Sorry. I dictated my imput and didn't check enough. I was talking about my thumb placement on the club. In GSOTF Mindy talks about a "strong three or four knuckle grip" with the thumb in approximately 3 o'clock position. In G:TTB he 'weakens' the grip slightly and opens the stance. The latter is the newer stance. I used the newer one for a year, and have now found myself prefering the older swing.