Lawmakers behind these bills include three Chicago Democrats, Harry Osterman, Edward J. Acevedo and Luis Arroyo, and Oak Park Democrat Deborah L. Graham.

“This kind of nonsense infuriates gun owners,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan M. Gottlieb. “Lawmakers from Chicago want to export their anti-gun philosophy throughout the state. Of course, it’s pretty clear that Chicago’s gun control policies have been a dismal failure for years.

“Mayor Richard Daley’s puppet lawmakers,” Gottlieb added, “seem to be telling Illinois voters ‘Hey, our ideas haven’t worked in Chicago, so we want them to not work all over the state.’ Their strategy must be to pass laws doomed to failure so that they can come back next year and pass more laws that will fail even more miserably. All the while, they are eroding the rights of law-abiding Illinois gun owners and doing nothing to prevent real criminals from committing more crimes.”

CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron said it is “pretty clear the Daley delegation wants to make the entire state of Illinois a safe haven for thugs” so he proposed a nationwide exchange program.

“If the Chicago crowd doesn’t want guns in their midst,” Waldron said tongue-in-cheek, “they should export their firearms, and the state’s firearms manufacturers, and in turn, all the other states will send their criminals to Chicago. That seems like a fair arrangement.”


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House Democrats Reveal True Colors; Sacrifice Voting Rights Over Gun Issue

by Nancy

House Democrats Reveal True Colors; Sacrifice Voting Rights Over Gun Issue
Date: Mar 23, 2007 2:19 PM




NEWS RELEASE
HOUSE DEMOCRATS REVEAL TRUE COLORS; SACRIFICE VOTING RIGHTS OVER GUN ISSUE
BELLEVUE, WA – Congressional Democrats claim at every turn they “support the Second Amendment,” but the truth came out Thursday when they pulled a coveted District of Columbia voting rights bill because of an amendment that would have ended the long-standing handgun ban.

“This shows the true colors of the Democrat leadership,” Alan M. Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms stated. “It should have been easy for the Democrat caucus to agree to the Republican-sponsored amendment, because of the recent federal appeals court ruling that declared the handgun ban unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

“Instead,” Gottlieb said, “Democrats proved once again that all their avowed support for the Second Amendment is nothing but empty rhetoric. House Democrats had a chance to stand up and be counted, but instead they ran for cover, afraid to have a recorded vote prove that, as a party and as individuals, they remain as anti-gun as ever.”

Republicans attached an amendment to the District voting rights measure that would have essentially restored the Bill of Rights to Washington, D.C. residents. The bill would give District residents full representation in the House of Representatives. It’s a bill Democrats want because the District is heavily Democrat.

“With this delay over the addition of a gun rights amendment,” Gottlieb observed, “House Democrats have demonstrated a new low in moral hypocrisy that, frankly, just didn’t seem possible. It has taken Democrats only three months to erase the years of promises and pontificating they’ve done, trying to convince American voters, and particularly the nation’s 90 million gun owners, that they are not the party of gun control.

“Yet here they are, sacrificing full House representation for a huge constituency, rather than face a vote on a simple gun rights amendment,” he concluded. “Democrats can call this anything they want, they can join the New York Times in blaming Republicans for this debacle, but the truth is simpler and more insidious. If Democrats do not support gun rights for citizens of the District, they don’t support gun rights for citizens anywhere else.”


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New Orleans residents arming themselves

by Nancy :)


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070323/ap_on_re_us/new_orleans_guns;_ylt=AmmqMLXnH_vvAtwQhxAItBOs0NUE

New Orleans residents arming themselves By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer
Fri Mar 23, 7:02 PM ET



Sixty-four-year-old Vivian Westerman rode out Hurricane Katrina in her 19th-century house. So terrible was the experience that she wanted two things before the 2006 season arrived: a backup power source and a gun. "I got a 6,000-watt generator and the cutest little Smith & Wesson, snub-nose .38 you ever saw," she boasted. "I've never been more confident." People across New Orleans are arming themselves — not only against the possibility of another storm bringing anarchy, but against the violence that has engulfed the metropolitan area in the 19 months since Katrina, making New Orleans the nation's murder capital.

The number of permits issued to carry concealed weapons is running twice as high as it was before Katrina — this, in a city with only about half its pre-storm population of around 450,000. Attendance at firearms classes and hours logged at shooting ranges also are up, according to the gun industry.

Gun dealers who saw sales shoot up during the chaotic few months after Katrina say that sales are still brisk, and that the customers are a cross-section of the population — doctors, lawyers, bankers, artists, laborers, stay-at-home moms.

"People are in fear of their lives. They're looking for ways to feel safe again," said Mike Roniger, manager of Gretna Gunworks in Jefferson Parish.

Citizens, the tourism industry, police and politicians officials have been alarmed by the wave of killings in New Orleans, with 162 in 2006 and 37 so far this year. A Tulane University study put the city's 2006 homicide rate at 96 slayings per 100,000 people, the highest in the nation.

National Guardsmen and state police are patrolling the streets of New Orleans. In neighboring Jefferson Parish, which posted a record 66 homicides in 2006, the sheriff sent armored vehicles to protect high-crime neighborhoods.

In New Orleans, police have accused the district attorney of failing to prosecute many suspects. Prosecutors have accused the police of not bringing them solid cases.

Some people are losing faith in the system to protect them.

Earnest Johnson, a 37-year-old chef who lives in Kenner, bought his first gun recently and visits a shooting range regularly. "Things are way worse than they used to be," he said. "You have to do something to protect yourself."

Kevin Cato, a 41-year-old contractor, bought a .45-caliber handgun for protection when he is working in some of the city's still-deserted areas. "But it's not much safer at home," Cato said. "The police chased a guy through my yard one time with their guns out."

In New Orleans, the number of concealed-carry permits issued jumped from 432 in 2003-04 to 832 in 2005-06. In Jefferson Parish, 522 permits were issued in 2003-04, and 1,362 in 2005-06.

Mike Mayer, owner of Jefferson Indoor Range and Gun Outlet in suburban Metairie, said that despite the dropoff in population, sales are up about 38 percent overall since Katrina.

Just how many guns are out there is anybody's guess. Gun buyers in Louisiana are not required to register their weapon or obtain a concealed-carry permit if they keep the gun in their house or car.

In a measure of how dangerous New Orleans is becoming, guns are finding their way into criminal hands at an alarming rate. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' "time-to-crime" analysis of the interval between the legal sale of a gun and the time it is seized in a crime investigation is five years on average around the nation, said ATF spokesman Austin Banks. In New Orleans, time-to-crime is six months, he said.

This sometimes happens because of "straw purchases," in which a buyer obtains a gun for someone not legally eligible to purchase one. Many guns also are stolen from homes and cars.

While many are buying guns for protection, only two defensive killings of criminals by civilians took place in New Orleans in 2006, according to police. No charges were filed against the shooters.

Westerman, an artist who lives in the city's Algiers neighborhood, is prepared to use deadly force.

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Lock & Load

by Nancy

Lock & Load
Fear of crime is driving more and more New Orleanians to buy handguns — and get permits to carry them on the street.


http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/current/cover_story.php


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NJ COURT RECOGNIZES SECOND AMENDMENT!

by Nancy

NJ COURT RECOGNIZES SECOND AMENDMENT!
Date: Mar 20, 2007 7:51 PM
> NJ COURT RECOGNIZES SECOND AMENDMENT,
> HOLDS THAT IT TRUMPS GUN FORFEITURE LAW
>
> In a landmark written opinion filed February 27, a New Jersey Superior
> Court recognized the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and held
> that a citizen's Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms cannot be
> involuntarily waived under a New Jersey firearms forfeiture law.
> "The recognition of Second Amendment rights in New Jersey is long
> overdue," said ANJRPC Regional Vice President and attorney Evan F. Nappen,
> who represented appellant Dennis W. Peterson in the Warren County case. In
> the appeal, the Second Amendment was applied to New Jersey via the
> Constitutional doctrine of fundamental fairness, overcoming a significant
> legal hurdle needed for the Federal Bill of Rights to apply to the State.
>
> This decision coincides with the recent Parker v. District of Columbia
> case, in which the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia
> struck down a decades-old handgun ban in Washington, D.C. on the ground
> that it violates the Second Amendment.
>
> "The legal significance of the Second Amendment is finally being
> recognized by American courts," Nappen continued, "and this New Jersey
> case is part of a growing trend in American jurisprudence."
>
> In the New Jersey case, the appellant was denied re-issuance of his
> Firearms Purchaser ID card based on his consent to relinquish firearms
> seized in a domestic dispute in 2000. In 2004, New Jersey enacted a law
> barring Firearms Purchaser ID cards to any person whose firearms have been
> seized and not returned.
>
> The Honorable John H. Pursel, J.S.C. held that the statute did not apply
> and the Firearms Purchaser ID card should be issued because the appellant
> did not know that his prior consent to relinquish his firearms would
> subject him to permanent loss of his Second Amendment rights under the
> 2004 law.
>
> The ruling states in key part:
>
> "Fundamental fairness is a doctrine to be sparingly applied. It is
> appropriately applied in those rare cases where not to do so will subject
> the defendant to oppression, harassment, or egregious deprivation." Doe
v.
> Poritz, 142 N.J. 1 (1995), citing State v. Yoskowitz, 116 N.J. 679, 712,
> 563 A.2d 1 (1989) (Garibaldi, J., concurring and dissenting). Egregious
> deprivation would surely be the result if this applicant were precluded
> from obtaining a firearms purchaser identification card by virtue of the
> fact that he consensually surrendered his weapons at a time when it was
> impossible for him to have known that such action would later subject him
> to lifelong deprivation of his second amendment right.
>
> Additionally, it is clear that in consenting to the disposition of the
> weapons seized as a result of the temporary restraining order, the
> applicant did not intend to waive his right to bear arms as provided by
> the second amendment of the U.S. Constitution. He therefore could not have
> knowingly, intelligently, or voluntarily waived that right." (Emphasis
> added.)
>
> The full text of the opinion is available here:
> http://www.evannappen.com/lawupdate1gunbook/pdfs/peterson.pdf
>
> The Warren County Prosecutor has filed a notice of appeal in the case.




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Terrorists Thank Pelosi, Dems

by Nancy

Terrorists Thank Pelosi, Dems
Date: Mar 23, 2007 7:53 AM





Stop the Surrender Bill!

House Democrats are pushing a bill through Congress today which, if it becomes law, will force a needless, pointless American defeat in Iraq. Al Qaeda is thrilled: so are the aging hippies.

We have to stop them.

This bill is called the Murtha Proviso – a rider to the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill for 2007 (H.R. 1591). We call it the Pelosi-Murtha Preemptive Surrender Bill. What it means is simple: they win, we lose.

It would cut funds to U.S. troops, block reinforcements, and retreat all U.S. forces from Iraq next year, no matter what the situation. And if that weren't bad enough, the bill would unconstitutionally force the President to give Congress 15 days notice before he moves troops anywhere: if an emergency comes up, tough.

Can you imagine al Qaeda giving us 15 days notice before they move?

The Pelosi-Murtha bill will kill American troops and crush morale. It will tell the terrorists we have lost all will to win. It will tell our allies they can't trust us, driving them into our enemy's arms. It will tell our enemies if they just hold out one more year and kill more Americans, we will cower in fear and give the Middle East to them. They will win the war.

It will leave America...alone. And then, for the first time since 9/11, the terrorists will come: here.

We have to fight back fast.

Democrats cut a deal last night to bring the vote today. We have to tell them what we think.

Help us tell the Democrats: we demand nothing less than victory. Click here to fax Congress now. The more faxes we send -- and the more of us who send them -- the better the chance we have.

And while you're at it, call the U.S. Capitol Switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for Nancy Pelosi’s office. Tell her how much the terrorists appreciate her help.

Our troops are fighting and dying for us in Iraq. It’s time we started fighting for them here at home. Help us -- and help them -- today.




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Citizen with Rifle Defeats Police Sniper :)

by Nancy


still think law abiding citizens are unworthy of firearm ownership?
Maybe you are incompetent with firearms - so don't get one..... but STOP trying to force everyone to be as uncomplmentary as you want everyone to think we are..............


Citizen with Rifle Defeats Police Sniper
Date: Mar 23, 2007 12:23 PM
March 23, 2007
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A Right to Keep and Bear Arms?

by Nancy

A Right to Keep and Bear Arms?
Date: Mar 21, 2007 10:18 PM
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If the Miller case, 1934, upheld the collective "state" right,
the USC would dismissed the case due to Miller having
a lack of standing. Unless, there was an upheld argument
that there was a State of Miller in this country in 1934.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200703u/gun-control




Atlantic Unbound | March 20, 2007


LEGAL AFFAIRS | by Stuart Taylor Jr.

A Right to Keep and Bear Arms?






An appeals court ruling striking down a D.C. gun control law is right and should be affirmed.
.....

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit issued the biggest gun control decision in decades on March 9, perhaps setting the stage for the biggest Supreme Court gun control decision ever. Rejecting the views of most other courts, Judge Laurence Silberman held for the 2-1 majority, "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms"—not just to have guns when needed for service in now-defunct state militias. On this basis, the majority struck down the District of Columbia's uniquely broad ban against having either a pistol or an operational rifle, even at home for self-defense against intruders.

The decision, Parker v. District of Columbia, is right and should be affirmed. And contrary to a widespread myth, confirmation by the justices that Americans have an individual right to keep and bear arms would not invalidate reasonable gun control laws.

To put my own biases on the table: I don't hunt or own a gun. I support reasonable gun controls but consider the D.C. law unreasonable. I had never fired a pistol until a recent vacation trail ride, when I missed a large target with all six shots. This amused my 19-year-old daughter, who scored five out of six.

Now to the Second Amendment. It states: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

For decades, most courts and legal scholars have treated this as essentially a dead letter. Their reasoning goes like this: The amendment's first clause means that its sole purpose was to guarantee each state a collective right to have self-armed private citizens available as a military force-in-waiting (militia) to fight off federal encroachments; therefore, the second clause protects no individual right; state militias long ago became defunct; so the Second Amendment is an inoperative historical anachronism.

Judge Silberman shreds this conventional wisdom in a 58-page opinion joined by Judge Thomas Griffith. In doing so Silberman builds on the work of a few leading scholars of diverse political persuasions.

"At first blush," Silberman begins, "it seems passing strange that the able lawyers and statesmen in the First Congress (including James Madison) would have expressed a sole concern for state militias with the language of the Second Amendment. Surely there was a more direct locution, such as, 'Congress shall make no law disarming the state militias' or 'States have a right to a well-regulated militia.' "

In addition, the opinion points out, the Framers vested in "the people" the rights protected by the First, Fourth, and Ninth Amendments as well as the Second. Nobody contends that those other provisions protect no individual rights; indeed, "the Bill of Rights was almost entirely a declaration of individual rights," Silberman says. And the Supreme Court said in 1990 that "the people" means the same thing in the Second Amendment as it does in the First, Fourth, and Ninth.

The Founders' language strikes another "mortal blow to the collective-right theory" in explicitly guaranteeing a right to "keep" arms, as well as to "bear" them, Silberman asserts: " 'Keep' is a straightforward term that implies ownership or possession of a functioning weapon by an individual for private use."

And while no other Bill of Rights provision includes a preamble clause stating its civic purpose, many state constitutions of that era did begin with prefatory clauses stating "a principle of good government that was narrower than the operative language used to achieve it," Silberman explains.

Similarly, in the Second Amendment context, "preservation of the militia was the right's most salient political benefit—and thus most appropriate to express in a political document" that was designed to assure "Antifederalist opponents of the 1787 Constitution [that] the militia system would remain robust."

Silberman's opinion makes a convincing case that the Founders saw the Second Amendment as codifying a natural right to "private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense [against] either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government."

Critics, including dissenting D.C. Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson, have accused Silberman of flouting a 1939 Supreme Court precedent, U.S. v. Miller, which collective-right theorists have long seen as holding, at least implicitly, that there is no individual right to keep or bear arms. But if anything, Miller cuts the other way.

In that case, the justices upheld a federal ban on interstate transportation of short-barreled shotguns. Reasoning that the Second Amendment must be "interpreted and applied" in light of its "obvious purpose" of fostering a "well regulated Militia," the Court held that a sawed-off shotgun was not among the "Arms" appropriate for militia service.

But the Miller Court did not say that there was no individual gun right at all, as the government had urged in its brief. Nor did it note that the two defendants were not affiliated with any state militia. Instead, the justices chose to distinguish sawed-off shotguns from other guns. This seemed to imply that the Second Amendment does protect an individual right to keep and bear guns more akin to the rifles, muskets, and pistols commonly used in (and required by Congress for) late-18th-century militia service.

These were the very kinds of guns that the D.C. law banned altogether (handguns) or allowed only if unloaded and inoperable (rifles and shotguns). Therefore, Judge Silberman ruled, the D.C. law clearly violated the Second Amendment.

At the same time, Silberman said that the Second Amendment right is "subject to the same sort of reasonable restrictions" as are other constitutional rights. Indeed, the Supreme Court itself stated in 1897, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms ... is not infringed by laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons." And the Silberman opinion suggests that other reasonable regulations to protect public safety would also be valid, such as requiring registration of guns, conditioning gun ownership on proficiency testing, and prohibiting convicted felons from having guns.

Of course, those who favor a broad federal ban on private possession of pistols, or of all guns, will be thwarted if the Parker decision is allowed to stand by the full, 10-judge D.C. Circuit (which rarely reviews the decisions of its three-judge panels) and affirmed by the Supreme Court.



But, in any event, such a broad federal ban is politically impossible for the foreseeable future. As for state gun control legislation, Parker does not say, and the Supreme Court has not resolved, whether the Second Amendment applies only to the federal government (which ultimately controls the District of Columbia) or to the states, as well.

A question lingers: If the logic underlying the individual-right theory is as compelling as I think it is, why has it for so long been a minority view, rejected by nine federal appeals courts and adopted by only two?

One answer was suggested in a 2003 dissent by Judge Alex Kozinski, of Pasadena, Calif., from a collective-right ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit:

"Judges know very well how to read the Constitution broadly when they are sympathetic to the right being asserted. We have held, without much ado, that 'speech, or ... the press' also means the Internet [for First Amendment purposes] and that 'persons, houses, papers, and effects' also means public telephone booths [for Fourth Amendment purposes]. When a particular right comports especially well with our notions of good social policy, we build magnificent legal edifices on elliptical constitutional phrases.... But ... when we're none too keen on a particular constitutional guarantee, we can be equally ingenious in burying language that is incontrovertibly there.

"It is wrong to use some constitutional provisions as springboards for major social change while treating others like senile relatives to be cooped up in a nursing home until they quit annoying us.... Expanding some to gargantuan proportions while discarding others like a crumpled gum wrapper is not faithfully applying the Constitution; it's using our power as federal judges to constitutionalize our personal preferences."




The URL for this page is http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200703u/gun-control.

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The Witch Hunt Against Gun Owners

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The Witch Hunt Against Gun Owners
Date: Mar 21, 2007 3:11 PM
"Alas, Heston's prayers have yet to be answered. While courts have recently
bolstered Second Amendment rights, endangering gun owners in the name of
free speech continues to be the blood sport of the Fourth Estate."

The Witch Hunt Against Gun Owners

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The All-American Gun

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The All-American Gun
Date: Mar 21, 2007 3:57 PM
The All-American Gun

by John R. Lott, <jlott@aei.org>; Jr.

http://www.lewrockw <http://www.lewrockwell.com/lott/lott50.html>;
ell.com/lott/lott50.html



http://www.amazon.com/Armed-America-Remarkable-Became American/dp/159555069
0/lewrockwell/> Armed America: The Remarkable Story of How and Why Guns
Became as American as Apple Pie, By Clayton Cramer, Nelson, 320 pages,
$26.99

Did you know that in New York City, through 1969 virtually all the public
high schools had riflery teams?

Thousands of students carried their rifles on subways, buses and streets on
their way to school, when they went to practice in the afternoon and on
their way home. And until 1963, all commercial pilots were required to carry
guns and were allowed to carry guns until 1987.Gun laws have certainly
changed over time.

Today towns such as Kennesaw, Ga., Greenfeld, Idaho and Geuda Springs,
Kan., which all require residents to own guns, are considered the oddity.
But Clayton Cramer's terrific new book, "Armed America," shows that,
in
fact, gun ownership has been deeply woven into this country's history since
the colonial period.

Cramer shows that guns aren't inherently the problem. In our day, criminals
may have replaced Indians as a danger facing most citizens, but it may also
shock many readers to learn how comfortable Americans once were with their
guns. In colonial times, as Cramer argues, people didn't own guns just for
hunting. Numerous laws mandated that people have guns for personal defense
and defense of the community, at home, while traveling and even in church.

Heads of households, whether men or women, were required to have a gun at
home and fines of up to a month's wages were imposed on those who failed to
meet this requirement. In some states such as Maryland, fines were paid
directly to inspectors so that authorities had a strong incentive to check.
The only people exempt from these rules were Quakers, some indentured
servants, or, in the South, blacks.
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895261146/lewrockwell/>; Fear of
attack by Indians and England's European enemies meant that people were
required to own and carry guns when traveling, though sometimes older people
were exempted.

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail//0226493644/lewrockwell/>;
At
least six colonies required people have guns with them at church. Church
officials were required to check parishioners when they arrived for services
to ensure they had a gun. Clergymen were required to have guns, too.
Contrast that with the political firestorms that erupt these days when
states merely let churches decide whether concealed handgun permit holders
can carry guns on church property. In our day, only about 45 percent of
households own a gun, whereas gun ownership in colonial America was much
higher, as measured by probate records. Guns were bequeathed to the next
generation in about 70 percent of cases.

The fascinating firsthand historical accounts that Cramer provides indicate
that guns were cheap, readily available and essentially everywhere. Given
America's historical amnesia, Cramer's book helps to remind us about that
part of our history many now find improbable.

_____

This article was originally published Sunday, March 11, 2007, in the New
York Post.

March 12, 2007

John Lott a resident scholar at the
American Enterprise Institute, is the author of
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895261146/lewrockwell/>; The Bias
Against Guns (Regnery 2003).






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New Utube version on Hillary, better than the first one

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New Utube version on Hillary, better than the first one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QViJwZwXTl0&mode=related&search=




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BENCH QUOTE DU JOUR ------

by Nancy

BENCH QUOTE DU JOUR
Date: Mar 21, 2007 3:08 PM
Thanks to John Lott for the pointer!
http://www.johnrlot <http://www.johnrlott.com/>; t.com/

"All sorts of missions are undermined by legitimate and protected speech
-- a school's anti-gun mission would be undermined by a student passing
around copies of John R. Lott's book,'More Guns, Less Crime;' a school's
anti-alcohol mission would be undermined by a student e-mailing links to
a medical study showing less heart disease among moderate drinkers than
teetotalers; and a school's traffic safety mission would be undermined
by a student circulating copies of articles showing that traffic cameras
and automatic ticketing systems for cars that run red lights increase
accidents ... Public schools are instrumentalities of government, and
government is not entitled to suppress speech that undermines
whatever missions it defines for itself. What schools are entitled
to do, as Fraser makes clear, is suppress speech that disrupts
the good order necessary to conduct their educational
function."




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BRITAIN: 60% die by sharp implement, 11% by firearms

by Nancy

BRITAIN: 60% die by sharp implement, 11% by firearms
Date: Mar 21, 2007 9:55 AM
PUBLICATION: The Daily Telegraph
DATE: 2007.03.20
SECTION: News
PAGE: 011
BYLINE: Chris Eades
NOTE: Commentary
WORD COUNT: 528

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Why young people in poor areas are the most likely to die

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AFTER a week of tragedy, knives are back on the political agenda again,
as they were last year after a series of tragic deaths.

One of the problems in understanding such incidents is the lack of
high-quality research and data on the different types of "knife crime'',
its prevalence, whom it affects, motivations for it and responses to it.
Without this information, devising successful strategies will be
difficult. Enough is known to offer us at least a rough picture of the
problem.

"Knife crime'' ranges from the simple act of carrying an illegal blade
through to using it to kill. Knowing how many people carry knives, how
often and for what reasons is difficult. Research suggests it is most
common among those aged 14 to 21, peaking among 16- to 17-year-olds

Looking at knife use to commit particular crimes, the picture is a
little clearer. For example, knife-enabled "muggings'' and wounding
are
well below the levels seen in 1995. However, the last two years have
seen steep rises; in 2004/05 there were 24,290 recorded incidents of
knife use in "mugging'' but in 2005/06 this became 42,020 recorded
incidents, a rise of about 73 per cent. For woundings, there were 28,850
recorded incidents of knife use in wounding offences in 2004/05 but in
2005/06 this had risen by almost 14 per cent to 32,820. This should be
seen against the long-term downward trend.

Children and young people, black and minority ethnic communities and
populations living in poorer areas are most likely to be the victims of
crime, violent crime and knife offences.

According to the 2005/06 British Crime Survey (BCS), the risk of
becoming a victim of violent crime is 3.4 per cent for a British adult.
It is four times greater for young men. According to another survey, one
fifth of young people had been a victim of an assault in the previous 12
months. Unsurprisingly, it is that age group too which is most likely to
carry a knife "for protection'', and most likely to be stabbed and
to
die by a knife.

The problem is worse still for those living in poorer areas. Despite the
rise in the homicide rate that Britain has experienced over recent
years, the wealthiest areas have witnessed a fall. Meanwhile, the
homicide rate in the poorest of areas in Britain rose sixfold in the
eighties and nineties. The most common way in which people are killed in
the poorest areas in Britain is through being cut with a sharp
implement. About 60 per cent die that way, much more than by firearms,
which are used in only 11 per cent of cases. In the wealthiest areas,
cutting accounts for just over 30 per cent of homicides and firearms
account for 29 per cent. Given that the vast majority of murders occur
in the poorest areas, homicide by knife or glass/bottle accounts for the
vast majority of deaths.

Chris Eades is the policy and information officer of the Centre for
Crime and Justice Studies at the School of Law, King's College, London.




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when guns are outlawed

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, outlaws will find other TOOLS to do their job!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gun control does NOT DETER criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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U.S. Senator Carl Levin: A Bit of Truth about Assault Weapons

by Nancy

U.S. Senator Carl Levin: A Bit of Truth about Assault Weapons
Date: Mar 21, 2007 11:30 AM
This is why what Jim Zumbo published in his blog article was so destructive.
Those who want to enact gun control have long held the "assault" weapons
ban was only a first step. The major media, antigun politicians and
gun control organizations have used Jim Zumbo's debacle as ammo
for attacking the NRA. Never mind that it was the grassroots calling
for the removal of Jim Zumbo that caused the results he has endured.
U.S. Senator Carl Levin (D) Michigan.

_http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-21575.html_
(http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-21575.html)

Congress : Senator Carl Levin: A Bit of Truth about Assault Weapons

March 20, 2007 -- In a speech to the Economic Club of Detroit in May 1999,
Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., committed to speak on the issue of gun crimes each
week that the Senate is in session. This is the 257th week he has continued to
live up to his pledge; his remarks follow:

"Mr. President, the National Rifle Association leadership has stated
repeatedly that a ban on assault weapons is ineffective and unnecessary. They assert
that guns labeled as assault weapons are rarely used in violent crimes and
that most people use them for hunting. However, despite these repeated
assertions, the list of people speaking out against assault weapons continues to
grow.

Jim Zumbo, an outdoors entrepreneur who lives in a log cabin near
Yellowstone National Park, has spent much of his life writing for prominent outdoor
magazines, delivering lectures across the country and who starred in a highly
rated TV show about big-game hunting. Jim has been an NRA member for 40 years,
and, according to his website, has appeared with NRA officials in 70 cities
across the country. This relationship changed drastically when Jim expressed
his common sense opinion on assault weapons.

Last month, after learning that some hunters were using assault weapons to
hunt prairie dogs, Jim expressed his thoughts in his personal blog on the
Outdoor Life magazine website. He wrote “Maybe I’m a traditionalist, but I see
no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I’ll go so far as to
call them ‘terrorist rifles.’” He continued by stating that in his “humble
opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don’t need to be lumped
into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious
concern. I’ve always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don’t
use assault rifles. We’ve always been proud of our ‘sporting firearms.’”

The reaction from NRA officials was swift and callous. They immediately
severed all ties with Mr. Zumbo. His TV program on the Outdoor Channel was
canceled, and his longtime career with Outdoor Life magazine ended. In addition
many of his corporate ties to the biggest names in gun making, such as Remington
Arms Co., were terminated.

Jim Zumbo has worked for years to improve the image of outdoorsman. As he
put it, “As hunters, we don’t need the image of walking around the woods
carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a
terrifying thing. Let’s divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should
ban them from the prairies and woods.”

We all owe Jim Zumbo a debt of gratitude for his forthrightness, his honesty
and his courage. We must put the safety of our communities first by taking
up and passing sensible gun legislation that includes renewing the assault
weapons ban."


Source: Senator Carl Levin




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This from a strict gun controled country....

by Nancy

All of their gun control laws and they STILL have crime......... Geeeeeee who woulda thunk....... obviously NOT the Brady Bunch !!!



BRITAIN: 39,000 recorded crimes in the area, including 19 murders and 180 shootings
Date: Mar 21, 2007 9:43 AM
PUBLICATION: The Daily Telegraph
DATE: 2007.03.20
SECTION: News
PAGE: 011
BYLINE: Nicole Martin
WORD COUNT: 348

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'Children around here are out of control'

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PEERING out of her flower shop on a quiet residential street close to
where Adam Regis was stabbed to death, Emma Moore, 31, shook her head
despairingly.

For her and many of her neighbours, the murder of an innocent schoolboy
is the latest and most shocking incident that has blighted the area
where she grew up.

"The children around here are out of control,'' she said. "They
hang
around in gangs, frightening the life out of people who dare to look
them in the eyes. The other day, a boy of 13 had a glass broken in his
eye for no reason whatsoever. I worry about my little girl. I don't want
her to go to school around here.''

Mrs Moore's damning verdict of Plaistow, in the east London borough of
Newham, one of the most deprived areas of Britain, was shared yesterday
by the scores of teenagers who came to lay floral tributes at the spot
where Adam was killed.

"This area is so rough that I can only guess that Adam just got unlucky.
Maybe he looked at someone in the wrong way, or spoke to someone when he
shouldn't have,'' said one 16-year-old boy, who went to school with
Adam
but was too frightened to give his name.

"I have friends who have been attacked just for looking at the wrong
person in the wrong way.''

According to a study carried out last year for a Channel 4 television
programme, Newham is the fourth worst place to live in the UK. Official
figures from the Metropolitan Police show that crime in the borough is
20 per cent higher than the national average.

In 2006 alone, there were 39,000 recorded crimes in the area, including
19 murders and 180 shootings. Assaults averaged 22 a day, robberies
seven.

But despite the sense of despair, some residents believe the face of
Plaistow is already changing, and are hoping that the staging of the
Olympic Games at nearby Stratford in 2012 will breathe new life into the
area.

Pat Campbell, who has lived in Plaistow for 25 years, said: "As far as
I'm concerned, this is a one-off incident. Yes, kids hang around after
dark, but it's no different here than anywhere else in London. I
wouldn't leave if you paid me.''




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Annual Firearms Licencing & Registration Costs --Canada

by Nancy :(

Annual Firearms Licencing & Registration Costs
Date: Mar 21, 2007 7:42 AM
CANADA FIREARMS CENTRE: Resource Breakdown by Sub-Activity for 2005-2006
to 2007-2008 for the Centre Activity
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/est-pre/20052006/CFC-CAFC/CFC-CAFCr5602_e.asp#22




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SAF SUPPORTS ADVENTURE OUTDOORS BATTLE AGAINST BLOOMBERG

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SAF SUPPORTS ADVENTURE OUTDOORS BATTLE AGAINST BLOOMBERG
Date: Mar 20, 2007 2:58 PM
NEWS RELEASE
SAF SUPPORTS ADVENTURE OUTDOORS BATTLE AGAINST BLOOMBERG
BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today confirmed that it is providing financial support to Adventure Outdoors of Smyrna, Georgia in a lawsuit against New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and other New York defendants for attempting to ensnare and defame the store in Bloomberg’s infamous 2006 gun shop “sting.”

SAF’s support was requested by attorney and former Georgia Congressman Bob Barr, now working at the Jasper, Georgia law offices of Edwin Marger, which represents Adventure Outdoors. SAF founder Alan M. Gottlieb said the foundation has sent a check to Marger, and promised to help bring public attention to the case.

“Bloomberg’s notorious enterprise against Adventure Outdoors and other gun retailers was, and remains, an outrage,” Gottlieb stated.

Adventure Outdoors was targeted by Bloomberg’s vigilante “sting” operation last year. In addition to suing Bloomberg, the company has filed a motion to dismiss the civil lawsuit filed by Bloomberg against the gun shop. Adventure Outdoors is one of several retail firearms dealers targeted by Bloomberg’s rogue operation. That multi-state “sting” has come under the scrutiny of the Department of Justice and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The Justice Department has declined to file criminal charges against any of the gun dealers targeted by Bloomberg, and has advised Bloomberg’s office that it could face “potential legal liabilities” if such sting operations continue. Earlier this year, W. Larry Ford, Assistant ATF Director for Public and Governmental Affairs, confirmed to SAF that the agency “is investigating the matter [Bloomberg’s stings] in order to determine if violations of federal firearms laws occurred.”

“Mayor Bloomberg and his henchmen had no legal authority to conduct their questionable operation,” Gottlieb noted. “These civil lawsuits amount to harassment through the courts. It’s an egregious abuse of perceived power by Bloomberg, and we’re only too happy to assist Bob Barr and his colleagues in an effort to stop Bloomberg’s demagoguery.”


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Gun Owners Taunt Big-City Mayor

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Gun Owners Taunt Big-City Mayor
Date: Mar 20, 2007 8:39 AM
MIDLOTHIAN, Virginia (March 20) - Amid the flags of the old South's Confederacy, anti-Yankee bumper stickers and Civil War relics on display at Bob Moates Sport Shop, a counterattack against the North is under way.


Lawsuits Anger Gun Shops
"Ask about the Bloomberg Gun GiveAway" reads a sign taped to the gun shop's register, beckoning customers to enter the drawing named for New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, whose federal lawsuits against gun dealers in five states have drawn the wrath of Virginia's gun enthusiasts.

Bloomberg says the dealers holding the contest are sick. The dealers call Bloomberg names that are not fit to print.

"The truth is, if Bloomberg hadn't picked on Virginia, we wouldn't have gotten involved. But he made the mistake of stepping into Virginia with this," said Philip Van Cleave, president of the pro-gun Virginia Citizens Defense League and mastermind of the giveaway, which has boosted business for the two participating store owners.

The Republican mayor has sued 27 out-of-state gun dealers, alleging they sold firearms illegally to undercover private investigators conducting a sting for New York. City officials say the dealers have supplied hundreds of weapons used in New York City crimes. The lawsuits, which name dealers in Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia, ask the court to require monitoring of the shops' sales.

Investigators tried to make "straw purchases," in which one person fills out the legal forms and buys a gun for someone else. The practice is prohibited by federal law and is typically used by those who cannot legally own firearms, such as convicted felons.

Nine dealers, including two in Virginia, have settled with the city, agreeing to be monitored by a court-appointed special master. The owners of two Virginia stores being sued said they were forced to close because of crushing legal fees.

But in January, two other store owners began fighting back with the gun giveaway.

Through March 31, customers who spend $100 (euro75) at either of Bob Moates' stores or at Old Dominion Guns and Tackle in Danville are eligible to win a handgun or a rifle, courtesy of the Defense League. The drawing will be held April 19.

Van Cleave said he came up with the idea as a way to boost sales at the stores, which have shelled out thousands in legal fees.

The contest has only further agitated Bloomberg, who has made gun control a top priority in his second term.

"These are sick people," Bloomberg said in January at the Mayors Against Illegal Guns summit in Washington. "And if they think that this is funny, I don't think that the parents or the spouses or the children of those that get killed with illegal guns would find that very entertaining."

Dave Hancock, who has worked at Bob Moates Sport Shop for 25 years, said of the mayor: "I think he's an idiot."

Bloomberg and others say the lawsuits are aimed at reducing the flow of illegal guns into New York. Mayoral spokesman Jason Post said police statistics show that 90 percent of the guns used in crimes in New York City come from out of state.

But Hancock and other Virginia gun-rights advocates say the lawsuits are nothing more than a publicity stunt and a scheme to drive gun dealers out of business.

Richard Hill, manager of Bob Moates Sport Shop, called the lawsuits a "nice attempt by a politician just trying to get to the White House" and said his store always follows the law.

"The best way to get guns off the street and criminals off the street is to lock 'em up," Hill said. "They seem to want to pick on an old stereotype: It's so easy to get a gun in Virginia and run it up to New York. When quite honestly, you can break into a house anywhere and get anything you like."

Bloomberg's face is on a poster taped to a shotgun rack at Bob Moates, under the words "Here are our worst enemy." Sarah Brady of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle are also pictured, though Bloomberg's face is circled in bright pink highlighter.

The winner will receive a Para-Ordnance handgun worth around $900.

Longtime customer Scott Cashion, 31, of Chesterfield, said he has earned six or seven tickets - and may end up with more to get back at Bloomberg.

"I bought some kind of for spite," he said while looking over a stack of ammunition. "What he's doing is wrong."

The winner of the contest at Old Dominion Guns and Tackle will get a Browning Varmint Stalker rifle, also worth about $900.

"I've been in business 27 years and I've probably had the best February I've ever had," store owner Dennis Alverson said. "Nobody's got a great likeness for Bloomberg in this area."







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BFP: 'Rights' belong to individual citizens

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BFP: 'Rights' belong to individual citizens
Date: Mar 20, 2007 10:05 AM
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070320/OPINION/703200304/1006

'Rights' belong
to individual citizens

The writer of "Gun ownership is a privilege" (March 5) chooses an interpretation of the constitutional language that suits her political stripe. In the day, the "militia" was everyone; when the whistle sounded, all were supposed to turn out, and many did. Now, if one chooses to call 911 and wait for the "militia" to turn out, it will be a half-hour wait or longer. If it truly is an emergency, and lives are at stake, sayonara!

The language of the Constitution is consistent. "Rights" belong to individual citizens, where "powers" belong to government. The Federalist Papers explain this in the words of the founders. March 9's appeals court decision in Washington, D.C., makes it clear; the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right, specifically set aside in our Constitution. Long may it live!
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NYC Post: WHO WANTS A GUN FIGHT? LEFT CAN ONLY WIN BY CHEATING

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NYC Post: WHO WANTS A GUN FIGHT? LEFT CAN ONLY WIN BY CHEATING
Date: Mar 20, 2007 10:01 AM
George Will missed a substantial part of the former Professor Michael
Bellesiles "Arming America" story. Emory University appointed a three
member panel to investigate the research methods used by Bellesiles
after he was unable to produce his original research material. The
panel found his research did not meet acceptable academic standards,
Bellesiles resigned his tenured position, and Columbia requested the
money that accompanies the Bancroft Prize, and his publisher dropped him.
WHO WANTS A GUN FIGHT?
LEFT CAN ONLY WIN BY CHEATING
March 18, 2007 -- BY striking down the Dis trict of Columbia's ex traordinarily strict gun- control law, a federal appeals court may have revived gun control as a political issue. It has been mostly dormant since autumn 2000, when Al Gore decided he was less interested in it than in carrying states such as Michigan and Pennsylvania: "Gore Tables Gun Issue As He Courts Midwest" (The New York Times, Sept. 20, 2000). The court ruling appalls advocates of gun-control laws, and should alarm the Democratic Party.

The court ruled 2-1 that D.C.'s law, which lets only current and retired police officers have handguns in their homes, violates the Constitution's Second Amendment: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

This ruling probably will be reviewed by the Supreme Court, which 68 years ago seemed to hold that the amendment's first 13 words circumscribe the force of the rest. That is, there is a constitutionally protected right to "keep and bear" guns only insofar as the keeping and bearing are pertinent to service in state-run militias.

In 2000, advocates of stringent gun control thought they had won their argument with historical evidence when an Emory University historian, Michael Bellesiles, published "Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture." This book, which was awarded the Bancroft Prize, the most coveted honor for U.S. history scholarship, argued that when the Second Amendment was written, guns were not widely owned or reliable enough to be important. Therefore the amendment was written to protect only the rights of states, not of individuals. Before long, however, other scholars argued that much of Bellesiles' "research" consisted of meretricious uses of, fabrication of, or disregard of, evidence.

And in 1989, Sanford Levinson of the University of Texas Law School had written in a Yale Law Journal article, "The Embarrassing Second Amendment," that the amendment's language, properly read, is an embarrassment to those who favor whittling away the amendment's protection of the individuals' right to own guns.




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NYC: GUNS AREN'T ENOUGH - POLS WANT BULLET CONTROL

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NYC: GUNS AREN'T ENOUGH - POLS WANT BULLET CONTROL
Date: Mar 19, 2007 9:04 AM
Same old programs, same old nonsense. Regulate the honest
citizen, for they are the ones who comply with such laws, and
ignore or refuse to deal with the violent criminals.
Violent Criminal Control is what is needed.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03192007/news/regionalnews/guns_arent_enough___pols_want_bullet_control_regionalnews_dan_kadison.htm


GUNS AREN'T ENOUGH - POLS WANT BULLET CONTROL


By DAN KADISON




March 19, 2007 -- Getting guns off the street is not enough to stop violent crime, a group of lawmakers said yesterday.
You have to stop the bullets, too.
"For far too long we have ignored the relationship between bullets and gun crimes," state Sen. Eric Adams (D-Brooklyn), a former NYPD captain, said as he held a hollow-point slug. "We can no longer allow this item, this bullet, to be that silent partner."
Adams said he was introducing legislation that would mandate the tracking of ammunition and force buyers to register the bullets they purchase.
Adams was joined by state Sens. Malcolm Smith and Eric Schneiderman outside De Marco's restaurant in Greenwich Village, where a crazed gunman shot and killed a bartender last week before chasing down two auxiliary cops and murdering them in cold blood on the street.
The killer, David Garvin, 42, was shot to death moments later by police. He was carrying a bag with nearly 100 rounds of ammunition. Cops later seized another 100 rounds in his apartment.
One bill would permit the sale of bullets only to individuals who hold legal gun licenses that specify the type of ammunition being purchased. A second bill would require manufacturers to brand bullets sold in New York with a traceable code to help police track them during criminal probes.
"If David Garvin did not have - as we believe he did not have - a permit for the gun he was carrying, he shouldn't be allowed to buy bullets," Schneiderman said.


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More on the 2A and current issues

by Nancy

More on the 2A and current issues
Date: Mar 18, 2007 8:52 PM
Clayton Cramer tells me his new book, "Armed America: The Remarkable
Story of How and Why Guns Became as American as Apple Pie" is now
available. It's $17.81 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on
orders over $25. It is the story of Cramer's battle to expose one of the
greatest academic frauds ever foisted on the public.
-Dan Gifford

"In 2000, advocates of stringent gun control thought they had won their
argument with historical evidence when an Emory University historian,
Michael Bellesiles, published 'Arming America: The Origins of a National
Gun Culture.' This book, which was awarded the Bancroft Prize, the most
coveted honor for American history scholarship, argued that when the
Second Amendment was written, guns were not widely owned or reliable
enough to be important. Therefore the amendment was written to protect
only the rights of states, not of individuals. Before long, however,
other scholars argued that much of Bellesiles's 'research' consisted
of
meretricious uses of, fabrication of, or disregard of evidence, and the
Bancroft Prize was rescinded."

George F. Will
georgewill@washpost <georgewill%40washpost.com>; .com
Syndicated columnist
March 18, 2007
A Shot in the Arm for the GOP
<http://www.realclea
<http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/a_shot_in_the_arm_for_the
> rpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/a_shot_in_the_arm_for_the
_gop.html>

"Cramer, an adjunct lecturer in history at Boise State University and
George Fox University, took on Michael Bellesiles even before his book
Arming America was discredited, and now goes further to prove wrong
Bellesiles's claim that guns were uncommon in early America. Cramer
finds that guns 'were the norm' in that period, people relied on guns to
hunt, and gun ownership was key to the success of colonial militias. His
most intriguing argument is that, as they became 'tied to defending
political rights,' guns also became a symbol of citizenship ... " (more)

Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.
<http://www.amazon.com/Armed-America-Remarkable-Became-American/dp/159555069
0> com/Armed-America-Remarkable-Became-American/dp/1595550690
/sr=1-1/qid=1170629774/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-2738756-5711361?ie=UTF8&s=books

"I have know Clayton for many years, and this should be a really solid,
excellent book. It was very difficult for him to convince publishers
that there was a market for this type of book, and I hope that the
market makes everyone who turned the book down regret that they did so."

John R. Lott
http://johnrlott.
<http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2007/02/cramers-new-book-armed-america.html>;
tripod.com/2007/02/cramers-new-book-armed-america.html

MORE REGARDING THE DC 2ND AMENDMENT RULING:


"In sharp contrast to the bloated Supreme Court jurisprudence growing
out of most other amendments, though, the High Court has been nearly
silent on the proper interpretation of the Second."

Erin Sheley
Writer and attorney in Washington, D.C.
March 18, 2007
Gunfight at D.C. Corral

http://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystandard/20070318/cm_weeklystandard/gunfightat


"The key sentence of the Second Amendment reads: "A well-regulated
militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of
the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The meaning of
this sentence has been furiously debated by constitutional lawyers for
at least a half century, even as the evidence mounted that the US had
the highest level of gun ownership in the developed world and that gun
deaths in America were at epidemic levels."

Michael Gawenda
United States correspondent, The Age (AU)
March 19, 2007
Living with guns. Dying with guns
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/living-and-dying-with-guns/2007/03/18/

"Owning a gun is a constitutional right, a US appeals court panel said
last week as it struck down a District of Columbia gun ban ... Now
there's a possibility that a more conservative Supreme Court might
endorse this lower-court decision. If so, the justices will need to
acknowledge that public safety requires regulation of firearms."

Editorial
The Christian Science Monitor
The Monitor's View
March 16, 2007 edition
Gun laws as a right to safety
A court refutes a 1939 Supreme Court ruling against gun rights, perhaps
opening a Pandora's box.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0316/p08s02-comv.html?s=yaho

"There's going to be racial tension, tension between neighborhoods. It
is true in every high school in the world I bet, in Halifax or Tokyo,
London, Canberra and Stockholm, it's all the same. But here's the
difference. The kids in Hartford have guns and most kids in most Western
countries - as angry as they are - don't ... It's the gun lobby, the
NRA, the manufacturers and the legistative cowards in Washington who
won't stop the flow of guns who are responsible ... "

Alistair Highet
Columnist
Hartford Advocate
editor@hartfordadvo <editor%40hartfordadvocate.com>; cate.com
March 8 2007
The Observer: Boys and Guns
Hispanic And Black Students War At Hartford High.

http://www.ctnow.com/custom/nmm/hartfordadvocate/hce-hta-0308-ht11observer1

"Judges don't get to decide if laws are harmful, dangerous or just bad
ideas. It's their duty, however, to protect us from laws that violate
our constitutional rights' ... Count us among the purists. We believe
the Bill of Rights means what it says."

Editorial
TriCityHerald.com (Kennewick, Pasco and Richland, Washington)
March 15th, 2007
Gun control ruling and the Bill of Rights
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/tch/opinions/story/8709604p-8611880c.html




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Granny's got a gun

by Nancy

Granny's got a gun
Date: Mar 19, 2007 7:18 AM
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070318/NEWS01/703180310
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March 18, 2007
Granny's got a gun

By Erin Elaine Mosely
Montgomery Advertiser


Frances Babington, 65, is a pistol-toting grandma, who says
she is a "fighting person."

"I'm the type of person ... (that's) not going to let
someone take something from me. I decided I wanted to get
the better end of the fight," Babington said.

"When I started carrying the gun, I made it a priority to be
instructed by the Montgomery Police Department about how and
when to use my gun. To my surprise, the officers spent
about 75 percent of the course time teaching how to avoid
having to use a weapon but did not neglect the shooting
aspects.

"Having said that, you would-be criminals take note! The
next time you attempt to rob or break and enter into the
home of an elderly, gray-haired lady, it might be me. If
you enter my home I would consider my life to be in peril
and would not hesitate to blow you out of your socks."

Babington said she and her husband Tom, 65, a retired
pharmacist, took the gun-safety class together. Tom was
robbed twice as he left work, and Babington had a close call
of her own when she worked downtown at the old St.
Margaret's Hospital.

Babington was headed to her car in the parking lot after
work when she noticed a man walking near her. She said she
noticed the man turn suddenly about 12 feet away and came up
behind her.

"I reached in my purse grabbed the gun and showed it to
him," Babington said. "I looked him directly in his eyes.
He turned away. It worked. I didn't have to use it, but it
worked. If he had attacked me, I would have felt
comfortable using it."

The Babingtons have identical blue steel revolvers, and a
gold police shield in their window they got from the Police
Department that lets people know trained gunmen protect
their property.

Frances Babington believes that anyone seeking to bear arms
should do it the right way.

"I think that having a class ought to be part of getting a
gun permit," (DO NOT make the govt have to tell you or be able to tell you to take a firearms class for safety - People, come on, that SHOULd be COMMON SENSE! )

she said. "You've got to know what you're doing with it if you're going to carry it."
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This I agree with but le'st NOT get the govt involve ,please?!?!?!?, people..... have a little common sense that God gave you..... If you buy a gun learn how and when to use it.....

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Lawyer who wiped out DC Gun Bam says it's about liberties, not guns.

by Nancy

Lawyer who wiped out DC Gun Bam says it's about liberties, not guns.
Date: Mar 18, 2007 7:08 PM
If the URL wraps, just cut and paste it together in your URL Window.


"To [lawyer Robert A. Levy] the libertarian ... the effectiveness of the
[District of Columbia gun ban] law -- its success or failure in curbing
crime -- isn't the core issue. What matters most to him is whether the
statute unjustly infringes on personal liberties. He doesn't dispute
that 'reasonable' gun controls are permissible under the Second
Amendment. But the District's law amounts to 'an outright prohibition,'
Levy said, and 'that offends my constitutional sensibilities.'"

Lawyer Who Wiped Out D.C. Ban Says It's About Liberties, Not Guns
By Paul Duggan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 18, 2007; A01
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/17/AR200703170"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2007/03/17/AR2007031701055.html

Meet the lawyer who conceived the lawsuit that gutted the District's
tough gun-control statute this month. Meet the lawyer who recruited a
group of strangers to sue the city and bankrolled their successful
litigation out of his own pocket.

Meet Robert A. Levy, staunch defender of the Second Amendment, a wealthy
former entrepreneur who said he has never owned a firearm and probably
never will.

"I don't actually want a gun," Levy said by phone last week from his
residence, a $1.7 million condominium in a Gulf Coast high-rise. "I
mean, maybe I'd want a gun if I was living on Capitol Hill. Or in
Anacostia somewhere. But I live in Naples, Florida, in a gated
community. I don't feel real threatened down here."

He is 65, a District native who left the city 40 years ago for
Montgomery County,




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TX: Home owner fights back against intruders

by Armed citizens save loifes and deter crime

A lot of people seem to believe that if you are the victim of a crime, the police will show up to save you and your family from the bad guys. The problem with this belief is that it is not based in reality. While there are occasions where law enforcement is able to intervene to actually stop a crime in progress, much of the time police are simply dealing with the aftermath of a misdeed.

A Houston man knew this and instead of cowering in a closet waiting to be murdered, he did what he had to do to protect himself and his family.

http://lonestartimes.com/2007/03/14/houston-gun-control/


http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=5120116

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Diner Owner Shoots Armed RobbersOne Dead, Other Wounded

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http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=5102499>

by Erin O'Hearn, David Henry, Matt O'Donnell, Corey Herman and Bob Monek
WEST OAK LANE - March 8, 2007 - A diner owner turned the tables on two would-be robbers on Thursday, killing one and wounding the other.

"Self defense, self defense," said Jason Lee. "I did what I had to do."
Lee said he was defending his own life and the lives of his wife and co-worker. Early Thursday morning two masked gunman barged into the Sunrise Breakfast Shop in West Oak Lane demanding cash.

One of the men fired. Lee, who keeps a gun under the counter, fired back, killing 20-year-old Cornell Toombs and wounding 24-year-old Gary Williams.

"I was just waiting for the chance and when they paid attention to the two ladies to open the cash register, I shoot him (Toombs) in the head," said Lee.

"At that point, the second bandit (Williams) opened fire on the owner. He got off a couple shots and the owner returned fire, striking (Williams)," said Chief Inspector Joseph Fox.

Williams fled the store injured and bleeding. Cell phone video taken by a bystander shows Lee chasing after him.

"I beat him down. He tried to get up while he was bleeding and I pushed him down. I waved my hand to people saying 'call police, call police,'" he said.

Investigators said it appears to be a case of justified self-defense.

A visibly shaken Lee confirmed to Action News this incident was not the first time he had a shoot-out with robbers.

In 1993, Lee killed one thief and injured another when they tried to rob at his store on 68th and Broad Streets.

Lee, who was 30 years old then, was not charged.

Merchants along Washington Lane told Action News at times, it seems criminals hold the neighborhood hostage. While they are saddened a young man was killed, they know Lee had no other option.

"Times are hard and money is hard to come by, so you're not going to come in and let people rob you," said Joe Dunston.

The wounded gunman, Gary Williams, remained in the hospital Thursday night. Police said it is unlikely that Lee will face any charges.

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Front Sight Challenge (kewl)

by Nancy

Posted on Mar 16, 2007, 3:20 PM

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Unarmed "Police" Killed

by Nancy

From www.2ampd.net - pro gun police
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2ampd/message/38882
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Unarmed "Police" Killed
Listening to the news, I found it ironic that a city that is so anti-gun that their “Police” are unarmed, then blame “the guns” when some mad man guns down two of their unarmed “Police”!



It happens repeatedly. They almost casually disregard the perpetrator as a mad man and then go on at length about how the guns are the problem. Not one commentator, so far, has asked why the “Police” are unarmed. I wonder when the “Police” are going to ask?



http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/16915354.htm



Leroy


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Man with concealed weapon shoots alleged robber

by Nancy


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/C8F7B714E662ECD68625729E000FA62B?OpenDocument

Man with concealed weapon shoots alleged robber
By Bill Bryan
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
03/14/2007

Riccardo Crossland used a pellet gun to rob a man legally carrying a real
gun outside a Bridgeton
motel Tuesday morning and ended up shot, police said.

Crossland went off to a hospital with wounds of the hand and leg; the
victim went on his way with
the congratulations of police.

"Here was a robbery where we have a good ending for once," said Bridgeton
Police Major Don Steinman,
who said the shooting was clearly self-defense.

The 23-year-old victim holds a concealed-carry permit from his home state
of Florida, which is
honored in Missouri, officials said.

"He had his gun aimed at my face," the robbery victim said in an interview
granted on the condition
that his name and hometown not be used. "I definitely thought he was going
to shoot me, so I started
firing."

Crossland's weapon turned out to be a pellet gun that resembled a
.45-caliber handgun, police said.
The victim had a real .45 in his waistband.

Crossland, 39, of the 7100 block of Beulah Avenue in Jennings, was taken
to DePaul Health Center,
police said, for treatment of his wounds, which were not considered
life-threatening. He was charged
with first-degree robbery and armed criminal action.

Police said Crossland is on probation for a drug-related offense, and has
convictions for robbery,
burglary, stealing and drug-related crimes.

The victim gave this account:

He had stayed several days at the Motel 6, near Interstate 270 and St.
Charles Rock Road, while
looking at a race car engine to buy from a man in St. Louis.

About 3 a.m. Tuesday, he took his pit bull on an errand for food. Just
outside the motel, he
encountered two men who asked questions about the dog before one of them
pulled out what looked like
a gun and announced a holdup.

"The one guy started to pat me down, and I didn't want him to find my gun,
so I was handing them
over everything I could," the victim said. "I was just waiting for the
right opportunity to get my
gun."

The robbers then started to depart with the man's wallet, necklace, ring
and cash.

"The guy with the gun was walking away with the gun at his side, but then
he turned around and aimed
it at my face," the victim said. "I definitely thought he was going to
shoot me, so I pulled my gun
out and started firing."

He fired seven shots and the pair fled.

Crossland was found about a quarter of a mile away, hiding on a parking
lot in the 12900 block of
St. Charles Rock Road, police said. The accomplice was not caught.

The victim said he had the concealed-carry permit for two years but had
never used the weapon.
Missouri has no tracking system for cases in which people with
concealed-carry permits use their
weapons.


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Gun Unhappy and Citizens bearing arms -- not a bad thing at all

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Gun Unhappy
By David Hogberg
Published 3/14/2007 12:07:37 AM

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11145



More From Staten Island Advance
Citizens bearing arms -- not a bad thing at all
Tuesday, March 13, 2007
DANIEL LEDDY
http://www.silive.com/siadvance/stories/index.ssf?/base/opinion/117378724834850.xml&coll=1

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Well-Regulated Right to Bear Arms

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Re: [2ampd] A Well-Regulated Right to Bear Arms


the professor's first mistake is calling
washington d.c.'s absolute ban on "bearing arms"
even in the privacy of ones home "reasonable". he
goes downhill from there. when you cannot legally
"carry" a gun from the locked box where it is
stored in one room to another where your
workbench may be located to clean it, and mere
assembly of it may constitute a "crime" that law
is not "reasonable", nor is it "reasonable" to
deny access to "pistol permits" to all citizens
when that denial affects only the law abiding,
leaving criminals free to get arms on the illegal
market subject only to the random risk of
encountering a police officer while violating the
law. a risk they evidently consider acceptable as
they go about their business of preying on a
disarmed public. a business this professor seems
to think is also acceptable, as long as he is
safe from being chosen as prey since he lives far
from washington. the professor demonstrates
vividly that education does not always bring
wisdom, that an educated fool remains a fool
still.
"gunner"
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Re: [2ampd] A Well-Regulated Right to Bear Arms
I have never understood how, when the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments
define personal rights, anyone can even think the 2nd is anything but a
personal right. Simply amazes me...
JOhn
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Well-Regulated Right to Bear Arms
A law lecture on the Washington Post editorial page to inform us all.
Phil

A Well-Regulated Right to Bear Arms

By Erwin Chemerinsky
Wednesday, March 14, 2007; Page A15

In striking down the District of Columbia's handgun ban last week, a
federal appeals court raised the crucial constitutional question: What
should be the degree of judicial deference to government regulation of
firearms? The decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C.
Circuit interpreted the Second Amendment as bestowing on individuals a
right to have guns. But even if this reasoning is accepted, and it is
very much disputed, the Court of Appeals still should have upheld the
law as being a reasonable way of achieving the government's legitimate
goal of decreasing gun violence.

There is a major debate among scholars and judges involving two
competing views of the Second Amendment. One approach, adopted by the
Supreme Court in 1939 and by most federal courts of appeals, sees the
Second Amendment as preventing Congress from regulating firearms in a
manner that would keep states from adequately protecting themselves.

This "collective rights" approach rejects the idea that the Second
Amendment bestows on individuals a right to have guns. The alternative
view, adopted by the D.C. Circuit on Friday, sees the Second Amendment
as creating a right for individuals to have firearms.

Each approach is consistent with the text of the Second Amendment, and
each is supported by strong historical arguments about the original
meaning of the provision. The Second Amendment says: "A well regulated
Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of
the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Those who
take the collective rights approach focus on the initial language of
the provision, while those who take the individual rights approach
focus on the latter language.

Each side of the debate marshals impressive historical arguments about
what "militia" and "keep and bear arms" meant in the late 18th
century. In the past few years, two other federal courts of appeals
exhaustively reviewed this history, and one determined that the
Framers intended the individual rights approach, while the other read
history as supporting the collective rights approach.

The assumption in this debate, and one that the D.C. Circuit followed
Friday, is that gun control laws are unconstitutional if the
individual rights approach is followed. This assumption, though, has
no basis in constitutional law. No rights are absolute. Even the First
Amendment, which is written in the seemingly absolute language that
Congress shall make "no law" abridging freedom of speech or religion,
allows government regulation.

Therefore, under the individual rights approach, there still is the
question of what types of government regulations are appropriate.

For 70 years the Supreme Court has distinguished among constitutional
claims in deciding how closely to scrutinize laws and how much to
defer to legislatures. In instances where there is reason to distrust
the government, such as for laws discriminating on the basis of
race, "strict scrutiny" is used and the government can prevail only if
its action is necessary to achieve a compelling purpose.

But where there is little reason to doubt the legislatures' choices,
courts give great deference to the legislatures and uphold laws so
long as they are reasonably related to a legitimate government
purpose. For example, discrimination that is based on characteristics
such as age, disability and sexual orientation need to meet only this
more relaxed standard. Even rights enumerated in the Constitution,
such as property rights, generally receive only this relaxed level of
judicial review. For this reason, for 70 years, government regulation
of the economy to protect employees and consumers has been upheld in
the face of claims that it unduly restricts property rights.

In other words, even if the D.C. Circuit is right in holding that the
Second Amendment creates individual rights, that does not answer the
question as to the level of scrutiny to be used in evaluating gun
control laws. I believe that there is a strong argument that the
regulation of guns should be treated the same as other regulation of
property under modern constitutional law: The regulation should be
allowed so long as it is rationally related to achieving a legitimate
government purpose.

Under this standard, there is no doubt that the D.C. gun law is
constitutional. The city's government was pursuing the legitimate goal
of decreasing gun violence, and its means were certainly reasonable.

The Supreme Court will probably review the D.C. Circuit decision.
Whether the court takes the individual or the collective rights
approach, it should uphold the D.C. law and make clear that courts
will defer to legislatures in their regulation of firearms.

The writer is a professor of law and political science at Duke
University.



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"Second Wind for the Second Amendment" --from Reason Online

by Nancy

"Second Wind for the Second Amendment" --from Reason Online


> http://www.reason.com/news/show/119106.html
>
> Second Wind for the Second Amendment
>
> A federal appeals court revives the right to keep and bear arms.
>
> Jacob Sullum | March 14, 2007
>
> Last week, when a federal appeals court ruled that the District of
> Columbia's gun ban violates the right to "keep and bear arms," The New
> York Times reported that the judges were "interpreting the Second
> Amendment broadly." If they had interpreted the amendment in the
> normal, mainstream way, according to the Times, they would have
> concluded that it imposes no restrictions on gun control because it
> has nothing to do with individual rights.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
> The Washington Post called this ruling "radical." I suppose it is, in
> the sense that it goes to the root of what the Framers wanted to
> protect.
>
> (c) Copyright 2007 by Creators Syndicate Inc.


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If defending freedom is "radical", then I'm proud to be ----------------------

by Nancy

Second Amendment Is Freedom; Don't Compromise
By
Nancy Herrington



Although I didn't realize it at the time, I became interested in The Second Amendment as a child. No, not through reading schoolbooks. I learned about it the hard way. I grew up during the Vietnam War.

In the summer of 1965, a very close friend of mine left for Vietnam. It was the last time I ever saw him. It was his loss that, years later, would help me to understand the definition of freedom and that freedom, indeed, is not free. It was from him that I learned that the Second Amendment is not just about guns. From that day forward, the inanimate objects-- Guns-- have represented the very real ideal-- FREEDOM.

In 1977, I was blessed with a husband who liked firearms. He taught me how to shoot and took me hunting. He was a member of NRA and convinced me to join.

In 1989, we found out about Gun Owners of America and the no compromise approach to preserving the Second Amendment. We joined GOA and a state no-compromise group because we wanted to become more active in restoring/preserving that which my friend, and millions of other Americans fought and died for.

It is hard for me to understand why some people feel that compromise is acceptable when fighting for our Constitutional rights. There should be no compromising on that which so many American men and women fought and died. Every compromise is a step closer to desecrating what these Americans fought for. The anti gunners have referred to us as extremist because we choose to exercise and defend a constitutional right. There are those who have even referred to us as a "fringe element" because we choose the no-compromise path. I imagine there were those in the colonial times who regarded our founding fathers as extreme and even those who regarded them as the fringe element. Aren't you glad they didn't compromise? I am.



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GUN CONTROL LAWS : Ruling respects Constitution

by Nancy

GUN CONTROL LAWS

Ruling respects Constitution

By BOB BARR

http//www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2007/03/13/0314edbarr.html

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THE RIGHT THE LEFT FEARS

by Nancy

THE RIGHT THE LEFT FEARS

Court Rediscovers 2nd Amendment, Liberals Fear Other 'Rights' May Soon be Found
By Mac Johnson
Writer and medical researcher in Cambridge, MA
March 15, 2007
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19810


Tragedy struck leftists all across America last week when a federal
appeals court reviewing the District of Columbia's handgun ban, ruled
that the right of the people to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed
upon by the District. The court's inexplicable ruling was based on a
"radical" interpretation of the recently rediscovered 2nd Amendment to
the U.S. Constitution, which reads:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
infringed.

According to the Washington Post, which upon hearing of the decision had
a small editorial seizure it called "A Dangerous Ruling," the court's
plain reading of the Bill of Rights has given "a new and dangerous
meaning to the 2nd Amendment." Apparently, when the Post reads the
amendment according to the ancient and safe interpretation (which goes
all the way back to the 1970s) all it sees is:

The Population of the nanny State, being composed of irresponsible
rednecks, rejects, and retards, must not be allowed to have Arms.

"[T]his radical ruling will inevitably mean more people killed and
wounded as keeping guns out of the city becomes harder," the Post
continued, sagely foreseeing a day in the near future when the district
might not be the safe gunfree enclave of sanity that it now is. One
wonders if D.C. might someday even become the murder capital of the
United States without its protective cloak of gun control disarming its
law-abiding citizens.

The district's law-and-order mayor, Adrian Fenty, apparently outraged by
the disappointing decision, stated afterwards, "I am personally deeply
disappointed and quite frankly outraged by today's decision. Today's
decision flies in the face of laws that have helped decrease gun
violence in the District of Columbia." It's hard to argue with the mayor
when one looks at the cold hard facts: today's murder rate is just 26%
higher than it was when the gun ban was put in place in 1978, down from
a peak of just 128% higher in 1991 before a nationwide decline in crime
driven by demographics took hold. With results like that, I'm not sure
D.C. can afford to have its gun violence "decreased" any further.

But its not just D.C. that is at risk from this radical discovery of the
so-called "Bill of Rights" (if that's even its real name), the mayor is
also worried that the anarchy of Constitutional limits on government
power could spread, commenting: "It has national implications with
regard to gun control statutes across the country. It's the first time
that a federal court has said that the 2nd Amendment restricts or
prohibits gun control."

Of course, it's only the first time a federal source has said that the
Constitution restricts gun control if you don't count the 2nd Amendment
itself -- which is intended expressly to restrict or prohibit gun
control. But then this may be the first time a Federal court has read
that far into the Constitution -- it's so easy to get hung up trying to
find "separation of church and state" in the 1st Amendment, after all.

A number of sources on the left held up for praise in the decision the
one dissenting judge, Karen LeCraft Henderson, whose opinion that the
gun ban was constitutionally permissible was based on at least two
stellar deductions. The first was that since the District of Columbia is
not a state (as in "necessary to the security of a free State."), then
the 2nd Amendment did not apply in that part of America. This is a
wonderful precedent, not only for the District, but also for America's
other territories such a Puerto Rico.

According to this same logic, Amendments 14, 15, 19, 24 and 26 (among
others) do not apply in the District either, which means the District is
free to a) deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due
process of law, b) deny the vote to blacks, c) deny the vote to women,
d) institute a poll tax, and e) deny the vote based on age. Clearly,
Henderson deserves her new status as a liberal hero.

Henderson's second insight was that despite the right belonging to "the
people" in the amendment, it actually belonged only to the militia as an
organized military force. To believe this, you have to believe that the
United States is the only nation on Earth that felt a need to guarantee
its government, in writing, the right to have an army -- which is
possible, I suppose, if Jefferson foresaw the attitude of the modern
Democrat party towards the military.

The mystery of whether the amendment guarantees the people or the
military the right to have weapons perplexed a number of commentators
taken aback by the decision. Consider this verbal tailspin featured on
MSNBC:

"Now, the issue is 27 words. That's the 2nd Amendment's section on the
right to bear arms. I'm going to read the 27 words. They say 'a well
regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the
right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.' Now,
it's a long-standing legal question in America, and largely unresolved,
although partisans on both sides will say it is resolved but a majority
of scholars would say it isn't. What does that mean? Does that mean that
militias have the right to possess guns or individuals?"

Wow. If only those comments could have been limited to 27 words.

The Washington Post was not afflicted with such uncertainty, however,
stating that the amendment applied only to militias (suddenly so popular
with the media) and that the ruling was part of an "unconscionable
campaign, led by the National Rifle Association. to give individuals 2nd
Amendment rights." And you thought that campaign was led by the Founding
Fathers.

But what is the "militia"? It is not the army -- by contrast, it was
seen as an antidote to having to keep a standing army. It was defined at
the time of the Constitution's writing roughly as "all able-bodied male
citizens not in the regular military." (Theoretically it may thus be
constitutionally permissible to deny guns to women, old men, cripples,
and possibly fat people, but I have to admit I'm against this. These are
precisely the groups of people that might need a gun most for
self-defense, or possibly for procuring more food.) Viewed in this
light, the liberal response to the ruling is, essentially, the right
does not belong to the people, so much as it belongs to all civilians.

What the left does not get about the 2nd Amendment is that it is not
about the National Guard, or sporting firearms or gun collections. It
does not guarantee the government an army, nor does it guarantee
civilians the right to hunt and shoot skeet. It's about the right of the
people to maintain some portion of the ultimate power of government --
violence -- to themselves.

The Founding Fathers systematically democratized the powers of society
through the Constitution and Bill of Rights. They democratized the power
of law through the right to vote. They democratized the power of wealth
through the right to private property (since repealed by
environmentalists and courts). They democratized the power of ideas
through the right to free speech (since repealed by McCain/Feingold).
And they democratized the power of violence (or the capability to commit
it) through the right to bear arms (since repealed by "gun control").

The four great powers of man: law, money, thought and violence were thus
divided among the people and not reserved exclusively to the connected,
the rich, the approved, and the enlisted. That's the basis of our
Republic. That's America. And that is, apparently, a total surprise to
liberals.

But the deeper reason behind the hysteria over the decision is that for
decades the left has been able to make the Constitution into whatever it
wanted. The actual words did not matter. When words -- even just 27
words -- mean exactly what they say, then the power to dictate law from
a "living" Constitution disappears and liberals are reduced to trying to
persuade people that they are right -- a daunting task. When a court can
decide that the 2nd Amendment must be respected, the left is on a
slippery slope indeed. Who knows what amendment might be rediscovered
next? Personally, I vote for the 10th. Regardless, if the trend is
allowed to continue, it will be a disaster for the dictatorial left.
Thus, I predict the decision will be appealed.

Mr. Johnson, a writer and medical researcher in Cambridge, MA., is a
regular contributor to Human Events. His column generally appears on
Tuesdays. Archives and additional material can be found at
www.macjohnson.com.


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Barbour Signs Bill To Toughen Gun Laws For Felons
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Convicted felons will face stiffer penalties for possessing weapons or using guns while committing crimes, under two bills Gov. Haley Barbour signed March 13. Both new laws take effect July 1.

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COMMENTARY
Second Amendment Showdown
By TED CRUZ
March 14, 2007; Page A14

Last week's decision, striking down the District of Columbia's ban on guns as unconstitutional under the Second Amendment, flowed directly from the text, history and original understanding of the Constitution. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit's decision rejected the Ninth Circuit's "collective rights" theory and embraced instead the Fifth Circuit's holding that the Second Amendment protects individual rights. In so doing, the D.C. Circuit took a major step forward in protecting the rights of gun owners throughout the country.

In some ways, the decision should not be at all noteworthy or surprising. After all, the text of the Second Amendment explicitly protects "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms," and the D.C. gun ban amounted to a complete and total prohibition on citizens owning operational firearms in the District of Columbia. The challenged city ordinances prohibit the private possession of all handguns and also require that all long guns (i.e., rifles and shotguns) be disassembled or have trigger locks in place at all times. This latter requirement has no exceptions -- so that even if a violent crime is underway in your home, removing the trigger lock in self-defense or in defense of your family constitutes a crime.

No state in the union has a prohibition as draconian. Indeed, the constitutions of 44 states, like the federal Constitution, explicitly protect the individual right to keep and bear arms, and the legislatures of all 50 states are united in their rejection of bans on private handgun ownership. Forty-five states go even further, allowing private citizens to carry concealed handguns for self-defense.

So how is it that the District of Columbia could be so out of step with the rest of the nation and nonetheless arguably comply with the requirements of the Second Amendment? The answer that the federal district court seized upon -- like an earlier ruling from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California -- is a theory popularized recently by several law professors and gun-control advocates: Because the Second Amendment refers to "a well regulated Militia," the Constitution protects only the "collective right" of the militia and not the individual right of any citizen.

This creative theory, useful for advancing the policy goals of its advocates, runs contrary to the text of the Constitution, to the debates and original understanding of the Framers, to Supreme Court precedent, and to the widespread understanding of state courts and legislatures for the first 150 years of our nation's history. At the time of the founding, the "militia" was understood to consist of all able-bodied males armed with their own weapons; indeed, the Militia Act of 1792 not only permitted individual gun ownership, it required every man to "provide himself with a good musket or firelock . . . or with a good rifle."

If the "collective rights" theory were to prevail, the result would be that no individual in the U.S. could ever claim any right under the Second Amendment, but rather that inchoate right would exist only collectively and amorphously for state militias. Such an outcome effectively reads out of the Constitution what respected law professor Sanford Levinson famously described as, from the perspective of anti-gun advocates, that "embarrassing Second Amendment."

Because the "collective rights" theory is unfaithful to the Constitution and undermines the individual rights of all Americans, Texas took the lead among the states in supporting the plaintiffs in the D.C. gun suit. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott assembled a collation of 13 states (Texas, Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Utah and Wyoming) who together supported the Second Amendment, and the amici states presented oral argument in the D.C. Circuit in the companion case to this one defending the individual right to keep and bear arms.

Notably, every state, including Texas, believes that some regulations on firearms are both permissible and advisable; for example, the states are united in supporting restrictions on violent felons owning guns. But all of the amici states are likewise united in the belief that the Second Amendment means what it says, that the individual right to keep and bear arms cannot be completely abrogated as under the D.C. gun ban.

The District of Columbia has pledged to appeal, and this case could well find its way before the U.S. Supreme Court. If so, Texas and the rest of the amici states stand ready once again to support the Second Amendment, and we are confident that the Court will in turn faithfully uphold the individual constitutional rights of all Americans.

Mr. Cruz is the solicitor general of Texas. He authored two briefs and presented oral argument for the amici states supporting the Second Amendment in the D.C. Circuit



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