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Gold Playoff Tie Breaker??

January 27 2010 at 4:30 PM
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Does anyone know what the tie breaker is for deciding what seed a team is going into playoffs?? As of right now it looks very possible that there is going to be a couple ties at the end of the Gold division regular season.. I wouldn't be suprised if at the end of the regular season there is a four way tie that would look something like this...

(THIS IS ALL STRICTLY HYPATHETICAL!)

-ISU Redbirds: 12-4-0 = 24 pts
-MSU Maroon: 12-4-0 = 24 pts
-Iowa Gold: 12-4-0-0 = 24 pts
-SIUE Gold: 11-3-1-1 = 24 pts

If this was the case what would be the deciding factor? Head to head play.. even though majority of these teams split with each other.. would this work?? Obviously this is a hypathetical situation, but if it does play out like this or similar to this what is the tie breaker??

 
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Tie Breaker

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January 27 2010, 7:30 PM 

If the standings ended this way it would be
1 - ISU
2- IOWA
3 - MSU
4 SIUE

ISU win tie break with Iowa based on either more goals or bigger goal differential in games played
Iowa wins tie breaker with MSU Iowa Swept season series
SIUE Only has 11 wins

 
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January 28 2010, 12:17 PM 

And if no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.

 
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February 3 2010, 8:24 AM 

Based on the Tie-breakers listed on the MACHA website How would this scenario break out???
CKich30 Please clarify.

MSU 12-4
ISU 12-4
Iowa 12-4

#1 Breaker Wins
Iowa sweeps MSU - Iowa
Iowa ISU Split - Go to #2 Breaker
MSU ISU Split - Go to #2 Breaker

#2 Breaker Goal Differential (Head to Head)

MSU over ISU +3 8-4 / 3-4 MSU
ISU over Iowa +3 8-3 / 1-3 ISU

??????
Based on the tie-breakers if all teams tie at 12-4. Then
Iowa #1
MSU #2
ISU #3
??????????

OR

because ISU wins the goal differential over Iowa do they gain the #2 seed.

OR

does the fact that Iowa wins the WINS tie-breaker over MSU and then the #2 tie-breaker does not come into affect

??????

Thanks!

 
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February 3 2010, 2:30 PM 

This would be solved after the using the head to head tiebreaker, and totaling how each team did against each other, as each team played each other twice for a total of 4 games.

Iowa 3-1 (Sweeping Mo State, splitting with ISU)
ISU 2-2 (Split w/ each)
Mo State 1-3 ( Swept by Iowa, split with ISU)

Thats how it'd end up





 
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February 3 2010, 7:49 PM 

So on the website it is incorrect that MSU can finish no lower than 2nd. They can finish 3rd in this scenario.

 
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February 3 2010, 9:13 PM 

Looks like it...my mistake

 
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February 3 2010, 11:39 PM 

Missouri State can finish no lower than 2nd. If Iowa was to finish 1st then second place between ISU and MSU based on the tie breakers (head to head) would be a tie and the second tie breaker (goals) would go to MSU. 

 
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February 4 2010, 12:15 AM 

If Iowa takes first place outright with 25 or 26 pts, yes. If all three teams are tied, then Mo State would be 3rd.

In the 3 team tiebreaker, you combine your head to head records against other tied teams. In that scenario, Iowa, Mo State and ISU are the only teams that matter.

Should the tiebreaker be only between Mo State and ISU, Mo State takes 2nd.

 
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February 4 2010, 12:44 AM 

Sounds like a glitch in the system. A team can own all tie breakers between them and another team, but if you combine a 3 or 4 way tie with the same teams, said team can lose a spot. Seems that once you decide a first place team (moving on through the places) the tie breaker should revert back to tie breakers between the remaining teams, as you are no longer involving a tied team that has moved out of the equasion.

 
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February 4 2010, 1:03 AM 

On the flip side, ISU is rewarded for the win vs. Iowa, where Mo State gets penalized for being swept.

Multi-team ties are rare and weird to begin with haha...but thats how the cookie crumbles I guess.

None of this may matter should Iowa Win out, so who knows.

 
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February 4 2010, 1:17 AM 

Yea, but I can see a very likely situation of Iowa going 3-1 with a split against Mizzou. Hence a 4 way tie.  My problem is with tie breakers, as set forth between two teams (wins, head to head, goal differential), going out the window and a completely different way to determine a seeded team.  It's like playing to a tie and because no one can win in a shoot out and going to a coin flip to decide the winner..... despite the fact that you could play sudden death overtime.    

 
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February 4 2010, 1:26 AM 

i hope iowa loses one or two games out of the four. they may have talent, but it is the biggest group of *******s to play against ive ever seen. part of me hopes they make regionals just so they get **** on by a high seed.

 
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February 4 2010, 12:13 PM 

we would like to be referred to as dirtshow over ****shows, thanks
-iowa
ps- which scrub on which bender squad are u

 
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