It seems like i am making contact with the heel. This happens often now that i am trying the grip completion, could it be that i release the club and the clubface opens ? The shot is without power and the ball scoots to the right. I am determined to keep at it because i believe that the grip completion is essential to the reflex swing. I have been experimenting with all kinds of grips for many years. Waiting for the dvd, hope it will help me.Thanks for the interest Snakedoc.