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Anyone use spring bars in their Luminor?

April 13 2017 at 4:11 PM
Omega1300  (Login Gorilla_Wrists)
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Hey guys - have a question. I noticed when mounting my new straps (with tubes) that the fit against the case was pretty tight initially, and it took a bit of work to get the screw bar back in and aligned. I'm guessing this is mostly because these are brand new straps.

Now, I back-turned prior to screwing the bars back in and everything went smooth, but it got me thinking. What are the chances of stripping a lug? That would really suck. Anyone ever use spring bars to avoid potential stripping issues? Or am I just paranoid?

Thanks!!

 
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Beef
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IMHO...

April 13 2017, 4:58 PM 

There is no chance of stripping if you use caution as you have shown. I always turn backwards until I feel/hear the threads mesh, then I tighten. If you do this I don't see how you could possibly strip a thread. You'd have to be very aggressive and ham-fisted. I've been changing straps for 12 years with zero issues.

 
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Omega1300
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That's great to hear and very reassuring! Thank you Beef! NT

April 13 2017, 5:04 PM 


 
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Craig F
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+1 [nt]

April 14 2017, 9:35 PM 

-Craig F

 
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DON
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If the screw is hard getting the through the tube and aligned >>

April 13 2017, 5:06 PM 

It's because the strap and tube are not lined up with the holes in the lugs

Also tightness could be from strap edge material getting push up (or down) depending how you mount your straps.

If you notice any loose material around the tube area. Trim it away as it could also get pushed in front of the screw hole and get pressed in.

I assume your using OEM tubes?

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Omega1300
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Thanks Don...

April 13 2017, 5:35 PM 

Yes, OEM tubes. It wasn't crazy tight, like I had force the screws in or anything, it was more like the leather was pretty thick at the lug area (thicker than the OEM at least) that made it a bit more difficult to align. Once I shifted it around a bit, the screw dropped through - it just wasn't as quick as when I changed between OEM leather and rubber.

I think part of it is getting used to strap switching as I'm new at this, but I certainly don't want to damage anything. Perhaps I should not use tubes with aftermarket straps?

I'll check for loose material, but didn't notice any initially.

Thanks!!

 
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Beef
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Always use tubes. nt

April 13 2017, 5:39 PM 


 
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Beef
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I should elaborate.

April 13 2017, 5:41 PM 

The tubes allow the strap to rotate around the screw, friction free. If you don't use tubes it's possible that the strap can catch on the screw and loosen it.

 
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Omega1300
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Thanks! I'd read that before...

April 13 2017, 5:43 PM 

And that's why I was using them. I'll continue to do so - thanks!

 
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DON
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Also. Tubes apply stress along the length of the screw - how to attach straps >>

April 13 2017, 5:53 PM 

Some hand made straps will fatten up around the curved case side making it difficult to fit in like a normal OEM strap.

If thats the case. Mount the strap 90 degrees (hanging down) to the case as the leather on the underside may be thinner

Most makers probably don't have a leather splitter to thin material and have to use what they can to thin the leather (or not)

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Omega1300
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That's basically what was happening I think...

April 13 2017, 6:06 PM 

Where the leather was fattening around the case edge - and that's great advice on the 90 degree trick, that's actually how I got it in place in the end, but I bet it would have been smoother if I'd started out at that angle. Next time I will - thanks!!

 
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Omega1300
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Thanks DON & Beef for the advice and input....

April 13 2017, 7:00 PM 

It's very much appreciated. happy.gif

I'm sure everyone else already knows it, but it's a great bunch of people here. Tip of the cap to you Gentlemen.

 
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panerik
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One more small piece of advice...

April 13 2017, 10:42 PM 

And I agree with all that Don and Beef suggested...spot on...

The only other thing I would add is that innthe beginning, I found strap changes to be easiest in a relaxed environment and without a lot of time pressure...that is, if you are in a rush to get out or do something, that is not a good time to start changing straps as there is a great likelihood of scratches, screws stripping, etc...

And maybe your next PAM will have the easy pin button strap change system!!
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Omega1300
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Definitely good advice Panerik - I'll keep it in mind! :) NT

April 13 2017, 11:17 PM 


 
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LA Crows
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+1 especially if you are changing a Rad! 😳 [nt]

April 14 2017, 4:43 AM 

- Q -

 
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JohnCoburn
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So true!

April 14 2017, 11:19 AM 

Gotta be cool hand Luke!

 
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Jeremy
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I had the same fears

April 13 2017, 11:25 PM 

I thought the same thing because I change straps on a daily basis to go with what I'm wearing, I know girlie, haha.
Anyways I thought just a year of this and it's gotta strip the lugs and then the watch is useless. But I did some research and from what I've read it's much much more likely that the screws will get stripped, not the lugs. A Panerai AD told me this as well.
But on another note I really need to learn patience when changing straps cuz my 2 PAMS have quite a few scratches on the lugs from screwdriver slips. Totally my fault and I know it, but you'll be just fine changing straps.

 
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Omega1300
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Good to hear you haven't had any issues!!

April 14 2017, 1:02 AM 

Sounds like I'll be ok!! I appreciate the long-term test feedback. That's a lot of strap changes!

In regards to slips with the screwdriver, I'm sure they'll happen eventually no matter careful you are - so I'll try not to worry about them when / if they do. happy.gif

 
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Paul
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I always put a little

April 14 2017, 10:29 AM 

bit of scotch tape around the lugs when I change straps on my 112 so if I do slip I don't scratch the case happy.gif

 
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Omega1300
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Also a good idea!! NT

April 14 2017, 2:46 PM 


 
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