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Ted's head was in a Cryostar freezer-- which was said to be malfunctioning. VIEW THREAD - Lorne on Dec 9, 2005

The TW situation has made hiring professinoals at Alcor more difficult. VIEW THREAD - Lorne on Dec 9, 2005

test VIEW THREAD - test on Mar 15, 2005

ATTACKS- This forum and my integrity continue to be assaulted. VIEW THREAD - . on Mar 5, 2005

The problem is... - Anonymous on Mar 5, 2005

This doesn't look good. - Rick on Mar 8, 2005

UPDATE: I seem to have been emailed some new information. VIEW THREAD - Rick on Mar 2, 2005

THE FROZEN SPLINTER: My new book deal. VIEW THREAD - Rick on Mar 2, 2005

[CASE BY CASE] Let's look at the level of self-motivation in other cases. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Mar 1, 2005

This forum is under attack by a poster using various IP's! VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 28, 2005

A new hero will have to replace the Ted Williams name in cryonics. Who will it be? VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 27, 2005

I nominate... - texas cryo on Feb 27, 2005

You had me for a second. - Rick Potvin on Feb 28, 2005

fried? - Anonymous on Feb 28, 2005

I'm not sure that Armstrong & all deep space astronauts didn't fry themselves out there. - Rick Potvin on Feb 28, 2005

Montville's book "Ted Williams" is subtitled "biography of an American Hero" but VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 26, 2005

Don't blame TW - TWrelated on Feb 27, 2005

I believe he was a war hero, as well-- and a kind man. - Rick Potvin on Feb 27, 2005

Sickening - Anonymous on Feb 27, 2005

Your position is only "half" right. - Rick Potvin on Feb 27, 2005

Yes Rick - Anonymous on Feb 28, 2005

The worst things - Anon2 on Feb 28, 2005

I think you're right however.... - Rick Potvin on Feb 28, 2005

A group? - Anon2 on Feb 28, 2005

Ok I believe you. - Rick Potvin on Feb 28, 2005

Who, when? - TWrelated on Feb 28, 2005

Apparent Extortion - Anon2 on Mar 1, 2005

I believe - TWrelated on Mar 1, 2005

I'd like to know - cryogent on Feb 28, 2005

TW Case file here is 'closed' for now; focus on graph. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

Data for the graph can be submitted to this site. - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

Another crazed waste of time. - Anonymous on Feb 24, 2005

Half-baked is halfway there. - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

Discussion of the merits or problems with the graph discussed in Cryonaut 2005 - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

I don't think Ted Wiliams' situation was an isolated case. - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

ANNOUNCEMENT: Anyone who posts anything suggesting I'm "manic' or something similar will.. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

To Stranger in the Night-- your posts are off-topic. - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

Rick, please get help. - Anonymous on Feb 24, 2005

I haven't started deleting IP's yet, but I'm recording them in a notebook. - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

Write this down in your notebook: - Anonymous on Feb 25, 2005

My favorite line is... - Rick Potvin on Feb 25, 2005

Perfect - Yo Mamma on Feb 26, 2005

Mania VIEW THREAD - Anonymous on Feb 22, 2005

148.244.xxx will be blocked. - Rick on Feb 22, 2005

To TW Talk readers: Note that Anonymous won't refute the "cryo-hero" concept. - Rick Potvin on Feb 22, 2005

Help - Anonymous on Feb 22, 2005

Fool. - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

Cocktail Parties - Anonymous on Feb 23, 2005

So that's how you're gonna be huh? - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

Sorry - Anonymous on Feb 23, 2005

Quantifying x/y is very hard to do. - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

About me - Anonymous on Feb 23, 2005

About your openness-- - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

Yes - Anonymous on Feb 23, 2005

hey, john - Texass Cryo on Feb 23, 2005

Are you published in the latest Alcor membership book? - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

Let's just say... - Anonymous on Feb 24, 2005

Obsess? - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

Symptoms Remarkably Close To Your Behavior - Anonymous on Feb 22, 2005

Blah, blah, blah. - Rick on Feb 23, 2005

photo speaks 1000 words - Anonymous on Feb 22, 2005

A further refinement of the parameters describing a cryonicist. - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

Updated definitions of cryonics hero, cryoneer and pro-choice cryonicist. - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

The lowest x,y-value would represent 'cryo-kidnapped'. - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

A further refinement to the pro-choice/default x-axis. - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

seek counseling - Anonymous on Feb 24, 2005

Seek a new discussion forum. - Rick Potvin on Feb 24, 2005

Does that mean I should stop posting here now? - Anonymous on Feb 25, 2005

Look... - Rick on Feb 25, 2005

Who the f^&^&^& are these people?! - FD on Feb 27, 2005

Probably cryonicists who don't want distinctions drawn between... - Rick Potvin on Feb 27, 2005

PRO-CHOICE cryonics v.s. DEFAULT cryonics VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

"Procryonics" gets Google-ized, linked to Cryonics Cafe for 2/3 hits. - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

Anon3 defines MISSION of cryonics as "rescue everyone", not just "rescue cryonicists& - Rick on Feb 21, 2005

Is cryonics a medical rescue technology? - Rick on Feb 21, 2005

An interesting question is "How many are default, and how many pro-choice?". - Rick on Feb 21, 2005

The can of worms is bigger when you factor in Ted's neurovitrification. - Rick on Feb 21, 2005

Not only - TWrelated on Feb 21, 2005

The legacy of the TW case points to a major split in cryonics. - Rick on Feb 21, 2005

Upcoming episode of BOSTON LEGAL misses the boat. - Rick on Feb 21, 2005

Anon3 70.58 defends default cryonics based on respect for sanctity & value of human life. - Rick on Feb 22, 2005

Rick speaks with forked tongue - Anon2 on Feb 22, 2005

cryonics as a status symbol? - Texass Cryo on Feb 22, 2005

Avi Ben-Abraham - Anon2 on Feb 22, 2005

A status symbol INSTEAD of a "mere technology". - Rick on Feb 22, 2005

I don't think you can say cryonics is "merely technology" - Rick Potvin on Feb 22, 2005

Was TW the very last default cryonics case in Alcor history? - Rick on Feb 22, 2005

my theories on Rick VIEW THREAD - Texass Cryo on Feb 19, 2005

May be something to that, but ... - TW Fan on Feb 19, 2005

TexCryo--! - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

how is it malicious? - texas cryo on Feb 20, 2005

Because it attributes false & lower motives to me. - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

it's not YOUR fault; it's OUR fault - texas cryo on Feb 20, 2005

Wrong. - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

my turn - texas cryo on Feb 20, 2005

Just wait a minute Tex - Anon3 on Feb 20, 2005

Worth repeating. - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

Once again you�re off base - Anon3 on Feb 20, 2005

That's a view of cryonics that is... - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

Rick and Alcor - Anonymous on Feb 20, 2005

the problem is the anti-cryos here - texas cryo on Feb 20, 2005

Anti-cryos - Anon3 on Feb 20, 2005

they stir RICK up - Texass Cryo on Feb 20, 2005

Mischaracterizing - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

Rick is already stirred up - Anon3 on Feb 20, 2005

How can it be that I'm being baited when... - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

Tex, did you ignore my question? - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

what is past is past - Texass Cryo on Feb 20, 2005

Is it? - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

INK ANALYSIS is the next big issue! VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 19, 2005

we'll never know - anon on Feb 22, 2005

You may be right. The question remains, however... - Rick Potvin on Feb 22, 2005

the oil-stained note - anon on Feb 22, 2005

But the basis for Ted's preservation must be... - Rick on Feb 22, 2005

yes, but ... - anon on Feb 23, 2005

Ok - Rick Potvin on Feb 23, 2005

CPLATT posted below, Jan. 30-- relevent to Alcor so.... VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 19, 2005

Look at this! A new HEADLINE!... TWfan invited to this thread. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 19, 2005

Okay wait a minute-- I apologize to TWfan-- he/she is right-- I'm wrong. - Rick Potvin on Feb 19, 2005

FEB 2005 Alcor board meeting & Alcor News-- another round. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 15, 2005

Suspicious? How so? - Texass Cryo on Feb 15, 2005

You're a step ahead of me. - Rick Potvin on Feb 15, 2005

Not suspicious - TWrelated on Feb 15, 2005

I completely agree. THe PR firm sure did its job - texas cryo on Feb 15, 2005

The question is... - Rick Potvin on Feb 15, 2005

My Alcor News arrived on Feb. 9th - Anon3 on Feb 17, 2005

Yes I didnt' get mine. - Rick on Feb 17, 2005

response to Anon3 thread VIEW THREAD - anon on Feb 14, 2005

Why can't other cryonicists think as cogently as this? - Rick Potvin on Feb 14, 2005

I think that updated AGA rules should include this: - Rick Potvin on Feb 14, 2005

consent - Anonymous on Feb 14, 2005

I forgot about that-- you might be right. - Rick Potvin on Feb 14, 2005

Consent form not good nough for me. - Rick Potvin on Feb 15, 2005

Re: response to Anon3 thread - Anon3 on Feb 17, 2005

Williams renegades? - TWrelated on Feb 17, 2005

Just finding the truth? - Anon2 on Feb 17, 2005

Good points Anon2 - Anon3 on Feb 18, 2005

I don't have an answer for you, - TWrelated on Feb 18, 2005

Now that i'm calm - Anon3 on Feb 18, 2005

The paperwork could be doctored and... - Rick Potvin on Feb 18, 2005

Fool - Anon3 on Feb 19, 2005

If that's what you think, then... - Rick Potvin on Feb 19, 2005

Check your facts - Anon3 on Feb 19, 2005

Okay, I did. - Rick on Feb 19, 2005

You got one right - Anon3 on Feb 19, 2005

Look-- this is not about going after Alcor. - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

I realize that - Anon3 on Feb 20, 2005

Alcor is ok, but... - Rick on Feb 20, 2005

NEWS FLASH VIEW THREAD - Anonymous on Feb 12, 2005

platt should just resign - Texass Cryo on Feb 12, 2005

Thanks but that's off topic for this forum. - Rick on Feb 12, 2005

Are you signed up for cryonics, Anonymous? - Rick Potvin on Feb 16, 2005

No, I am not signed up. - Anonymous on Feb 16, 2005

Does Larry have a chance in your legal opinion? - Rick Potvin on Feb 16, 2005

Where can someone write to Larry? - Rick on Feb 17, 2005

Maybe? - Anonymous on Feb 17, 2005

If you can-- - Rick on Feb 18, 2005

email as posted on freeted.com - Anonymous on Feb 18, 2005

Here it is - Anonymous on Feb 18, 2005

What are the LESSONS learned from the TW incident? What will the FALLOUT be? VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 12, 2005

potvin was part of the problem - Texass Cryo on Feb 12, 2005

That can't be because... - Rick on Feb 12, 2005

General issues in cryonics addressed in CRYONAUT 2005. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 12, 2005

INTERESTING DISCOVERY VIEW THREAD - CryoInsider on Feb 10, 2005

He he. Thanks for pointing that out. - Rick on Feb 10, 2005

I bet money... - CryoInsider on Feb 10, 2005

22350 - Cryonet Archivist on Feb 10, 2005

22400 - Cryonet Archivist on Feb 10, 2005

Now, Rick, please tell us when it happens ... - Cryonet Archivist on Feb 10, 2005

The question is-- why are those posts deleted from Cryonet? - Rick Potvin on Feb 11, 2005

I emailed Kbrown asking.... - Rick Potvin on Feb 11, 2005

response? - Anonymous on Feb 14, 2005

This REALLY smells FISHY - CryoInsider on Feb 11, 2005

I would also like to know - CryoInsider on Feb 11, 2005

Nope, I don't have the 29 page Platt Piece. - FD on Feb 11, 2005

Yep, Alcor Mgmt., that I am - ha! - Finance Department on Feb 11, 2005

Re: Yep, Alcor Mgmt., that I am - ha! - CryoInsider on Feb 12, 2005

Actually, no. - FD on Feb 12, 2005

I am going with my gut feeling...eom - CryoInsider on Feb 12, 2005

Platt Petition - CryoInsider on Feb 24, 2005

could you please forward - Anonymous on Feb 24, 2005

Sure - CryoInsider on Feb 24, 2005

Is this also the Cryo Cafe Archivist? - Jonathan Hinek on Feb 11, 2005

Heya Mr. Hinek, what we doin' over here?! - FD on Feb 11, 2005

Rollin' out da Welcome Mat for Mistah Jaffeson! VIEW THREAD - Texass Cryo on Feb 9, 2005

Ah can't wait to read Jaffeson's dissertation on the Indian sloth bear - Texass Cryo on Feb 9, 2005

Association of American Geographers - Texass Cryo on Feb 9, 2005

Huh-- thanks for the backgrounder. - Rick Potvin on Feb 9, 2005

ANON3: Did TW inarguably "choose his own destiny"? VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 9, 2005

No I'm not - Anon3 on Feb 9, 2005

So you agree that TW did not choose his own destiny and yet... - Rick Potvin on Feb 9, 2005

You're talking about two different situations - Anon3 on Feb 10, 2005

I agree that Ted ought to remain frozen however... - Rick Potvin on Feb 10, 2005

To readers: Anon3 may not be responding because he lost this argument round. - Rick on Feb 10, 2005

I�m glad you agree with me . . . - Anon3 on Feb 11, 2005

Good points, Anon3 - Jonathan Hinek on Feb 11, 2005

But I don't. - Rick Potvin on Feb 11, 2005

I guess we do agree about one thing after all . . . - Anon3 on Feb 12, 2005

Except... - Rick Potvin on Feb 12, 2005

Latest initiated threads always at top from now on. FORUM FORMAT. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 9, 2005

Let Me Reply To This Before My New Reply Is Buried 5 Pages Down - TW Fan on Feb 9, 2005

You have a problem with this? - Rick Potvin on Feb 10, 2005

Yes, & I don' wanna do a New Post, sorry... - FD da TWfan & Cryonet Archivist on Feb 17, 2005

Nothing is perfect, but this system is "more" perfect than before. - Rick Potvin on Feb 19, 2005

Welcome mat for JACK POLIDORO: Welcome VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 9, 2005

Rick look alike VIEW THREAD - Anonymous on Feb 8, 2005

hmm. We saw a pic of Rick not too long ago, but... - Texass Cryo on Feb 8, 2005

RELATIONSHIP between TW and AZ REGULATION is centered on Rudy Thomas / Bob Stump VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 8, 2005

Entire Boston RED SOX team signs up for cryonics? VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 6, 2005

Neat Possibilities - CryoInsider on Feb 6, 2005

Too cynical - Anonymous on Feb 6, 2005

Alcor executives host cocktail party at swanky hotel to explain Ted Williams situation!!! - Rick Potvin on Feb 7, 2005

Cocktails - CryoInsider on Feb 7, 2005

Ted Williams preserved head abducted by alien UFO... & reanimated! - Rick Potvin on Feb 8, 2005

new fame forum article about TW VIEW THREAD - Anonymous on Feb 6, 2005

This is significant writing, I think-- who is Richard Jaffeson? - Rick on Feb 6, 2005

Numerous errors and inconsistencies - Anon2 on Feb 7, 2005

You raise good points concerning the content of the writing but... - Rick Potvin on Feb 7, 2005

Right on, my brutha - TWrelated on Feb 7, 2005

I really wonder what's going on with Polidoro right now. - Rick Potvin on Feb 7, 2005

I'm bet jaffeson is right here with us - Texass Cryo on Feb 8, 2005

Calling Richard Jaffeson, do you copy, over? - Rick Potvin on Feb 8, 2005

Jaffeson is not Polidoro - Anon2 on Feb 8, 2005

Somtimes I'm googled out. - Rick Potvin on Feb 8, 2005

Cryonics absolutely TWEAKS the minds of some people - Texass Cryo on Feb 8, 2005

Rick, you seem to be amazed easily . . . - Anon3 on Feb 9, 2005

Are you saying that TW inarguably chose his own destiny? - Rick Potvin on Feb 9, 2005

No, I'm not - Anon3 on Feb 9, 2005

APPEALS PROCESS ABANDONED? VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 5, 2005

Interesting updates... - CryoInsider on Feb 5, 2005

Bad links. - Rick Potvin on Feb 6, 2005

Wrong appeal - Anonymous on Feb 5, 2005

I think so. - Rick Potvin on Feb 6, 2005

Writing Style - Anonymous on Feb 6, 2005

Re: Writing Style - Anonymous on Feb 6, 2005

Isn't "bite me" even a bit outdated? - Rick on Feb 6, 2005

Re: Writing Style - Cindy on Feb 7, 2005

this was something I have already taken up with cindy in an earlier post - Texass Cryo on Feb 7, 2005

Thanks - Cindy on Feb 9, 2005

JACK POLIDORO'S TRIVIA BOOK MIGHT GIVE INSIGHT INTO AUTHOR VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 5, 2005

NEW COCKTAIL, "TED WILLIAMS FREEZE" BEING SERVED UP AT CALICO COW IN PHOENIX VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

You need to seek approval - CryoInsider on Feb 4, 2005

That could be a showstopper but... - Rick Potvin on Feb 5, 2005

I SAW TED WILLIAMS TUNNEL IN BOSTON VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

How much money is the City of Boston paying Estate of Ted Williams for use of the name? - Rick Potvin on Feb 5, 2005

I PAID $5 FOR A PHOTO OF TW AND MICKEY MANTLE WITH OFFICIAL SEAL OF MLB VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 3, 2005

Money goes to Bobby-Jo - CryoInsider on Feb 3, 2005

Seriously though-- doesn't the money go to the trust fund of the Estate which... - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

In that case - TWrelated on Feb 4, 2005

What about Polidoro's use of TW's name & image to sell his Samual, and next book? - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

Don't know - TWrelated on Feb 4, 2005

Here is the webpage that constitutes what I think might be unauthorized use by Polidoro - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

HOW TED WILLIAMS COULD DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN CREMATED. VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 2, 2005

Straight neuro - Anonymous on Feb 3, 2005

Good idea. - Rick on Feb 3, 2005

Answer to how to avoid cryopreservation. - Rick Potvin on Feb 8, 2005

THIS NEW FORUM FORMAT MIGHT BE "IT" VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Feb 1, 2005

Platt? Where? - TW Fan on Feb 1, 2005

Cryonaut 2005 - Rick Potvin on Feb 2, 2005

Charles Platt has.... - Cindy on Feb 2, 2005

Oooooo! - Rick Potvin on Feb 2, 2005

Uh, not at this time - Cindy on Feb 2, 2005

where did platt say he was going to make a major announcement? - Texass Cryo on Feb 2, 2005

I forget-- but that was my take-home message from his post somewhere. - Rick Potvin on Feb 2, 2005

smarter than the average bear, too? - Texass Cryo on Feb 2, 2005

eh boo BOO! - Rick on Feb 2, 2005

Platt, Kent, SA and Perfect Despotism - TW Fan on Feb 2, 2005

Re: Platt, Kent, SA and Perfect Despotism - CryoInsider on Feb 3, 2005

GROOOOOOOOOANNNN - TW Fan on Feb 3, 2005

Shades of Cryocare - TW Fan on Feb 3, 2005

The first question to ask there is "what just happened?" - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

i believe CC folded because Mike Darwin decided to get out of cryonics - Texass Cryo on Feb 4, 2005

The usual internecine crap - Anon2 on Feb 4, 2005

I don't think you're in a position to characterize cryos... - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

Takes one to know one - Anon2 on Feb 4, 2005

Pretty good. - TW Fan on Feb 4, 2005

The Solution? - Anon2 on Feb 7, 2005

What do think happened at sa? - Rick on Feb 4, 2005

I have no idea - Texass Cryo on Feb 4, 2005

TW'S THIRD ANNIVERSARY COMING UP IN JULY VIEW THREAD - Rick on Feb 1, 2005

BETWEEN WALT DISNEY AND TED WILLIAMS, WHO HAS MORE CRYONICS FAME? VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 30, 2005

Isn't Rick Potvin a celebrity, at least among the cryonicis world? - Texass Cryo on Jan 31, 2005

Walt Disney or Ted Williams? - Rick Potvin on Feb 1, 2005

Second answer: I hope to be remembered for... - Rick on Feb 1, 2005

Other famous people - CryoInsider on Feb 1, 2005

FORUM FORMAT & CONTROL VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 30, 2005

new format - Anon3 on Jan 30, 2005

No offense, but... - Rick Potvin on Jan 31, 2005

CHAMPIONS OF CRYONICS VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 30, 2005

FORUM FORMAT & CONTROL VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 30, 2005

Rick thinks he is the only person capable of deciding. - TW Fan on Feb 1, 2005

You're free to do your own forum, right? - Rick on Feb 1, 2005

Of course I could, but ... - TW Fan on Feb 1, 2005

Judgement calls are tough but I decided that one based on... - Rick Potvin on Feb 2, 2005

STATISTICS VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 28, 2005

VISIT TO ALCOR VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 28, 2005

test - Rick Potvin on Jan 30, 2005

who cares? - Anon3 on Jan 30, 2005

Moi. - Rick Potvin on Jan 31, 2005

No indication of the visit-- and January is GONE. - Rick Potvin on Feb 1, 2005

The Peasants Have No Right to Know or Ask - TW Fan on Feb 2, 2005

If it's all the same to you, then explain... - Rick Potvin on Feb 2, 2005

In your case, Rick, - TW Fan on Feb 2, 2005

[POLIDORO] How can we find out what Jack Polidoro is up to? VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 28, 2005

[CRYONICS MAG] Alcor's primary publication, Cryonics magazine, devoid of any TW reference. VIEW THREAD - Rick Potvin on Jan 28, 2005

[TED WILLIAMS REANIMATION FUND] How bout it? VIEW THREAD - Rick on Jan 26, 2005

Personal Reanimation Account would be $100,000 minimum-- very easy for Estate of TW - Rick on Jan 26, 2005

i thought you folded - Anon3 on Jan 27, 2005

It's hard. - Rick on Jan 27, 2005

To facilitate my effort in setting this aside, I'll... - Rick on Jan 27, 2005

Repost the Soleil link, please - Jonathan Hinek on Jan 27, 2005

Is this it? - Jonathan Hinek on Jan 27, 2005

That's it. - Rick on Jan 27, 2005

Is Johnson really a paramedic or a spy? VIEW THREAD - CryoInsider on Jan 26, 2005

Both. - Rick on Jan 26, 2005

But by who? - CryoInsider on Jan 26, 2005

I would hesitate to go further than what I already said. - Rick on Jan 26, 2005

hypothetical scenario - Texass Cryo on Jan 26, 2005

I get it. - Rick Potvin on Jan 26, 2005

All I know is that I am not the first person to suggest this - Texass Cryo on Jan 26, 2005

Paranoid? - CryoInsider on Jan 26, 2005

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