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Media Release: Gun Prohibitionists Admit Tough Laws Did Not Affect Murder Rates

by Nancy

Media Release: Gun Prohibitionists Admit Tough Laws Did Not Affect Murder Rates
Date: Dec 13, 2006 11:00 AM
Attachments: ATT1368738.txt

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Subject: [Wishlist] Media Release: Gun Prohibitionists Admit
Tough Laws
Did Not Affect Murder Rates
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:56:03 +1100
From: wishlist@lists.internode.on.net
Reply-To: wishlist@lists.internode.on.net
Organization: WiSH
To: <Wishlist@lists.internode.on.net>

The International Coalition for Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH) has
issued the following release:

*Media Release **December 14 2006***

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



Gun Prohibitionists Admit Tough Laws Did Not Affect Murder Rates

The International Coalition for Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH) has
welcomed new research showing that Australia's 1996 gun laws did not
have an impact on the pre-existing downwards trend in firearm homicides.

WiSH Chairwoman Samara McPhedran said "This study adds to the
ever-increasing body of evidence that the tough laws, bans, and buybacks
did not affect the ongoing decline in rates of murder using a firearm."

The results support peer-reviewed research co-authored by Ms McPhedran
and published earlier this year by the prestigious British Journal of
Criminology.

"Like our work, this research shows that the reforms may have affected
firearm suicide rates, which account for around 80 per cent of
firearm-related deaths. However, suicides using other methods also
started to drop in the late 1990's, which means we must be cautious
about drawing conclusions. It is highly likely that better funding for
suicide prevention contributed to overall declines."

"Anti-gun lobbyists have finally acknowledged that the facts demonstrate
the laws' lack of effect. This forces us to recall that the half billion
dollars spent on bans and buybacks came at the expense of mental
healthcare, early intervention strategies, social services, and
community policing," said Ms McPhedran.



*References:*

British Journal of Criminology:
http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/azl084v1

AIC: http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi151.html

ABC Law Report:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lawreport/stories/2006/1776336.htm

A pdf of this release is available from:

http://www.ic-wish.org/WiSH%20Gun%20Prohibitionists%20Admit%20Tough%20La
ws%20Did%20Not%20Affect%20Murder%20PR%20141206.pdf




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Letter: Canadians being misled about gun ownership, dangers

by Nancy

Letter: Canadians being misled about gun ownership, dangers
Date: Dec 13, 2006 1:44 PM
PUBLICATION: The Daily Gleaner (Fredericton)
DATE: 2006.12.13
PAGE: C7
BYLINE: Letters
SECTION: OPINION

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Canadians being misled about gun ownership, dangers

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As a professional and a firearms owner in Canada, I take great exception
to the methods employed by the Liberal Party of Canada in misleading the
Canadian population regarding firearms.

When Allan Rock started the process with bill C68 in the late 1990s, he
stated that registration of long arms would assist with misuse of
firearms in Canada and was not the beginning of a confiscation process.
We in the firearms community did not believe him but as legal owners of
firearms we complied with the law.

The long gun registry has been shown to be a money pit that has done
nothing to lower crime in Canada. Restricted firearms have always been
registered and as such the long gun registry had no effect on restricted
firearms.

During the last election Paul Martin stated in Toronto that the Liberal
Party would ban guns in Canada. This statement was meant to drive
emotions based on the gang-related shooting in Toronto. Banning firearms
does nothing to the criminal element. In fact with fewer legal firearms
in circulation with law- abiding citizens firearms crime will increase
as there is no deterrent in place. This has been shown in England that
does not allow personal ownership of firearms and gun crime has
increased 30 per cent since firearms were outlawed.

Now the Liberal Party at their convention misled the population once
again in their structuring of a resolution (42) stating that:

WHEREAS automatic and semi-automatic weapons are illegal for hunting
purposes and WHEREAS automatic and semi-automatic weapons do not support
the hunting culture found in all parts of Canada.

A couple of points of clarification:
1. Automatic firearms are not available in Canada
2. Semi-automatic firearms are legal for hunting in Canada (this
includes shotguns, centre fire rifles and 22s)

Since the Liberals could be in power again soon, perhaps, next year, it
is time the legal firearms owners (two million of them) stand up for
their rights and do not allow the Liberal Party to confiscate their
property. The Canadian Shooting Sports Association located in Ottawa is
our voice. Go to their website www:cdnshootingsports.org and support
them and yourself.

Tim Kairns
Fredericton




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Concealed Weapons in the Wilderness

by Nancy


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18203






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An increase in women hunters was the focus of an ABC World News report

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ABC WORLD NEWS . . . An increase in women hunters was the focus of an ABC World News report last week. ABC reporter Bill Redeker, in response to new statistics

http://www.nssf.org/news/PR_idx.cfm?PRloc=common/PR/&PR=101806.cfm

reported by NSSF, spotlighted efforts to recruit women and youth hunters and discussed hunting's role in conservation. Watch the report at ABCNews.com.


http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/US/story?id=2702436&page=1

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Too Bad Dad didn't have a self defense weapon to protect himself and his beloved Daughter.

by Nancy

Dad, daughter beaten as thief fires bullet into floor,
Date: Dec 11, 2006 9:26 AM
PUBLICATION: The Province
DATE: 2006.12.11
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: A9
BYLINE: Ethan Baron
SOURCE: The Province
ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: Wayne Leidenfrost, The Province / This is
thehouse on East 52nd Street in Vancouver that experienced a home
invasion with shots fired last night.
WORD COUNT: 260

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Home-invaders flee with $4,000: Dad, daughter beaten as thief fires
bullet into floor, demanding more cash

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A Vancouver teen feared she'd be killed when a trio of armed
home-invaders held a gun to her head and demanded money from her father.


The men, all wearing black bandanas over their faces, with black hoodies
and black gloves, kicked in the door to her home at East 52nd Avenue
near Main Street around 12:15 a.m. yesterday.

"I was on our couch in the living room," said the 18-year-old, a Douglas
College student on a soccer scholarship.

All three men carried handguns, she said.

"My dad was sleeping. I was yelling and screaming for him to come out.
Then they threw me on the ground."

When her father emerged from his bedroom, he too was thrown to the
floor.

"They demanded we give them money," she said. "They asked, 'Where's
the
money? Where's the money?'"

One man held a pistol to her head and said he'd kill her if her father
didn't give them cash. She believed the man would shoot her, she said.

Her father was pistol-whipped several times and kicked, and led the
assailants to his bedroom, where he gave them about $4,000, money he
kept for emergencies, she said.

One of the men shot a bullet into the floor and demanded more cash.

"We told them we didn't have any more money," she said. "That's
when
they kicked me in the face because they got angry. They said, 'You're
lying! You're lying!'"

With no more money forthcoming, the men left, one shooting into the
living-room wall on the way out.

The men were Asian, about five foot six, and spoke unaccented English,
she said.

Her father, 49, who operates a salvage business using his pickup truck,
needed stitches to close wounds to his scalp. The daughter received
contusions to her face.

"I feel OK," she said. "I'm happy that I'm alive and my dad's
alive."

Police believe there "may have been something nefarious" going on in the
home that attracted the home-invaders, said Const. Tim Fanning.

The daughter said she wasn't aware of any illegal activity in the home
she shares with her father. The home-invaders didn't take her laptop or
any of the electronic equipment in the house.

"I have no clue why they came," she said.





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making criminals out of cops

by Nancy

Officer must go to court to face gun charges
Date: Dec 11, 2006 9:28 AM
PUBLICATION: The Hamilton Spectator
DATE: 2006.12.11
EDITION: Final
SECTION: Local
PAGE: A9
SOURCE: The Hamilton Spectator
WORD COUNT: 66

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Officer must go to court to face gun charges

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A Toronto police officer living in Oakville is facing charges related to
the unauthorized possession of a firearm.

Police said the officer turned himself in after an investigation by
police was completed last week. It is alleged he had an unregistered
handgun.

The 41-year-old officer will appear in court Jan. 9 to answer to the
charges.

The officer is facing two counts of unauthorized possession of a firearm
and one count of unauthorized possession of a prohibited device.




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Subject: [wagc-ut] Holly Mullen rails on teachers and gun owners

by WAGC

Subject: [wagc-ut] Holly Mullen rails on teachers and gun owners


Charles Hardy
Public Policy Director
GOUtah!
801-523-3817
bagpiper@gawab.com

Dear Salt Lake Tribune,

I write to protest Holly Mullen's latest article. What appears to be a
crass attempt at humor at the expense of those Utah teachers who choose to
legally own guns not only falls flat, but is offensive on a number of
fronts.

I doubt Ms. Mullen would ever write, nor would the SLTribune, print a column
that attempted to get laughs by drawing on negative and false stereotypes of
sexual, religious, or racial minorities. Certainly in this day and age of
political correctness and sensitivity neither Ms. Mullen, nor the SLTribune,
would attempt to get laughs by questioning the sexual orientation of female
gym teachers. But calling into question the masculinity and mental
stability of male home ec teachers is acceptable?

I realize that gun owners are among the last group that may be safely
ridiculed and slandered in the popular press. But when did teachers get
added to the mix?

Through her abject failure to be at all funny, Ms. Mullen reminds us that
humor must contain some portion of truth. In ten years of having a
non-discriminatory permit system to allow all law abiding citizens--without
regard to race, religion, sex, income level, sexual preference, political
connections, etc--to legally carry a concealed weapon, and with over 80,000
such permits now valid, Ms. Mullen cannot point to a SINGLE incident of ANY
teacher misusing a firearm in the manner she suggested in her article. In
fact, taking into account yesterday's report on a dozen police officers
being decertified by POST, Utahns are MORE likely to be the victim of sexual
misconduct by a teacher OR a sworn police officer than to be the victim of a
teacher with a concealed weapons permit unlawfully using deadly force.

Indeed, as the parent of school-age children whom I entrust to professional
educators every school day, I think Ms. Mullen's pathetic attempt at writing
is more of an insult to teachers than to gun owners. I am left wondering
whether her article is not a subtle attempt to encourage home schooling so
as to avoid such dangerous creatures as she thinks inhabit the payroll of
Utah's schools.

I also point out that neither Ms. Mullen NOR the SLTribune, nor even school
districts had ANY concerns about private citizens carrying concealed weapons
back when those who could obtain permits was more or less restricted to a
few hundred politically well connected and/or high income white businessmen.
ONLY, since the discriminatory aspects of the permit process were reformed
and permits have been issued based on the content of character, rather than
the color of skin, size of bank account, or the names in one's Rolodex have
school districts, newspapers, and columnists found reason to be concerned
with legally concealed weapons. Frankly, the clear and bigoted
implications of that correlation belie attitudes more befitted the hooded
segregationists of less enlightened eras than anyone claiming civility in
21st century America at it appears such concerns have far more to do with
WHO is carrying guns, than with WHERE those guns are carried. .

I request that a retraction and an apology to both teachers AND Utah's
law-abiding gun owners be printed and that Ms. Mullen be reprimanded for
such hurtful hate speech directed at a couple of Utah's most responsible
groups of persons. A refresher course on diversity and sensitivity might
also be in order for Ms. Mullen to remind her to respect, rather than mock
and ridicule, differing cultures and points of view, including Utah's native
conservative, gun loving culture.

Sincerely

Charles Hardy
GOUtah!


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Granny get your gun! 90-year-old bags her buck

by Nancy

Granny get your gun! 90-year-old bags her buck
Date: Dec 9, 2006 12:03 PM
PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun
DATE: 2006.12.09
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: 28
ILLUSTRATION: photo by Bev Ware, CP Ruby Bower, 90, shows off the
antlers of the buck she shot last month. It was the fifth deer she has
bagged in the past 10 years.
BYLINE: CP
DATELINE: LOWER OHIO, N.S.
WORD COUNT: 171

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Granny get your gun! 90-year-old bags her buck

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Ruby Bower stared down the barrel of the rifle in her hand and lined the
deer up in the crosshairs of the scope.

Then the great-great-grandmother pulled the trigger. The 56-kilogram
buck instantly dropped to the ground.

The bullet hit him in the neck, slit through his heart and came out the
other side.

"It wasn't a good shot, but it was fatal and it didn't waste any meat,"
the 90-year-old said.

This was the fifth deer the resident of Lower Ohio has bagged in the
past decade.

Bower learned to shoot from her father when she was just a little girl.
"When I was younger I always hunted rabbits. I'd set a snare then shoot
it with my little .22. I was a pretty good crack shot with that," she
grins.

Later on, she used that skill to feed her family after her husband of 14
years deserted the young mother of four.

Sixteen years ago, when Bower was just 74, her son-in-law, Glenwood
MacKay, built her a blind on his nearby property and that's where she
goes every season.

In early November, after seven days of sitting in that blind wrapped in
old blankets and seeing nothing at all, her luck changed.

Now Bower is going to mount the antlers on a wooden plaque shaped like a
shield. It'll hang on the wall with other trophies and right beside the
other set of antlers from an eight-point buck she shot eleven years ago.




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JPFO ALERT: New Column in Concealed Carry Magazine

by Nancy

JPFO ALERT: New Column in Concealed Carry Magazine
Date: Dec 8, 2006 2:09 PM
ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

December 6, 2006

JPFO ALERT: New Column in Concealed Carry Magazine

JPFO is proud to announce that we have begun publishing
a regular column in Concealed Carry Magazine. The column,
entitled "License to Fear," begins running with this month's
issue. In our premier column, we discuss the effects of CCW
permits and licensing. You can view the article in PDF
(Adobe Acrobat) format here: www.jpfo.org/ccm200612.pdf .

Please take a moment to visit Concealed Carry Magazine at
www.concealedcarrymag.com . If you like what you see, you
can join up online. And tell 'em JPFO sent you!

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Life for man who killed two in Toronto nightclub

by Nancy

Too bad he's not getting the electric chair

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Life for man who killed two in Toronto nightclub
Date: Dec 8, 2006 10:27 AM
DATE: 2006.12.07
CATEGORY: Quebec-Ontario regional general news
PUBLICATION: cpw
WORD COUNT: 196

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Man who killed two in hail of bullets in Toronto nightclub gets life
sentence

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TORONTO (CP) _ A long-time fugitive who peppered a nightclub dance floor
with bullets, killing two people and injuring four others, has been
sentenced to life in prison with no hope of parole for 15 years.

Dudley Forbes showed no regard for people's lives on Sept. 17, 1994 as
he fired at least 14 bullets inside and outside an after-hours
nightclub, Justice Brian Trafford said Thursday in sentencing Forbes.

``People who went there for an enjoyable night with friends were
panic-stricken, screaming in fear, running for safety,'' the judge said.


Donovan Samuda, 29, and Howard Deacon, 37, were killed.

Forbes' senseless crime grew out of his history of emotionally and
physically abusing Lorna Graham, his ex-girlfriend and mother of his
boy, who was the real target of his venom that night, the judge said.

Trafford also sentenced Forbes to a further concurrent 10 years for
aggravated assault in a horrific 1993 knife attack on Graham in the
hallway of her apartment building, where he stabbed her 13 times.

Forbes, 44, had first pleaded not guilty to two counts of first-degree
murder and four of attempted murder.

But after the Crown presented its case, he made a surprising guilty plea
to two counts of second-degree murder and one of aggravated assault.

He had remained on the loose for 10 years before being arrested in
Kingston, Jamaica.





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Here come the judge

by knute

Someone might question if this judge has the
word,(consecutive) in his vocabulary. He must
just Liberal.

Posted on Dec 8, 2006, 6:56 PM

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only police should have guns ?????

by Nancy

Mountie's gun charge postponed till Dec. 20
Date: Dec 8, 2006 10:23 AM
PUBLICATION: The Chronicle-Herald
DATE: 2006.12.08
SECTION: NovaScotia
PAGE: B5
BYLINE: Beverley Ware South Shore Bureau
WORD COUNT: 297

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Mountie's gun charge postponed till Dec. 20

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The case of a Lunenburg County Mountie charged with careless use of her
semi-automatic pistol will go back before a Bridgewater judge in two
weeks.

Const. Adree Mohammed Zahara, 40, of Chester Grant Road was arrested
Oct. 17 and spent the night in police custody.

She was released on a recognizance the next day pending her appearance
Wednesday in Bridgewater provincial court.

The officer's lawyer, David Bright, told Judge Anne Crawford he has
talked with prosecutor Chris Nicholson, who has been brought in from
Halifax to handle the case. Mr. Bright said they may be able to resolve
the case and are bringing it back before the judge Dec. 20. In the
meantime, Const. Zahara must continue to abide by the terms of the
undertaking she signed when she was released in October, which
prohibited her from having any contact with Chuck Simm, an RCMP officer
with the Chester detachment, and Graham Cooke, a Mountie with the
Lilydale detachment, and ordered her to stay away from their homes.

The document has been amended to allow her to have contact with Const.
Cooke.

Other conditions of her release are to notify Staff Sgt. Steve Mills of
any change in her address or employment, to surrender her firearm to the
RCMP and not to use alcohol or illegal drugs.

When she signed the undertaking, Const. Zahara also promised not to
enter her home until the RCMP had searched it and to live with Dr.
Jolene Jarvis in East River.

RCMP spokesman Sgt. Frank Skidmore said that in October, several shots
from a police pistol blasted into a wall of Const. Zahara's home. He
said the gun was never pointed at anyone and no one was hurt.

Sgt. Skidmore did not name Const. Zahara at the time because she had not
been charged, but he did say the matter involved a female officer and a
male officer who are former partners.(




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CCRKBA CHALLENGES CONYERS TO CLOSE POLIcE GUN LOOPHOLE

by Nancy

CCRKBA CHALLENGES CONYERS TO CLOSE ‘POLICE GUN LOOPHOLE’
BELLEVUE, WA – The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms today challenged incoming House Judiciary Chairman Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) to “close a real loophole” that seems to be putting quite a few guns on the street, particularly in his own congressional district.

“Conyers is an avowed anti-gunner who believes only cops should have guns,” observed CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “Well, in the past six months, in and around his hometown of Detroit, police have lost at least five guns, including a submachine gun and an M4 semiautomatic rifle that are still missing. Instead of looking for ways to restrict our gun rights, maybe Mr. Conyers ought to be looking for those missing guns.

“Of course,” Gottlieb said, “the typical Conyers approach would be to hold every cop in the country responsible and institute some one-size-fits-all regulation for how police take care of their firearms. That would be ridiculous. The overwhelming majority of lawmen and women are responsible with their firearms. So, too, are the majority of gun owners. They’re not criminals and should not be treated like they are, yet gun laws Conyers and his cronies have supported over the years do exactly that. ”

“For years,” said CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron, “anti-gunners have campaigned against a mythical gun show loophole. A Department of Justice study of state and federal prison inmates found that less than one percent of these criminals got their guns from gun shows, and the anti-gunners know it. But instead of going after criminals, they use the crimes these thugs commit as an excuse to attack the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

“This campaign against gun shows is a fraud,” Waldron added, “designed only to fool American citizens into believing that something is being done about keeping guns out of the wrong hands. It’s a deplorable charade.”

“We’ve still got a reward posted for the recovery of anti-gun Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske’s stolen pistol,” Gottlieb noted. “It was taken from his car, parked on a downtown Seattle street in 2004 while he and his wife were shopping. There have been firearms stolen from SWAT vehicles, guns lost by cops in rest rooms, and yet the gun control crowd insists that the problem is with gun shows and law-abiding gun owners.

“The only loophole,” Gottlieb said, “lies in the collective imagination of Conyers and his ilk. Unlike them, we would never hold every cop responsible for the lapses of a few, same as we don’t hold all gun owners responsible for crimes committed by armed criminals. Every time one of these thefts happens, it reflects badly on every over-worked, under-appreciated, often under-paid police officer and sheriff’s deputy in the country. Holding all of them responsible is as silly as blaming gun shows and gun owners for this country’s crime problem.”


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Only the military should have guns????????????????

by Nancy

U.S. Ranger gave me AK-47: robber:
Date: Dec 9, 2006 11:54 AM
PUBLICATION: National Post
DATE: 2006.12.09
EDITION: All but Toronto
SECTION: News
PAGE: A10
BYLINE: David Bowermaster
SOURCE: McClatchy Newspapers
DATELINE: TACOMA, Wash.
ILLUSTRATION: Black & White Photo: FBI / Luke Sommer is a dual citizen.
NOTE: Ran with fact box "In His Own Words" which has been appendedto the
story.
WORD COUNT: 503

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U.S. Ranger gave me AK-47: robber: Canadian fighting extradition
fingered as heist ringleader

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TACOMA, Wash. - A former U.S. Army Ranger recruited people to rob a
bank, gave them loaded semi-automatic handguns and told them to lob a
grenade at police if officers arrived, a man involved in the heist told
investigators.

Luke Sommer, a dual American-Canadian from Peachland, B.C., was the
leader of the heist, according to Chad Palmer who was charged with
taking part in the robbery of a Tacoma bank in August and has pleaded
guilty to two charges. He has also provided investigators with details
of Mr. Sommer's alleged role.

Mr. Sommer was arrested in Canada a few days after the robbery and is
under house arrest at his mother's home. He is fighting extradition to
the United States. Mr. Sommer has not directly admitted his role, but
said this week that if he did organize the robbery, it was part of an
audacious plan to use the notoriety he would gain to expose war crimes
by the U.S. military in Iraq in 2004 and Afghanistan in 2005.

Palmer's admissions are a major break in the government's investigation.
He is the first of the five men accused of direct involvement in the
robbery to admit his role, and it appears he is providing critical
details to investigators about how the bank robbery was planned and
executed.

A private 1st class from Chesapeake, Va., Palmer, 21, pleaded guilty on
Thursday in U.S. District Court in Tacoma to one count of armed bank
robbery and one count of brandishing a machine gun during a crime of
violence.

Palmer told investigators that Mr. Sommer recruited him and the others
to take part in the robbery of a Bank of America branch.

At 5:15 p.m. on Aug. 7, four masked gunmen carrying AK-47s and
semi-automatic handguns stormed the bank and stole $54,000. They then
made off in a getaway car driven by a fifth man. One day before the
robbery, Palmer told investigators, Mr. Sommer gave him a loaded,
fully-automatic AK-47 to use during the heist. Palmer said Mr. Sommer
also provided loaded semi-automatic handguns to other participants.

Palmer told investigators the robbers inside the bank wore soft body
armor to protect themselves in case of a shootout with police.

Mr. Sommer also proposed that Palmer throw a hand grenade at the police
if law-enforcement officers arrived during the heist but Palmer
declined, according to prosecutors.

Government filings in the case do not indicate that investigators have
evidence that any of the alleged robbers had explosives during the raid.


However, Richard Olinger, another Army Ranger who is a friend of Mr.
Sommer, pleaded guilty last month to storing two hand grenades and a
homemade bomb for Mr. Sommer in a storage locker in Parkland a few days
before the robbery.

Palmer also discussed Mr. Sommer's motives with investigators. According
to Palmer, Mr. Sommer told him that he wanted to use the proceeds of the
robbery to start a crime family to rival the Hell's Angels in British
Columbia.

IN HIS OWN WORDS

Alleged bank robber and former U.S. Army Ranger Luke Sommer keeps a
blog. Get the details and more on this story under online extras.;
nationalpost.com




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Merry Christmas All !

by Nancy

best wishes and safety for the coming new year!

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JPFO ALERT: The Wrong Rabbi

by Nancy

JPFO ALERT: The Wrong Rabbi
Date: Dec 12, 2006 10:21 AM
ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

December 12, 2006

JPFO ALERT: The Wrong Rabbi

Recently the Christmas trees that graced the Seattle-Tacoma
International Airport for the past 25 years were removed.
The reason? Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky threatened to sue if the
trees weren't "balanced out" by a Menorah to honor the Jewish
holiday of Chanuka.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2715008&page=1

The airport decided removing the trees was the only viable
solution. Explains Patricia Davis, president of the Seattle
Port Commission, "We were faced with the choice of spending
unknown amounts of the public's money on litigation, or, in
the next few days, trying to figure out how to accommodate
all the cultures in our society."

Rabbi Bogomilsky is reportedly "appalled" at the result.

One wonders what, exactly, the Rabbi thought would happen.
He threatened the airport with a lawsuit if it did not include
a symbol of his religion.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of religions within the
United States alone, many of which celebrate a holiday on or
around December 25. Had the airport bowed to the Rabbi's
demands, it is a virtual certainty that representatives of
many of those religions would follow suit.

The Rabbi's demand to add a Jewish holiday symbol to the
airport's Christmas display was both ridiculous and
short-sighted. In his quest for "equal" holiday
representation, he only succeeded in eliminating from the
public eye a symbol of peace, charity, fellowship and love.

As it happens, the Rabbi came on Michael Medved's national
radio show on December 11 and admitted that he was wrong.
He forthrightly stated that he did not ever want the Christmas
trees actually removed, that the whole issue got out of hand.
He admitted that he had not thought about the results of
threatening a lawsuit, and he frankly regretted everything
he did. The Rabbi now wants the Christmas trees restored,
with or without a Menorah.
From JPFO's perspective, the key message for Jews is not to
worry so much about "equal time" for the Menorah. Rather,
it is important for Jews -- and everyone -- to respect and be
thankful for the Christian Americans who established a nation
with a Bill of Rights and a welcoming culture of individual
freedom that have provided the safest place on Earth for
minorities of all types.

Now what we need to do -- whether gathered around the Menorah
or the Christmas Tree -- is pledge to join together to
protect our American values and way of life.

We can start on America's first holy day in December: Bill
of Rights Day, December 15.

- The Liberty Crew

Update: Just prior to sending this alert, we received the
following news story: Trees Being Returned to SeaTac Airport
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061212/D8LV9I1G0.html




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5,194 HOMICIDES IN 9 YEARS: 2.27% OF GUNS USED WERE REGISTERED

by Nancy

5,194 HOMICIDES IN 9 YEARS: 2.27% OF GUNS USED WERE REGISTERED
Date: Dec 7, 2006 12:20 PM
NEWS RELEASE - December 7, 2006
5,194 HOMICIDES IN 9 YEARS: 2.27% OF GUNS USED WERE REGISTERED
"Statistics Canada tables also show only 2.1% of murderers had a valid
firearms licence."
http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/breitkreuzgpress/2006/dec7.htm




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Letter: Confiscating guns isn't the answer

by Nancy :)

Letter: Confiscating guns isn't the answer
Date: Dec 7, 2006 1:50 PM
PUBLICATION: The Whitehorse Star
DATE: 2006.12.06
SECTION: Opinion
PAGE: 11
WORD COUNT: 130

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Confiscating guns isn't the answer

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If banning and confiscating legally-owned pistols were the answer,
England wouldn't be a place where gun crime was approaching and even
exceeding U.S. levels.

If banning and confiscating legally-owned semi-automatic rifles were the
answer, Australia wouldn't be looking at skyrocketting armed robbery
rates.

If lots and lots of guns in civilian homes caused deadly crime,
Switzerland wouldn't be one of the most boringly safe places in Europe.

If a future Liberal government does go through with its promise of
banning and confiscating pistols, that would mean chasing urban and
Quebec votes from Canadians less trusted by our government than the
citizens of countries like Paraguay, Singapore, Taiwan, Lithuania,
Andorra, Argentina, and El Salvador, just to name a few.

Those citizens are trusted by their countries. It's scary what
politicians will do to get back into power.

Ana Pereira




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Women take time to target Self-defense

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Firearm skills can fend off muggings, car jackings

http://www.cortezjournal.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news061205_2.htm

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Positive gun article from U of U newspaper

by Nancy :)

Positive gun article from U of U newspaper
Date: Dec 6, 2006 2:37 PM
Compatriots,
Can you imagine what a fantastic shooter we would all be if we
practiced 10 hours a week like this kid? Interesting story. Pancho V.


Top gun
Student shooter aims for 2012 Olympics
By: Ana Breton
Issue date: 12/6/06 Section: News


You're standing in the middle of the Olympics Training Center, just you and
your pistol, pointed straight at the target. One of your eyes is closed; the
other is focused on the quarter-sized circle more than a football field away
that you have to hit.

Judges, who are only waiting to see if you hit the target, surround you.
They roll their eyes impatiently. They have 80 more people to judge.

Suddenly, you realize the coach of the National Shooting Team is looking
over your shoulder. You have fewer than two minutes to make the shot.

No pressure.

You aim. You shoot. It's dead on.

Unfortunately, you have no time to celebrate; you have to do it 60 more
times.

This was what Nicholas Zachman, a senior in political science and
international studies, experienced last weekend during a shooting
competition in Colorado Springs, Colo.

Zachman was the only member from the U Collegiate Pistol Team to compete in
the match, which acted as a tryout for the Pan American Games in Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil.

And although Zachman didn't qualify, he said it was the biggest match of his
career. He placed 16th in the nation.

"It was such an important match, I didn't know what to do," he said.
"Luckily, when the national coach was looking at me, I did well, so
hopefully I left a good impression."

And Zachman has been leaving good impressions since the very beginning.

He first picked up a pistol two years ago, when a friend suggested he take a
marksmanship class to fulfill the extra credit hour his degree required.

Other than shooting black powder guns as a child, Zachman had never shot a
pistol before he enrolled in the class.

Now, he is the president of the U Pistol Team.

"Turns out I had a knack for it," he said, adding that shooting is all
about
concentration.

"It's not difficult, you just have to subject yourself to focus,"
he said.
"You just have to push everything to the back of your mind because you can't
think of anything else or else it hurts your shooting."

Zachman trains nine to 10 hours a week (only four during finals). So far, he
has competed in more than 20 local and national matches each year.

His favorite match memories include shooting at the New York Military
Academy and at a range in Georgia.

"The morning was cool and foggy in Georgia," he said. "It reminded
me a lot
of what it would have been like in the Civil War."

His next competition is the preliminary tryouts for the Olympics on Jan. 5.

Zachman said he's always wanted to be an Olympian. However, he would have to
quit school to save up to go to Beijing in 2008.

"Beijing (is) out of question," he said. "I would love to go in 2012,
but it
may be too far in advance. It all depends what I want to do as a career."

Until then, he's saving up and working two jobs--assisting operations during
the graveyard shift at LDS Hospital and installing video systems for General
Communication.

Team adviser Matt DeLong said Zachman has a serious shot for the 2012
Olympics.

"He is a gifted and dedicated shooter," DeLong said. "If he musters
the
mental game, he will be a force to be reckoned with."

If professional shooting doesn't work out, Zachman said he would like to
work for the government in a state department job. When he graduates, he
plans to enlist in the army and serve for at least four years.

"I love shooting because I get a feeling of self control. At that moment,
when I'm shooting, I know that I'm controlling all of my thoughts,"
he said.
"It's almost like a Zen artist. Like a feeling that you can conquer
anything."



James D. "Mitch" Vilos
Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 1148
Centerville, Utah 84014
Local Tel.No.: (801)295-3340
Mobile: (801)560-7117
1(800)530-0222
Practice Concentrating in Accidents and Personal Injury, Insurance Law,
Medical Malpractice, Defective Products, Workplace Injuries (not Worker's
Compensation), and Firearms Law (representation of gun owners in criminal
actions, and expungements).




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Canada: Armed Homeowner shoots one of two home invaders

by nancy

Home invaded; man shot
Date: Dec 5, 2006 9:26 AM
PUBLICATION: The Whitehorse Star
DATE: 2006.12.04
SECTION: Yukon
PAGE: 4
WORD COUNT: 246

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Home invaded; man shot

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A 34-year-old Watson Lake man remains in a Vancouver hospital recovering
from a gunshot wound to his right thigh.

The man was sent to Vancouver after having been shot during a home
invasion in the southeast Yukon community on Saturday.

Watson Lake RCMP were called to a nearby Upper Liard home at at 7 a.m.
They had been told a person had been injured.

Officers and medical personnel found two men injured, one suffering from
a gunshot wound. The homeowner also had injuries such as bruising and
cuts.

As they continued their investigation, police learned two men had gone
into the house and assaulted its owner.

The homeowner eventually managed to free himself, get a firearm and
shoot one of the two men in his house while the other escaped.

Three long-barrel firearms were later seized from the home, Grant
MacDonald, the acting M Division RCMP spokesman, said this morning. Both
injured men were taken to Watson Lake Hospital before being transferred
to Whitehorse General Hospital (WGH).

While the shooting victim was later medivaced to Vancouver for his
serious injury, he was in stable condition, WGH spokeswoman Val Pike
said this morning.

Meanwhile, the 35-year-old homeowner was treated overnight at WGH for
head trauma, bruising and cuts before being released on Sunday, she
said.

As police continue their investigation, MacDonald said they will look at
whether the three Watson Lake men knew one another, details such as how
they entered the home and what type of charges could be laid.

"The invasion is believed to be an isolated incident," MacDonald said.

RCMP are also continuing to search for the second man involved, though a
description was not available this morning.

MacDonald noted the public's assistance isn't required at this time, but
anyone with information can call RCMP or Crime Stoppers at
1-800-222-8477.




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Letter: Other ways to kill

by nancy

Letter: Other ways to kill
Date: Dec 4, 2006 11:42 AM
PUBLICATION: The Province
DATE: 2006.12.03
EDITION: Final
SECTION: Editorial
PAGE: A21
BYLINE: Colin Parkinson
SOURCE: The Province
WORD COUNT: 76

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Other ways to kill

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Statistics Canada reports that of the 622 homicides in 2004, 172 were by
firearm.

So, can we expect The Province will give equal time to the other
gruesome ways that people kill each other?

One would think by your reporting that only those killed or injured by a
firearm are worth talking about.

If you are merely beaten, stabbed, strangled or burned to death, then it
seems barely newsworthy.

I guess some of the dead are more equal than others?

Of the 172 killed, less than four per cent were by way of legally
registered firearms, of which there are at least two million.

Going by these figures, the safest place you can be is a gun range,
something insurers understand.

Colin Parkinson, North Vancouver




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Re: "Knife sales must be controlled," Letters, Nov. 30.

by nancy

Re: "Knife sales must be controlled," Letters, Nov. 30.
Date: Dec 4, 2006 9:10 AM
PUBLICATION: Edmonton Journal
DATE: 2006.12.04
EDITION: Final
SECTION: Letters
PAGE: A19
BYLINE: Sue Oancia-Andersen
SOURCE: The Edmonton Journal
WORD COUNT: 89

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Too many controls

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Re: "Knife sales must be controlled," by Elke Blodgett, Letters, Nov.
30.

The thought that killings can be reduced or eliminated by controlling
the sale of knives is a knee-jerk reaction to a far more complicated
social issue.

It isn't the weapons that need to be controlled; it's the behaviour of
the violent members of society that must be addressed. We have gun
control, sort of, yet the shootings continue.

So now we'll need knife control, hammer control, scissor control,
screwdriver control and control of whatever else can be used as a
weapon.

Sue Oancia-Andersen, Edmonton




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TAKE OUR GUNS - TAKE OUR LIVES

by Nancy

TAKE OUR GUNS - TAKE OUR LIVES
By Jim R. Schwiesow

November 27, 2006

NewsWithViews.com

http://www.newswithviews.com/Schwiesow/jim8.htm



Tell me when did liberty ever exist when the sword and the purse were given up? --Patrick Henry





Patrick Henry led us into this column, and he will take us out,

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect anyone who approaches that jewel! Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force, and whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined!”

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Jim Schwiesow is a retired sheriff with 46 years of law enforcement service. He served with the Unites States Army with the occupation forces in post war Berlin, Germany, and has a total of nine years of military service, which includes six years in the U.S. Army Reserve.

His law enforcement service includes: three years in the military police, fifteen years as an Iowa municipal police officer, and twenty-eight years as the duly elected sheriff of Sioux County, Iowa.

Jim has written a number of articles, which have been published in various professional law enforcement journals


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Head of NRA touts gunmaker

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Head of NRA touts gunmaker
Date: Nov 30, 2006 9:45 PM



http://www.masslive.com/business/republican/index.ssf?/base/business-1/116487899191340.xml&coll=1&thispage=1





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Letter: Gun control does not work

by Nancy

Letter: Gun control does not work
Date: Nov 30, 2006 8:45 AM
PUBLICATION: The Toronto Star
DATE: 2006.11.30
EDITION: ONT
SECTION: Letter
PAGE: A25
BYLINE:
WORD COUNT: 241

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Gun control does not work

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Liberals, Bloc join gun-control call, thestar.com, Nov. 28.

I continue to believe more strongly each time that I see it that reputed
"educated" and "intelligent" people continue to advocate and
push
solutions to problems that will not solve, let alone address, the root
causes of the issues in the first place.

I can appreciate the opposition wanting to score political points, yet
using the increasing amounts of criminal activity with illegal firearms
as a raison d'etre to ban legal firearms, when it has been clearly shown
in the past to be a complete failure, leads me to question the
intelligence and education of the Liberals and BQ.

Truly looking at the issue outside of party lines is necessary. The
Conservatives are not advocating relinquishing any control in regards to
guns, as is regularlly claimed by opposition groups.

The focus here is two-fold, firstly to rework the existing gun licensing
system to do a better job of preventing unstable people from getting
firearms and the second issue is criminal use of firearms which remain
unregistered and unregulated. How are tighter controls going to prevent
either? They aren't.

Continuing to strike at people who follow the law and exercise the
benefits of a free country is reprehensible and reminiscent of people
who desire a police state. And we know additional gun control still
misses the criminal use of illegal firearms, altogther. If we want to
stop needless, senseless deaths, we need to address criminal control,
not gun control.

Sean Bolli, Calgary, Alta.




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Letter: Brave police, not gun registry,

by Nancy

Letter: Brave police, not gun registry,
Date: Nov 30, 2006 8:18 AM
PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen
DATE: 2006.11.30
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PNAME: Letters
PAGE: A13
BYLINE: Robert Jensen
SOURCE: The Ottawa Citizen
WORD COUNT: 87

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Brave police, not gun registry, halted Dawson shootings

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Re: Time for another Valium, Nov. 29.

It's disappointing to hear the calls coming from the Dawson College
students lobbying for "gun control" to maintain the $2-billion gun
registry abomination currently in place. The unfortunate events that
occurred in their school were not in any way impeded by any paper
certificate issued by the Canadian Firearms Centre, but rather it was
stopped by five brave police officers. Would it not make more sense to
put those billions into policing, where it will actually make a
difference?

Robert Jensen, Petawawa




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RETIRED RCMP OFFICER: I have yet to meet an actual officer who does support it

by Nancy

RETIRED RCMP OFFICER: I have yet to meet an actual officer who does support it
Date: Nov 30, 2006 8:04 AM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Sent: November 30, 2006 5:34 AM
To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #55

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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:08:19 -0400
From: "Jim Hill" <jjhill@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Fw: The head of the National Rifle Association comes up to
Toronto to say gun owners everywhere face the same threat to their
rights

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hill" <jjhill@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: <mark.bonokoski@tor.sunpub.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: The head of the National Rifle Association comes up to Toronto
to
say gun owners everywhere face the same threat to their rights

Mark,

I just finished reading your article on Sandy Froman's speech to the
CSSA.
Thank you for a balanced view on this. We are so used to seeing almost
rabid blathering in certain media in Toronto. You were a breath of
fresh
air indeed!

I, as a retired RCMP officer with over 26 years experience can attest
that
contrary to Wendy Cukier's statements to the effect that this registry
has
the backing of Police officers across the country, it is, in fact, seen
as a
pain in the ass by actual police officers on the street. I have yet to
meet
an actual officer who does support it. Ms. Cukier makes much about the
Canadian Association of Chief of Police and the Canadian Professional
Policemen's Association representing thousands of police officers. They
in
fact do not enjoy the support she suggests as their positions are purely

political.
They mouth the words politicians want to hear in order to a.) hold their
position or b.) try to gain something else for their continuing support.

Any
time I have ever brought this matter up to serving policemen I
invariably
get the response that ($@%!*&) does not represent me or anyone I know.
This leads to the question "Why do you continue to elect him to this
position? The answer is usually "it gets him off the street!"

Background checks were not even done on the majority of applicants! If
they
had been I surely would have been able to find that at least one gun
owner,
of the many I have spoken to over the years would have been able to tell
me
that the reference persons had been contacted to ask about the
applicant. I
have yet to find one and I continue to ask every gun owner I come into
contact with. If the references had been checked, there are some who
would
have been denied the license. One person deliberately listed two
persons
with known criminal records for references, one of the references was
the
man who had broken into the Prime Minister's residence on Sussex Drive
when
Chretien was in power. The person got his license with no questions,
and
upon receiving his license, notified the media of the circumstances.

Even more telling for Possession and Acquisition License (PAL)
holders, we had to have our Spouse sign the application to indicate that
they were aware we were applying for this license. This leads me to the
second question. As this was a law that came about as a result of 14
women
being killed by Gamil Gharbi and it was supposed to make women safer,
one
would think that a simple phone call to the spouse of the applicant or a

visit to the
address to confirm that it was indeed her signature on the form and it
was
not signed under duress. This has never happened with any of the people
I
have spoken to.

If this was such a good law, why did I receive a certificate registering
a
firearm to me that I have never owned? I had never even heard of the
make
before. An Internet query verified it was a legitimate gun maker, yet
they
did not make firearms of the type described on the certificate and no
firearm bearing the serial number shown on the certificate had been
exported
to Canada. It turned out that the company makes black powder rifles
mostly.
I do not now, nor have I ever owned one in the past.

One might also ask Ms. Cukier, why two former RCMP Commissioners,
several
retired commissioned officers, Former Toronto Police Chief Julien
Fantino
along with many other retired and some serving police officers of all
ranks
so publicly opposed this law.

Could it be that they are sick to death of "feel good legislation"
catering
to particular groups in the hopes it will benefit them in any coming
elections.

Anyway, this went longer than I intended, so if you make it this far
down in
the e-mail Thanks again for an article that was refreshingly honest!

Jim Hill
3980 #2 Hwy.,
Fletchers Lake, N.S.
Home: 902-860-3006


"Do not be afraid of enemies; the worst they can do is to kill you. Do
not
be afraid of friends; the worst they can do is betray you. Be afraid of
the indifferent; they do not kill or betray. But only because of their
silent agreement, betrayal and murder exist on earth."
- -- Bruno Yasienski - "The Plot of the Indifferent" (1937)

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Column: With guns we are citizens, without them we are subjects

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Column: With guns we are citizens, without them we are subjects
Date: Nov 30, 2006 7:40 AM
CHINOOK OBSERVER - November 29, 2006
Fish & Feathers: With guns we are citizens, without them we are subjects
By Capt. RON MALAST
http://www.chinookobserver.info/main.asp?SectionID=12&SubSectionID=30&ArticleID=16525&TM=27425.38




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Gun Control: Civil Society?

by Nancy

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I"LL KEEP ON SAYNG IT UNTIL YOU LIBERAL FEMALE ANTI SELF DEFENSE @#$%^&* GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEADS: IF you REALLY give a DAMN about protecting women, leave their RIGHT to own a self defense firearm ALONE!!!!!! HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and
strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman
explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
________________________________________________________



Gun Control: Civil Society?
Date: Nov 30, 2006 7:35 AM
NewsBusters - USA
Gun Control: Civil Society?
By Howard Nemerov - November 29, 2006


http://newsbusters.org/node/9336




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anti gun Million mom morons speaking for us again .... GRRRRRRRRRRR

by Nancy

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

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A VERY Merry Christmmas ! :)

by Nancy

Bennington Banner: Guns aren't on hazardous list
Date: Nov 29, 2006 9:28 PM
Perhaps if you ask Santa nicely...

Guns aren't on hazardous list
Well, here we are again rapidly approaching that most wonderful time of the year. Unless you just got off the boat with Borat you understand the social dictates of gross consumerism associated with the upcoming season. To help save us from ourselves consumer groups are releasing lists of hazardous toys.

Being a good parent I try to heed the warnings. I was going to get my son a video game. But with all the violent action and sexual content that idea got nixed. A home generator kit contains magnets that could be swallowed. Toys with lead paint, small pieces, sharp edges, gender and age inappropriate the list is endless.

I finally said, "to hell with it;" he's getting a deer rifle; it's not on any list.

CLAYTON KIP

Bennington



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Election Wasn't a Vote for Gun Control

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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18194



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LIBERALS OPPOSED TO THE GUN REGISTRY

by Nancy

LIBERALS OPPOSED TO THE GUN REGISTRY
Date: Nov 28, 2006 4:18 PM
• Michael Ignatieff (Etobicoke-Lakeshore) also favoured revisiting the issue of gun control, saying the registry was a useful tool for police, but he didn’t want to see an infringement on the rights of gun owners. (Kenora Daily Miner and News, August 4, 2006)

• “The gun registry, it’s a disaster, it’s a living, breathing scandal, it has cost 1.2 billion dollars” – Jean Lapierre (Outremont) (TQS News, March 3, 2003).

• “Even if it will cost more than a billion dollars, it’s a mess, the system doesn’t work” – Jean Lapierre (CKAC 730, March 3, 2003).

• “We should be getting rid of the long-gun registry. A billion dollars would have been better spent on health care or education or, for instance, in strengthening the RCMP” – Scott Brison (Kings-Hants) (Halifax Daily News, February 2, 2003)

• “As a mother, I am scared by gun violence. I would stiffen the penalties for crimes involving guns. What I would not do is to penalize law-abiding farmers and hunters who use firearms as a tool. While strengthening gun control, I would scrap the gun registry and use the money to fight against illegal guns and drugs.” – Belinda Stronach (Newmarket-Aurora) (National Post, January 21, 2004)

• Larry Bagnell (Yukon) says he supports the Conservatives' announcements regarding the beginnings of their effort to repeal the gun registry. (Whitehorse Daily Star, May 23, 2006)

• Roger Valley (Kenora) said he supports the Conservative government's plans for the Canadian Firearms Centre. "I will vote with the Conservatives to get rid of the long-gun registry," the Liberal said. (Thunder Bay Chronicle-Journal, May 26, 2006)

• "I'm inclined to vote against the long-gun registry because I don't believe it has been as effective as the original intent had claimed it would be.” – Wayne Easter (Malpeque) (Charlottetown Guardian, July 25, 2006)

• Ken Dryden also said that while he doesn't personally approve of guns, millions of dollars have already been spent on gun-control legislation, so the government must now determine if it is worth the expense and if it actually works. ``Is it a useful investment? If it isn't, get rid of it,'' he said. (Lethbridge Herald, CP, September 14, 2006)

• "Criminals and those who wish to do harm by firearms will always find ways of getting firearms." - Paul Steckle (Huron-Bruce) (National Post, March 10, 2005



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CCRKBA to Bloomberg: Police State Mentality Breeds Poor Judgement, Quick Triggers

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CCRKBA to Bloomberg: Police State Mentality Breeds Poor Judgement, Quick Triggers
Date: Nov 28, 2006 3:01 PM




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CCRKBA TO BLOOMBERG: POLICE STATE MENTALITY BREEDS POOR JUDGMENT, QUICK TRIGGERS
BELLEVUE, WA – While citizens in New York search for answers in the horrendous shooting death of an unarmed man hours before he would have married his high school sweetheart, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms says a factor nobody wants to discuss could be the anti-gun mentality fostered in that city for generations.

“The mere thought that a citizen may have had a firearm seems to have contributed to the terrible shooting death of Sean Bell,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan M. Gottlieb. “Nobody would suggest for a moment that police officers can’t protect themselves from genuine threats from armed criminals, but the Nov. 25 incident leaves too many unanswered questions, not the least of which should be an examination of why officers involved in the shooting fired at least 50 shots when nobody actually saw a gun. As it turns out, neither Bell nor his two companions, both of whom were wounded, was armed.

“For years,” Gottlieb said, “New Yorkers, including police officers, have been subliminally taught to perceive any armed person as a threat. That’s what happens in an environment where only the police, and a few elitist cronies of city hall, can legally carry guns. You create what amounts to a police state, where cops are a little too hasty to pull a trigger when somebody yells ‘gun’.”

Noting that New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg would like to see the entire nation subjected to the kinds of Draconian gun laws now enforced against New York City residents, Gottlieb said it could lead to adoption of a “police state mentality” among rank and file cops.

“Bloomberg’s contempt for the average citizen’s right to bear arms is pretty well-established,” Gottlieb said. “Millions of law-abiding citizens legally carry firearms every day in places outside New York City; places where police know better than to automatically reach for their guns, and use them, just because they think they see someone with a gun. Bloomberg’s vision for America could wind up being a place where the people fear, rather than support, their local police. Well, this is still the United States, not a police state.”


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EDITOR (Now if only we could convince our politicians)

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EDITOR (Now if only we could convince our politicians)
Date: Nov 29, 2006 10:07 AM
PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun
DATE: 2006.11.29
EDITION: Final
SECTION: Editorial/Opinion
PAGE: 22
COLUMN: Letters to the Editor


BONO'S ON TARGET

Re "Page Six" (Nov. 28): Kudos to Mark Bonokoski for writing this
outstanding column, and thanks to the Toronto Sun for publishing it. I
know Bono is generally sympathetic to the plight of the law abiding gun
owners of Canada, but this column goes far above and beyond that.
Calling into question the Anti-Gun Lobby's irrational fear of guns and
those who own and use them responsibly, and their attempts to make the
NRA out to be the Evil Shibboleth of all that is wrong in society, is
certainly the first step in the right direction. Law abiding gun owners
are not, and never have been, the "problem." Criminals and the
hug-a-thug policies of the Liberals are.

Bruce N. Mills
Dundas

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FW: Liberals and the NRA - JUST THE FACTS / Les libéraux et la NRA - ALLONS DROIT AUX FAIT

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FW: Liberals and the NRA - JUST THE FACTS / Les libéraux et la NRA - ALLONS DROIT AUX FAITS
Date: Nov 29, 2006 7:42 AM



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Subject: Liberals and the NRA - JUST THE FACTS / Les libéraux et la NRA - ALLONS DROIT AUX FAITS

JUST THE FACTS/ ALLONS DROIT AUX FAITS

Date: November 28, 2006

Today Liberal MPs led by Bill Graham (Toronto Centre) and Belinda Stronach (Newmarket-Aurora) are once engaged in baseless attacks and yet more Liberal fear-mongering. If the Liberals are truly concerned about those who have met with the NRA, perhaps they can explain why their choice for keynote speaker at their upcoming convention was a U.S. Governor who was endorsed by the NRA eight times!:

The facts:

• During the 2004 American Presidential election, Democratic candidate John Kerry criticized Howard Dean for his policies on gun control.

• John Kerry criticized Dean's 1992 statement to the National Rifle Association that he opposed any restriction on private ownership of assault weapons. "Howard Dean's opposition to sensible gun safety measures is indefensible," Kerry said. "It explains why he has been endorsed by the NRA eight times. I believe we must put the safety of our children and families ahead of special interests like the NRA." Associated Press in Minneapolis Star-Tribune Oct 31, 2003)

• Dean responded, "I come from a rural state with a very low homicide rate. We had five homicides one year. It's a state where hunting is a part of our life. I understand that's not the traditional Democratic position." Dean said "when you're running for governor, they ask you what you would do in your state." Dean aides said the opposition to restrictions on assault weapons that Dean expressed on the signed 1992 NRA questionnaire applied only to a state ban, defined broadly enough to also apply to shotguns commonly used by hunters in Vermont. (Associated Press in Minneapolis Star-Tribune Oct 31, 2003)

• Several Liberal MPs, including Stronach herself, are on record as opposing the gun registry!



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ALLONS DROIT AUX FAITS / JUST THE FACTS

Date : le 28 novembre 2006

Des députés libéraux, dont Bill Graham (Toronto-Centre) et Belinda Stronach (Newmarket-Aurora), ont une fois de plus semé la peur et émis des critiques sans fondement. Si les libéraux se préoccupent véritablement des personnes qui se sont mis en contact avec des membres de la National Rifle Association (NRA), peut-être peuvent-ils alors expliquer pourquoi ils ont choisi à titre d'orateur principal pour leur prochain congrès un gouverneur américain qui a reçu l’appui de la NRA à huit reprises.

Les faits

• Lors de la campagne pour les élections présidentielles américaines de 2004, le candidat démocrate John Kerry a critiqué les politiques de Howard Dean concernant le contrôle des armes à feu.

• John Kerry a critiqué la déclaration faite par M. Dean en 1992 devant la NRA à l’effet qu’il s’opposait à toute restriction visant la possession personnelle d’armes d’assaut. « L'opposition de Howard Dean à des mesures sensées de contrôle des armes à feu est injustifiable », a affirmé M. Kerry. « Cela explique pourquoi la NRA l'a appuyé à huit reprises. À mon avis, il faut donner préséance à la sécurité de nos enfants et de nos familles et non aux groupes d'intérêt comme la NRA. » [TRADUCTION] (StarTribune de Minneapolis, en collaboration avec l’Associated Press, 31 octobre 2003)

• En guise de réponse, M. Dean a affirmé : « Je viens d’un État rural où le taux d’homicide est très faible. Il y a une année où il ne s'est produit que cinq homicides. Chasser fait partie fait partie de notre culture. Je comprends qu’il ne s’agit pas de la position traditionnelle des démocrates. Cependant, lorsque vous vous présentez comme candidat au poste de gouverneur, on vous demande ce que vous entendez faire pour votre État. » L’assistant de M. Dean a affirmé que l’opposition de ce dernier aux restrictions sur les armes d’assaut auxquelles M. Dean faisait référence dans le questionnaire de la NRA qu'il a rempli en 1992 ne concernait que l'interdiction au sein de l’État. Le tout était exprimé de manière si vague qu'il aurait aussi pu s’agir des fusils de chasse fréquemment utilisés par les chasseurs dans l’État du Vermont. [TRADUCTION] (StarTribune de Minneapolis, en collaboration avec l’Associated Press, 31 octobre 2003)

• Plusieurs députés libéraux, dont Belinda Stronach, se sont officiellement opposés au registre des armes à feu.



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JPFO ALERT: Begging for Freedom

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JPFO ALERT: Begging for Freedom
Date: Nov 28, 2006 1:35 PM
ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

November 28, 2006

JPFO ALERT: Begging for Freedom

The Declaration of Independence states that all men are
"endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights".
This means that there are certain rights which everyone
has, simply by being alive. Yet we are often reduced to
petitioning politicians to acknowledge these rights.

Bill of Rights Day is December 15, less than three weeks
away. While we applaud those politicians who introduce a
Bill of Rights Day resolution, and those local governments
that agree to it, we want to stress that it is NOT
necessary to wait for government to throw you a few crumbs.
There are lots of things you can do without a politician's
"permission":

- Set up a celebration of your own at a restaurant, library,
or other venue, even if means only two people will meet
and talk about regaining our freedoms. Maybe invite a local
politician!

- Read and share our article, "You'll be Freer and Richer
in the Bill of Rights Culture" at www.jpfo.org/borculture.htm

- Call or email someone and talk about our rights.

- Send the JPFO Bill of Rights Day form letters to a local
publication ( www.jpfo.org/bord.htm ).

- Heed the wisdom of Uncle Sam with a poster or stickers at
www.jpfo.org/unclesamcolor.pdf and www.jpfo.org/stickers.htm

- Have students read the JPFO freedom booklets "It's Common
Sense to Use Our Bill of Rights" and "The UN is Destroying
Your Freedom" (www.jpfo.org/gj.htm )

- Or choose from any number of other ideas at
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So don't wait for your local politicians to answer your
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In U.S., women go wild for hunting

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In U.S., women go wild for hunting
Date: Nov 27, 2006 6:52 AM
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=inDepthNews&storyID=2006-11-24T190953Z_01_N10253288_RTRUKOC_0_US-LIFE-USA-HUNTING.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C3-inDepthNews-2


In U.S., women go wild for hunting
Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:10 PM ET





By Sarah Mahoney

FREEPORT, Maine (Reuters) - It's deer season in Maine and although the hunting department of outdoor retail specialist L.L. Bean is packed, this is no old-boy's club.

Among the aisles of aerosol deer urine and digital duck calls, there are racks of women's clothing in mossy-oak camouflage, as well as plenty of fluorescent hunter orange.

Lined up behind the counter are dozens of guns, many available with a "short-stock" designed to fit more comfortably into women's shorter arms.

That's because an increasing number of women are heading into the woods, becoming one of the most enthusiastic segments of the hunting world.

Take Laura Beth Fowler, an 18-year-old from McKenzie, Tennessee, who took up shooting three years ago and is now a member of one of the few all-girl trap-shooting teams in the country.



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Head of the NRA comes up to Toronto

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Head of the NRA comes up to Toronto
Date: Nov 28, 2006 8:00 AM
PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun
DATE: 2006.11.28
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: 6
ILLUSTRATION: photo by Dave Thomas/ Sandra Froman, president of the
National Rifle Association, spoke in Toronto on the weekend.
WORD COUNT: 764

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The head of the National Rifle Association comes up to Toronto to say
gun owners everywhere face the same threat to their rights

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She is the antithesis of the oft-parodied image of former National Rifle
Association president, actor Charlton Heston, holding an antique
Revolutionary War-era muzzle loader aloft back in 2000, and warning
anti-gun proponents that they'd have to pry it "from my cold dead
hands."

Yet Sandy Froman is what Heston once was -- president of the
four-million-strong NRA, one of the largest and most powerful lobby
groups in the U.S., and only the second woman to hold that post in the
NRA's 132-year history. "And I haven't met a gun yet that I didn't
like," she says.

Jewish, soccer-(grand)momish, and a West Coast lawyer now living in
Tucson, Ariz., the 57-year-old Froman is is as unstereotypical as it
comes when looking for the stereotypical perception of the gun crowd.

And this is not lost on the woman herself.

In Toronto over the weekend to address the national convention of the
Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA), Froman said being a victim
of crime was the prime motivator for her buying her first gun.

"It's weird how life goes," she says. "If what happened to me
had not
have happened, I would not be here.

"But it was a life-changing experience, and I would not be president of
the NRA if not for that."

It was an attempted break-in of her Los Angeles apartment when she was
in her 30s, and living alone, that prompted Froman to go out the next
day and sign up for firearms training.

"I never wanted to be in a position in life where I had no options," she
says. "And I had no options that day. There was a man attempting to
break into my apartment and I had no backup -- no means to defend
myself, no way out.

"And it changed my life."

Educated at Stanford University, with her law degree coming from
Harvard, Froman was practising law at the high-profile California law
firm of Loeb & Loeb when she had her late-night visitation, a chance
brush with lawlessness that led her, eventually, to executive positions
within the NRA.

Remember Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine, and his ambush interview
with a feeble Charlton Heston?

"Despicable" is how Froman described Moore's actions, leaving no doubt
that Moore would be unwise to come knocking on her door with the same
modus operandi.

Last January, having invoked the fear factor that half the guns used to
bathe Toronto in blood in 2005 were stolen from law-abiding collectors
and shooters, Prime Minister Paul Martin went to the polls vowing to ban
all handguns in Canada -- if constitutionally viable, that is, a caveat
he later had to add when he misfired on the facts.

Toronto Mayor David Miller sang the same statistical tune, despite
contrary evidence in a report tabled a month earlier by his own police
service -- a report obtained through access to information that shows,
if not twisted, that no more than 16% of "crime guns" in Toronto were
obtained through the robbery of legitimate owners.

Sandy Froman, however, would not go there. The United States, not
Canada, she said, is her political bailiwick.

"Canadians have a different mindset. We have different histories," she
says. "We (Americans) are self-reliant. Independence is part of our
culture. Call it frontier-ism, if you want, but we are people who want
less government interference in our lives, and we believe in the Second
Amendment, and our right to protect ourselves."

According to Froman, some 80 million of the 300-plus million living in
the United States own firearms.

"Gun ownership has increased 25% in the last years," she says. "And
violent crime has decreased by 33%.

"Tell me there is no connection?"

There was no press invited to the Canadian Shooting Sport Association's
dinner Saturday, yet some did show up nonetheless, with the Toronto Star
apparently sporting a bogus "invitation" allegedly sent out by
kindred-spirited, anti-gun lobbyist Wendy Cukier, a Ryerson professor
and president of the Canadian Coalition for Gun Control.

It was left up to Tony Bernardo, executive-director of the Canadian
Shooting Sports Association to let the reporter know that he had been
somewhat had -- particularly since the reporter arrived thinking Cukier
was his contact person.

This, in fact, was confirmed by the reporter himself.

"Cukier's name was atop the invite," says Bernardo. "And the
reporter
was certainly not happy about being asked to leave. But he has only one
person to thank, and that's the person who sent out the phony
invitation."

According to Cukier, however, the so-called "invitation" was actually
a
"press release" -- one, she admitted, that "might have caused some
confusion" if it came down third-hand from an assignment editor to a
reporter.

"I spoke to the Star," she says. "And they understand."

GOT IN A SHOT

According to Cukier, an address by the president of the NRA to a group
of Canadian shooting sport enthusiasts is "something Canadians should
know about."

"Which is why I put out a press release," she says.

One wonders, however, what Cukier had envisioned being so newsworthy
that it required a media blitz.

For what follows is probably the most controversial thing Sandy Froman
had to say her keynote speech.

"Though you don't have a Second Amendment in Canada, it is amazing how
similar things are in your country and in mine when it comes to gun
ownership and the fight to preserve it," she said. "You fight the same
battles against the same enemies of firearms freedom that we do. You
labour under the same lack of education among the general public about
firearms issues.

"And you deal with the same bias in your media."

In that same speech, however, Froman did manage to get in a fairly good
shot at Wendy Cukier.

It might be wise, in fact, if she obtained a copy.




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SAF Lawsuit Defends Rights of Citizens Living Abroad, Challenges &#145;Sporting Purpose&#146

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SAF Lawsuit Defends Rights of Citizens Living Abroad, Challenges ‘Sporting Purpose’ Restriction
Date: Nov 29, 2006 2:41 PM




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SAF LAWSUIT DEFENDS RIGHTS OF CITIZENS LIVING ABROAD, CHALLENGES ‘SPORTING PURPOSE’ RESTRICTION
BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today filed a lawsuit in federal court in Ohio, challenging the “sporting purpose” limitation for firearms sales in this country, and supporting the constitutional right of American citizens living abroad to legally purchase firearms while in this country.

SAF and co-plaintiff Stephen Dearth of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, a native citizen of the United States, are represented by the law firms of Gura & Possessky (Virginia) and Squire, Sanders & Dempsey (Ohio).

SAF founder Alan M. Gottlieb said “there is no ‘sporting purpose’ limitation on the right to keep and bear arms in the language of the Second Amendment.”

“American citizens should not be penalized for living outside the United States, but under current statute, they are,” Gottlieb explained. “There is no public safety rationale for laws or regulations that prohibit a law-abiding citizen from exercising their rights on American soil. We cannot allow a legal environment to exist where the exercise of a civil right here at home is conditional to one’s country of residence.

“If Americans can have firearms for hunting, they can also have a gun for self-defense, for pest control, for training purposes, for any number of reasons, or for no reason at all, because the Second Amendment is not about duck hunting or target shooting, and never has been,” he continued. “It’s not a ‘Bill of Needs’ we’re talking about, it’s a Bill of Rights.

“And those constitutional rights, guaranteed by birth right to every American citizen, do not become null and void simply because an individual lives in another country,” Gottlieb said. “When a law-abiding American citizen comes home for a visit, he or she should be able to exercise their rights, including the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, anywhere in the United States no matter where they happen to live.

“We’re bringing this case to the courts,” Gottlieb concluded, “because we believe the rights of American citizens, no matter where they reside, are worth defending.”

"We will continue to defend the rights of Americans against pointless governmental interference. These laws serve no useful purpose. Mr. Dearth cannot be denied his constitutional rights while inside the United States, merely because his home happens to be across the border," added Alan Gura, the lead attorney representing the plaintiffs.


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Vermont Looses a gun dealer/friend

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Vermont Looses a gun dealer/friend
Date: Nov 24, 2006 7:07 PM
Bill Gilderdale had an extensive inventory of older firearms,
particularly Winchester rifles. For decades he has been
a source of information and insight for our folks.

Evan.. Many people knew Bill. Can you pass this on.

Bill Gilderdale passed away. Bill was well known in Vermont and New England as a fair gun dealer who loved his Winchesters. Bill had a barn in Stockbridge on RT100 with a sign "GUNS". That is all he needed. Anyone visiting Bill would quickly learn what was on his mind, what he thought of politics and if you said something stupid, what he thought of you. I was very fortunate in knowing Bill and becoming his friend. Even as another gun dealer, I was welcomed into his place with open arms. He sent many customers to my place as I did his. I would love to know what Bill forgot in the last year about Winchesters and life in general. He will be missed.

Henry Parro

William O. "Bill" Gilderdale

November 22, 2006

STOCKBRIDGE – William O. "Bill" Gilderdale, 87, of Stockbridge, died Monday evening, Nov. 20, 2006, at Gifford Medical Center in Randolph.

He was born Sept. 25, 1919, in Colrain, Mass., the son of Frederic T. and Henrietta (Osgood) Gilderdale. He served in the U.S. Army during World War II and was stationed in Burma.

He had worked as a timber buyer for Northeast Wood Products in Pownal and then for True Temper Construction in Wallingford.

He was an outdoorsman and hunter and was most noted for his love of guns, especially antique firearms. He owned and operated Bill's Guns in Stockbridge for many years, the last few with the help of his grandson.

He was known far and wide with many friends in and out of the gun trade.

He is survived by two sons, David Gilderdale of East Randolph and Alan Gilderdale of Colrain, Mass.; his daughter, Judy Fowler of Halifax; his sister, Barbara N. Gilderdale of New Canaan, Conn.; seven grandchildren; three great-grandsons; and many nieces, nephews and cousins.

He was predeceased by his sister, Helen Fredericka Gilderdale.

Memorial services will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006, at the Day Funeral Home in Randolph with Rev. Ronald E. Rilling officiating. Burial will be at a later date at North River Cemetery in Colrain, Mass. Calling hours are from 7 to 8 p.m. Friday at the funeral home.

Contributions in his memory may be made to the American Diabetes Association, 77 Hegeman Ave., Colchester, VT 05446.




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Column: "Liberty-encroaching yet entirely useless national firearms registry"

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Column: "Liberty-encroaching yet entirely useless national firearms registry"
Date: Nov 25, 2006 10:00 AM
PUBLICATION: GLOBE AND MAIL
DATE: 2006.11.25
PAGE: A27 (ILLUS)
BYLINE: CHRISTIE BLATCHFORD
SECTION: Comment Column
EDITION: Metro
WORD COUNT: 1014

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My nation is . . . Toronto
Stow the envy, rest-of-Canada dwellers. 'We are a nation because we are
what we are' here in Hogtown

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I cannot tell you how conflicted I was by the "Quebec is a nation"
business that broke out all over this week: as a federalist, delighted;
as a Torontonian, amused.

To borrow from the deliciously outfoxed and caught flatfooted Bloc
Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe, who said, "We are a nation because we
are what we are," we here in Toronto are also a nation and for the same
reason.

As a native Quebecker, I know well how unique is that province, but if I
had to name one place in the country that has almost nothing in common
with the rest of it, it wouldn't be Quebec, but the city where I've
lived for almost four decades.

In recent years, it's become so bad I've seriously considered separating
myself from Toronto, the friends and routines of an adult lifetime, the
house and neighbourhood I love.

I give you a small but telling true story.

I was in Edmonton last week and so, it turned out, was a Toronto couple
I adore. They were visiting relatives who live about an hour out of the
Alberta capital, and we chatted briefly on e-mail, unsuccessfully trying
to arrange our various schedules in order to meet for dinner one night.

At one point, the husband was trilling on about how beautiful the
relatives' property was, and how peaceful, and blah, blah, blah.

Why, he cooed, from a window that very day, they'd spotted a deer.

"You should have shot it," I snarled, though I confess I have not yet
found an e-mail icon to properly signify a snarl.

I actually knew, from an Alberta friend, that it is, or was, deer
hunting season. Indeed, because of this friend, who regales me with
lurid descriptions of the shots he could have taken but didn't and the
hours he spends lying in various frigid places waiting not to shoot, and
the array of clothes and gewgaws he takes with him to while away the
wait until he doesn't shoot, I may well know more about Alberta deer
season than any other single person in Toronto.

Anyway, as I recall, there was shocked e-mail silence from my Toronto
friend. I don't think I ever got a reply. He probably thought I had
mislaid my mind or that I had misspoken, which is what we here say when
we accidentally have told a truth or said what we believe but had no
intention of saying and been called on it.

After all, I had broken about a dozen Toronto conventions in one fell
swoop: Thou shalt not speak of guns; thou shalt not speak of guns but to
condemn; thou shalt not suggest, by word or deed or inflection or lift
of brow, that there are good gun owners and bad ones; thou shalt not
speak in any manner approaching approbation about hunting (for one
thing, it may lead to meat eating), and thou shall always and at every
turn defend the liberty-encroaching yet entirely useless national
firearms registry while simultaneously attacking the liberty-encroaching
but undeniably useful notion of imposing reverse-onus bail conditions
upon those thugs caught actually using guns in the commission of an
actual crime.

Now I didn't really want my friend to shoot the deer because, though I
am a bad Torontonian, like any good one, I still see all deer as Bambi,
much as I see all collies as Lassie and all horses as Black Beauty and
all pigs as Miss Piggy and all cows as the long-lashed ones in the milk
ads. We prefer our animals, domestic or wild, to be cartoons with cute
voices, which is why so many of us want our dogs to be no bigger than a
beaver's tail.

But the point is, Torontonians may not really think like this, but
certainly, to judge it by what we say and certainly by how we vote, we
do. The odds of the average citizen in this city being shot by a
law-abiding, registered-up-the-ying-yang, taxpaying, gun-club-using
fellow are next to nothing, but we here live in fear of that guy.

Him, we want banned, or his guns anyway. And his pal the hunter.

We have no patience for any of his nonsense about shooting being a sport
(what, biathlon?) or for any of the hunter's BS or the varmint-shooting
farmer's. But give us a dude with a criminal record longer than (see
earlier reference to dog size), a habit of not showing up for court and
a well-documented taste for violence, and honey, we will turn ourselves
inside-out in search of root causes.

I didn't mean for this to be so much about guns, but this is one of
those issues that really captures so much that makes Toronto so
breathtakingly irritating and, well, distinct.

There are others, but chiefly what distinguishes the Torontonian is that
from the sanctity of his SUV-loving life, he desires to tell other
Canadians how we all ought to live.

A few weeks ago, I was walking through the University of Toronto campus
with my dog, both of us minding our business. Obie was, of course, on
his leash, just trotting by my side. I had plastic bags in every pocket
lest there be a hint of a dog turd within miles, and as we approached a
young man, he smiled nicely. I am accustomed to people smiling at the
sight of my dog (he is huge, white, goofy and with one floppy ear and
one upright one) and smiled back.

"Where's the muzzle?" the young man asked pleasantly.

I presumed he had mistaken Obie for a pit bull and was referring to the
Ontario ban on these dogs.

"Oh," I said, still polite, "his breed is exempt from the law."
"It's
not a matter of law," he said.

"What is it a matter of then?" I asked.

He held his hands about a beaver-tail length apart. "I have a dog about
this size," he said sorrowfully, shaking his head in what I suppose I
was to take for rueful wisdom.

"My dog plays with dogs that size every day," I said. "He's as
gentle as
a lamb." "Well," smarmed the young man, "I'm glad to hear
it." "I need
neither your lectures nor your praise," I replied, rather regally I
thought, and took my leave. But as he was to me, Toronto is to the
nation. We are what we are, and what the rest of you, if only you were a
little brighter, would want to be.

cblatchford@globeandmail.ca




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BENEFITS OF FIREARM OWNERSHIP - SELF-DEFENCE

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BENEFITS OF FIREARM OWNERSHIP - SELF-DEFENCE
Date: Nov 25, 2006 11:31 AM
August 22, 2006 - LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT: SOCIETAL BENEFITS OF FIREARM OWNERSHIP
- SELF-DEFENCE http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/2006/820.doc

Le 22 août 2006 - BIBLIOTHÈQUE DU PARLEMENT - AVANTAGES SOCIÉTAUX DÉCOULANT DE LA
POSSESSION D'ARMES À FEU - LA LÉGITIME DÉFENSE
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August 17, 2006 - LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT: THE BENEFITS OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP - HUNTING
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Le 17 août 2006 - BIBLIOTHÈQUE DU PARLEMENT - LES AVANTAGES LIÉS À LA PROPRIÉTÉ
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April 2, 2004 - LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT REPORT: THE BENEFITS OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
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Le 2 avril 2004 - BIBLIOTHÈQUE DU PARLEMENT -LES AVANTAGES DE LA POSSESSION D'ARMES
À FEU
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Canadians' Use of Crime Prevention Measures, 2004

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Canadians' Use of Crime Prevention Measures, 2004
Date: Nov 25, 2006 9:23 AM
STATISTICS CANADA - Canadians' Use of Crime Prevention Measures, 2004
By Maire Gannon and Andrea Taylor-Butts, Canadian Centre for Justice
Statistics
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What you won't read in The NY Times

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What you won't read in The NY Times
Date: Nov 24, 2006 7:22 PM
http://www.ohioccw.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3763&Itemid=83
Lumpy Lambert's Armed Citizen Story



Written by Mike Kinsey
Wednesday, 22 November 2006


Those that do not regularly listen to the excellent programs that air on NRANews.com or keep their radar tuned to self-defense stories are probably not aware of what recently happened to Lumpy Lambert. That is because armed citizen accounts rarely make it to print. When they do, the vast majority of them report that, "Mrs. Smith is lucky to be alive" rather than "Mrs. Smith used her legal firearm for self-defense. If she hadn't, she would now be dead." Official FBI statistics predict that a firearm is used 1.5 million times a year in self-defense. Do you hear about all of those in the news? I certainly do not.


That is what makes this story a bit of an anomaly. It comes to us from Knoxville, Tennessee and actually made its way to a few other papers around the country. However, it certainly didn't get the widespread coverage it deserves.


Here is what happened:


A Knox County Commissioner, Greg "Lumpy" Lambert was working at his car dealership when a 19-year-old man entered and wanted a test drive. After it was over, the customer said he's ready to buy and had $12,000 in cash for the purchase. Lumpy asked for the customer's driver's license and started the paperwork. The customer then went outside to have a cigarette. Lumpy said he was always suspicious as he didn't see any bulges in the guy's pants that would indicate he had such a large sum of cash with him. Also, he never tried to negotiate a better price. The customer came back in, continued acting suspicious, and began to draw a handgun. Lumpy, who trains with his legal firearm, was quicker and drew his first.


From this story on WBIR.com:
"He [the robber] said he didn't want any trouble, that he just wanted to leave. I said he was not going to leave with his gun. This man is obviously pulling a gun on people, he's not, the rest of society out there was not safe as long as he was carrying this weapon. So I made him drop his weapon. And told him to get out of there and prepare to be arrested that our good sheriff's department would catch up with him, which they did about 12 hours later," said Lambert.
I believe that the reason why this was originally reported was because it was painted as an amusing human interest story. The media kept making fun of the robber since he previously gave Lumpy his driver's license (allowing the cops to apprehend him). Plus, Lumpy was wearing a "Friends of the NRA" hat at the time. Finally, the good guy's nickname is Lumpy and he's from Tennessee. All of the accounts made sure to mention those facts and have a good chuckle about the moronic robber rather than focusing on Lumpy's heroics.


That's fine. Whatever gets the word out.


However, this story became a lot more serious yesterday:
The man who pulled a gun on a Knox County commissioner is charged with murder.


Late Tuesday afternoon, a grand jury indicted 19 year-old Kane Stackhouse with the murder of 53 year-old David Lindsey.





http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/local_news/article/0,1406,KNS_347_5161520,00.html

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Teenager indicted in slaying
Powell youth faces first-degree murder charge in shooting
By J.J. STAMBAUGH, stambaugh@knews.com
November 22, 2006




A Powell teenager was indicted Tuesday on murder charges in the Nov. 11 slaying of a truck driver in a drugstore parking lot, Knox County Sheriff Tim Hutchison said.
Kane Stackhouse, 19, was indicted by a grand jury on charges of first-degree murder, felony murder and especially aggravated robbery, Hutchison said.
The robbery charge stems from an incident that took place about 10 hours after David Lindsey, 53, was found dying from two gunshot wounds in the parking lot of the Walgreens at 5320 Clinton Highway, Hutchison said.
In the second incident, Stackhouse is alleged to have tried to rob Knox County Commissioner Greg "Lumpy" Lambert at Lambert's auto dealership, Advantage Auto Sales, which is about a half mile from the drugstore, Hutchison said.
When Stackhouse allegedly pulled a gun on Lambert, the commissioner pulled his own pistol on the would-be robber and disarmed him, according to Lambert's account. Stackhouse then fled on foot, leaving behind a .25-caliber pistol and his driver's license.


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GARY MAUSER: "...incapacitation is the most powerful tool we have to reduce the crime rate

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GARY MAUSER: "...incapacitation is the most powerful tool we have to reduce the crime rate."
Date: Nov 24, 2006 11:51 AM
PUBLICATION: Times Colonist (Victoria)
DATE: 2006.11.24
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: A5
BYLINE: David Carrigg
SOURCE: CanWest News Service
DATELINE: VANCOUVER
ILLUSTRATION: Photo: Wally Oppal: "It's a good idea"
WORD COUNT: 449

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B.C. attorney general backs feds' gun-crime crackdown

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VANCOUVER -- Attorney General Wally Oppal yesterday backed a federal
government plan to make it tougher for people accused of gun crimes to
get out on bail.

"I think it's a good idea to put more of the onus on those people
charged with serious crimes involving firearms," Oppal said last night.
"That's what this deals with."

Current Canadian law puts the onus on the Crown to convince a judge that
someone charged with a gun crime should be kept in custody until trial.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper yesterday introduced legislation in the
House of Commons that will instead require those charged with a serious
gun crime to argue why they should not stay in custody until their
trial.

Under the proposed reverse-onus legislation, it would be tougher for
people like 29-year-old Dennis White of Vancouver to get out on bail.

White is charged with shooting to death 23-year-old Lee Matasi in
downtown Vancouver last December. White was released on bail into the
care of his mother, despite protests from the Crown and outrage from
Matasi's family. White's second-degree murder trial begins next year.

"Where a person is charged with robbery using a firearm, then the onus
ought to be [for them] to show that they should be released," Oppal
said. "This would be applicable in a case like [White]."

Oppal, who said he discussed the reverse-onus legislation with Harper
three weeks ago, said it is rare for a judge to release a person on bail
who is accused of murder, as was the case with White.

Simon Fraser University criminologist Gary Mauser said many violent
crimes are committed by people who have been released after committing
an earlier violent crime. "There's one thing that we know from looking
at crime records and that is that incapacitation is the most powerful
tool we have to reduce the crime rate," Mauser said. "That's keeping
people in jail for a longer period of time, in this case holding them
until they are judged."

Vancouver police spokesman Const. Tim Fanning applauded the proposal.
"We get frustrated when we deal with people involved in crimes where
they use a gun, and they're back on the street quickly and they get
another gun. Trying to get guns off the street and people who carry guns
off the street is a good start."

Harper, meanwhile, said he doesn't believe a blanket ban on handguns is
the answer.

"Simply banning guns we don't think would be effective," he said.
"What
we do need to do is stop the smuggling of illegal weapons."

Earlier yesterday, Harper's plan earned the endorsement of Ontario
Premier Dalton McGuinty and Toronto Mayor David Miller.

"Gun crime is a menace to public safety and protecting Canadians must be
the first priority of the bail system," Harper said at a Toronto press
conference.

Harper added he was confident the legislation would withstand a
challenge under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

"Our belief is this is demonstrably justifiable and necessary for public
safety and for the public to retain confidence in the criminal justice
system," the prime minister said.




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Canadians don't buy guns when threatened

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Canadians don't buy guns when threatened
Date: Nov 24, 2006 11:33 AM
PUBLICATION: The Windsor Star
DATE: 2006.11.24
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: A11
SOURCE: CanWest News Service
DATELINE: OTTAWA
WORD COUNT: 243

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We'd rather step away from a fight: Canadians don't buy guns when
threatened

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OTTAWA - Canadians are more likely to change their daily routines or
avoid certain places to protect themselves from crime rather than buy a
gun or moving, says a new report.

More than three-quarters of Canadians regularly used some means to
protect themselves and their property from crime in 2004, says a
Statistics Canada study released Thursday.

But only one per cent of study participants said they bought a gun as a
precautionary measure.

About five per cent said they changed their phone number, while four per
cent moved into a new residence. The findings are similar to a 1999
study on victimization, according to Statistics Canada.

About one in 10 people said they stayed home at night because they
feared going out alone.

Canadians are much more likely to insert preventive measures in their
daily routines, according to the report.

For instance, six in 10 Canadians said they locked their car doors while
alone in a vehicle. Four in 10 said they kept safety in mind when
planning their route, or checked the backseat to make sure no one was
there when they were getting into their car.

"The preventative measures that they do use tend to be those that
involve modifying their behaviour and their activities as opposed to
more extreme measures," said Andrea Taylor-Butts, analyst at the
Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics at Statistics Canada.

People who used more extreme crime prevention measures were more likely
to have been a victim of crime in the previous year.

More than half of study respondents who were also victims of crime said
they changed their routines to prevent victimization. But only 29 per
cent of people who hadn't been victims of crime reported the same.




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Stephen Harper cites a London shooting case in touting Ottawa's 'reverse onus' legislation

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Stephen Harper cites a London shooting case in touting Ottawa's 'reverse onus' legislation.
Date: Nov 24, 2006 10:55 AM
PUBLICATION: The London Free Press
DATE: 2006.11.24
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: A1
ILLUSTRATION: 1. photo of AHMED MOALIN-MOHAMED Accused in London
shootings and nowhere to be found. 2. photo by CP NON-PARTISAN MOMENT:
Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty listen
as Toronto Mayor David Miller speaks at a news conference in Toronto.
BYLINE: FREE PRESS STAFF AND NEWS SERVICES
WORD COUNT: 491

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PM points to local fugitive
Stephen Harper cites a London shooting case in touting Ottawa's 'reverse
onus' legislation.

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He skipped bail after being charged in a multiple Thanksgiving shooting
in London that injured four people and hasn't been seen or heard since.

But yesterday, fugitive Ahmed Moalin-Mohamed was thrust under the
spotlight, his case cited by Prime Minister Stephen Harper as an example
of the need to get tough on people accused of gun crimes.

Moalin-Mohamed, 23, was released on bail by a justice of the peace and
ordered to stay with his mother in Toronto until his case could be
heard.

Instead, Harper noted, the defendant "simply vanished."

"That means somewhere in Canada -- maybe in London, maybe in this city
-- a man facing multiple violent firearms charges is freely roaming the
streets and it's hardly an isolated case," Harper said in Toronto.

Appearing in a rare non-partisan moment with Ontario Liberal Premier
Dalton McGuinty and David Miller, Toronto's left-leaning mayor, Harper
was setting his sights on Ontario voters as he showcased Ottawa's
get-tough vow to crack down on gun crime.

If there was any doubt Harper is laying the groundwork for a coming
election after he tabled a motion Wednesday to recognize Quebec as a
nation within Canada, it vanished when he took the stage with the other
two political leaders who represent millions of Ontario voters -- voters
the minority Conservative government is keen to win over before they
return to the federal polls.

Harper plugged the government's new "reverse onus" legislation,
introduced in the House of Commons yesterday, which would require people
accused of dangerous gun crimes -- like Moalin-Mohamed -- to demonstrate
to a court why they should be freed on bail until their trial.

As the law now stands, those accused of attempted murder, armed robbery,
sexual assault with a weapon, kidnapping or extortion are granted bail,
unless a prosecutor can persuade a court to detain them.

Harper recounted the case of Moalin-Mohamed, who made bail after the
Oct. 8 shootings in a parking lot along Richmond and Carling streets,
but then failed to show up for his next court appearance.

A bench warrant was issued for his arrest.

Moalin-Mohamed faces 13 charges, including attempted murder and three
counts of criminal negligence causing bodily harm. He was released
despite concerns by the Crown. His release also drew criticism from
London police Chief Murray Faulkner.

"Rejecting the Crown's argument that the man was a threat to public
safety, the (justice of the peace), acting under the current law,
ordered him to stay home with his mother," Harper said.

Harper, referring to the three leaders at yesterday's news conference,
said, "We pretty much cover the political spectrum, but today we are
partisans for the same cause."

He also brought up the Boxing Day shooting of 15-year-old Jane Creba,
who was caught in the crossfire during a shootout on Yonge Street.

The case became a central focus of last year's federal election campaign
and was viewed by many as a boon to the election hopes of the
law-and-order Tories.

"Ever since the Yonge Street shootout that killed 15-year-old Jane Creba
last Boxing Day, the premier and the mayor have been pressing Ottawa for
these reforms," Harper said.

McGuinty was effusive in his praise for the legislation and for the
leadership he said Harper has shown on the gun-crime file. "This
initiative, together with other initiatives already brought forward by
Prime Minister Harper's government, are important to the people of
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Skipping bail in Canada is simply too easy

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Skipping bail in Canada is simply too easy
Date: Nov 24, 2006 10:57 AM
PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun
DATE: 2006.11.24
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: 5
ILLUSTRATION: photo of AHMED MOALIN-MOHAMED Skipped hearing
BYLINE: JOE WARMINGTON
WORD COUNT: 593

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Skipping bail in Canada is simply too easy

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Anybody see Ahmed Moalin-Mohamed around?

Head for cover if you do. And then call police.

"He may be in London, he may be in this city," Prime Minister Stephen
Harper said yesterday.

He may be anywhere because he didn't show up for his latest court
hearing to determine if he should be on bail.

Oh, don't worry. He's only on the lam after being charged with attempted
murder, criminal negligence causing bodily harm and 10 other charges in
the Thanksgiving shooting of four people in London, Ont.

"He was ordered to stay at home with his mother," Harper said
sarcastically. "He promptly vanished."

Seems his mom, who lives in Toronto, wasn't able to detain him --
despite being asked to by the court while he awaited the next court
date. Maybe mom's cooking wasn't as good as it used to be or he didn't
want to make his bed.

You hardly need reforms to deal with this kind of stupidity. But reforms
are what Harper, Premier Dalton McGuinty and Mayor David Miller were
talking about yesterday.

It's actually a bail reform package that Harper's government will table
before Parliament -- essentially making those on bail for serious
charges go though a reverse onus process.

In other words, rather than have the Crown say why the suspect should
stay in jail awaiting trial, the accused will have to show why he should
be out of jail.

"As you know, cracking down on gang, gun and drug crime has been one of
the top priorities of Canada's new government," said Harper. "We made
it
a priority because Canadians had made it very clear to us that they
wanted the scales of justice rebalanced."

'ALMOST 1,000 CRIMES'

He also stated: "In this city, police report that almost 1,000 crimes
involving firearms or restricted weapons have been committed so far this
year ...nearly 40% of them were committed by someone who was on bail,
parole, temporary absence or probation. Gun crime is a menace to public
safety, and protecting Canadians must be the first priority of our bail
system."

The three leaders stood up there in unison. "Between the three of us we
pretty much cover the political spectrum," said Harper.

But they all agree on this. "We close ranks," said McGuinty on crime
against citizens.

"More arrests and more guns off the streets make it a safer city," said
Miller, adding he's glad to see the PM say, "yes, to Toronto."

You have to give these men credit. They are the good guys, on our side,
and are trying to deal with a very difficult problem. The ideas revealed
at this news conference are okay.

The measures that have been employed in Toronto this year by Chief Bill
Blair have been effective in getting the numbers down and they have to
be encouraged to keep crushing the criminal gangs.

But even though I support these leaders working together, there is still
such political posturing to it all. After an hour of patting each other
on the back, they still hadn't mentioned there had been three shootings
here in the last 48 hours.

One was at Yonge and Shuter -- right near where Jane Creba was slain
Dec. 26. One was up on the 401 in which police officers were shot at and
one on King W. in the Entertainment District where a man was shot in the
leg.

No funerals necessary. This time.

The part that amazes me is how people don't help police out. "The victim
(in the Entertainment District) was not exactly co-operative," said a
frustrated 14 Division Staff Sgt. Steve French. "If anybody has
information, please call Crime Stoppers."

And, please, don't tell me somebody out there doesn't know where
Moalin-Mohamed is. The fact that people harbour fugitives like this
gives a good indication of where this crime problem is really at. It
says people are more afraid of the gangs than they are of the law. Or
they don't feel any moral responsibility to the rest of us.

This week's incidents show how free and unafraid these people feel. They
are carrying guns all the time. You have to be careful because you don't
know who has one. If there is one rat you do spot, there's 100 you
didn't. You are probably never more than a few metres from a gun.

Maybe that's Moalin-Mohamed sitting next to you right now. If it is,
call 911 and get out of there -- not necessarily in that order.




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"Simply banning guns we don't think would be effective," Harper said.

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"Simply banning guns we don't think would be effective," Harper said.
Date: Nov 24, 2006 7:03 AM
PUBLICATION: The Toronto Star
DATE: 2006.11.24
EDITION: MET
SECTION: GTA
PAGE: E01
BYLINE: Jim Byers
SOURCE: Toronto Star
WORD COUNT: 788
ILLUSTRATION: Mayor David Miller, flanked byPrime Minister Stephen
Harper and Premier Dalton McGuinty, addresses a press conference
yesterday. Rene Johnston toronto star

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Leaders gather in rare accord

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Partway through a rare press conference attended by Prime Minister
Stephen Harper, Premier Dalton McGuinty and Mayor David Miller, Harper
said Criminal Code changes designed to crack down on gun violence aren't
going to solve Canada's crime problems but they're a solid start. The
same might be said for the fact that the three men simply stood together
and kept their rhetorical weapons in their holsters.

The three leaders have been wrapped in a nasty fight during the past few
weeks over everything from fiscal imbalances to failed World's Fair
bids. But Toronto politicians say the fact they were able to put aside
their differences for a major anti-crime move that Miller and McGuinty
had been pushing for is a positive sign.

"It's good to have the Prime Minister say 'Yes' to Toronto,"
Miller
said. "It's a start, and it's a good start."

"I'm very pleased that all three levels of government were able to agree
on this," said Toronto Councillor Karen Stintz (Ward 16,
Eglinton-Lawrence), one of several right-wing council members invited to
yesterday's press conference by the federal Tory government. "It's
good
to see some agreement, and now we need to see similar co-operation on
transportation and other issues" important to the city.

"Between the three of us we pretty much cover the political spectrum,"
Harper said with a smile. "But today we are partisans for the same
cause; reclaiming safe streets and safe communities for all Canadians."

Miller said it was the first time he could remember sharing a stage with
McGuinty and Harper. The three men talked about a variety of subjects
prior to the press conference but Miller said it wasn't the time to
bring up outstanding grievances. All three leaders took turns
complimenting one another during the briefing and collectively urged all
federal parties to back the new legislation.

Bill C-10, the legislation introduced in Ottawa yesterday, provides
what's called a "reverse onus" in bail hearings for offences that
involve firearms.

"This bail reform package will apply to people when they stand accused
of serious crimes involving firearms," said Harper. "As the law stands,
anyone accused of ... heinous acts is granted bail and allowed to roam
the streets unless a prosecutor can persuade a judge to hold them in
jail. This is unacceptable. Our legislation will reverse the onus, so
that people charged with serious gun crimes will have to demonstrate to
the courts why they should not stay in custody until their trial."

Harper said there have been nearly 1,000 crimes involving firearms or
restricted weapons this year in Toronto and that almost 40 per cent were
allegedly committed by someone on bail, parole, temporary absence or
probation. Toronto police told the Star that 70 per cent of people
charged in a homicide this year were under a court order at the time of
the slaying and that 29 of this year's homicide victims were allegedly
killed by someone already on bail, probation or under a court order not
to possess firearms at the time of the slaying.

McGuinty called the new measures "tough and responsible" and said the
message is clear - "when you pick up a gun and commit a crime, you lose
your right to be free."

Miller said he hopes the legislation will encourage witnesses to gun
crimes to talk to police and be comfortable knowing that criminals will
remain behind bars and not out on bail.

"As we have seen in Toronto over the past 48 hours, we have to be
relentless in our efforts against guns," Miller said, referring to a
pair of shooting incidents in the city.

"Guns serve one purpose and one purpose only, and that is to kill," said
the mayor, who was re-elected in a landslide last week. "They give
cowardly criminals the capacity to become killers with minimal thought
and far too much ease, and far too often those killed or injured weren't
even the target, like Chantel Dunn, Jane Creba and Louise Russo."

Despite the kissy-kissy behaviour, there were some obvious differences
on display at yesterday's briefing.

Both Miller and McGuinty sounded another call for a ban on handguns,
something the Prime Minister rejected. "Simply banning guns we don't
think would be effective," Harper said. "What we do need to do is stop
the smuggling of illegal weapons."

Near the end of the press conference, Harper - no doubt conscious of the
need to shore up support in Ontario and Quebec before the impending
election - also made a point of saying that changes are needed to
Canada's criminal justice system to end "decades of neglect," a clear
shot at the long-reigning Liberals.

Still, yesterday was mostly a time to dial down the rhetoric and
demonstrate a rare degree of co-operation among leaders of Canada, its
largest province and its biggest city.

Now all they have to do is make it last.

with files from Tracy Huffman and canadian press




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this is NOT crime control.................. murderers should be in jail or worse......NOT walking the streets!


TORONTO: Of the 46 accused murderers, 32 (70%) were on bail, probation or subject to a court order
Date: Nov 24, 2006 7:13 AM
PUBLICATION: GLOBE AND MAIL
DATE: 2006.11.24
PAGE: A18 (ILLUS)
BYLINE: JENNIFER LEWINGTON AND TIMOTHY APPLEBY
SECTION: Toronto News
EDITION: Metro
WORD COUNT: 877

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Harper touts tougher bail rules 'Reverse-onus' legislation will help
control gun violence, Miller and McGuinty say

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With the Premier of Ontario and the mayor of Canada's biggest city
strongly at his side yesterday in Toronto, Prime Minister Stephen Harper
announced new federal legislation to toughen bail conditions for
gun-related crimes.

Under the proposed legislation, introduced yesterday in the House of
Commons, those charged with gun crimes will have to show why they should
not stay in custody until a trial -- a "reverse onus" provision that
Premier Dalton McGuinty and Mayor David Miller have urged for months.

Unless an accused is already charged with an indictable offence, current
rules require prosecutors to show why the person charged with a gun
offence should not be released on bail.

"Today, we are partisans for the same cause -- reclaiming safe streets
and safe communities for all Canadians," Mr. Harper said.

"They want the scales of justice rebalanced." The Prime Minister's
announcement, his first with the Premier and the mayor since he was
elected in January, was made on the heels of three shooting incidents in
Toronto this week.

Meanwhile, the Toronto Police Service reports that 70 per cent of those
arrested on homicide charges this year (32 of 46 people) were either on
bail or probation or under court-ordered prohibitions at the time of the
crime.

The Prime Minister's pledge of legislation, telegraphed in August by
Justice Minister Vic Toews, is not the first move to create reverse-onus
provisions in the Criminal Code.

For that reason, Mr. Harper says he is confident the proposal can
withstand a constitutional challenge from people who fear a loss of
rights for those accused of a crime. "I believe we are standing on
strong ground," he said. "It's essential for public safety."
Under
existing law, people accused of organized-crime offences, terrorism and
drug trafficking must explain to bail courts why they should be freed
while awaiting trial.

The issue of gun crimes has moved to the front burner in many cities,
including Toronto, where 52 of last year's 78 homicides were committed
with firearms.

Both Mr. Miller and Mr. McGuinty praised the Prime Minister for the
legislation and urged all federal parties to endorse it.

"When it comes to anything that threatens our families and the safety of
our communities, that is an issue that transcends partisan politics,"
the Premier said.

Mr. Miller said the tougher approach on bail is necessary because "guns
are different than anything else. . . . They give cowardly criminals the
cap to become killers with minimal thought and far too much ease." Law
enforcement officials also endorsed the proposal.

"We have seen an extremely disturbing and increasing trend in the last
several years with people we wind up arresting for murder are on bail
for previous serious criminal offences -- assaults, sexual assaults,
previous shootings, attempted murder et cetera -- who continue to commit
these crimes," said Staff Inspector Brian Raybould, who heads the
Toronto homicide squad. "These are people who are under firearms
restrictions and other restrictions who are breaching them on a
continuing basis." The news conference, which included a hand-picked
audience of about 30 people who peppered the Prime Minister's speech
with applause, was notable for the cordial tone among three politicians
who have sparred publicly in recent months.

Mr. McGuinty has made little headway in pressing the federal government
to close the so-called fiscal gap he says Ontario is experiencing.

Last week, despite handily winning a second term on a platform that
recommended reverse-onus legislation, Mr. Miller was immediately
rebuffed in his call for federal and provincial governments to share one
cent of the 14 cents in sales tax revenue they collect from the city.

Yesterday, the Premier and Mr. Miller sidestepped any direct criticism
of the Prime Minister, who does not endorse the other two politicians'
push for a ban on handguns.

"I kind of like the Prime Minister saying yes to Toronto," said Mr.
Miller, an apparent reference to the speedy no to his pitch for a share
of tax revenues that grow with the economy. "We will keep finding ways
to say yes together." For his part, Mr. Harper said: "Canadians want us
to work together when we can. There is a lot we have in common in terms
of dealing with the crime problem." Toronto Councillor Karen Stintz,
sometimes a critic of the mayor, praised his warm words for the Prime
Minister.

"It is a positive step for the city of Toronto to build a solid
relationship with other levels of government," she said. "I was pleased
and very proud of the mayor." ***** Repeat offenders Bail, release on
terms of varying strictness pending a further court appearance, is not
the only court-ordered restriction that is violated when a subsequent
offence is committed.

Toronto has had 62 homicides this year. Of those, 41 have been cleared,
with 46 people either arrested or sought on arrest warrants. In four of
the 62 homicides, criminal proceedings ended because the accused
committed suicide. Of the 46 accused, 32 -- or 70 per cent -- were
either on bail, on probation or subject to some other court order.
Fourteen were subject to multiple court orders. Among 32 people facing
murder or manslaughter charges: * 14 were on bail at the time of the
offence; * 13 were on probation; * 17 were subject to
firearms-prohibition orders. Four are juveniles and 21 are aged 18 to
25.

Toronto Police Homicide Squad




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CONCEALED CARRY LAW GIVES BUSINESSES A BOOST . .

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. . . Firearms retailers in Kansas are seeing increased business due to the state's five-month-old concealed-carry law, reports The Wichita Eagle.

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/business/16047821.htm

Businesses have also been able to boost business by offering concealed-carry classes.



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Another liberal holier than thou HYPOCRITE!!!!

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ANTI-GUN MAYOR CONVICTED ON GUN CHARGES . . . Frank Melton, mayor of Jackson, Miss., and member of New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" coalition, was convicted last week on two misdemeanor charges for carrying a weapon into a church and a park. In a third charge, reduced from what had previously been a felony count, the mayor pleaded no contest to carrying a gun on a university campus. Melton excused his criminal acts by stating, "I'm not another citizen. I am the mayor of Jackson." NSSF senior vice president and general counsel Lawrence G. Keane called upon Bloomberg to kick Melton out of his coalition. "Sadly, he's just another politician who believes he's above the law. If he had a shred of dignity he would resign." Melton will be allowed to stay in office.



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Re: Another liberal holier than thou HYPOCRITE!!!!

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http://www.11alive.com/news/usnews_article.aspx?storyid=87680

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- Mayor Frank Melton, who has taken a hard stand against the city's rising crime rate, pleaded guilty to weapons charges Wednesday in a deal with prosecutors that lets him stay in office and out of jail.

The mayor stood and acknowledged the agreement more than 90 minutes after his trial on the charges was to start. A jury had already been seated.

Melton, 57, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors for carrying a weapon into a church and a park, and no contest to a reduced charge on what had been a felony count involving a gun on a university campus.

He was given a six-month suspended sentence on each count, plus one year probation, and was fined $1,500.


(any other citizen would have been thrownin jail ! and had he been a Republican it would have been demanded that he resign )


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Turkey day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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