How many players are they losing? How will they be? They had a good two year run. Is it over? I know Donze is good, but what else?

Maybe you should ask who's coming in?

Maybe that would be covered where it says How will they be? Thanks for contributing nothing.

They'll have their goalie coming back too I think, but thats about it. McKendree will be weak next year besides him and Donze. The run is over.

I wouldn't quite bet that the run is over. Maybe but maybe not. 4 of the 6 defense are back as well as all forwards but 4. They will still be very competitive.

They had 2 good defenseman. So which ones are gone?

The two time Silver Def player of the year is back (Donahue), Donze and Coleman are back, Stier is back. If the kids that are supposed to be coming to mck next year really come, I see them repeating once again. A couple jr A players are looking toward mck so that would help out alot. Mck is loosing
F-
Roberts , Dreyer, Crawford, Haefflea, The mayor

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Thompson, Boeschen

Don't matter, RMC-Peoria will win the Silver Division.

they will win they have two of the top two scorers wwith great role players a good d core wit somenew blood back there coming in and great goaltending thats why there gonna win

they would probably win a game if their goalie wasn't a piece of swiss cheese

isnt mckendree like a high school?

If it was it would be a very expensive high school, and by the way,
one with a team that beats most "colleges"

Maybe Mckendree should man up and play all the "Universities" in gold.

mckendree is expensive?

hmmm

have never really heard anything spectacular about it.

other than the fact they have won the jv silver division two years in a row!! WOOO HOO!!! awesome!

Guess you must be in the "big time" Gold division. Still club, still beer league

There seems to be several really good players every year in the silver division. I find it hard to believe there is much of a difference between a gold and silver team. So, why aren't these players able to move up? It sounds like once you play for a gold/silver or varsity/jv team you are stuck. It seems backwards to me. I have watched some of the gold teams play and wonder how some of those players made it.
You would think playing for a jv/silver team would prepare you to play up.

It has happened in the SIUE system:

G Casey Kicielinski (2 years Silver, Won Championship with Gold 05-06)
G Luke Venker (1 year Silver)
G Brandon Becker (1 year Silver)
G David Borre (1 Year Silver (Call-up vs. Purdue))

D/F Nick Wehrle (1 year Silver)
D Jaired Segrest (1/2 year Silver, Won Championship with Gold 05-06)
D Jake Niccum (1/2 year Silver)
D Jon Davis (2 years Silver)

F Matt Steward (1 year Silver)
F Matt Vercilino (1 Year Silver, Won Championship with Gold 05-06)
F Ryan McTigue (1 year Silver)
F Andy Stratton (2 years Silver)
F Alex Edwards (4 games at Silver, currently 2G 4A at Gold)
F Nick Costillo (filled in vs. Mizzou)
F Brandon Janczak (filled in vs. Mizzou)

Thanks for sharing, CKich30. Maybe it is just a relatively small number of colleges that may not move their solid jv/silver players up (McKendree/Mo State possibly, among others). I see player's names listed here at times as well as their team's rosters/point totals. I'll keep this in mind when searching for a college. Thanks again.

If it wasn't for the one and only William Misiak Mckendree would have moved gold. And I'm pretty sure they beat some of the gold team and are very competitive with the rest.

did your high school pay for you to play hockey?

They have 2 goalies coming back. Stier and Moore. I think they have elliot too. then there is donze, coleman, evans, donahues, clark, steiner i think, and i'm sure they have some others. i know they took rolla from us. but again they will take anybody so thanks for taking our goalie. helped us. they will not be as strong as they were and i think we will take them at least 1 of the 2 games.

"the 2 time silver defenseman of the year"....haha WOWWWWWW, seriously? from top to bottom, the difference between gold and silver is huge. the reason MCK doesn't move up to silver is because they would get destroyed. maybe they'd steal a saturday game from eastern or something, but so could the local highschool squad. did anyone watch the championship games last year? silver and gold were played back to back, and there were kids playing in the CHAMPIONSHIP game in the silver division that looked like it was their first time on skates. that's not to say that there aren't a handful of OK players in silver, but let's get real, as bad as club hockey is, silver is nowhere near gold. but if it truly helps your self esteem, keep lying to yourselves, tell us all who the best of the worst is...silver is awesome and MCK is the best!!

Nice smack talk, smooth words. I agree, I mean, look how good teams from our league looked at Nationals last year.

are you always this jealous of mck? honestly the only gold teams to regularly beat mck are siue gold and missouri state a couple yrs ago msu squeaked 2 games out like 2-1 and 3-2 and i dont think theyve played since. mck will stay silver because they have 3,000 kids in the whole school. as much as everyone wants to run their mouth about mck, they have one the greatest setups in the midwest with the closeness of the rink (15 minutes away), free equipment, free ice time/lockerroom, and a sport that is fully recognized by their school. and donahue would be a top defenseman on any gold team and the same with donze as a forward. im not saying they would be the best, but definately up there. in saying that, silver is weaker and they can control games there. good luck msu...keep talking about how your going to beat them. talk is cheap.

Are you talking about the MSU team that lost to the national champions by a goal at the showcase, or their JV team?

the ones who lost to the champs, i dont even know if they had a jv team then.

Yeah... The only time Mckendree played Missouri States Varsity team was in the fall of 2005. They got swept. If I recall they kept it close, but that was 4 years ago and things have changed alot since then.

Is "Coast to Coast" Thompson still playing?

So if Loyola isn't responsible for scheduling their own refs, which their not, then how does McKendree call that a forfeit win? If McKendree doesn't change their website to their true record of 0 - 1 they have lost the little bit of respect I had for them. I bet others agree on this one.

mckendree blows. They got smoked 6-0. loyola was to much to handle. That first line, good god.

Just give the bisket to Thompson

I think McKendree in years past would be competitive in the Gold division. However, after losing some players, they are proving that they belong in the Silver division so far this year. Splits with SIUE, Eastern, RMC-Springfield, and Loyola, they haven't dominated Silver like they used to. With that said, Eastern is a gold team and Springfield was one last year. (But, both of those teams are/were cellar dwellers in Gold)

Also to the poster who says the Gold and Silver divisions aren't comparable, I think you are mistaken. There are 3 'tiers' of players in the MACHA:

1) Gold players; these guys are Gold players through and through. They can skate with the best of them.
2) Silver players; these are the guys who might not have a load of skill, but are still capable of playing hockey, and usually weren't stars on their high-school team (most of them)
3)Border players; guys that would either dominate Silver, or be 3rd-4th line/5-6 defensemen at Gold, but not liabilities.

I believe there are many more Border players in this league then most people tend to believe. The 3rd and 4th lines from most Gold teams are interchangeable with the 1-2 lines of most Silver teams. (MOST cases, there are exceptions)

The talent level at Gold I'm sure SEEMS to be much better then Silver, but I think it has more to do with an all-around better team. In Silver, you have some guys who are down-right horrible, and I think their play makes the rest of the team look bad. Playing in Silver, and having played with numerous Gold players, I can tell you that it isn't a night and day difference between the two when it comes down to individual players. Honestly, if you put an average Gold player and an average Silver player on the same ice, I don't think you would be able to tell who is the Gold player and who is the Silver player in most cases. As a team, most Gold teams can run 4 solid lines, where as some Silver teams might only have 2 possibly 3 (or 1). I think that is where the difference is seen, in a team that has a well-rounded, solid team versus a team with two good lines and two horrible lines.

With that said, there are cases of guys who played Gold for a while and just play a faster paced game. They are used to the faster pace, and can react more easily if they were to play at the Silver level, because it IS a slower game. But once again, I feel this would have more to do with an overall slower-paced game, and not the individual being THAT much better then everyone else.

I'm not saying that there is NO difference in Gold/Silver, but I think the difference is not as drastic as some think it is. They act like all Silver players would be dominated by all Gold players, which is simply not the case.

As far as teams moving guys up/down, I think it would be really unfair and foolish if coaches/management didn't look to their Silver teams to improve their Gold team. A guy might have just been overlooked or had a bad try-out. It happens. To stick him on Silver and call it a day is just foolish.

Also, Kich, you can add Edwards as another Silver call-up for SIUE. (He played 6 games with Silver before being called up to Gold)

Finally a productive post...

The Gold/Silver Player debate is a good one, and is one that we see at SIUE this season. It's a good problem for us to have, as going into this season, we only had 3 players leave the Gold team, and had about 15 players overall join the club this year.

Only 8 games into the year we have had 4 players who started off on the Silver Roster make it into a Gold game (Goaltender David Borre, Forwards Alex Edwards, Brandon Janczak, and Nick Costillo), either to fill in because of injury or because they deserved a shot. Edwards has capitalized on his opportunity, as he has 6 pts (2 G, 4 A) in 4 games, and will probably finish his first year at Gold.

With the amount of talent currently playing on our Silver team, and the addition of John Wright on D coming 2nd semester, it creates a bit of competition with our 3-4 lines at Gold and our defensive core.
Because of this group of Silver players are capable of taking those spots for the first time in a long time.

This is the first year that I can say that we have had 2 solid teams capable of going a long way this season.

who cares d2 club is a joke! It is a let down to junior a program if one of our guys plays d2 club. stop saying these kids are good. golds best players are ok at best, most of them wouldnt be even close to make a tier 2 junior team.....so stop whining about garbage d2 hockey because it is a gongshow!

They go play NCAA D3....bigger joke because it takes more of your time and still means nothing in the scheme of things. Besides you, mommy, daddy, grandparents, and maybe your former coach no one cares if you play NCAA d3 or acha. Really.....no one cares. So stop compensating for your inferiority complex by bragging about D3.

I just got called up to the show. Been playin club for 4 years.

some d3 schools could beat d1 ncaa schools you moron. d3 hockey is very good look at the rosters, there s no high school all stars like you ya clown, there is legit junior a players. Plus if you know anything about a d3 program, they prepare you for pro hockey. acha is just for fun, no pro development i can tell you are a bad hockey player, and i dont play d3 meathead, junior a

I would agree that D2 Club hockey isn't probably the best hockey around, like whoever else stated above. I think it is important to remember that most, well at least some of the top priorities of some of the players is academic. I like this quote:

"It is a let down to junior a program if one of our guys plays d2 club."

It is a let down to go to college? To pursue a career? Sorry to burst your bubble, but no one here is going to the NHL or make a sensible career from playing hockey. There is such a large margin. I guess what I am trying to say is that I think it is ridiculous to criticize the level of play that is in each one of the tiers of hockey. Kind of goes along the logic that no matter how much money you make, there is always going to be someone around the corner, making just a little more. So don't be so quick to call a league "a joke" when someone else could easily call your league "a gongshow."

I play D2 Club hockey and I am fine with it. It is at Mckendree too. Just to throw that out there because apparently everyone hates us . It is fun to play hockey while I finish school. Could have I played a higher level? Maybe. Who knows? Be happy with what you play, where you play, because when people have to put down other leagues, it only seems like they are the one uncomfortable with what and where they play.

You were dead on Steir. Someone should lock this thread because it is going nowhere fast.