Well it finally happened to me - instead of receiving a Planet Ocean this week in the mail I received a bottle of Canadian spring water and a broken tape rule. I wonder why he bothered to send anything - except perhaps he wanted to prove to the authorities he shipped something. I offered to pay shipping fully insured via Fedex or UPS - instead he sent it without insurance via regular mail. That was my first indication that anything was wrong. His communications after he received my wire was also terrible - but he claimed he was sick...

CHRIS B (which he also goes by) is from Ontario Canada. Even though he had few transactions (one Panerai which he sold to someone in Australia) which I checked but now wonder if his reference was part of the scam - I went through with the deal because he sounded legitimate. At the last minute prior to wiring funds I also asked him to take a pic of the watch on his RIGHT wrist = one showing the dial and one showing the clasp - which I received in about 15 minutes of my request. So I know he had the watch; shipping it was obviously the problem !

I doubt if I will recover anything but certainly would appreciate any tips about what to do next. I am providing this post more as a WARNING to others not to deal with this character. I did not find CHRIS B on this forum, however, he claims to be a Paneristi AND says that he sold one previously (a 188 to the fellow in Australia) and said he was going to buy another with my funds - so hence the warning.

I have included his personal info below - again any help would be appreciated ! best MATES, Marc

Full name : CHRISTOPHER BARD
Bank Name: CIBC (Canadian Imperial Bank Of Commerce)
Account Number : 7916736
Branch/Transit Number : 01086
Swift Code : CIBCCATT
Institution # : 010 (bank identification number )
Routing # : 026009593
Bank Address:
CIBC (Canadian Imperial Bank Of Commerce)
Barrhaven Town Center
3777 Strandherd Rd.
Nepean Ontario K2J4B1
Canada

Chris' Personal Address:
22 Bellamy Unit #4
Cornwall, ON, K6J 3K7
Canada

cheers
niellaccio
daniele from italy

Niellaccio: Sounds good!!
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Well here's where he lives, according to a real estate listing.



http://cornwall.kijiji.ca/c-housing-apartments-for-rent-1-bedroom-22-Bellamy-W0QQAdIdZ130898599

There's a phone number on that page for what might be the landlord.

I hate reading this kind of post which is becoming far too common !

Early in my Internet dealings I had it happen to me when I was sent a fake AP ROO and have had a couple of other problems over the years .

It is a shame because some of my best friends these days are through Watch Fora ,

I hope that this guy is found and suffers the consequences for his behaviour.

All the best,


Vic

with the 188 he claims he sold (per you). He sounded dodgy when I spoke to him and frankly I didnt feel comfortable sending 4100.00 (for a 188 which sounded too good to be true) to Canada. I offered to fly there and meet him but he never answered that request.

Sorry to hear about your loss. With this happening and Obama winning the Peace Prize, I just think to myself 'What is this world coming to'


Sorry again brother.

you wired him the money, and you have all his bank account info, can't you call the bank, and tell them that it was a fraud? or make a report to the police?

Hopefully it will goes well for you.

Guys,

This is not the scammers real name, simply another fake alias. I have the e-mail contact of a fraud detective with the Ottawa Police who is also working with another officer with the Cornwall Police and the Canadian Post inspectors who have told me they been investigating this for nearly a year. This scammer has used many different names, we were able to contact one of these names and apparently this guy pays off other guys to accept wires with their bank details. I became involved when one of my American friends was ripped off by one of his aliases and I have been working with other hobbyists to close in on him.

My guess this is an East European (Romanian, Slavic or Russian) crime ring working out of Ottawa, Canada. It's also clear that Cornwall which is a small Canadian city just serves as a false outpost. We talked to three different banks, and we will contact this bank. By searching one of the scammers e-mails I came to learn about two more victims who were burnt after receiving a fraudulent cashiers check from a gentleman in Cornwall, Ontario.

I was asked not to give out further more details because the scammer is most likely an avid reader of this forum. You may however forward me your details and trading references, in which I will provide the details for my contact with the fraud detective in Ottawa.

The case is closing in (we hope) after many victims have lost their wallets, hopefully in a short while this scammer will lose something much more valuable, his freedom.

You guys MUST pursue these thieves legally! Please just don't accept your loss as fate and let it go.

So he does post FS PAMs on risti.... I also saw that PO for sale at the same time!

ON Timezone, Paneristi, Vintage Rolex Forum, WatchUseek, he is an outgoing scammer... when one source goes dry, he jumps to another forum. He's been doing it non-stop for nearly a year, I think he has a cocaine addiction (seriously). All frauds from Ottawa and Cornwall are due to the same single guy who uses different names to receive wires, from victims that unknowingly allow him to use their banks in return get to keep commission (usually students). Never does he ever have a watch, he steals the photos and uses Adobe Photoshop to appear like his name is written next to the pic, but in reality he's got and never had NOTHING

He is a lowlife criminal

So he does post FS PAMs on risti.... I also saw that PO for sale at the same time!

what does "chris" bard say, does he live here ?

Does this look familiar?

Pavel Rabinski and Christopher Bard are scammers.

They are the same person, the guy is a Russian low life living in Ottawa. Chris Bard is a fake name he uses to accept wires just like most the others.

Hi Marc,


Really sorry about that. Internet sales is getting more and more dangerous, I believe only those I know since early days of this forum. I have a good method to know if a guy is potential a scammer.

Guy does not have a watch at all.

- Pretend you'll be in town for other business, so you can have a face to face deal. Copy the emails header and post it in this internet page(http://www.ip-adress.com/trace_email/) so you can have the location of this person. This way you can check if the address he provides is correct.

Guy has a fake watch

- Offer to close the deal at a official Panerai dealer, so you can check the watch's condition and if it is original.

You sell the watch, guy want's to pay cash.

- Make an appointment at a local bank or pretend to have a device so you can check the bills.

If the person is a criminal, THE Y WILL EVER answer again your emails.

best,

Marc