first: translation for the "siese and desist" people: maritime laws means laws relative to boating, marina, sea, lake, river, bay, etc.

I presented the Natalie situation to a friend in the know.
I learned from this maritime lawyer that one of the laws of the sea is the obligation of any vessel nearby in an emergency to stop and render aid, as is the same for passengers who know someone is overboard. Davern wanted to search for Natalie immediately. The boat owner demanded he wait. Davern has no legal liability for any maritime tort now if he ever did: the statute of limitations was three years at most, and the person who had a cause of action for it was the much more culpable Wagner himself.

The fake "lawyer" who typed "seise" and desist was not discussing maritime law. He was discussing gag orders. He misspelled cease and typed "seise" as he was ordering us to stop discussing Wagner's culpability in Natalie's death by threatening us with gag orders.

LOL As a matter of fact the fake lawyer typed "seice" LMAO, not seise or cease.

They are still talking about that old post about gag orders. Time to move on.

LOL. I would want to move on also. It's very embarrassing to the "team Wagner" that their big time attorney can't spell simple legal terms or know the meaning of these simple legal terms. LMAO

Here we go with Miss Knowitall again. Now she is playing a maritime lawyer. Good one!


fanofvlad

One does not have to be a lawyer to be able to spell simple words like "cease", not a challenge for anyone expect for YOU. "Seice" is not a word. One does not need a law degree to know that it would be cease and desist rather that the team Wagner's "seice and desist". Stupid fool!

So explain this Miss Knowitall!" not a challenge for anyone expect for YOU." Don't you mean except? Snap crackle pop how do you like it?
G****108 is the little old historian knowitall on the net. You think you know everything about Natalie Wood. You have to have the last word all the time. You are not the only person that knows about Natalie Wood but you always have to be the knowitall. You never give anyone a chance to talk. Try shutting up once in awhile. You have nothing else to say so now you are correcting posts. Try correcting your own Miss Knowitall or is that Law major friend? Now she will run to the site owner and have my post censored or deleted as usual. Truth hurts.

G****108 thinks she is a Natalie Wood Historian, she conned M**** R**** into thinking she is a historian, when all she knows is what is written in the books and tabloids. G****108 never even met Natalie or RJ, she is an old lady with nothing better to do but to stir up the pot all over the internet making folk think she knows what she is talking about, when all she does is quote text.

So nice to see we am not alone on this. I don't know how people can stand her. Someone says something and before anyone has a chance to respond she jumps right in. There is a private group on the net that call her Last Word on Wood because she always has to have the last word on Natalie Wood.

Does anyone doubt that "Bob" is yet another ID for Gordan, fanofvlad, doowanal, vindicator, wagners etc, etc, etc???
She is obviously obsessed and a tad jealous. Get over it! You need help. LOL

It does not matter who you say I am because you have posts all over the Internet under different names too. The fact is I am right. You think you know everything and you don't bother listening to anyone else. You never say anything about other person's misspelled words or your own but you come after everyone you think likes RJ. You are Miss Knowitall G****108 now who has to have the last word.

If Miss Knowitall historian knows so much about Natalie Wood why hasn't she written a book about her?
LIAR!

We are blogging right now about the book Vlad is writing. He said that other person dosn't know anything about Natalie. She makes things up and tries to make people believe she an authourity.

fanofvlad

more stupidity from the Vlad-bloggers, "dosn't" "authourity"

The Wagner "clan" -- poor spelling and ignorance aside -- know the barest details about Natalie's life and death. 99.9% of what they have to say stems from their inner anger over their idol being exposed. They bear no resemblence to decent, thoughful human beings, they refuse to answer questions put to them directly or respecfully, and they thrive off one thing and one thing only: their ignorant belief that their idol could never have done anything wrong. There were many fans of OJ Simpson who once felt the same way and still do. There is nothing anyone can do to change the minds of these sub-human beings. They remain in a fantasy world: they take up space in an intellectual world and could care less that that is all they are good for. The people they gossip about--the real people in the know--realize the insignificance of these ignoranmuses here, and I'm suggesting we all step back from them. We laugh at their posts and misuse of words and knowledge, but, frankly, these kind of people do frighten me, and not because they do know information, but because they don't. They do not frighten me because of their idle threats here about "winds of change" and "truth-a-coming ramblings" -- They frighten me because they remind me of mindless sheep--followers, such as the Manson clan. Yes, that's what these people remind me of. They worship one idol at the expense of anyone else.
People like this who make idle threats in public often have more sinister type threats lingering in their angered minds. These kind of people are a waste to society, a burden on an intellectual society. I encourage all to leave them alone and let them remain in their in fantasy abyss. That's where they belong, and hopefully that's where they will stay. I am the person who posted the maritime law message, and I haven't been here in ages. I am sorry I visited at all.

I am the person who posted the maritime law message, and I haven't been here in ages. I am sorry I visited at all.

You are always here! LIAR!

Obviously the die hard fans of Robert Wagner will not see his culpability because they don't want to see it. Don't waste your time. Take a look at the level of intelligence of some of his fans.

they must be talking about you. LOL

You are a moron. You post on this site all day using various IDs. You are totally obsessed.

I referred to the morons of this forum, with the multiple names with my recent post...not the sensible posters who know Natalie's death needs investigating.

I was not referring to you. I was referring to the idiot with the multiple IDs who is THE moron.
You appear to be one of the more sensible posters here.
Natalie's death should be re-investigated. There were too many lies told by Wagner the first time around. The investigation was based on his lies.

Miss Knowitall was there. She was in the hospital when Natalie was born and she never left her for a minute through her life. If she thought people believe it she would say she is still with her.
Run along Miss Knowitall. Another board needs questions answered about Natalie and everyone is too stupid to answer them. Only you can answer Natalie questions and talk about Natalie. Hurry hurry Miss Knowitall.
historian=liar

there you go again, sounding obsessed and green with envy!

It's because her book would be tabloid text, that's all she knows. "Last Word On Wood" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LMAO

another name for Gordon, vindicator, fanofvlad, wagners etc. Now we have "Jim".
Your jealousy permeates every post.

G****108 LAST WORD ON WOOD
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LMAO

The person with the last (or final) word on Wood will be Natalie, herself. Wait and see. Too bad for you that "Miss Know-it-all" DOES know it all...and you DON'T. Morons don't usually receive that same kind of privledge, as this case proves. Thank you "Miss Know-it-all" for there are so many things we Natalie fans would never know if not for you.

"Natalie herself"? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL is there something we don't know? LOL is she alive? LMFAO "The Last Word On Wood " has struck again LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

Again, moron, by Natalie having the final word doesn't mean she is alive. It means there was a lot untold...like Natalie's part, you idiot, that will finally be told. SOme people know and you don't.

Natalie's part will be told LOLOLOLOLOLOLby who? not natalie so by who? Da**** and Ru*** LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL AKA Dumb and Dumber, you call that Natalie's final word? LMMFAO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO your insane LMMFAO....insert foot in mouth LOL

LOL wait till RJ gets a hold of this one LOL this is a classic, Dav and Rul are know speaking the final words of Natalie Wood HUGE HUGE HUGE LOL

Enter Jerry! I am so impressed by the Vlad fan club. It keeps adding new members every hour! What a celeb line up!

Whoever had the post here about G()Ys. I don't care whose side you are on I don't appreciate that comment and I don't care if it was from Team Wagner or the Knowitalls. It is gone now so somebody reported it.

I fully trust that Davern and Rulli will have the final word on Natalie's death. It sure hasn't come from anyone else, especially her former husband. Rulli and Davern have no reason to lie. None. Natalie deserves the final word, and I'm still looking forward to it, as I see many people are per the sales thus far of Goodbye Natalie.

Is there a Wagner-historian in the house? LOL. He isn't even worth writing about!

"Natalie deserves the final word" LOLOLOL here we go again...is there something we all don't know? LOL who in the hell made R**** and Da**** the spokespersons for Natalie Wagner. There is only a few spokespersons for Natalie Wagner, RJ, Natasha, and Courtney.

You gave yourself away "TOM" with the Natalie Wagner routine! LOL
Dumb Dumb Dumb
So you sat here all day talking to yourself again.
Sad life.

"Natalie will have the final" word LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOl LMMFAO insert foot into ass.

I am not Tom. I am Phil. You are so stupid you can't read simple names!

"There is only a few spokespersons for Natalie Wagner, RJ, Natasha, and Courtney."
So you are telling me you did not post this sentence under the name "TOM"?
You are using so many screen names you can't keep track of them! The post you used that sentence in is sent by Tom and a few posts later you changed your name to Tom Kuminmypants which sounds real adult.
You are one sick fool.

A celebrity or politician, or anyone in public life, can certainly have more than family members to "speak" for them after death. If that wasn't the case, many damn good history books would never have been written or published. Sometimes, someone willing to do the proper research can tell more about a deceased person than family members can who find it difficult to be objective.
It is unfair to condemn Rulli as an author of a book about Natalie. She, like any other author, has every American right to offer what she has researched and learned. Finstad and Rulli are condemned because they get too close to the truth about what really happened the night Natalie died. People have a right to know truth. Rulli has the right to write a book and have it published. But, most authors realize that the kind of immaturity displayed here comes with the territory. She must be a pretty decent person to be letting all of this go. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. At least wait until her book is in your hands. Then, critique it constructively and with maturity. This place is obviously filled with childlike minds and intellect. It's nice to read the posts with sense (Eduardo, yentruocahsatan, some anonymous names, etc), but most of you need serious help.

Here we go again with the "truth". Whoever you are you are an advocate for R****'s book because you are convinced it will be the truth, this means you could only be one person G****. R**** does not know the "truth". R**** is not the spokesperson for Natalie. R**** has no right to claim she knows the truth, even if the tall tail comes from D*****. If R**** is advocating that what is in her book is the truth, she will be libel, and so will you, remember you signed a disclaimer. Only two persons know the truth, Natalie and RJ. RJ put the truth in writing in his book, what will come with R****'s book is mear speculation.

"mear" speculation? That would be mere speculation. Davern was there. His word is more than speculation.
And Robert Wagner lied in his book about many things. If he lied about the little things one can only imagine the lies he told about the big things. And, he lied to the police.
What makes Wagner's truth more believable that Davern's truth?

"She will be libel." "tall tail" LMAO

Obviously, you don't know what a disclaimer is and when one is given the privledge of an inside look at the pre-published manuscript by the author, nothing is signed.

Yes, RJ does know the truth but he will never tell it. In his book he claimed that he didn't know what happened.

There is more that one person who believes in Rulli's book.
You keep attributing all positive comments about the book to this one person with whom you are obviously obessed.
Many people are supportive of Rulli and the book. You will see that when you read the book and you will read the book.

How do you know Wagner lied in his book?, were you there?, were you married to him?, did you date him?. His girls toured with him on his book signing they believe in what he wrote. Are you calling Natalie's girls liars, you must be. May God bles you soul.

Chuck, you are so smart, you are right, to believe RJ is to believe his family because they are tight. If anyone believes this book of fiction coming out, they would be calling the Wagner girls liars. I would rather have a hot poker up my *ss then call Natalie's girls liars. I bet Natalie is real sad about right now, but what comes around goes around.

You are both sooooo right.

His daughters were not on the boat. They have no way of knowing what was true and what was a lie. His daughters were grieving children when he began dating Jill 2 months after their mother died. He claimed 6 months in his book. That's a lie. He also lied in the police report. He lied to the police about something very significant. Some of the other lies he told in his book Natalie's daughters were either too young to know better or not born yet. If you can't recognize the lies in his book then you know nothing about his life or Natalie's life. You are obviously just starting out.

"May God "bles" "you" soul". Drama queen!

The Wagner girls know everything, they are not stupid or sheltered like you claim. Through their own attrition they know just what happened that night, more than R**** and alot more than Da****. Davern was drunk and on drugs, what he knows is a haze. You know of no lies in Wagners book because you don't know the truth, YOU were not there. For someone as yourself to say RJ's book is full of lies, well that shows how much you DON'T know. If I were you I would try to get out of your non-disclosure statement you signed with R**** before it's too late, I would hate to see you in prison, but then again you are in a prison of your own.

One does not sign non-disclosures when the author requests that a person read the pre-published manuscript.

They are not stupid, both were blessed with their mother's intelligence. However they have been sheltered by Wagner from the truth. They have no way of knowing what happened that night. The girls know only what he told them which is tainted with lies.
RJ began drinking before Dennis and then he drank with Dennis. Dennis smoked one joint. If Dennis was in a haze, so was RJ.
If you can't see the lies in his book you know nothing about his life. Even his die-hard fans know that he began seeing Jill in Feb 1982, not in May 1982. He lied because 6 months looks better for the grieving hubby than a mere 8 weeks. With RJ it's all about how it looks.
You are obsessed with prison and jail. LOL I have done nothing illegal.
"but then again you are in a prison of your own" drama queen! If anyone is in a prison of her own it's you, you post here day and night, talking to yourself with different names. totally obsessed with a worthless actor who wouldn't walk on the same side of the street as you unless there were flash bulbs popping, then he'd flash that fake smile.

This book is nothing like what you are expecting. People will be astounded by this book.

I am glad you admitted Dennis was in a haze, that closes the door for your book and its credibility. I will forward your post to R****. You are clearly obsessed with 2 things, when RJ met Jill and the time it took RJ to call for help. RJ answered both of those questions in his book, but you say he is a liar, were you there? LOL I think not. Why don't we let Natalie tell the truth in her new book coming out in September HUGE HUGE LOL

Can anybody seriously be this infatuated with a two-bit TV actor who very likely had something to do with a beautiful woman's death? There are some sicko people in this world. I think God is blessing the people who value truth and not these scary individuals. Thank God for God's discretions!

The person said disclaimer then corrected themself with DISCLOSURE! They made an error and corrected it. I see you know nothing about the publishing world just as you know nothing about the film world. The person or persons who said they read the manuscript did NOT indulge anyone in revealing anything in the manuscript verbatim including the dedication when the question was posed to s/he or them.
The person or persons never said that what was contained in the manuscript was the absolute truth. What they said was something to the effect of after reading it, it was something they believed. Let me state, we live in a supposed free country. If a person cares to believe that the Three Little Pigs is truth the Wolf family can not sue them for libel unless they have positive proof that the author or the pigs lied!
I am in no way comparing this children's fairy tale with the book in question. I am merely making a distinctive observation in layman's terms which seems to be all anyone understands on this board.
Libel? Do you know the proper definition in conjunction with the law? Very few people have log in status on this site. I tend to believe the few that log in and discard the rest as nothing more than pure comedy entertainment. Although I might add, there are a few who make sense to me who do not log in but always stay consistant in screen name and thoughts.
These are the people who don't bluster about hacking away at the English language, add the mundane LOL to every sentence, or my own personal favorites; posing as lawyers for Team Wagner and all the other oddities of fan of... and real fanof...that list is endless.
I have noticed that all these absurd monikers have one thing in common beside their stupidity which is, they attempt to twist a person's words to fit their own agenda and usually fail miserably.
Intelligence wins out every time and I for one will never buy what they have to sell.
I wonder how many different monikers will hack away blindly at this post?

The name along side the post that refers to Natalie Wood as Natalie Wagner is "Tom". It must be confusing for one person to be posting with so many different names. Perhaps Phil is the stupid one or is it Tom or both?

Has anyone checked the posts yesterday? All the Rj lovers posts are one following another with barely 10 to 15 minutes between them. Wow! I guess his fan club of one was very busy keeping it in one thread yeaterday!
LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

How dare you speak to me that way! I did not post at all yesterday. Our leader is back where he belongs taking control of the Natalie board on IMBD.
I expect an apology at once!

Who said it was you, fanofvlad? I did not see your name used or any other name for that matter! Case of the "guilt" I see! BTW, have you been over to IMDb? Your "exhaulted" Leader was ignored by all except two people. One corrected one of your dear boy's faux pas and the other person trounced on every word your "celeb" blogger posted.
If this is any example of that shifting wind you so readily talk about in post upon post I fear it will be nothing but a slight unnoticeable breeze come September.

once again. Lunk head its IMDB

Once again, open mouth, insert foot! She seems to trip over herself no matter where she goes.