With next weekends games being the last ones reflected for rankings, how do you think they will end up? Does Mizzou jump up over SIUE? Will ISU push out Depaul? Any predictions on the matchups in regionals?

MACHA teams in the hunt:
#6 SIUE Gold (2-0 in current ranking period [20-4 overall], W's over St. Cloud)
#7 Mizzou (1-2 [14-13-1]; L to #4 GVS, and a split with #5 Central Michigan)
#8 Mo State (2-0 [16-10]; W's against Eastern)
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#11 ISU (2-0 [24-2-4]; W's over Marquette)

... updated...#13 Ferris State knocked off #4 GVS and #9 Mankato...

Im thinkin ferris will take number 9 with depaul finishing 10.

ISU should be ahead of SIU-E because they have a better recored. Second best in the country behind Florida Gulf Coast.

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That was one of the most ignorant comments I have read on this site yet. We should finish in 11th, good luck to all of the teams who make regionals.

Top 4 stay the same. Five should SIU-E since they beat MIZZOU twice. Sixth should be Central MI with their split (better goal diff) with MIZZOU. Seven and Eight remain MO and MO St. Nine should be Ferris and 10 Depaul .

My top 13

1)Davenport
2)MSU
3)GVS
4)Michigan
5)Central Michigan
6)SIUE Gold
7)Mizzou
8)Mo State
9)Ferris State
10)Mankato
11)DePaul
12)St. Thomas
13)ISU

Ferris gets the bump up after beating #9 Mankato and #4 GVS.
Mankato drops with the loss to Ferris
DePaul gets 11th because cheaters never win
ISU gets 13th and Respect because they've had a great year

DePaul should drop....they lost 7-2 and tied 4-4 vs Lindenwood this weekend.

i really don't know who is the #10 spot....top 5 stays the same with 6-8 also staying the same SIUE, Mizzou, and Mo St.

Mankato-this team is my biggest problem, they haven't beat anybody hard with exception of Minnesota and I think Kansas who are no good. Plus they have lost to a D3 team twice of St.Olaf???? Definitely shouldn't get the bump over Illinois St.

Depaul-hurt themselves by losing and tying Lindenwood this weekend. If they would have won, definitely would have gotten in.

Lindenwood-must have picked up some players at semester b/c have had much better sucess than 1st semester. Im thinking a little too late though especially with a loss to Texas?????

ISU-obviously a cupcake schedule by playing in the Silver Division. If they would have dominated the silver division and swept all the teams like SIUE in Gold, would definitely get more recognition. Kinda reminds me of the Mizzou team a few years ago when they made the transition from Silver to Gold.

My vote goes to ISU, with just a slight edge over Depaul. It should be interesting to see what they do next year in gold!!!!

ISU had a cake schedule and still did not win the silver. No excuses DePaul over DePaul. ISU is a good team but shot themselves in the foot with their strength of schedule.

DePaul over ISU...my apologies.

no team from the silver division deserves to be in regionals and if one did it would be mckendree over isu. they are the only silver team who had a hard schedule and they dont even deserve to be in the regional playoff.

Lindenwood is a much better team now, but they screwed up by not scheduling SIUE or Mizzou, and play MoSt after the ranking period! They should schedule harder/better.

Actually Bradley had a harder schedule than McKendree. Sorry McKendree fans, you can't lose two games to Bradley and expect any respect with regionals. Talk talk talk, maybe Palmer should have gotten some votes since they won the silver.

By the way guys, it's not a given that ISU will be gold next year. There is a balancing of the number of teams between gold and silver. It would mean that some team(s) would
have to move from Gold to Silver as well. All teams vote at the meeting for ANY moves.

It is going to be very tough to decide where to rank to ISU in the league rankings. The only common opponent was Marquette. Well, everyone beat them. Could be interesting.

mckendree split with bradley they didnt lose both games but nice try. who did bradley play that was hard

Bradley hads a losing record how can someone say that they should make it over any team. just looked at bradley schedule they played the follwing gold teams

Robert Morris --lost both games
SIUE gold-- lost both games
Missouri state--- lost both games

Mckendree played
Robert Morris-- won and lost one
SIUE gold-- lost both
Missouri-- lost one in final minutes of game
Eastern- won both games

so bradley out of six gold games you won how many oh yea thats right zero. As Mckendree played seven gold games and won three. much better then zero. But as i said mckendree still didnt deserve to make it but if a silver team did it would be them

Yes the did split, four games, so Bradley beat McKendree twice. Not sure what schedule you have been looking at.

Bradley should not go to Gold and I was not saying that. But if you want the facts, which you do not have correct by the way, for Gold teams they have played...

Marquette split
SIU-E Gold lost 2
RMC - S lost 2
Missouri State lost 2
Northern Illinois split
still have to play Eastern

Not sure what schedule you looked at. But hey that's ok. There are some wins in their though. Since you were wondering. So yes, tougher schedule than McKendree at this point, with Eastern coming up.

Doesn't matter Bradley is, and should be a Silver team.

Palmer SPANKED McKendree, badly. So they would get my vote over McKendree easily. That was my point, Palmer technically would be highest based on that.

honestly, if palmer's team is ledgit, then they are by far the best silver team we have played. their home and road teams are very different and we did not see them on the road only at home. however, after seeing what we did as Mck, they are silvers best by far and could compete very strongly in the gold if they have the team that we played. we did split two weekends with bradely sowe can not really say much to or about them, same with isu. that means they have nothing to say against us either, the only team with any room to talk would be palmer and what do you know, they are the only team not running their mouths. typical macha

I wasn't running my mouth about Bradley, I could care less. It looks as though they have played too tough of a schedule actually. My whole point in the beginning was that Palmer is the best team. McKendree has never been a problem to play and were a fun weekend. I little bit of talking here and there is not harmful. I am glad that we aren't seeing much of the real b.s. that used to be on this site. These boards let people give their opinion.

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs.

And let's see if we can get a MACHA team or two to nationals.

People keep forgetting that ISU split with McKendree (first weekend for both teams) ISU lost the first game 8-7 with 7 of McKendree's goals on the PP. Next day ISU stayed out of the box and won 7-3. Second game was not even close. Against Bradley ISU went 2-0-1 with the last game ending up completely one sided. And ISU went 1-0-1 with Palmer. It seems to me they just had a hard time focusing on playing the weaker teams and that ultimately cost them the league. Also I haven't seen Palmer at home, I hear they are a much better team there. It just seems to me that ISU is definitely the best team in that league, but we will see in the playoffs, they could lose in the first round.

Hmm, seems to me Palmer is since they finished ahead of ISU. Playoffs will show. Still, ISU is getting my vote to get a shot a gold. They earned it in my eyes. Palmer has a bad history the past few years.

I like how people say this and that about how we hit a post and there was a PP goal and this and that. I think every team had that happen this year. funny.

ISU has a big edge over DePaul, because DePaul cheats. Has everyone forgotten that DePaul was removed from rankings because they cheated? Does anyone think they stopped just because they got caught? They've been caught before and it didn't stop them. This has been the way they have always run the team.

Hats off to ISU for a great year. They're winning season puts them in a better position for recruitment, and therefore the potential for an even better team, next year. They should strongly consider going Gold next year. The league won't stop them from doing that. When was the last time a team wanted to go Gold in the MACHA, and wasn't allowed that move?

Put Lindenwood in the same catagory as Depaul. You never know which team you are playing, D-I or D-II. It all depends on if you are playing them at home, and their D-I team is in town. Best thing about Lindenwood is that they now have a legit coach at D-II, instead of the idiots they've had in the past.

Question is, will he cave to Lindenwoods pressure to win at all costs. Way to many players being lured into that program that will never see a minute of practice ice, much less game time.

But hey, they'll give you $4,000.00 off their $28,000.00 tuition! Anybody that thinks that's a great deal should probably be going to Lindenwood.

Not sure what the comment about DePaul meant. Were they found to be cheating? Was Lindenwood cheating? With LUD2 record this year they must not be too good at cheating. Looks like they lost 6 players at semester and picked up 3. I believe the rule is you are frozen at D1 after 6 or 8 games. So LUD1 cant swing any stud D1 players down after say November. Not sure about tuition, but there are a lot of players going there so tuition must not be 24K. Sounds to me like someone has a personal problem with a Lindenwood coach.

Lindenwoods schedule was kind of strange. They are in the Central Region, but played only #5..tied 2, and #11, split. In the Southeast Region, they lost to #2,5, and #6,and split with #10 and #13. They should have played Mizzou, SIUE, and MoSt. earlier than mid Feb. if they wanted to possibly be ranked. No?

Good luck to all 3....Mizzou, SIUE, and MoSt. At Regionals. I know players on all 3 teams!

Didn't Bradley lose and tie to SIUE Silver?

Exactly why they should be back in silver Kich don't you agree. I think they gave some better games to the Varsity than the JV.

I've known Lindenwood's coach for many years, I've both played hockey with him and been involved as a coach in the club programs (Valley and then Twin Bridges)he was involved in.

Dan inherited some kids that wouldn't buy into his way of coaching so that's why the numbers in the program changed over the year. Coaching a bunch of college kids who go to school and have family and friends in the same town is apparently challenging for many of them. It just took Dan a while to figure out how to deal with that. It's a pretty big step from a high school program to dealing with young men who are now "independant" and have competing interests.

Regarding money I know several kids who are playing on Lindenwood scholarships and they all get a lot more money than $4000. Most kids that I've spoken with get close to 50% of their tuition. I'm sure that kids that don't figure to make an impact or earn a playing position may be offered less maybe that's where the $4000 figure came fron but it's certainly not the norm.

Plus your operating on some really bad information regarding cost, total cost tuition, room and board is $18K not 28K. That fact came from their website.

Although the program does pay their coaches some salary, I can assure you it's not enough money to make Dan change his coaching to pacify anyone's desire to "win at all costs." Dan's got a good fulltime job and an ego that doesn't need the title Lindenwood D2 headcoach to make him happy.

Lindenwood must be doing something right, I've heard there's a good chance they may form a third team next year and I've also heard that they have had some serious talks about buying the Family Arena.

It's know secret that they have done some due diligence into looking into forming a D1 NCAA team, I don't know how serious they are about that but I know it's been looked into.

Anyway, I don't have a dog in this fight, I just know Dan and several kids that go to Lindenwood and though the subject could use a little illumination.


"Put Lindenwood in the same catagory as Depaul. You never know which team you are playing, D-I or D-II. It all depends on if you are playing them at home, and their D-I team is in town. Best thing about Lindenwood is that they now have a legit coach at D-II, instead of the idiots they've had in the past.

Question is, will he cave to Lindenwoods pressure to win at all costs. Way to many players being lured into that program that will never see a minute of practice ice, much less game time.

But hey, they'll give you $4,000.00 off their $28,000.00 tuition! Anybody that thinks that's a great deal should probably be going to Lindenwood."

hey MCK...quit running your mouths over the internet. by the time its all done, our 5 goal victory over you will settle this dispute.

love, ISU

isu...isu...isu...isu...isu...isu...YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

unfortunately, no silver team will make regionals. as a whole, the silver division isnt solid enough top to bottom to get that respect. plus the whole idea of ISU moving up should not be based on the fact of having ONE good season. you should have to prove yourself over the course of a few (maybe 3) that you deserve to be moved up. whos to say they wont have a complete reversal of fortunes next season now that they blew through a unspectacular regular season. there are teams in this league who had to prove themselves over the course of a few seasons (SIUE, MIZZOU, IOWA, EASTERN) just to get considered to gold. so before ISU attempts to jump ship and move to gold, i think this discussion needs to be continued.

I can promise you that keeping ISU in the Silver division would single-handedly destroy any future for that team. Most of the current players are bored and are looking for a challenge week in and week out. These players don't want to pay over $1000 each to kick the crap out of teams. If they do make the jump the team will probably be even stronger next season. ISU is not a small school and the best hockey players going to school at ISU do not even play for the hockey team. If they can get some sort of recognition and move up to Gold there is a chance these kids will play and make the team even more competitive. Based on the results of other teams playing against gold teams I would say ISU could be a middle of the road Gold team, possibly even making the playoffs in their first year, but I do stress the word possibly.

ISU is really starting to bloom. I can see their program being compared to Missouri State in a few years(front office wise if not on the ice aswell). With that new arena and the coaching staff it should not be hard to achieve.

Missouri State has a few things that help them out as well. First of all, campus is walking distance, second of all, they get to play at 7:00. If ISU can get that, and really find a way to get students there, they will be good. It is exciting. They have had some good teams in the past. Illinois residents who want to go to a decent size school once their dream of pro hockey dies in the NAHL can have some fun with it.

hahahahah...comparing isu to missouri state? whoever thought of that has obviously not watched hockey in our league for some time. why don't we compare siue-gold and lincoln land (no offense to lincoln land).

HAHAHAHA

just read the message title....

Don't forget that Missouri State also has great broadcast coverage. (I'm kidding....we're just ok...) And everyone from the GM and coaching staff expects professionalism and run the team that way. That speaks tons towards making a name for yourself. I believe the attitude is that they're trying to take "club" out of Missouri State Hockey when you compare it to Missouri State Mens and Womens Basketball and Football.

(Please don't start another conversation about club hockey...I just mean the word "club" can become a stereotype for some teams, and what's wrong with trying to make fans forget about that while they watch and experience the product that's put on the ice -- and between periods -- and forget that fact for a night?)

I hope other teams strive for the same. There are some good teams out there that could use the fan support.

everyone is running their mouth about ISU. if they want to play hard games schedule hard teams instead of their weak schedule.. what was in one gold team and the was the worst team in gold who would probably be worst team in silver.. all this talking about moving up dont you need to win a championship still. your not that good ISU. you lost to western didnt you??? thats right you did so stop running your mouth step up and play good teams before you want to make that big jump to gold.. Iowa made that jump cause they thought they were good enough that didnt get them anywhere did it??

so just want to say stop running your mouth and win a championship or try to

Missouri State - a legend in their own minds

They are a total of 17 posts and 10 no goals away from being legends this season.


Great work with the broadcasts over at wsr this year....have fun at regionals and hopefully nationals for you guys.

Now THAT's funny!

no its not.