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July 6 2009 at 5:33 AM
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I can't believe that you idiots have allowed yourselves to be brainwashed by Robert Wagner for the past thirty years!!! I applaud Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli, for having the courage to write this book. Dennis Davern would never lie, or stretch the truth to promote his book! Only Robert Wagner would do something that insidious!

When this book is released, all of you who have dared to doubt the word of two fine, upstanding citizens like Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli will be sorry! While it may be true that Dennis Davern lied to the police and said that nobody heard or saw Natalie go overboard, you have to realize that he was saying those things because Robert Wagner commanded him too, and of course, because Dennis Davern was an employee of Robert Wagner, he had to lie, or Wagner might have fired him.

Robert Wagner has always been evil, he was plotting Natalie's murder on their first date! If you morons weren't so brainwashed by "Prince Valiant" you would be able to see that for yourselves.

Dennis and Marti: I thank you for telling the truth about this matter. People always accused me of being paranoid, and of allowing my personal dislike of Robert Wagner to interfere with my better judgement, but now that you have written your book (which I am sure will soar to the top of all the best seller lists), I can have the last laugh at all those people who mocked me!


 
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July 6 2009, 6:51 AM 

Calm down. Don't let the RJ lovers get to you. Relax! Wagner is probably crapping in his drawers over this book coming out. He is probably trying to figure out a way to buy himself out of this one too.
Just remember, we will have the last laugh when he is revealed for the hateful drunk we know him to be.

 
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July 6 2009, 10:25 AM 

Robert Wagner is now, and has always been, a hateful drunk! He's a murderer! Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli say so, and they wouldn't lie to us!

I've heard about an excerpt from this new book where Davern says that "Prince Valiant" was on deck arguing with Natalie, while she was in the water. "Jonathan Hart" went back into the cabin, and Dennis Davern was left out on deck all by himself to watch Natalie drift out into the water. He would have jumped in to save her, but then "Alexander Mundy" might have fired him in a moment of rage, and Dennis could not afford to lose his job.


 
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July 6 2009, 10:39 AM 

I'm just glad that Dennis and Marti are finally giving us some expert analysis of Natalie's death, otherwise, we would have to rely on that hack, Thomas Noguchi and all of that forensic hocus pocus he keeps spewing whenever he discusses Natalie's case. These Wagner lovers have bought into Noguchi's theory of what happened for so long, that they are actually convinced that "Chad Bixby" did nothing wrong, and that Natalie's death was just a "tragic accident".

Dennis and Marti: I just wish that I could have five minutes alone with both of you so that I could give you exactly what you deserve, a hearty handshake and a pat on the back, on behalf of all of us here, at the Morbidly Hollywood Death Forum!!!!!

 
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I think you are a liar.

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July 6 2009, 10:48 AM 

I think you are a liar just trying to stir things up. Tell us EXACTLY where you have read an exerpt from this book?
Be ready to back it up. I want the exact page the exerpt is on and exactly where you read it.
Considering the book is in production right now you better come up with something more than the lie of Davern and Rulli calling Robert Wagner a "murderer" in any sentence of any chapter on any page of this book.

 
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July 6 2009, 10:53 AM 

Hi Eddie. I am more than happy to provide the link for you,http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/entertainment/2001/06/25/2001-06-25_natalie_-_when__all_sound_st.html

Just scroll down to where it says "Captain's Account".

Don't worry, you don't have to apologize for calling me a liar!

 
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July 6 2009, 11:50 AM 

That excerpt (link) is from Finstad's book. Finstad never interviewed Davern. I think you better wait until this new book comes out before you start "quoting" from it. Not that I don't agree with most of your input, but be careful providing excerpts from one book to another. Your're not a liar, but you are confused.

 
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July 6 2009, 11:55 AM 

the above link was take from an article that was written at the time of the release of the book "Natasha". It discusses what Dennis allegedly told Lana. None of what was written in that book came directly from Dennis. It was the captains account according to Lana and Finstad. LOL. This is old news.

 
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THAT IS NOT AN EXERPT...!

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July 6 2009, 11:59 AM 

THAT IS NOT AN EXERPT FROM GOODBYE NATALIE GOODBYE SPLENDOUR by Marti Rulli and Dennis Davern! That is an exerpt from the Suzannne Finstad Biography NATASHA!
Whoever you are I will bury you in verbatim knowledge of EVERY book written about Natalie Wood and that INCLUDES Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendour but if you think I will give you off hand information concerning what is between the pages of this book, please do not insult my intelligence and I will not insult yours.
Care to try again?

 
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This is a complete fabrication!

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July 6 2009, 12:23 PM 

Your post is a complete fabrication. Not a single word of what you have posted is in Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendour! If you have heard that there is such an exerpt in the book as you have addressed here; whoever told you this is A LIAR! End of story!
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Robert Wagner is now, and has always been, a hateful drunk! He's a murderer! Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli say so, and they wouldn't lie to us!

I've heard about an excerpt from this new book where Davern says that "Prince Valiant" was on deck arguing with Natalie, while she was in the water. "Jonathan Hart" went back into the cabin, and Dennis Davern was left out on deck all by himself to watch Natalie drift out into the water. He would have jumped in to save her, but then "Alexander Mundy" might have fired him in a moment of rage, and Dennis could not afford to lose his job.





 
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"wagners lawyer" strikes again

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July 6 2009, 2:08 PM 

Only this dumb ass would post a twenty something year old article as an answer to a statement made here. This dumb ass is the same dumb ass who posed as the "wagners lawyer", who threatened us with a "lawsuite", asking us to "seise and desist" and then threatened us with an "edictment" Need I say more?

 
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Exerpt? LOL

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July 6 2009, 3:16 PM 

LOL I got so pissed at that fool for fabricating a story about Rulli and Davern that I started to misspell words like all the other morons on here!
Exerpt? What the hell was that? LOL EXCERPT!
Ah, if only I was the WAGNERS lawyer spelling wouldn't matter!

 
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July 6 2009, 7:41 PM 

So you're saying that Dennis valued his job more than the life of a fellow human being?

Boy, how courageous.

 
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July 6 2009, 7:56 PM 

I will not tolerate you people fabricating stories about Dennis and Marti!! Eduodardo, I know that you are the one who has been on these message boards posing as "Prince Valiant's lawyer", and threatening all of Dennis and Marti's friends with lawsuits, so you can just drop this little charade!

The fact is that Dennis Davern was brave enough to give an interview in which he stated the things that I mentioned, and that kind of bravery deserves our respect. Whether or not that interview is "20 years old" as one of you stated, is entirely irrelevant.

Of course, Dennis did not value his job over the life of another human being, but at that time, he was at a place where he really needed his job, and he couldn't afford to be picking fights with his employer.

 
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July 6 2009, 8:57 PM 

After Dennis and Marti's book comes out, and the police show up at the home of "Bud Corliss" to charge him with the murder of Natalie Wood, and after he is tried and convicted, and after he is sentenced to die by lethal injection, and the day comes when he runs out of appeals, and is taken to the execution chamber, the last things he will see on this Earth will be the laughing faces of Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli!!

Some of those Wagner-worshippers might feel bad for "Pete Ryan's" children, and his grandson, what these people fail to realize, however, is that Dennis and Marti wrote this book to give "George Lytton's" children and grandchildren some peace of mind.

If you people would just ignore everything else that has ever been written about this case, and if you would just ignore the evidence, and concentrate all of your attention on what Dennis and Marti are saying, then you would see that Dennis and Marti are telling the truth! They were eyewitnesses!

 
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July 6 2009, 9:27 PM 

You've put all of your faith in two people who are in it for the money. Take some advice - you're setting yourself up for a horrible fall.

Besides, Rulli was NOT an eye witness.

 
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July 6 2009, 9:45 PM 

Davern was there and if money was all he wanted this book would have already been written in a very quick way minus the years of investigation, he would consented to all the interviews he was asked for and he would have told them exactly what they wanted to hear. He was huge amounts of money say what the reporters wanted to hear. He refused.

 
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July 6 2009, 9:58 PM 

Oh yeah, I'm sure his motives are completely altruistic. (look it up...)

 
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July 6 2009, 10:13 PM 

I'm not "wagners lawyer", I know what the word means. It's a fact that he refused to tell one reporter a lie. He was offered a pretty penny for that lie.
After reading Wagner's book I noticed that he kissed and told quite a bit. Was that an example of his altruism? And some of the women he kissed are dead, not here to tell us their side. So for all we know, Prince Wagner could be lying. Of course he did not do that for the money.

 
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July 6 2009, 10:14 PM 

Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli don't give a damn about money! I'm sure that they will donate 100% of the proceeds from the sale of this book to charity. That's just the kind of people that they are. You don't have to take my word for it, you can ask them yourselves!

 
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July 6 2009, 11:11 PM 

In the Vanity Fair article, Dennis clearly states that he wanted to look for Natalie. He first had to turn on a light and get on the radio to do that. Wagner would not allow him. Wagner tricked him. What could he do? Nothing. His BOSS wouldn't allow him. He clearly states that he thought Natalie might be okay, as Wagner convinced him.
As for Rulli being paid for authoring a book...what is wrong with that? Every author should be compensated for their work. If she did a good job, all the more so. If she didn't, it will be clear that she doesn't deserve it. As for Davern making money from his story, he could've made all the money he ever wanted, but he didn't. It clearly states in the Vanity Fair article that he was NOT paid for his participation. He was NOT paid for all the TV interviews he did, either. TV does not pay for interviews. You people better do some soul searching. You are accusing two innocent people to being of shady character, and you are using their names IN WRITING. I do believe that's called LIBEL. If I were Rulli, I'd get on this board and DEMAND to know the source of these accusations, and I would seek immediate legal action. But, instead, what we have going on includes two illiterate idiots claiming to be the WAGNERS attornies here.
I will read Rulli and Davern's book before I judge, and if it comes through, I hope they make everything they deserve from it...including lots of money. What they do with that money is nobody's business but their own. Wagner wrote a book and profited, too. Davern is just as equal in that respect. Everyone has a right to tell their own story. If your don't like someone's story, don't buy their book or listen to them. I didn't buy Wagner's book. I will buy Davern's. I did read Wagner's book, but I would never have purchased it. I look forward to Davern's story. His life and words are no less important than anyone involved in that whole scenario.

 
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July 7 2009, 12:00 AM 

Right! Dennis Davern would never lie about this case, it's just not in his nature to lie. If Dennis tells me that "Prince Valiant" ordered him not to look for Natalie, then I believe him. "Bud Corliss" is a sinister man, and if Dennis had disobeyed his orders, then I'm sure that he would have been fired right there on the spot!

 
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July 7 2009, 2:09 AM 

I don't think Davern obeyed Wagner because he was afraid of being fired. I think that was the least thing on his mind. I think he obeyed him because he was in shock and didn't know what to do. Davern didn't know where Natalie was or what had happened to her. Wagner did. Dennis waited it out, and the end result was tragic. That's probably where his regrets stem from. He probably went along with Wagner's choices because he was too confused and stunned to think about what else to do. That's what I think and believe. I don't think Davern is a liar. If he lied that night, obviously he wants to right his wrong. Wagner keeps lying. There's your difference. Was I there? No. But Davern was. No one else is ever gonna talk about it. I think we owe this man his chance to tell his side without jumping all over him.

 
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July 7 2009, 3:17 AM 

Those were some beautiful words, very touching. Nobody else on these boards can even begin to imagine the pain and the suffering that Dennis Davern has experienced for the past 28 years. Why are all these people jumping on him, and accusing him of having ulterior motives?! Where the hell were they when Natalie was fighting for her life?! I'll tell you where they were, they were sitting on their couch in the trailer park, watching Hart to Hart, and masturbating all over their autographed picture of Robert Wagner!! That's where they were!!

People have even gone so far as to accuse Davern of telling the police the true version of events, that nobody saw or heard Natalie go overboard, and then saying something completely different after the fact, so that he couldn't be arrested for obstruction of justice, since he had actually told the truth when the police interviewed him.

As far as I'm concerned, the people who accuse Davern of doing something this terrible are the real criminals! Robert Wagner is a powerful man, he is a cold, calculating, machine. He has no feelings of remorse or regret for what he did to Natalie. This book will not bring Natalie back to life, but it will cause a great deal of pain to Robert Wagner and his children, who never really loved Natalie in the first place. The kids were just so much in love with Robert Wagner, that they would believe whatever bullsh!t he told them! Robert Wagner and those kids were crying fake tears at Natalie's funeral, "Prince Valiant" no doubt coached them on how to do it. I hope that when the police arrest "Number 2", that they also arrest Natasha, Courtney, Katie, and Katie's son, Riley, as accessories! That's what they deserve.

The only person on Earth who truly loved Natalie, was Dennis Davern.

 
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July 7 2009, 4:51 PM 

This post is sick. Natalie's children didn't love her? They faked their tears. Good God. I pray for people like you.

 
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July 8 2009, 7:14 AM 

OP writes> Robert Wagner and those kids were crying fake tears at Natalie's funeral, "Prince Valiant" no doubt coached them on how to do it. I hope that when the police arrest "Number 2", that they also arrest Natasha, Courtney, Katie, and Katie's son, Riley, as accessories! That's what they deserve.

ROFL Oh yeah, lets go an arrest a kid who was born 25 years after the fact! You must be Wagers lawyer. Only that idiot would make these type of statements.
Just so you know Katie and Courtney are not actresses. Never were so it would have been just a little hard to get them to cry on cue when they were kids. As for Natasha, she isn't that good an actress at 38 what makes you think she was a second Judy Garland when she was 11? As for your "Prince Valiant" that guy is the worst ****ing actor in Hollywood history. He couldn't coach a turd out of his own butt. How could he coach three kids? Cry on cue. LOL What a jack off you are.

 
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July 7 2009, 8:22 AM 

and Wagner donated all his profits from his book to charity? He put Natalie front and center because he knew she would sell the book because his life apart from her was a yawn. But where was she in the dedication? She was good enough to USE to sell the book but she got shafted by him when it came time for the dedication.
NEWSFLASH-Everyone who writes a book does it with money as a consideration, even ROBERT WAGNER! But Wagner's fans are so ripped over this book that they are labeling Davern-Rulli as money hungry because they don't want to face the fact that their charm bog may be less of the man than they think he is. Don't buy the book, don't look at the pictures. without Wagner's worshipers, the book will do just fine, I'm sure.

 
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July 7 2009, 4:48 PM 

Charity!?? Don't make me laugh. $$$$ is all they see.

 
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July 7 2009, 5:26 AM 

First up: Spell my name right or don't bother addressing me.
Second: If you think I would ever, no matter how remotely come to the defense of Robert Wagner you are a bigger imbecile than I initially gave you credit for.
Third: I place my bet on Marti Rulli and Dennis Davern to tell us the real facts in the book.
Fourth: Referring to Robert Wagner in his screen roles as you do only shows that you are still locked in the fantasy world of the Silver Screen. "Prince Valiant" and "Bud Corliss" were not on the Splendour anymore than "Wilma (Deanie)Dean Loomis or "Karen Brace" or "Duane Hall" or "Michael Brace" . It was Robert Wagner, Natalie Wood, Christopher Walken along with Dennis Davern who were on the Splendour. Real people, not celluloid personas.

 
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July 7 2009, 12:42 PM 

Don't tell me what to do Eddie! I'll spell your name anyway which way I want to! I've got first amendment rights, and I will use them regardless of whether or not you are offended.

We were all angry when "Prince Valiant" refused to do the right thing in his book, and confess to his crime! We were all angry when he refused to tell us what we already knew beyond the shadow of a doubt, that is that he is an arrogant bastard, who never loved Natalie, and was responsible for her death. The fact that he continues to lie right to our faces, and tell us that he did love Natalie, and that he was not responsible for her death, is an insult to our intelligence, because we know better!! We possess the ability to look at "Mr. Wilson", and see that he is not a good man, that he is a liar, and just an all around bad person.

It takes people like Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli to tell the truth. We need them to confirm and to validate our hatred and distrust of Robert Wagner, and tell us that we have been right all along! And if they're willing to do that, then I'm willing to buy their book.

 
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July 7 2009, 1:29 PM 

LOL Fine, spell my name any way you want to and I'll spell yours anyway I want but I don't think they will allow Dumb Mother F***er to be used on this board without it getting censored so I will just refer to you as jerk and that has nothing to do with First Amendment Rights ye' old Thomas Jefferson.
You are actually preaching to the choir with 95% of everything you previously posted but there is nothing in the manuscript that states either Marti Rulli or Dennis Davern ever called Robert Wagner "a murderer".

 
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July 7 2009, 2:16 PM 

You know, people have told me that Dennis and Marti are lying, and I say to them "I don't care". I'm going to buy their book regardless of anything else. I couldn't care less whether or not they were telling the truth, or exaggerating, or had less-than-accurate recollections of what was said and done thirty years after the incident. "Pete Ryan" is going to get what's coming to him, finally, after all these years. "Dan Bigelow" has eluded justice for thirty years, and Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli are mad as Hell, and they're not going to take it anymore!!!!!!

 
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July 7 2009, 5:16 PM 

Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli are mad as Hell, and they're not going to take it anymore!!!!!!< No, that was Peter Finch portraying the character of Howard Beale in the film "Network". <br> ROFL

 
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July 7 2009, 6:02 PM 

For somebody that hates Robert Wagner you certainly know every character he has played. I guess maybe you really love him but try to fake out that you hate him juast to get information for your blog.

 
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July 7 2009, 6:12 PM 

Yeah, that's it. LOL. Stupid fool. Wagner has the dumbest fans.

 
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July 7 2009, 6:23 PM 

I demand to know where it is that says Robert Wagner is a murderer.
I won't let this go. I am going to put a gag order on this site!

 
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July 7 2009, 6:56 PM 

what a stupid fool! "I am going to put a gag order on this site!" You can't "put a gag order". Only a judge can invoke a gag order and it won't be done because you want it to be done. We have this thing called the constitution.
Wagner has a sharp legal team! We are shaking in our boots!

 
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July 7 2009, 6:36 PM 

Well this thread at this forum sure turned foolish. I read Rulli's blog daily. She doesn't say too much but I'm getting a good sense of what kind of person she is. Only a few posts here seem to be capturing her purpose or reason. I don't think anyone would stick with a project for over 20 years if something deeper isn't driving the project(her book was announced in a Star article in 1985, so I'd hardly call that feeding off Wagner's book!). It's probably a yen for justice like most dedicated detectives possess. Note I said "most." I don't see how the Wood detectives can sleep at night over that beautiful woman's death and lack of proper investigation into it. Oh well, to each his own, but I praise Rulli. Davern has seemed a bit see-sawish through the years, but my money's on Rulli! I'm the one who posted here over a month ago who bought 13 of her books....it's up to 16 now! Every one of my aunts and uncles adored Natalie. I'll spread the word on this book to anyone who will listen, as I look forward to it more than I can express. I'm expecting truth, and I believe we'll get it this time.

 
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July 7 2009, 7:25 PM 

Haven't any of you ever heard of the IMDB? You can find a list of all of "Prince Valiant's" film credits.

 
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July 7 2009, 11:16 PM 

Most people don't have the ability to see past celebrity. Their infatuations keep them in a fantasy world. It's too difficult for them to see past the characters these real people play, to see past the pretty faces of celebrity. An example was Michael Jackson's stadium wake today where people won tickets to be there. The man was so vastly talented that those court proceedings linking him to molesting young children almost seem nonexistent. Of course, MJ was found not guilty. But he was arrested twice on two separate occasions for the same offense. It makes one wonder. Many celebs have lots of money to spend on settlements and defense lawyers who know how to get the job done. MJ was a superb talent, but the man clearly was a heavy drug abuser, and was twice called out to defend child molestation. Those wonderful things said about his talent are true. That he was an odd human being is ALSO true. People must learn to separate fantasy characters, stage characters, and movie or TV parts from the real person behind the act. No degree of talent, IMO, should superceed criminal acts or be above the law. It's not ok to think the Thriller character couldn't have committed child abuse, it's not ok to think football field heroics overpower OJ Simpson's double-slayings, it's not ok to think that Baretta couldn't shoot someone in real life, it's not ok to think that Jonathan Hart couldn't be cruel to a real-life wife because he cuddled Jennifer Hart, a fictional character, every episode. It's just not ok, people. If you were in the real life scenarios of any of these celebs mentioned, you would be in jail. Is that fair?

 
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July 7 2009, 11:29 PM 

Of course it's not OK. But none of what you've written means, in itself, that any of those people did what you're accusing them of. Some might have, others might have not. Just because they're a celebrity doesn't mean they're innocent, but nor does it mean they're guilty either.

Each case is separate from the others, so don't group them all together.

There is ZERO evidence against Wagner and you know it, other than the hopes and dreams of the demented people on this site. All they can say is 1) that she had some bruises on her body (which were consistent with her struggles in the water) and 2) he didn't call the coast guard as soon as she was discovered to be missing (however, he did NOT wait to call for help).

Anyone can look at the events of that night in hindsight and second guess what the men on the boat did or didn't do. But they didn't have the luxury - as it was happening - to know how it would end. Natalie was missing and so was the dinghy. Any reasonable person would think she took it to shore, as unlikely behavior as that was. It wasn't until time passed and a check of the places on shore she might have gone were negative that they realized something else might have happened.

But people will continue to hang Wagner no matter that there is not ONE SHRED of evidence against him. And Davern's book won't change that.

 
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July 8 2009, 12:19 AM 

Oh, the evidence goes much further than your little basic defenses. You have no clue what you are talking about. There's more evidence already available on Wagner than there was on Blake and Blake was tried. Natalie's bruises weren't consistent with a water struggle. Are you seriously for real? Jump in the water and see if you come out with dozens of bruises all over your body. Struggle with a rubber dinghy. You won't be bruised. Doesn't happen. That woman was beaten.

 
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July 8 2009, 5:17 AM 

So answer this one. You are on a boat with a loved one. All of a sudden that loved one is nowhere to be found in the contained space of the boat. You:
A Immediately make the necessary calls and go searching for her or him.
B You sit back and say, oh they will turn up
C You sit back, pour a nice big glass of Scotch liquor and say how will this look?

 
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July 8 2009, 8:44 AM 

Purely hypothetical here but my answer to the OP's quesrions would be A.
The second I found a loved one was missing I would stop at nothing to find said person and as quickly as possible.

 
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July 8 2009, 9:00 AM 

Of course you would. That's what most people would do. Wagner did not. He waited and waited and waited. His worshipers feel that it was a normal response because we have the benefit of hindsight. That's a big cop out! The average person who found a loved one missing from a boat late at night with no message left, no note left would call the authorities immediately. This is especially true when the missing person is known to be petrified of deep, dark water. Can one conclude from Wagner's hesitance to call The Coast Guard was that he already knew where she was?

 
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July 8 2009, 9:10 AM 

Oh please, Wagner's fans are lost in Jonathan Hart. Picture this, Jonathan and Jennifer are on their boat. Jennifer "goes to bed". Jonathan goes to join her a while later, she's gone! What would Jonathan do? Would he sit there with Max and drink a bottle of Scotch? Or would he immediately look for Jennifer? What would Wagner's fans big hero do? If they saw him sitting there drinking what would they think? They'd say "Jonathan, Jennifer could die, go look for her!" but their Jonathan would not do that because he loves Jennifer and the response when a man loves a woman more that he loves himself is concern for her and the desire to see her safe and sound. That outweighs EVERYTHING!. Hindsight my ass! It's what one does without a moments hesitation!

 
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July 9 2009, 3:25 PM 

HEY! That is my phrase! "(place subject here)... MY ASS!" LOL but you are dead on the money with everything you said so we can be friends!

 
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July 8 2009, 9:56 AM 

You've failed to include a very important piece in your hypothetical - Natalie wasn't missing alone; the dinghy was also missing. Had she been missing alone (i.e., the dinghy was still with the boat), it would have been a different story. But the dinght was also gone. Any reasonable person would believe she took it.

End of story.

 
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July 8 2009, 10:06 AM 

I don't recall the op mentioning anyone by name. Theirs was a hypothetical scenario but if you would like to take it further.
So that loved one that turns up missing has a life long fear of water and drowning in it. A dinghy is missing, you know that person has had a few drinks and last you saw them they were upset because of an argument. It is dark and cold on the water....So what you are telling me is oh, well they will come back eventually so I'm just going to sit here and get more ****faced on my bottle of Scotch?
BULL ****! Don't play that crap with me. Maybe other people will buy your **** but I won't.
Wagner did something which put that woman in the water. Guilty Mother ****er!

 
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July 8 2009, 10:16 AM 

Not all of these "anonymous" posters are me! I am the original ANONYMOUS on this whole entire message board, nobody was anonymous before me! When it comes to complete anonymity, I am second to no one.

I'm the individual who started this thread, not those other anonymous posters. If you've got something to say, then you say it to me! I'm over here!

Dennis Davern has already admitted that he and "Prince Valiant" were heavily intoxicated on the night that Natalie drowned. " President James A. Garfield's" supporters insist that this was why he neglected to call for help right away, because being drunk, he probably wasn't thinking too clearly.

 
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July 8 2009, 2:29 PM 

You ain't anonymous you are just an idiot. Bull ***, I am the originial Anonymous on this board! ROFL and that statement is supposed to make you the second King Michael Jackson or something?

 
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July 8 2009, 10:32 AM 

in the dark, in her nightgown and RJ knew she was wearing her nightgown. She was alone. The dinghy is an inanimate object. You make it sound like this dinghy had magical powers that caused RJ not to worry about her. Give it a break! Also, in his book he wrote that he knew she would not have gone off by herself in the dinghy, that it was completely out of character for her but waiting 4 hours to call the CG was the thing to do? For all he knew she could have been kidnapped and kidnapper could have stolen the dinghy but he waited and waited and waited because he knew where she was.
This is an example of how Wagner's fans grab at every straw and won't admit that his actions were not that of the average loving husband.

 
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July 8 2009, 5:26 PM 

Nobody in their right mind would ever fall for "Jack Fairfield's" lies! Being drunk is no excuse for irresponsible, and careless behavior! Whether or not "Marcus Simon" was heavily intoxicated when Natalie died, is irrelevant. Once "Tony Petrakis" discovered that Natalie was not in her stateroom on the yacht, and that the dinghy was missing, he should not have assumed that she had just "gone ashore in the dinghy". That was a stupid, imbecilic, and strange assumption to make. Where did he ever come up with such a ridiculous assumption?!

First of all, Natalie was wearing her nightgown, what woman would go ashore in her nightgown? One of "Prince Valiant's" supporters might come here and say "The last time RJ saw Natalie was when she went into her stateroom. So how would he know that she was still wearing her nightgown? For all he knew she could have gone into the stateroom, put on some different clothes, got in the dinghy, and went to shore!"

When will those supporters of his stop? When will they shut their mouths?


 
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July 9 2009, 11:52 AM 

Are you talking about Robwert Wagner? LOL Are all the names in your posts people he played in his stupid movies? I just need to know cuz I cant stand the guy and I dont know one movie of his to the next except for the ones he did with Natalie Wood. She was the only reason i watched them.
So you think the guy is guilty of something? Im serious here. I always thought he knew more than he told the cops. he always had that sneaky snake look about him.

 
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July 9 2009, 1:05 PM 

One of the first things I would have done when I couldn't find her would be to check her things and see what was missing so I'd know what she had on to tell people who were looking for her.
Like I said, that is what I would have done. Wagner saw it different and cracked open a bottle of scotch. Selfish drunk Mother ****er!

 
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