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Rob W.
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Re: Need to replace my old tent ...

November 21 2013, 9:41 AM 

Looks good, nice weight and you don't see many tents with the 3000mm water proofing on the floor these days so I really like that part. Looking forward to your reports on field testing it. happy.gif


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Re: Need to replace my old tent ...

November 21 2013, 10:57 AM 

Ha! How fortuitous! Some days the planets align...

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Barry Bridgeford
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Different floor material!

November 22 2013, 3:31 PM 

Hey Rob. Your comment "you don't see many tents with the 3000mm water proofing on the floor these days" has proven to be quite relevant to the tent I acquired.

If you view the following January 2012 YouTube, at around the 20 second mark you'll hear the fellow say "We use really lightweight rainfly and floor fabric to help bring down those overall backpacking weights down." As he's saying that, look at the tents' floor material colour. It's orange like the rest of the tent. That's what I've got on my tent .. lightweight orange floor material. No way that's 3000mm gauge. .. http://youtu.be/ly2-QR42oUg

I'm familiar with the 3000mm gauge floor material Marmot uses as I have it in my oversized Marmot campground tent. Its grey, rubbery and noticeably thick .. as in shown in the 2013 Marmot website description of the Astral 3 as its being produced now. The grey material is also visible in this April 2013 YouTube video http://youtu.be/DkYqT4O4iFo .

So, it looks to me like they originally (2012) produced it with lightweight flooring and subsequently (2013) changed its specs to a floor with 3000mm waterproofing, no doubt bringing up the tent's weight!

All this leads me to ask you all, what measures (if any) do you take to augment your tent's floor .. outside "footprint", inside "plastic-sheet-pan", etc?

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Rob W.
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Re: Need to replace my old tent ...

November 22 2013, 4:54 PM 

For my newer MSR Mutha Hubba I'm just using the external footprint and relying on the manufacturers waterproofing on the floor. For my older tents where the waterproofing has been worn off then I'm using a blue poly tarp on the inside of the tent.

Now, I wonder if other manufacturers might be starting to increase the waterproofing on the floors of their tents again. I'm all for lightweight but if I have to carry an extra tarp it cancels out pretty quickly.



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Eric Ryckman
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tent floor

November 22 2013, 6:24 PM 

I use a tarp that is longer an wider than the tent and I use it inside the tent. If the tent does leak or saturate through you have a "tub" inside your tent to back you up. If the tent is expensive you can protect the floor with a footprint but I usually get a new tent if the floor wears out and I try save weight so the footprint usually stays at home and I try put the tent on soft surface to protect tent floor. Most of this depends on length of trip. Short trips you can use weather report before heading in but long trips I take the precautionary items and plan for the worst.

 
 

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Re: Need to replace my old tent ...

November 25 2013, 2:44 PM 

A random sampling of 5 tents sold at MEC (TGV 2, Tarn 3, Wanderer 2, Wanderer 4, and North Wind), all show the floors with a waterproof rating of 10,000mm. All far in excess of the Marmot Astral 3 3,000mm rating. I suspect there are, in fact, lots of tents out there with a rating much greater than 3,000mm, so I don't understand the Rob W statement there are few available with 3,000mm.

 
 

Rob W.
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Re: Need to replace my old tent ...

November 25 2013, 3:30 PM 

I'd have to go back and look, it could well have been that the discussions I'm remembering were about how many tents had dropped the floor waterproofing to 3,000mm instead of 10,000mm.

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EstherMBronson
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Re: Need to replace my old tent ...

November 25 2013, 5:02 PM 

I use a groundsheet made from a "blue/green" tarp cut to measure 1" less than length & width of floor size on ground under tent. This protects the outside of floor from dirt and punctures from sticks/rocks, etc. and helps cut moisture. Then inside I use the North49 "TentPrint",which is a lightweight soft vinyl black "tarp" which I bought at Canadian Tire, great price. TentPrints come in various shapes & sizes. This is to block any subsequent moisture through floor and also protects floor from our dogs' toenails. Guess I am not a minimalist camper but comfort to me is worth it!

 
 
 
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