penn lake (i think) in September





not really sure where this is David maybe?? in May




I have since started tracking my pics better so I know where I take them lol

Nice Pics is there really ever a bad picture of the park

Thanx

beautiful colours

oh, in the second pic ther is a moose (probably a cow, depending on if that is a calf behind it, more bright)
at first sight they took on as driftwood.

and if you look real close in the first pic, you can see bigfoot peaking behind the red leaves.
:)

algoalex

Edge,

That first picture looks like you took it from the island, just above the falls on the north end of Pen Lake. nice one.

Mike L said, Nice Pics is there really ever a bad picture of the park

Unfortunately there are some bad pics of The Park;




Mark Rubino
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yup thats where is was taken


question for you Markus, when you find bottles do you take them with you?

the only reason I ask is because some sites are really bad for that and there is a couple sites that I would like to return to and get rid of the garbage, it would really suck if a ranger stopped you and found 15 large bottles in your canoe
you end up leaving the park with $300 in fines lol

Hi Edge,

Take garbage out, bottles and cans and such?
Sometimes I do, but not always. It depends on my circumstances.
Most times I end up finding them on a long-ish trip, going in, and all I can think of, is I really don't want to haul someone else's garbage around for 7 or 8 days. But if I'm on my way out and I have the time and space, it's usually no problem.
It's the glass that's the pain of it all. As for rangers spotting you with garbage, even if they did notice the cans and bottles, they are smart enough to realize that you're a garbage collector and not a litter-bug. I wouldn't worry too much about it,



Mark Rubino
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How does the saying go? I'm going to paraphrase it a bit ... "One man's garbage is another man's cultural artifact."

Garbage left at a campsite's by campers is fair game for hauling out.

However, old dumps are more common than you may think. Most of them are back in from portages and river mouths where old logging work-camps used to be located. And there are dumps behind old leaseholder camp and cottage sites. The content of these old dumps usually falls under 'historical artifacts'. These items should be left where they are. Removal of these artifacts may only be performed by authorized staff.

The dumps' old bottles and pieces of discarded equipment would normally be considered 'collector items' for sure. However, to remove these items is considered 'theft of items of historical and cultural significance'.

So, we should limit out 'garbage-hauling-out' to genuine on-campsite, on-trail or on-water types of garbage.

Please leave the 'artifacts' to archeological students or staff working for the park. There's nothing wrong with examining these items, photographing them, precisely identifying their locations and sharing that info with the park office. However, we shouldn't 'publicly post' their precise locations, since unscrupulous people could then 'pilfer' the items.

Barry Bridgeford
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There used to be all sorts of artifacts at the Kitty Lake cabin. My favourite was the coffee mug, with the rusted out bottom. Year by year, these things disappeared. There were all sorts of old metal bits, including pieces of the old stove that was removed during the Park's retrofit. It was interesting to look around, see the items, imagine what life was like back in the old days, before all this lightweight stuff became de rigeur.

If it's an old can/bottle dump, just leave it. Tell the Park folks about it, if you like. Depending on where it is, they probably already know.



Edge, very nice pics. Love that burst of "colour" in the first one.

And thanks to algoalex for pointing out the mommy and baby in the second one. Can't believe it, but I didn't see them at first!



Barbara

While Barry makes a good point about artifacts, and indeed my first picture did have old bottles and cans..dating back more than 50 years. The picture below I would not consider an artifact, but true trash. What was really upsetting was that this garbage was left behind by people with vehicle access...how lazy can you get? I guess they figured if it is left behind, it'll be an artifact in 50 years too?





Mark Rubino
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Yup, two completely different situations....apples and kiwis.

The key in communicating and in educating is clarity.








Barbara

And Barry covered that situation, too, in his post:


Garbage left at a campsite's by campers is fair game for hauling out.





Barbara