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Experiances With Di Stefano Master Diver in Salt Water

April 15 2017 at 2:54 PM

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Looking for something outside rubber.

Pictures: wet or dry

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Ferry
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Simple to maintain

April 15 2017, 4:39 PM 

I am on my way back home from Goa at this moment.

A few weeks ago I asked Simona Di Stefano for advice who to keep my Bruno Allegrini Gamma Diver strap in the best possible condition when I use it for a swim:

After the swim rinse it off with fresh water
Let the strap dry on your wrist or at a non heated place where the leather can dry slowly
When dry, take the strap of the watch and apply a good amount of simple Nivea Cream on the strap on all sides
Let the Nivea Cream soak in the leather overnight
The next day wipe off the residual of the Nivea and you are good to go again.

Not sure if Instagram links work here, here is a clip of the my strap when wet:
https://instagram.com/p/BSsqHW5BYuk/

And after applying Nivea, let it dry and rubbing off the residual:
https://instagram.com/p/BSxwzFths1w/

Here the pics via Photo-bucket:
When wet:
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After drying, Nivea treatment:
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The strap feels as soft as before!

Best regards,
Ferry

Dutchman, Panerista since 2014 and learning
PAM389 and PAM372 and a bunch of straps

www.paneristi.nl

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Mike
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Did you notice any color change ?

April 15 2017, 8:18 PM 

Doesn't seem so from the pics, but I don't want mine to get darker. Just checking. Thanks for the tip.
Mike...NYC. My collection so far is a 312 and some cool straps.

 
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Jeremy
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👍🏼

April 15 2017, 8:23 PM 

Ferry is right on the money . I've done the same thing with my 305 a few years back when I still had it., And shouldn't really be much of a color change if you let it lair dry. The Nivea could probably make it a tiny bit darker but that would only be the first time you did it. I used a different cream similar to Nivea , can't remember the name right now but not much of a color change , like I said maybe slightly darker after the first time but no different than regular wear will do in time

 
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Ferry
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No Color change

April 15 2017, 8:55 PM 

Hi Mike!

No, no color change, to be honest I was a bit afraid for that as the lighter the strap the better it looks
On my 389

The same was done with my Simona all black Diver strap and my wife's Simona Red Diver strap, no change. The only thing that happens is that the strap gets even softer than it already is.
Best regards,
Ferry

Dutchman, Panerista since 2014 and learning
PAM389 and PAM372 and a bunch of straps

www.paneristi.nl

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Noah Davis
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After a while....

April 16 2017, 6:04 AM 

There will be colour change. I've had mine a little longer than Ferry and there is some darkening. I LOVE the way it looks though. As I mention below in my post, I'm slowing it down though.

 
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Simona
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use

April 16 2017, 9:51 AM 

Hello Noah, it is a natural hide and it is strong but is leather so the use will change it slowly in time. When I was working in the boutique a client was bying watches and put exactly with the box in the safe , not for resell just to collect. that watches will never change .. but frankly I prefer to use my watches
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that time In Portofino I had not yest started my straps.. so I was using the OEM velcro.
now as a Gradma a lot of swimming pool and not much diving
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CF
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DiStefano Master Diver....

April 15 2017, 10:44 PM 

For the price and the quality, it's hard to find another strap of equal value around. I have couple of the and I must say, quality, feel and look are fantastic. The craftsmanship that goes in to those is simply amazing!! 😜

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Simply the best of these divers style...
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Sarah
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Seriously gorgeous

April 16 2017, 11:48 AM 

Wow ... I really love this and the buckle ... YUM!

 
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CF
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Thanks, Sarah! >>>>

April 17 2017, 7:20 AM 

It is indeed a "one of kind"!

When I am going back to the motherland, I will make a trip to Simona showroom, for sure!

 
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panerik
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Yes...for the last year, it has been exposed to salt water...

April 16 2017, 5:01 AM 

Here are some pics showing its evolution...my BAD has gotten darker over the last year, but that is because I treat it with a creme and vasoline after wearing it in salt water...I also leave it on my wrist to dry...my BAD is soft as butter...

Here is my BAD a day after getting it...you can see how light it is...

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...after a few weeks...

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...a salt water bath...

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...here is my BAD after a season of swimming and immediately after being rubbed down with vasoline...

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...another shot...

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...and a wrist shot a couple of months ago, looking more worn in and darker (just how I like it)...you can see it's darker then when I first got it...

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Noah Davis
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Wet and Dry Pics

April 16 2017, 6:02 AM 

Okay, so I've used my BAD in the water a bunch. It HAS held up extremely well, and is really a kick ***, bad *** strap.

The first pic was taken pretty shortly after arriving from Firenze.

The second and third pic are what it looks like soaking wet.

The fourth pic is after some adventure.

The fifth pic is soaked through from sweat.

And the last several pics are what it looks like now.

You can see it HAS darkened a little, but I absolutely love where the patina is at now. Every once in a while I treat it with Nivea Soft as per Simona's instructions and it is supple and soft as ever.

I have actually slowed down using it in the water for two reasons.

1. I LOVE where the patina is at, and I don't want it to get too dark too fast.

2. I have two other straps that I prefer in the water. A prototype of the Distefano 1945 strap which has gotten darker, but looks and feels amazing, and more recently the OEM Cashmere Gold strap, which I used for 9 days in Mexico in both salt and pool water. The reason I like these two straps is because they DRY quicker. The BAD is very thick and I find it takes a long time to dry out fully on the wrist. I often use these straps when I'm travelling, or up at a cottage and I want to wear the watch all day without changing straps. The 1945 is thinner and dries out quicker, and the Cashmere gold has some magical ability to not get too soaked through in the first place.

Regardless, the BAD is an amazing strap.

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Vince
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Re: Experiances With Di Stefano Master Diver in Salt Water

April 16 2017, 9:02 AM 

I think he is asking for Master diver, not the Allegrini Bruno diver?

 
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Ferry
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Aren't they made of the same leather?

April 16 2017, 9:20 AM 

Hi Vince,

I believe Mike does have the Bruno Allegrini Gamma Diver strap. But isn't the Master Diver not made of the same Bruno leather?

Best regards,
Ferry

Dutchman, Panerista since 2014 and learning
PAM389 and PAM372 and a bunch of straps

www.paneristi.nl

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Simona
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Just want to explain the difference between MD and BA

April 16 2017, 9:44 AM 

Don't want to promote the straps.
The leather of Master Diver and the Leather of the bruno Allegrini is the same kind of leather , but different colour.
The bruno Allegrini come from the Mustard colour of the classic Bruno, The Master diver come from the tan colour.
Also the process of treating the leather is different.
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Ferry
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Thanks Simona

April 16 2017, 10:02 AM 

But I guess the effect on the two straps is the same when swimming in salt water and treating it with Nivea or other creams?

Best regards,
Ferry

Dutchman, Panerista since 2014 and learning
PAM389 and PAM372 and a bunch of straps

www.paneristi.nl

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Simona
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Yes it is

April 16 2017, 10:56 AM 

but you have to consider that each single hide is different.
The leather tanning process is not so easy because every hide react different especially since a strapmaker as me can't buy 100 hides all together so when we get some new hides they always react a little bit different .
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Vince
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Thanks for the clarification

April 16 2017, 11:18 AM 

That clears my doubt too.
Means to say there is no exact /one answer to TS question as everyone might have different tone regardless of same /different handling of the straps.
That makes them even more interesting doesn't it?

 
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Simona
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In my opinion yes, it makes them more interesting

April 16 2017, 12:39 PM 

and my job more interesting and fun also
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