but I have higher expectations for this team than 30 wins every year. That's still below 0.500 and that's still losing more than winning. For me, that is not success and I don't think you'd find a player on that team, or even Brodsky himself, admitting that always lurking around 0.500 is the ultimate goal.
The issue is not whether he wants to win, because I think it's a no-brainer that he does, but rather whether he has what it takes to build a winner. History tells us that he does not and until that changes, the team is not going to get their large scale support back.
Anyway, the debate was fun. I'll just agree to disgaree on our opinions. Later.