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Semi ot....which brand do you think presents the best value!

February 2 2013 at 1:09 PM
Pbase  (Login lumradsub)
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Curious to hear opinions from other watch collectors. We would probably all agree that luxry watches are overpriced and one should not try to justify if they are "worth" the money. I am not trying to do that, I just thought it would be interesting to see what brand you feel presents the most "value for your money" if you will. This isn't a price discussion....

I will start....I think Oris is a brand that gives you a lot of watch for the money, especially some of their divers, when purchased right.

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(Login handster)
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Oris...

February 2 2013, 1:19 PM 

i agree with Oris,i also think early Breitling models represent very good value.

 
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chris n
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UTS

February 2 2013, 1:30 PM 

If you pick up a UTS used...the value (for unknown reasons) drops to a silly price...I picked up a uts adventure, 500m Unitas, decorated. case pretty much as hand made as it can get....

 
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(Login TokyoSkier)
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+1!

February 2 2013, 1:36 PM 


 
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(Login TokyoSkier)
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Not sure about the price outside of Japan, but>>>

February 2 2013, 1:38 PM 

Zenith seems to be pretty impressive to me. Wonderful movement, design, and functions at a decent price, IMHO.

 
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gloomis
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rolex for me

February 2 2013, 2:51 PM 

durable, reliable, value for money n ever green design

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Pbase
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You are right

February 2 2013, 5:59 PM 

Cant go wrong with a classic like a sub, daytona, gmt, etc.....

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(Login shmeedr)
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Big +1 on Rolex. I think you lose the least amount of money down the line.

February 3 2013, 3:06 AM 

As Rolex is my favorite brand with Panerai a close second, I'm biased. As mentioned though, when buying pre-owned or grey market, Oris, Steinhart, Stowa, Laco and Sinn, all great choices, nice watches albeit at a lower price point. Nothing like a nice Rolex Sub or Panerai Base, those models never get old to me.

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Rich P
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Seiko

February 2 2013, 3:18 PM 

When I think of value, Seiko pops into my head.

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(Login toulouse2)
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Steinhart

February 2 2013, 3:38 PM 

They have some great offerings for very reasonable prices. Also Laco and Stowa.


 
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(Login LUCCHAO)
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Maybe you should separate the question - new and preowned

February 2 2013, 4:20 PM 

regarding when you buy it brand new, Rolex is the best, followed by PP (latter if you got nice price)

when bought pre owned, Omega and Zenith -- specially Zenith El Primero Chronos, IMO, the best mechanism ever

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(Login micah372)
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Sinn comes to mind, great technology, reasonable prices. [nt]

February 2 2013, 5:00 PM 



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Pbase
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Agree, but I dont

February 2 2013, 5:58 PM 

Thnk I have seen one in person.

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(Login latoyii)
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Good call, Micah. Sinn is a strong value.

February 2 2013, 6:50 PM 


 
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(Login Odin43)
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This one in particular

February 3 2013, 1:19 AM 

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Bruno
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a top 10 brand which is not overpriced yet is ZENITH

February 2 2013, 5:10 PM 


Read and learn more about the brand and you'll understand why.
If you know their history, inhouse movements, chronometry prices they won, ...

Then take a look at their listprice!
An inhouse chrono starts at 5500 euro. I like Panerai too but let's be honest, Panerai gives you a very simple
ETA based 111 for that price
a cheap ETA versus a legendary 36.000vph El Primero. Well I own a PAM111 but this makes you doubt

On par with others like for example JLC, but for almost half the price.

Why ? ( and this my personal opinion ) The brand had hard times when Mr Nataf launched these butt ugly Defy watches.
They did not sell and at that time were seriously overpriced.
Now, since 2009, with Mr Dufour as CEO they went back to their roots. Making superb watches with a lot of character (take
the impressive TYPE 20 as an example) And I think Mr Dufour kept prices low to rebuild trust and confidence.
I'm sure these prices will go up, can't be a bargain forever. Now is the time to buy.


And if you have much more to spend ... I like the JLC Gyrotourbillon but this Zenith Christophe Colomb is imo much more impressive



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Pbase
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Thanks...must say

February 2 2013, 5:57 PM 

I havent looked into Zenith much, because as you said, I remember the defy extreme which seemed incredibly expensive. This is a brand I will look at more closely.

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(Login mrpanerai)
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In my opinion........

February 2 2013, 6:05 PM 

There aren't any "True Luxury" brands the represent a good value.

However if you want to talk about some of the off name brands like

Frederique Constant and little sister Alpina, that offer in-house

movements at $2800.00 I also like the upper end Victorinox Swiss Armies

and Freelancer collection by Raymond Weil. Maurice Lacroix in their

early years made fantastic watches with real value and can be picked up

for no money in the secondary market.

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Hayseed
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GO

February 2 2013, 11:44 PM 

I respectfully disagree. I consider Glashutte Original a true luxury brand that represents good value. Look at the prices of their perpetual calendars. Also, Jeager Lecoultre offers you good value for your money. I guess it all depends on your definition of a good value. For some of the brands with ETA movements, I like JeanRichard. Classy and unique looking and you can usually get one for around 2 grand.

 
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(Login murphtyper)
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+1 to Alpina, I'm also a fan of Hamilton

February 2 2013, 8:21 PM 

Great value for $ in my opinion.

 
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(Login DanRan05)
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To me value means.............................

February 3 2013, 12:06 AM 

to be able to get a looker of a watch without breaking the bank, and not having to worry about where I wear my watch, be it in a pisser at some bar across from Comerica Staduim or just standard yard work. I feel that Seiko is a brand that has stood the test of time, (no pun intended), you can get one anywhere from $90.00 US to $7,900.00 US. And the brand covers from entry level all the way to Grand Seiko.

Here is my current collection.....................

Panerai Luminor Marina 111

Omega Seamaster on s/s bracelet Large 45.5mm

Helson Bronze Shark Diver

Hamilton Pilot 46mm

Debaufre Marine Master 47mm (Not water resistant)

Seiko Frankenmonster

Seiko Monster

Seiko Dive Watch older model, off hand forgot the numbers


The Panerai I wear on special occasions or to really chill and lay back, it gives me a more than fuzzy feeling inside.

The Omega is also worn on special occasions and when I feeling like kicking back.

The Bronze Helson I usually wear if I'm in a grunge mood. Low cut Red Wing shoes, worn jeans with the black t-shirt that has holes under the armpits, where the top of the pocket is ripped a little and the black on the t-shirt is really starting to fade.

The Hamilton Pilot is my core watch for my vast assortment of multi colored nato and zulu straps, those straps rock this watch. I usually wear the Hamilton when I have my favorite t-shirt and nice looking jeans on, Carhartt jeans work well with me when deciding which watch to wear.

On to the Seiko watches, before I get distracted. I love these watches for thier mere visual appearance along with quality and on the table value. I do not make "Bu Cu" bucks, so I can't afford to wear my 111 cutting grass or walking the dog down a dark alley @ 3am. If I do damage to one of my Seikos (and I mean major damage) I just begin to shop for another without breaking the bank. Don't get me wrong I love my Panerai and Omega, but to me it just doesn't make any sense to wear these kind of brands while weeding or if I'm in an enviroment that could cause me problems (meaning getting held up or robbed, and yes it happens. The Helson Bronze is also another wonderful watch, I probably will never make a wiser choice than I have as with this watch. For me I have to be in a certain mood, I also have to be dressed a certain way, and when I do it all comes together.

The Seiko brand seems to fit my lifestyle in a more casual and relaxed way.
The Seikos are game changers, I can wear one model with a dress shirt and the same model if I want to do some work outside. I can't tell you how accurate they are. With all of the websites out there you can even modify a Seiko to your own taste, be it the dial, the hands, the material of the case, the crown, the bezel, the strap. Now tell me what other watch brand out there allows you to have these kinds of choices for thier watches? (I thought that you might say that).

All in all, I like the Seiko brand for the value, appeal and selection, not to mention the accuracy as I mentioned.

To sum this all up, I would like to say one final thing. "Don't spinn your wheeles", what I mean is don't just settle for one watch brand and one only, there are many, many fine watch brands out there, learn to recognize them and appreciate them. Be true to yourself before being true to the brand.

I do hope that I have been helpful and wish you well with your journey of this madd, madd world of watch collecting. It has given me countless hours of pleasure as I do look forward to many, many more.


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(Login fza)
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i like your seiko's and your point off view

February 3 2013, 2:45 PM 


 
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(Login DanRan05)
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Thank you for the kind words.

February 3 2013, 7:34 PM 

I really am having trouble forgiving manufacturing issues concerning watches costing $5,000.00 and up. This is also one of the reasons that I choose Seiko. For all the years I can recall I have never had any problems with any of my Seikos. And to me that spells "Value". Thanks again for the good vibes.

 
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Yeu Huan
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Casio (since you did not specifically restrict the question to luxury brands)>>

February 3 2013, 12:24 AM 

Honestly if you look at price-to-function, plus good looks and collectability, this cannot be beat. I'm waiting for my fellow Shockeristis to agree happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif

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(Login DanRan05)
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Yuuuuup !

February 3 2013, 1:03 AM 

Couldn't agree more, Casio is a very affordable and functional watch.

 
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Look at the murukami Gs!!! Plus one here<nt>

February 4 2013, 6:55 AM 



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(Login jawn101)
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I always think Seiko and Breitling...

February 3 2013, 4:00 AM 

A lot of Breitling's designs are a little much for me lately, but there are a lot of really great older ones. And Seiko is pretty much a 100% in-house manufacture itself. They produce watches of great durability and diverse appearance. Plus they have some pretty fabulous technology in their higher end stuff (Grand Seiko and Spring Drive come to mind)

I have a whole mess of both and definitely enjoy them!

But I also love my G-Shocks. They have their place in my rotation as well.

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Jaeger Lecoultre

February 3 2013, 6:48 AM 

Hands down...

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Austin
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+1

February 3 2013, 4:23 PM 



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Konstantin
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Stowa

February 3 2013, 2:38 PM 

Got one of these and their quality and craftsmanship was amazing for sub $1000.

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Lars Andersen
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Fortis - I've been very happy ...

February 4 2013, 6:14 PM 

... with my reasonably priced Fortis B-42 pilots professional automatic chronograph.

Same base ticker as my 212.

But of course, the pam is still my darling wink.gif



There's watches, and there's time-telling devices. Wether you notice the difference is a question of passion!

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(Login NachoM)
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JLC, RLX and Tudor. Also some Panerai models.

February 4 2013, 6:26 PM 

Used to be Panerai, but actual prices are sick. Some pieces still are very good value.

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