Thank for all the responses. It really helps and brings me back to thinking that maybe the 25 would be the better choice for a daily. I'd hate to have my first really great watch and have seconds thoughts about wearing it because of lack of comfort. Maybe I should save the 243 for a later watch or once I add a second PAM. I'm just scratching the surface of all the different panerai models. I kinda landed on the submersibles first since I love the style and I tend to dress very casually. I like that the line is fairly simple and easy to realize all of the variations. I live up in the mountains in northern arizona. It's kinda scary but I don't think I'll be happy till I have a small collection. Luckily I have a very understanding wife:) Anyway, Ill keep looking at 243 and 24, 25's until I find a nice example for the right price. Thanks again, this forum has been very cool to lurk in.