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Got scammed.

March 17 2012 at 8:12 PM
  (Login cshane)
from IP address 24.62.87.158

This guy sold me a fake buckle, I got it confirmed from an AD. I did some research and he is into replica watches and is selling replica items. I am out $125 and I looked in older posts and he has scammed others, whether they know it or not.

Here is the post

http://www.network54.com/Forum/353393/thread/1331739237/last-1331951988/FS-+OEM+Rubber+%2B+OEM+Polished+Buckle+%2B+GUNNY+CAITLIN+4

shane

 
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(Login Grapesape)
174.235.194.35

Sorry to hear that! Why can't be just make an honest living?

March 17 2012, 8:17 PM 

Just curious, what did he say when you emailed him back? Probably didn't hear back, huh? Loser!

 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

He will not answer back.

March 17 2012, 8:20 PM 

He stated that he took the buckle off his Pam 111M and when I did some searching I found that he is a member of a couple of replica watch forums where he bought a fake PAM 111N and the swapped the caseback to an M serial number. He was even banned from the replica watch forum!

shane

 
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(Login Grapesape)
174.235.194.35

Wouldn't it be nice to have a section that listed banned buyers/sellers?

March 17 2012, 8:33 PM 

I'm sure they would just find another way around to rip people off. FWIW, I thought those buckles looked OK, even considered buying one. Hopefully, what goes around will come back around. Best

 
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(Login bentley54)
24.128.242.8

Re: Got scammed.

March 17 2012, 10:06 PM 

Did he refund you via PayPal already?
If not can't you put in a paypal claim against the purchase to reverse back the charges?

 
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(Login cshane)
166.248.15.106

No refund

March 17 2012, 10:32 PM 

No refund. I unfortunately paid as pp gift. No protection. I wont be doing that again.

shane

 
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(Login gfriedell)
High Heid Yin
75.72.142.107

Too bad, sorry to hear that. Paypal as a gift is a big mistake for both buyer and seller>

March 17 2012, 11:17 PM 


It offers no protection to the buyer and it's scamming Paypal worse yet the seller is making you be a participant in the scam.

If the seller is willing to scam Paypal they might be willing to scam you too?

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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

Agreed

March 17 2012, 11:24 PM 

Big mistake. In this case it really ended up being a gift.

shane

 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

I found out where he buys this garbage.

March 17 2012, 11:36 PM 

He paid $30 for the buckle and rubber strap and has been selling the strap for $90 and buvkles for $125.

shane

 
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(Login jacmerlin)
108.13.36.69

Saw the pic and how it was packaged....??.....??

March 17 2012, 11:59 PM 

Hello,

Most of the OEM products have a box that they come in....... all of the buckles I have ever
received have had Oem panerai boxes with the bar code and part number.

They should never have been sold in a plastic wrapper.


Jonathan

 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

Take off

March 18 2012, 12:02 AM 

Yeah, he told me it was a take off from his Panerai 111M that he did not use.

shane

 
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Jeff
(Login jw72)
68.101.116.240

Lucky

March 18 2012, 12:21 AM 

Be thankful you only bought the buckle. I am sure the crook is trying to sell his fake watch as well.

 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

Lessoned learned

March 18 2012, 12:28 AM 

It was worth $125 to learn this lesson. Too bad we cannot track people like this.

shane

 
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Sandy
(Login Sandyz)
122.173.117.240

Re: Lessoned learned

March 18 2012, 1:09 AM 

He should be banned hope he gets caught somehow

 
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joe
(Login JWH1982)
76.193.169.16

Re: Got scammed.

March 18 2012, 5:06 AM 

Do you still have the package it came in with return shipping address?

 
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(Login em227)
203.144.8.122

... I also questioned the authenticity of similar items I bought recently..

March 18 2012, 5:53 AM 

Different seller however, but the buckle looks to be cut the same as yours.

Here's a link to the thread below. What are your thoughts guys, is my stuff fake as well?

http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/thread/1330690254/Is+this+buckle+and+strap+OEM-+Am+I+just+paranoid-

I'm going to take a trip to me AD with them to see what they say..

Emmanuel

 
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(Login flin0310)
219.84.246.165

Call to Credit Card bank

March 18 2012, 5:53 AM 

I checked his IP address "97.84.35.2" is located in USA...I got scammed a big money before and Paypal also won't refund to me (If your purchase didn't go through ebay Paypal always won't refund for any scam) so I called to Credit Card bank and they asked me return of goods to seller and applied some paper works they requested after their investigation for couple months then they called me not need to pay for the scam.

 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

Can't

March 18 2012, 12:37 PM 

It was an instant transfer from my bank. No CC used.

Shane

 
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(Login calitrev)
71.149.251.6

Hmmm

March 18 2012, 9:13 AM 

I'm new to the game but thought I've done enough research to question the rubber strap. The newer straps have tips that stick out to keep the keeper in place and the older straps don't have that wide of a rubber keeper! I've felt the buckles were fake and the straps without question are bogus! Sorry for your loss!

 
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chad
(Login nafai23)
108.29.25.179

Did you buy it right after he posted it?

March 18 2012, 1:16 PM 

because with in an hour or so people already started questioning it on the sales post.....


 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

Bought as soon as it was posted

March 18 2012, 3:16 PM 

Then when I saw the comments, I emailed him my concerns and this was his reply...

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jim Lee wrote:

NP it's really frustrating cause Panariti does not have a rating system like Ebay.
So idiots can easily taint your reputation and you have to prove yourself over and over again.
Sigh.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Shane wrote:
Thanks, I appreciate it.

Shane

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Jim Lee wrote:

Because It came with the rubber strap when I bought my PAM 111M.

Trust me it's authentic, he's just mad because I said i wouldnt sell it to him because he tried to low ball me $50, then $60, then $70. 
To get him off my back, I said it's sold.

You can check my ebay feedback:*^&^$*&%*^$*&%(**


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Shane wrote:
I saw that some guy was posting a bunch of stuff in your FS ad.    How do you know it is authentic?

 
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(Login Alfasin)
76.27.224.229

How do you tell fakes?

March 18 2012, 4:43 PM 

To the untrained (mine) eyes, I can't see what makes a fake versus real. What are the common marks of a fake?

 
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Jesse
(Login jcstudio1969)
97.91.177.133

Re: How do you tell fakes?

March 18 2012, 8:53 PM 

Yes Shane,

Can you post some pictures of your fake buckle in comparison to real.
I want to see the differences

 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

Differences

March 18 2012, 9:25 PM 

You would not be able to tell from my photos, the replicas are getting that good. My AD got out an OEM buckle and a loupe. There were minor differences in the Panerai engraving, the etching under the buckle, and the screw shape.

I then looked up his email address and found him on a couple of replica forums, one of which he was banned. The detail and amount of replicas out there is scary and disgusting.

Do a search for replica forums and you will find comparison shots with detailed differences.

Shane

 
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(Login kpaxsg)
220.255.2.105

There sould be a refund policy the least...

March 19 2012, 3:32 AM 

...i suppose we saw the last of the seller. If honorable, perhaps he could as least give you the refund should he felt it was a dispute. Not too difficult to track him down.

 
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(Login cshane)
24.62.87.158

Got a Refund

March 19 2012, 4:26 PM 

Can anyone tell me how to edit a post? Time to move on.

 
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