Dennis Davern confirms that Natalie and Walken were indeed having an affair. So she was a slut after all, and Davern should know he was there LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

No, Dennis confirmed that RJ thought she was having an affair. Dennis did not say she was having an affair. Once again the tabloid queen is making up stories.
How typical of Wagner's pathetic fans to attack a dead woman by calling her vile names.
I guess we'll have to wait for RJ's day to come.

and I guess RJ killed Natalie because Dennis was there, he saw and heard it all.

No, actually she was abducted by aliens. They just accidently dropped her while carrying her to their spaceship.

BTW - I took a lie dector and passed.

the talk around Hollywood for a long time after it happened was that Wagner wanted Walken. There was a lot of gossip about what went on between the 2 men when Natalie left the boat with Dennis. Walken and Wagner were alone.

The sexuality of both men has been questioned.

Questioned only by internet gossip types who refuse to accept a simple, albeit, tragic accident. It wasn't questioned by reasonable people.

There was never anything writen about either man's sexuality until internet sites like this one sprung up. Finstad's book was the first place Wagner's sexuality was questioned. FACT!

OH PLEASE, there have been stories about his sexuality going back to his early days in Hollywood. His parents were concerned about the time he spent with gay man
You see what you want to see. Robert WAgner is very definitely Bi-sexual.

Give me the stories. Cite them.

Fact is you can't.

My guess is you're too young to remember those early days first hand and you only what you've read in books like Finstad's or recent tabloids take their cue from her.

BTW - is Davern lying is his book when he said that he saw no bisexual tendancies from Wagner? Or was he lying there too?

FACT: my friend is friends with a guy who works in a Beverly Hills hotel. He says that Wagner was always bringing younger guys in, for a few hours here and there. Guess they were playing checkers? This is FACT. This is when he was married to Jill, not Natalie. What's the difference? It's okay to be bi. It's okay to be anything you want, as long as you don't hurt others.

About is Davern lying about Wagner's bisexuality. No, I don't think he is. Davern says he never recognized it. I believe him. I believe everything Davern says. He passed a lie detector. Those machines WORK!

Wagner admitted that there have been rumors about his sexuality since his early days in Hollywood. He admitted that he was linked with many men. In his book he avoided the subject. LOL. He made himself out to be the big Hollywood playboy. He discussed all the women he allegedly had sex with. These women are either dead or too sick to care what Wagner claims. But his loyal fans believe every word. They believe that their boy managed to keep all of this quiet when it allegedly occurred. Talk about gullible.

THE DOUCHE BAG WHO STATED THIS THREAD IS NOT **** *******. **** ******** IS A FAN OF NATALIE WOOD. HE ALSO GOES BY THE NAME THE REAL FRED WITH TIRES ON IMDB AND BY EDUARDO ARON CLEAVER ON HERE.
THAT IS IS.
IF THE ***** WANTS TO COME AFTER SOMEONE, COME AFTER ME YOU WORTHLESS ****! HALF THE POSTS AND THREADS AGAINST YOU AND YOUR DRUNK ROBERT WAGNER ARE MINE AND YOU KNOW WHO I AM!
ANYONE WHO KNOWS ********* KNOWS HE WOULD NEVER CALL NATALIE WOOD A SLUT. HE IS ALSO LISTED IN THE BACK PAGE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS OF GOODBYE NATALIE GOOD BYE SPLENDOR BUT ONCE AGAIN THE **** IS TOO STUPID TO DO HER HOMEWORK!
THE DOUCHE BAG WHO STARTED THIS THREAD IS INSANELY JEALOUS OVER ***** AND WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO STALK HER AND HER FRIENDS.
ALL THE *******, HALEGRO, VLADISMYIDOL THREADS AND POSTS WERE STARTED BY THIS ****!
IPS CAN BE TRACED AND HOW IS MY ENGLISH NOW, MORON?

That's probably the only thing you believe in the book. Or is that a lie also. LOL

Wagner "claims" to have been with many women, and he talks about many men, (in his book) and he acts far more emotionally atttached to the men in his book than he does to the women (they are "great ladies" or "wonderful people" but the men, well, it's thick as syrup his feelings for all his "men friends") -- this is all fine. This does not make him anything but a man who likes what he likes and has done what he has done in his personal life, and who cares?
But, if a woman has an affair, she becomes a "slut" -- ???
The OP here is short-sighted, ignorant, and definitely biased toward someone she wishes would screw her. She's the slut. LOL

I'm asking again---- isn't this board about Natalie????

Why are we wondering about copies of DVD's and who Robert Wagner slept with???!!!

C'mon people!! Wake up!!!!!!!

The board is about Natalie Wood. Robert Wagner was married to her so anything about him is relevant including who he slept or didn't sleep with.
As for the bootleg DVDs, I see that is on another thread not on this one but as you brought it up here it is relevant for it to be on the NAtalie Wood board. From what I read Bootleg copies were sold on Robert Wagner, Stefanie Powers and Hart to Hart sites. Natalie Wood was married to Robert Wagner who co starred in the series Hart to Hart with Stefanie Powers which at one time had a producing credit of Rona II on it which was owned by Wood and Wagner so they really are all related to Natalie Wood.

No, this board is about the DEATH of Natalie Wood. Who cares who her husband slept with. Let's get back on topic!!!!!!!!!!

The board is an open forum. We can talk about anything we like. If you don't like it don't read it.

But nobody thinks Chris Walken is gay do they? I got confused. Wagner is probably gay though his wife is pretty scary looking. Maybe if she accidentally falls into a crevasse in Colorado he can marry Liza. I do not think Natalie ever knew what to think about him. She was a baby when she married him the first time and whatever she saw when she left him the first time probably just confused and scared her and then she put it out of her head. Or maybe thought it was a phase, a lot of beautiful women have ended up in her position.

Don't underestimate Natalie Wood at any age. I think the lady understood fully whatever she was seeing and hearing from a very tender age onward. She was a Hollywood child. She knew what Gay was more than likely from around the same time she learned how to tie her own shoes.
No babe in the woods was that savvy lady.
She only made one mistake in her life and it cost her her life.
The mistake: She fell in love with Robert Wagner.

She was really sheltered by her mother but yes was probably liberal in her attitudes since she grew up a star. Maybe he told her it was an experiment. When you fall in love you will pretty much buy the farm. In the books it sounds like she was lonely when he came back around and kaboom he had her. She seemed to have a reputation as a real lady and maybe didnt know a lot about sex or bisexuality. I thought it was suspicious that in his book he named Barbara Stanwyck as his first big romance, since she is so conveintly dead its hard for her to dispute it. But he sounds so obsessed with Cary Grant in the book. Though I dont know if Cary Grant was gay or not and I dont want to say anything nasty about him, just about Wagner lol.

I was telling a friend of mine that after reading the books I didnt like Christopher Walken anymore and he yelled at me and said that Christopher Walken was a great academy award winning actor. Which I think is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I mean Joan Crawford was a really good actor too and what does that have to do with being a good person? Then he said that Walken was probably drugged and thats why he didnt do or say anything. That is kind of hard to swallow too. Could it be something really simple like he knows everything and could care less? He did say in his Playboy interview that it was a f..king bore which pretty much underlines my point thay you can be a good actor and still be a waste of space.

RJ always fancied himself as his generation's Cary Grant. Grant was a mega star. A super star before the term was invented. RJ never reached the lofty heights of Cary Grant or came close. The only thing the two share in common is a bit of longevity and it stops right there.

Good point, I would never want to say or even think anything bad about Cary Grant. I'll just go back to comparing Wagner to Jeffrey McDonald now sans the jail sentence. You know Jeffrey McDonald claimed in his lawsuit that Joe McGinnis's excellent book Fatal Vision is the reason he is still in prison which if even a little true goes to show how powerful a popular book can be in swaying events. I bet Manson does not keep Helter Skelter on his bookshelf.

When is the last movie Christopher Walken made? Seems like since GNGS the only reason anyone is still talking about him is because he is part of a coverup. Maybe he can play Wagner in the movie version.

Walken is a good actor and well respected but he is not the first name to roll off the tongues of producers. He is probably somewhere after they try to get DeNiro, Nicholson, Hackman and a host of other above the title actors. I will give him this much, I'm sure he on on more producer's tongues than RJ is, was or ever will be.

well yeah! wasnt Wagners only big screen roll Prince Valiant in 34AD? lol. Carrot Top is more respected then him

No his biggest role was as the MURDERER in A Kiss Before Dying. You must have the Greta Garbo wig he wore in Prince Valiant confused with him. The wig was a better actor than he ever was.

Rofl oh a kiss before dying, well I bet it wasnt as good as the remake with Matt Dillon. Gosh its really hard to understand why Wagner is forced to make AARP commericals when he was such a HUGE movie star lol. He is just like Clint Eastwood who is still an enormous star, yup they are just the same except for the huge star part and oh yeah Clint only killed people in his movies.

I'll drink to that!

Lots of stars make commercials but they don't make commercials for a money fleecing company geared toward the elderly. The man is revolting.

true true lol, but I'm guessing the big money commercial offers arent exactly piling up. Too bad they dont make commercials encouraging alchoholism. Perjury or wife beating, he'd be HUGE. I wonder if Law and Order SVU will do a show based on the book wouldnt that be cool?

Not in HIS lifetime! LOL

For real? Law and Order has to wait till the perp is dead? dammmmm shame cause that would have rocked it. So rereading Fatal Vision and it really makes you feel for true crime authors. I mean think about it. Marti Rulli she basically solved that crime and yet she had to collaborate with a man that you get the feeling she did not always implicity believe, not only that she saw pre-meditation in Wagner's actions and I agree with her. But for the rest of time she will always have to use her clout and brains to make Davern look as good as possible because what I never realized before was that awesome Joe McGinnis the author of Fatal Vision actually lived with that monster Jeffrey Macdonald for six months and then totally had this friendly correspondence with him for a couple years. But I dont see how he could have gotten the inside story otherwise. However icepick boy Macdonald felt "betrayed" by McGinnis and sued him for some bs false relationship bogus crap, AND WON the whole thing cost a hero writer nearly a million dollars in legal fee's and payouts. The moral of that sad miscarriage of justice is that by the nature of true crime the people who write it have to get close to the ones with the story that part is okay but then it looks like they have to keep them sweet forver after and that is not fair.

You can't compare Walken with Wagner but never are Powerhouse. Where Walken is no longer leading man status he is smart enough to concentrate on character parts much as James Woods, Willem Dafoe and actors of that ilk do. None is lone above the title billing anymore but they have carved out great careers unlike RJ who does silly campy send ups of himself, cheap dime store imitations of Cary Grant in TV guest spots and those awful commercials for that suck out your last penny lending company.
I guess it is because the other men have real talent, RJ? Not so much.