One of Wagner's fan is saying that Rulli used this forum as a source. That is just plain stupid! Rulli had Dennis, Duane Rasure, Frank Salerno, Marilyn Wayne, Lyn Taylor and Thomas Noguchi. Having all of those people at her disposal why would she need this place. Think about it.
Wagner's fans are desperate to discredit this book and Rulli. They refuse to open their minds to anything negative about RJ Wagner. He lied in his book to enhance his image but they won't even go there.
If Dennis mentioned in GNGS that Wagner told him that he sat in his car with a gun waiting to kill Warren Beatty Wagner's fans would say that Dennis was lying, that RJ would never do such a thing. Well, their boy did just that. He told the story of how he was drinking a great deal and how angry he was. Wagner revealed what he was capable of when he was drunk and angry. He thought about killing someone, held a gun in his hand. Dennis has never held a gun in his hand waiting to kill someone. what makes Wagner a better person than Dennis? What makes Wagner's word more credible that Dennis' word. There has been mention of Davern lying. Well, RJ lied to the police. RJ told Dennis what to say. Both were wrong to lie but the bottom line in comparison to RJ, Dennis owed Natalie some loyalty but RJ owed her a lot more than Dennis Davern---A LOT MORE!
Wagner's fans are boo-hooing about Davern and Rulli doing this for a buck. First of all, if money was what Dennis wanted he could have made millions in the first few years following Natalie's death when this was THE hot story.
In GNGS he could have told the world that Wagner was bi-sexual. He didn't. Why? Because he never saw anything to make him think RJ was bi-sexual. Dennis was honest. RJ, on the other hand outed everyone who ever had a whisper about their sexuality. Dennis is the better man. He was not certain so he did not say it was the case. In his book RJ played the Natalie card. For years it was like pulling teeth to get him to talk about her but in his book, he talked and talked and talked. And what he said was vastly different that what he said to Gavin Lambert. You would not have known he was talking about the same woman. Was money a consideration when RJ wrote his book, of course it was.
Since Natalie died, with the exception of The Intimate Portrait with Katie Wagner, he has refused to take part in any documentaries but he's there for all his friends but the Natalie, he's busy or it's "too painful"
Read GNGS and draw your own conclusions. It's not a repeat of stories already told as Wagner's fans want to to believe. This book gives Natalie something that she was robbed of, it gives her a voice.

I have drawn my own conclusion. Robert Wagner is guilty. That is my conclusion. I did not need Marti Rulli or Dennis Davern to tell me this. I have always felt this way. His story always changed and those changes had holes in them every time.
I bought the book. I have read to chapter 32 so far. It is very interesting and I feel it is well informed and well written but again I say I did not need the author or anyone else to tell me what I always knew.

Most sensible people do not need this new author or anyone else to draw the obvious conclusions of Natalie's death, and hopefully, you may see that Davern's story did NOT change: many wrote things he said that he never said!
Rulli did a good job of presenting all of the facts and clearing the smeared name of her friend Davern, who, in essence, was nothing more than RJ's pawn.
To the original poster of this thread, BRAVO: you have said it all. I think the world has been looking at the WRONG bad guy in this legendary saga.
To the poster up to chapter 32: we'd like to hear from you when you've finished.

I am the poster who was up to Chapter 32 last evening. You asked for my opinion when I was finished. I'm finished and here is my opinion.
If this exact case with scenario intact went to a trial by jury and I was on that jury and Robert Wagner was the defendant and the charge was Negligent Homicide no amount of Hollywood Razzle-Dazzle would change my mind.
I would vote;
GUILTY!

Which is exacly the reason why defense attorneys are allowed to question the state's witnesses/evidence. The book presents one side (which was, of course, its purpose), but to say you'd find guilt simply based on that without hearing a challenge to the evidence goes against everything the US justice system stands for.

I hope you're never in my jury pool.

The self professed erudites of the Hart to Hart generation will always stand by their "Television legend". A brick of guilt could fall on their heads and they'd never feel it.

I know nothing of the eruidites you speak of but I do know my own mind and I stand by my beliefs. Purely hypothetical. If this exact scenario came to be and only the names and places were different (say, Bill and Betty Bosh from Hoboken travelling on Lake Zoar)and Betty turned up missing and later dead under the EXACT circumstances that Rulli tells and if this case came to court with Mr. Bosh as the defendant and I was on the jury I would vote Guilty as charged.
As an aside here; if this was Mr. and Mrs. Bosh from Hoboken I can assure you Mr. Bosh would not have been stroked, soothed and allowed to go home as quickly as Mr. Wagner was so the subsequent turn of events would have been much different.

Davern is the better man? Yeah, so much better he didn't step in when he felt Natalie was being physically threatened. Instead, he chose his job over a fellow human being. When she was missing, he didn't tell Wagner to go to hell and turn on the lights or call the coast guard himself, no he sat back and drank was Wagner was pouring.

Let's not cannonize Davern. If what he's saying is true, his actions that night should be condemned, not praised.

Who would you expect more from, the skipper of your boat or your husband? Dennis should not have been put in the position to over rule Wagner.
Let's not canonize Wagner, either. He owed her a hell of a lot more than Dennis.

Wagner has hardly been cannonized on this board, nor was that my intent. But everyone here is singing Davern's praises. If he KNEW or even SUSPECTED Natalie was in danger, he had an obligation - if not as the captain and her friend, then just as a fellow human being - to come to her aid. HE DID NOT!! Instead he turned up the radio so no one would hear them arguing. That is pathetic and his actions deserves scorn not accolades.

You people AREN'T READING! MY goodness, READ THIS BOOK! Davern putting on music was to HELP his employers, not to hurt them. He NEVER thought RJ would let Natalie DIE. He thought it was a too loud argument, and felt embarrassed for them. Then, all hell broke loose. READ IT!

And Wagner should be in prison and if anyone's action were pathetic it was Wagner.
Wagner has been getting accolades for years. The poor widower. PLEASE.

Sorry, but I got a different picture than that. Davern did try to stop the arguing. He was socializing with them and had been drinking. He didn't know the grave danger Natalie was in. His mind couldn't fathom that RJ might've done something so terrible so he followed his boss's lead, much to his own dismay when fact and truth hit him! Post traumatic stress does many strange things to many people. Davern was left to identify Natalie. Oh, please, don't tell me he should've done anything differently by sheer instinct. Poor guy had no clue what to do. Wagner fed him booze and bull to prevent him from doing anything. I cut Davern a break on this one. What a position to be in! None of us may have done anything differently. Davern WANTED to believe the boss he cared for: turned out, after trying to for years, he just couldn't anymore. And, when that happened, he was still working for RJ, so don't feed me it was money he was after. Davern could've made a hellava lot more than he'll ever make from this book....by lying! But clearly, he's out for something better.

Poor guy?? Give me a break! I'm sorry, all this praise of Dennis makes me sick.

"Wagner fed him booze" - Which Dennis READILY drank!!

None of us may have done anything differently?" - Speak for yourself. I see two friends arguing, I step in. I'm told to back off, but still feel the weaker of the two is in danger, I say "screw you" and help. At the very least, he could have awakened Walken to help him. All his rationalizing now doesn't cut it with me. If what he says is true, he is as responsible for Natalie not being here as Wagner is.

BULLS***!!!!! Only one person is responsible for Natalie's death and we all know who that is now for sure. Even Wagner has said he is the responsible one! Guilty conscience? You say that Davern should've stepped in: HE DID! He wanted to wake up Walken (are you reading this book?) but Wagner had just smashed a wine bottle in Walken's face. Davern had been drinking over dinner: he was in a real hard spot here: a hard spot and a rock. You have NO CLUE what you would've done. And I have No CLUE what I would've done. God, what a position to be in. I feel sorry for Davern whether that makes you want to vomit or not.

No, I know EXACTLY what I would have done. I would have helped someone in danger. End of story.

Anyone who said they wouldn't have - or isn't sure what they would have done (how is that even possible??) - is weak and pathetic. How do you stop when told to?? How could you possibly not help??

My God...

This old crow already said that on another group site. Now she is repeating herself here.
Oh poor RJ. Everyone is being mean to him. BULL ****!
Natalie Wood is dead because of him. Go away you nasty old buzzard.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL They are flying from the RJ group and back here like little old hens. Sherlock Homes H***i is screaming about lie detector tests and the English Lass J****e is screaming that Davern couldn't be a background actor because he isn't listed on imdb and big mouth K***e is screaming about anything that anyone will listen too and Jessica is trying not to DROOL too much. LOLOLOL Bunch of tired old hens trying to polish their Hart-throb's bruised ego. It is too wild for words. Every now and then another old hen member will try to talk about something else like Stefanie Powers or Hart to hart or a picture from eBay but they are not having any of that. It is all out War on GNGS and their fingernails are dripping blood.
I can't post here anymore because they know they have a hater in their group. If they only knew there are more than one and we have been there since they cleaned house the first time.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I really don't get the obsession here with the RJ group. Why the spying?

nor do I get their obsession with this forum.

I guess I just never understood the troll mentality. I'm a live and live let person. What do I care if someone is a Wagner fan, Wood fan, or Donald Duck fan? I'm not racing to the Donald Duck site to make fun of his fans and reporting back here how they reacted. What thrill comes from stirring up trouble? The fact that you're not doing it in person so no one knows your real identity? Fact is, people behave a lot of ways on the faceless Internet they'd never dare repeat in person. But that also shows a lack in character, IMO.

/end of rant.

But that also shows a lack in character, IMO.

/end of rant. (inject smiley face here)
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and your smiley face shows you are an adult?

No, my smiley was just an attempt at being polite. Something not too common on this board, so I completely understand how you failed to recognize it.

because that is what XXXX does, she is a sick twisted pervert troll, and she was a source for the book LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

You need to get over XXX. She was a very small part of this book. You are obsessed with her, perhaps you are jealous that no one would give you the time of day because you are THE sick, twisted, pervert troll who loves to stir up trouble. No one takes idiots like you seriously. Your green is showing!