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318 pictures update. Sorry can't respond to emails

October 22 2011 at 11:26 PM

Sidekick  (Login demand-n-supply)
from IP address 166.137.138.52

Two things

1. I still buy and collect Panerai watches
2. I did not know this was correct when I posted the watch on the forum.

Sorry the watch is real and we can have a civil discussion about this or not.

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Chris Launder
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110.32.247.142

You're right , its real !

October 22 2011, 11:43 PM 


I just think a few ( well , more than a few ) people
were taken aback that Panerai would put such a low grade
movement in a Boutique watch , heck , it isn't even stamped
Panerai , pointless cost cutting , particularly given the
minimal difference in the wholesale price .

I know some people will come back and say ' but its a tool watch ' ,
but there is nothing I can find in the rules of Swiss Watchmaking
that says a tool watch justifies a crap movement , certainly
every other Swiss manufacturer that I'm aware of doesn't
subscribe to that line of thought .

I hope you enjoy the watch , but for me , that movement
kills any interest in that particular reference .

Regards & thanks for posting ( both posts ) .

Chris .

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Jpvfx
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Its a classic NY piece, regardless.

October 22 2011, 11:47 PM 

And for a NY risti wink.gif its got to be the bomb! wink.gif
I'm just a little surprised that the 'Bridges' don't seem to even have Panerai stamped on them. I understand the movement its under a solid caseback but still - shouldn't it at least say Panerai!
HAGWE
Jp


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charles
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thanks for the pics, Neeraj ...

October 22 2011, 11:50 PM 

but I am not surprised that the movement is not finished, the case back is ...

I can't believe that watch has been out for 2 years (plus or minus) and you're the first to discover this ... actually, I can believe it.

As long as it doesn't get personal, Id love to hear what others think.

thanks

 
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L(uke)
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I was indifferent at first >>>

October 23 2011, 12:07 AM 


The watch movement is a base ETA 6497 workhorse manual movement, thrown into a 44MM Luminor case with a very nice Brooklyn Bridge etched caseback. For the price point, initially I really didn't care. But, we are talking Panerai. Where is the effort? These movement can be had for a few hundred dollars.

I have a 318 and the 417. What's behind the caseback on these 41x Boutique Editions?








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Chris Launder
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actually , the cost of the 418 ebauche

October 23 2011, 12:16 AM 

would be south of $100 .

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Zameen Zahari
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Thanks for posting this Neeraj...it's very interesting to see which other models>>>

October 23 2011, 12:16 AM 

Where Panerai took the same approach of equipping it with an unfinished movement. TFS!

 
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Barams
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Thanks Neeraj! IMO it's a solid case back so why does it need to be finished?

October 23 2011, 12:28 AM 

Do the other solid case back movements have Panerai engravings?

Thanks again Neeraj for showin us the guts of the 318

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Chris Launder
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traditionally ..... in Swiss watchmaking ...

October 23 2011, 1:15 AM 

The quality of the movement finishing
has had nothing to do with wether or not
the watch has a solid or display back ,
in fact , display backs are a relatively
recent development . It always been (
up until now ) about pride in the quality
of the product leaving the factory .

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Luciano Chao
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solid casebacks with engraved mvmt

October 23 2011, 3:02 AM 

Hi, just available at ref section, from Maurits famous post.

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All mvmt seemed to be engraved, Pre-Vendomes,Pre-As, 0005/000.....

also, low beat 18000 VPH like this were only on early watches.

This mvmt on 318 is the very same shown at internet on "homages" on $300 level -- plain and simple ETA. hard to understand that! Even Dievas and Stainharts use better finished with Cotes de Geneve at least.

best

 
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Harlan
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Thanks for sharing. (nt)

October 23 2011, 12:43 AM 



Harlan
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Richard
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I look at the 417's Caseback not at the movement.

October 23 2011, 12:51 AM 



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Valerie Meyer
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Glad that you didn't get ripped off, disappointed in the movement

October 23 2011, 12:50 AM 

Not exactly what I would have expected to see from Panerai

 
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Val
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159.33.10.92

Mind Blowing...

October 23 2011, 1:40 AM 

....however not in a good way. Just because the movement isn't displayed doesn't work for me. Would work from a profit point for a manufacturer. Total cost to manufacture would be incredibly low. This has to be a hoax tell me it's a hoax?


 
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Matt Gross
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Looking at the movement, it looks to be 18,000bph

October 23 2011, 2:04 AM 

Which would make it a 6497-1 and not a 6497-2 (making it far from the OP2 specs of 21,600bph). This is interesting, I hope to find out more about this.

 
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Matt Gross
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Found this in the archives

October 23 2011, 2:22 AM 

http://www.network54.com/Forum/638808/message/1253198146/Is+there+an+update+on+the+OP+XXIX+Calibre-

Looks to be not COSC.

Found this on an internet sales ad:

Incorporates EXCLUSIVE MOVEMENT that is not available in any other Panerai watches other than the Brooklyn Bridge (not exactly sure why) NOT COSC CERTIFIED - Panerai OP XXIX Calibre

Looks to be cheaper than the 005 in 2009, so this could explain it all.

 
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Rus
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After you open the caseback, when you screw the caseback on

October 23 2011, 2:05 AM 

would you be able to allign the engravings (the brooklyn bridge) such that it's allign on the same angle as the dial ? Just curious. Thanks.

 
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Aproster
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Wow...318 value just plummeted....

October 23 2011, 2:21 AM 

Amazing they would cheapo out like that....truly a SE, in the worst sense of it!

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Matt Gross
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I don't think it was a SE

October 23 2011, 2:22 AM 

It didn't come with a large SE box.

 
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Aproster
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Of course not....

October 23 2011, 2:28 AM 

That would have cost Panerai an extra $100 bucks

This one is "special" in all the wrong ways....cut costs, gouge the customer, max profit!!!

Nice one Panerai sad.gif


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