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October 5 2011 at 3:22 PM
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If you people were really and seriously interested in the truth none of you would allow a person like that to post without major complaints.
Remember! This is the same person that called Robert Wagner that homophobic word F*g when he was convinced that he killed Natalie Wood and this is the same person who called Natalie Wood a S***t when he changed his mind about Robert Wagner.
I've had his posts deleted from the IMDB board several times and I have many friends who have helped me out. These friends have no ax to grind with either the Wood or the Wagner fans but they, like me are trying to stamp out trolls like this horrendous person. We have been doing this silently for over two years now but we can't continue to be the only ones reporting him under all his accounts and guises. Hopefully I have talked some sense into a few people who continually feed him and they have stopped responding to him.
Report his posts on IMDB to administration. Help stamp out trollism where Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood are concerned.
Thank you.

PS Dear Hartbeat from the RJ group. If you are still around and reading these boards, I hope you are doing well my friend..

 
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October 5 2011, 3:32 PM 

Why can't one or two people keep reporting him? If he bothers you then you should keep doing it. You're not going to win hearts and minds here by calling everyone chicken----- like you did this morning. Ms. Rulli is aware of his posts, it is incumbent on her to report him since she is the one being attacked. Many of us will continue to defend her name and book in our posts on this forum. Yes, it is a tedious, repetive job because he never gives up. He doesn't bother me. He is pathetic and very easily shot down. Meanwhile, the truth about GNGS continues to be told here. You give him way too much power in your reactions, there is more than one way to "feed a troll". I don't say this with malice just that he doesn't get under our skin the way he seems to affect you. We all know what he is and we treat him accordingly.

 
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October 5 2011, 3:43 PM 

Excuse me? I called no one "chicken" at any time and I have not posted on here since...Well, I honestly could not tell you when the last time I posted on here.
If you don't want to report trolls and help stamp them out that is fine but perhaps there are others that do.
I mentioned no other persons or screen names in my post and I have no idea where all your other discourse is coming from concerning anyone else.

 
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October 5 2011, 3:49 PM 

Maybe he gets under the guy's skin and affects him because he along with some of us have have dealings with him on Amazon, on the RJ groups in emails and in attempted computer malfunctions. Have you? Just because I am a fan of RJ does not mean I support people who troll.

 
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October 5 2011, 5:42 PM 

I apologize if I have confused you with another poster. Someone on the If I were Marti Rulli thread called us all chicken----- this morning for not reporting the troll. They felt Ms. Rulli had been libeled. It was the same complaints that you had and sounded very similar. Again, I apologize if I am mistaken. Yes, to the other OP I have gone mano a mano with the troll and others many times. Daily to be exact. It is annoying and tiring but doesn't get to me in any significant way. As long as I can print the truth about the case and defend Ms. Rulli I can easily sidestep his insanity.

 
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October 6 2011, 4:57 AM 

You can sidestep it and I can understand that but I can understand the other side of the coin also. Why let someone post lies and why let other people who might not know better think those lies are the truth?
On this forum it is basically anything goes and it is what it is. Its sort of funny when I see posts about someone's movies or career or tributes on here and then they get upset when people go back to the person's death. Not just on this board but all of them. You get what you get when you come here and if the title of the site does not give you fair warning then you deserve what you get. On other sites like imdb which is public thousands post on there and read the threads. It is a big difference and I agree with this thread. Report the post and keep at it until it gets deleted. Freedom of speech works both ways.

 
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October 6 2011, 11:20 AM 

We are not in any real disagreement here, I can see what you are saying. I just perceive him as ridiculous and find it hard to believe anyone takes him seriously. I understand that he has done damage in the past, that was before my time here, but I haven't heard anyone accuse him of anything but stupidity for a long time. By all means, report him since you feel so strongly about it. If he crosses a serious barrier I will report him with you. Right now, he is just an irritant that can be controlled by the truth. That is why I often answer him. Not to feed his need for attention or craziness but because it is important to post the truth along side his repetitive lies. I think you're average reader can easily identify who is nuts.

 
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October 6 2011, 1:21 PM 

Take a look see through the posts on the thread titled moose isn't so loose anymore.
You will see his threats on there. He should be taken seriously. Anyone with that sort of unhinged terperment should be taken seriously.

 
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October 6 2011, 2:29 PM 

I think you mean "temperament". Dumb*ss.

 
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October 6 2011, 2:47 PM 

Report what Mr. Paul? Having a difference of opinion is not libel. Only libel and slander I see are the crazy and ill obsessed Wagner haters. They should be reported. The redhead only wanted fame and $$$$$$$$. She got neither except nutty and hate filled followers from this useless forum.

 
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October 6 2011, 4:31 PM 

The inmate has taken over the asylum.

 
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October 6 2011, 4:32 PM 

F ** K Off Jocko.

 
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October 6 2011, 8:43 PM 

I don't think I can add anything to that.

 
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October 7 2011, 4:57 AM 

"She got neither except nutty and hate filled followers from this useless forum."

Useless forum? Really? Doesn't say much for you then because you post on here non stop.

 
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October 7 2011, 9:58 AM 

Only people that post on here nonstop are the unemployed haters which really is about 2 people.

 
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October 7 2011, 10:23 AM 

You're one, who's the other?

 
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October 7 2011, 10:38 AM 

Why don't you tell us?

 
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October 7 2011, 11:52 AM 

I think RJ and Rick Perry look like twins! RJ could pass for Rick's age. He is so handsome! I love their conservative politics and their square manly jaws!
Hubba Hubba Ding Ding! RJ and Rick have everything!
They can ring my bell anytime!


 
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October 7 2011, 12:49 PM 

I think RJ and Rick Perry look like twins! RJ could pass for Rick's age. He is so handsome! I love their conservative politics and their square manly jaws!
Hubba Hubba Ding Ding! RJ and Rick have everything!
They can ring my bell anytime!




 
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October 7 2011, 11:54 AM 

He isn't unemployed. He just uses the taxpayer's money to post nonstop when he should be working.

 
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October 7 2011, 3:49 PM 

keep talking it tickles

 
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October 7 2011, 8:25 PM 

Does anyone else think RJ and Rick Perry look like twins? RJ could pass for Rick's age. He is so handsome! I love their conservative politics and their square manly jaws!
Hubba Hubba Ding Ding! RJ and Rick have everything!
They can ring my bell anytime!




 
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October 7 2011, 8:33 PM 

Wagner let his wife die.

 
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October 8 2011, 4:27 AM 

Wagner let his wife die.

I agree.

 
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October 8 2011, 8:44 AM 

Wagner and Davern let Natalie Wood die. For Davern it's fact by his own words as for Wagner in his book he admitted he should have done more and takes full responsibility. For Wagner it's a moral issue for Davern its just plain neglect and dereliction of duty.

 
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October 8 2011, 8:49 AM 

a moral issue for Davern its just plain neglect and dereliction of duty.

BULL ****! Wagner's boat! Wagner in charge! Wagner's wife!
You can blow your smoke and mirrors up your own *** anytime you want but the fact is Dennis Davern was a paid employee and a friend. That is all.

 
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October 8 2011, 9:17 AM 

Yes, let's blame the skipper and let the owner and THE HUSBAND of the victim a free ride. To any intelligent adult it would not make sense that the HUSBAND chose to NOT turn on any lights, chose NOT to begin searching, chose NOT to call anyone to search for her. How stupid are you people?

 
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October 8 2011, 9:38 AM 

This Wagger fan keeps asking why Smith did not see the bruises that Dennis saw. Why does Smith mention the nightgown but claim that he covered her with a disposable blanket, inferring that the nightgown had been removed, why didn't Smith not see the socks that were on her feet, why did Smith say he brought in the dinghy when he did not, why did Smith say that he removed her jacket when he did not? Why did Smith tell Garrett something totally different that he told Marti Rulli about what Wagner told him. That's what I question. But more than that, I question why Smith was demoted. None of the Waggy crew seems curious about that. Why was Smith demoted and told to leave the island. The demotion barred him from ever again doing the work that he was trained to do. What did he say that made the honchos on Catalina Island want him gone! He has already said that he felt that there was foul play in Natalie's death and because of that, his career changed forever. That is what I am curious about. Waggy fans are not curious about that because does not look good for their fair haired knight in shining armor. Wake up and smell the coffee. Robert Wagner has some dirty little secrets.

 
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October 8 2011, 1:24 PM 

Wagner let Natalie die. He was the only one who knew for sure she was in the water. Davern was just guessing. You keep pointing out to us that Davern never saw Natalie go in the water. THAT'S RIGHT. You can't have it both ways. Like any person who has been around boats, Dennis assumed that she might be in the water. Wagner KNEW she was in the water. He takes responsibility for nothing. He has lied about that night over and over through the years. He has no moral compass and if he did he still wouldn't use it to look for Natalie. WAGNER ALONE LET NATALIE DIE AND NO ONE BUT HE IS RESPONSIBLE. I mean really responsible not some PR statement designed to elicit more sympathy for him.

 
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October 8 2011, 1:33 PM 

They would blame anyone but Wagner. They would even blame each other if they knew he would come out squeaky clean.
Robert Wagner is a self inflated, arrogant, drunken hack actor who was so drunk, enraged with jealous anger and so full of himself that he left his wife die! The guy let her die!
Get it through your simple ******* brains! Whether he threw her in the water or she fell or whatever he knew she was in the water! HE KNEW IT YOU DUMB FOOLS!
Davern wasn't married to her and neither was Walken! ROBERT WAGNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NATALIE WOOD'S DEATH AND YOU CAN CRY INNOCENT ALL YOU WANT!
HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER AND HE LET HER DIE!

HE LET HER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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October 8 2011, 2:39 PM 

That's what Davern says, but we just caught Davern in a lie. Who to believe?

 
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October 8 2011, 2:52 PM 

You caught him in nothing! What lie? Dennis said he saw bruises. Smith said he did not see them. Smith also said that he brought in the dinghy, he did not. Smith also said that he removed Natalie's jacket, he did not. Smith said Natalie was not wearing socks. Natalie was wearing socks. Sounds like Smith is lying OR not remembering clearly. Smith did not even see the bruise on Natalie's face. Smith cannot say what Dennis did not see. On the witness stand Smith cannot testify to what someone else saw or did not see. Also Smith said that the first he learned of bruising was from Marti. The stories about the bruising were in all the newspapers and on national TV within days of Natalie's death. Why didn't he speak up and tell the world that he did not see bruises?

 
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October 10 2011, 10:30 AM 

Smith has no reason to lie. He wasn't wasted on drugs and booze. He's not getting money from a book he had his wannabe author buddy write. I'd say his memory is alot better than the heavy partier's memory. At least Smith had been to bed that night. Davern was still up & drinking from the early afternoon before.

 
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October 10 2011, 10:33 AM 

Yeah yeah yeah as the Beatles would sing. Everyone has lied except DD. What a crock. And you wonder why the LACSD ignores the book and the two so called authors.

 
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October 8 2011, 3:01 PM 

Wagner lies up to this day. He hasn't been caught in a lie, his lies are documented. Why do you believe him? You unravel your whole stupid argument when you accuse Davern of lying but gloss over all of Wagner's fabrications. The guy can't even keep his lies straight, he changes them as the situation dictates. Davern has not lied, he and Smith have a perception and memory discrepancy as happens on all cases. It's interesting that you think Smith is the honest one and not Davern. Why isn't Smith the liar? Everyone saw the bruises but him. Point is, neither of them are lying. They are each telling the truth as they saw it that night. Difference is, the officials back up Davern's version. No one backs up Wagner. Not the facts or the people who were there that night unless you count slumbering, lying in his teeth, protect my career at all costs, Walken.

 
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October 8 2011, 3:13 PM 

They will blame Davern because he OUTED Robert Wagner for exactly what he really is.
Robert Wagner let his wife die. I hope on judgement day Natalie is waiting for him to beat him all the way to Hell.

 
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October 10 2011, 10:31 AM 

Most people do not put any stock into a drunken memory by someone who drank for over 30 hours non stop and no sleep.

 
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October 10 2011, 10:49 AM 

Then why do Wagner's lies ring true for you? Wasn't he "drunk" too?

 
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October 10 2011, 10:27 AM 

<Davern has not lied>

He's admitted to lying. You need a fresh pair of rose colored glasses.

 
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October 10 2011, 10:53 AM 

Robert Wagner's boat. Robert Wagner's wife. Robert Wagner in charge. Robert Wagner let his wife die.

 
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October 10 2011, 11:06 AM 

Robert Wagner let his wife die.

Thanks, I get tired of saying it but it needs to permeate this whole blog so there can never be a troll statement that doesn't have that truth next to it. New readers won't be able to avoid that phrase and hopefully, will want to investigate further.

 
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October 10 2011, 11:18 AM 

The captain/skipper of The Splendour was drunk on his *ss and stoned, stupid and on pills the night Wood drowned. The captain/skipper did not turn on the search lights and search for his missing passenger. He says "he was told not to". He chose to drink for 4 or 5 more hours. A "mean" look from Wagner MR states is why he did not. So lame. DD was much much younger than Wagner and he should have looked for his missing passenger regardless of what anyone else on the boat he is in charge of should tell him.

 
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October 10 2011, 11:30 AM 

You've said this all before but here we go again. Not only was Mr. Davern not drunk off his ***, he was the only one who wanted and had the presence of mind to try to implement rescue procedures. Seems to me he was still willing and able to do his job. Who can override him? The owner of the boat. He is an employee of a yacht not captain of a ship where his word is law. It doesn't matter how much younger Dennis is, he could tell Wagner was in the psycho zone. You don't fool with people like that no matter what age they are. Wagner left his wife to die and there's not one thing you can do about it.

 
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October 10 2011, 12:56 PM 

Well, here we go again. Arguing that DD was not drunk is like saying the sky is not blue on a clear day. The detective dumbf*ck wrote this in his report. He didn't just say DD was drunk, he said he was filthy drunk and a disheveled drunken mess. You're trying to rewrite history that has already happened. Go read what Rasure wrote again. Davern wasn't drunk alright, he was totally f*cked up and wasted from drinking for over 30 hours, stoned on pot and his recreational pills.

 
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October 10 2011, 1:03 PM 

WAGNER LEFT HIS WIFE TO DIE

 
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October 10 2011, 1:06 PM 

Yeah, yeah. You think by printing that redundantly in caps and screaming it is going to change the facts? No proof of that and you know it. The police know it too. MR and DD look pretty foolish now after what Smith has stated for public record. Only shows them to be the money grabbers they are.

 
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October 10 2011, 1:10 PM 

It wasn't me, but I'm happy to see other people pick up the battle cry.

 
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October 10 2011, 1:13 PM 

Whoops, that was me that wrote that. Well, at least someone here can tell the truth.

 
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October 11 2011, 5:12 AM 

Wagner's boat. Wagner's wife. Wagner's call.
Wagner let his wife die.


 
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