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In reading the golf world article with Mindy from that blog i have a few questions about

July 23 2008 at 1:10 PM
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what he said if anyone can explain it to me i
would appreciate it.

Mindy- "The hands must be used in reflex to transmit the
power generated by the legs and body"

There are two ways of hitting a golf ball.

One is where you take the club to the top of the back swing in a windup,and then from the top you unwind
so that the club head is going like the clappers as
fast as it can and you get a lot of length."

The other way is to take the club to the top of the back swing and then by using the power of the legs
gradually WINDUP ON THE DOWN SWING so that everything
is absolutely tight.
during THE FINAL BIT JUST AS YOU KEEP THE PRESSURE
THUR THE BALL, THE HANDS "EXPLODE" - IT'S REALLY
A REFLEX ACTION- AND ALTHOUGH THE CLUB HEAD IS NOT
GOING ANYWHERE AS FAST AS THE OTHER METHOD, THE
CLUB STAYS ON THE BALL LONGER.

MY question is how do you wind up on the down swing?
Mind'y swing seems almost like the wet towel drill
where you put a towel on the end of the club head and drag it Thur to get the feeling of lag.

Mindy admits that his down swing speed is slower than the
conventional way, but the reflex explosion at the ball
makes up for it.

I misunderstood the reflex stuff - i thought it had to
do with the legs causing some kind of reflex
to suddenly increase club head speed.
Apparently Mindy's reflex has something to do with
the hands at impact- an explosion that makes up for
slower swing speed of his swing method. HE mentions
Hogan who talked about trapping the ball- if it is the
same type of action that Mindy believes his swing
produces i don't know.

Well that's a lot of typing for me and i have a lot more questions about what Miny Said nin the article-
Any way to get that article posted here to make it easier
to refer to parts of it?

 
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July 23 2008, 4:31 PM 

The issues you ask about have been discussed numerous times on this forum, though not necessarily resolved to everyone's satisfaction. The Golf World article you referred to is already posted in the Photo Album under Mindy Blake photos.

Winding up on the downswing: I surmise what Blake meant is the muscles between the legs and hands are maximally stretched during the downswing and are thus in their optimal state for transmitting force from legs to hands.

Hands 'Explode': I speculate that Mindy believed the explosion feel was of the power from the legs suddenly being released from the hands to the club. But why would exerting pressure (force applied over time) feel like an 'explosion'? Some might say this reveals that Mindy's swing was really just conventional and he was feeling 'release' as many golfers do.

The reflex idea: My interpretation of Blake's notion is that he thought 'pressure' applied by the legs could be made to be felt at the hands, and by extension the club, by using the muscles between legs and hands as the channel for application of pressure. The in-between muscles are used in 'reflex', not overtly contracted, but rather 'relaxed and stretched'. The backswing (and downswing) stretch the muscles and ideally position the whole body so that pressure can be applied at impact. The downswing is actually a dragging action, ie, the legs pull the upper body down with no apparent effort by the upper body. From his field athletics knowledge, Blake viewed the position of the trail elbow as critical to connecting the lower and upper body. He wrote: "The right elbow is thrust forward across the body so the legs can lever the hands." With the legs and hands as the two ends of a lever, pressure applied at one end (legs) is felt at the other end (hands).

The pressure idea and impact duration: My understanding of the physics of impact between ball and club is that it's a 'momentary collision'. The time duration of impact (about .0004 seconds) is so small that the ball has separated from the clubhead before 'pressure', in the sense of force applied over time, is not operative. This would also seem to negate Blake's idea of the reflex swing producing a longer impact duration than a high-speed swing. SD



    
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Cracking the Whip

September 3 2008, 10:35 PM 

The visualisation I use is the cracking of a whip.

You start by taking your arm back. You are not winding up against muscles. It is a simple relaxed motion. Similar to Mindy's description of the back-swing.

With the whip you use your arm muscles to accelerate the whip handle forward smoothly. Too fast or jerky and the whip will not go anywhere useful. The arms for the whip are the legs for Mindy's golf swing.

If you accelerate the whip handle smoothly the whip itself will swing round and extend into a line in front. It behave in reflex. Unlike our bodies it does not have any power to do otherwise. It either works or not depending on how we use our arm. If we consider our upper body, arms and hands as the whip, then we can let then act in reflex to the power of the legs.

As the whip becomes fully extended the tip takes on all the power of the arms concentrated causing it to curl round on itself to a resounding crack. In golf that is the point where we make contact to the ball transferring all the power of our legs into an explosion that sends the ball flying.

Having said all that, our body is not inanimate. I am not sure all the power comes from the legs. It is true that an arms only swing is very week, but is it all coming from the legs? Personally I think it is our core doing both the coordination and providing much of the power. Come to think of it the same goes for cracking a whip - it is our core not our arms there too.

Either way, Mindy made it clear in his first book that the only important parts are to minimise hip movement and to don't wind round the body with the arms. In other words if your set-up and take-away are good then the rest comes for free (well almost).

Personally I am doing way better on the set-up than the take-away. Even so I am seeing some excellent results. Far fewer bad shots. Better results when the hit was less than it could be. 2 clubs extra distance.

 
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Downswing Sequence

September 4 2008, 10:16 AM 

If you start the downswing with your legs (Richard Wax interprets this as a turning of the hips) while leaving your torso muscles relaxed the result will be an increase in the differential between hips and shoulders - 'winding up' in the downswing. If you do not normally do this (most don't) it will feel very odd.

Peter

 
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