It is disturbing that the "Captain" of the boat, who has complete authority, blames others for not conducting a proper search. Also, he keeps repeating "It's all in my book". In my opinion this new story doesn't pass the smell test.
Badger1969-1093248

So as boat captain aren't you in charge when on the water. If Wagner is responsible in some way for Woods death then so isn't the captain of the boat who didn't take appropriate action to try and find her. I don't care either way as it has no impact on me, most actors and actresses are just overpaid normal people who struggle to live reasonable lives anyway. they have money so they get to do things average people can't do and since the media follows everything they do we have to hear about it. Just saying Why is the boat captain bringing this out today. Haven't and won't read his book he tried that to make money off the death, must not have been enough so maybe he can get more now. At least that is how it looks to me.
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mike-3471823, with 14

Gee....Why is he coming out now?? Maybe needs some money?? He says he THINKS Wgner may have been responsible?? Wow...Just like many others THINK he may have been responsible, if you ain't got nothing but a might haves and I think sos, you got nothing....

Rob68, with 14

JCB-1236504

Liar, Liar pants on fire. This scumbag is a lying piece of crap. Another money hungry book seller. Disgusting!


#1.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:14 AM EST
Rick-3608408

Yep, this guy is so full of it, I guess he needs another drink, he looks like he should be in AA ....


#1.2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:22 AM EST
Chicago skeptic

Somehow I missed Robert Wagner's announcement that he is entering the Republican presidential primary race. Why else would this wino captain crawl out from under a rock and accuse him of committing a crime 30 years ago?


#1.3 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:32 AM EST
dave294

i always thought he was involved.... but now we have a captain who is equally as guilty for the death....

#1.4 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:33 AM EST
AnaBanana-1782128

I always wondered about Wagner's involvement when this happened. However the Captain was sober. (or at least I'm assuming so). They were drunk. It is always the Captain's responsibility on a ship to look for people if they are missing. Otherwise, why call yourself a captain? Might be just wanting 15 minutes of fame. This case is no different then Ed Kennedy's drunken date night that ended in a death.

#1.5 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:40 AM EST
F Walsh

No Dave, now we have a captain who we can't trust to tell the truth if he didn't 30 years ago. Just because the @!$%# is coming forward now doesn't mean anything at this point. Too little, too late.

#1.6 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:47 AM EST
Prohibition doesn't work

This was in '81, and it's front headlines for msnbc why exactly???

MSNBC, heres a newsflash for you: WHO THE HELL CARES!?!

#1.7 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:51 AM EST
Rob-1067535

Yes, this happened 30 years ago --but if this is true (which I hope it is not) then a crime was committed that night -- and this "captain' is as much @ fauilt (if not more so as Mr. Wagner). .

#1.8 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:01 AM EST
Up Uranus

MSNBC, heres a newsflash for you: WHO THE HELL CARES!?!

Apparently you do. Otherwise why did you take the time to read the article and comment on it?

Besides, Fox News cares about it as well. It's on their front page too. And I bet other outlets also. So stop the MSNBC bashing.

#1.9 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:05 AM EST
Highly Opionated

As I understand it, Natalie was going to take a shower on the boat, but instead washed up on the shore.

#1.10 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:09 AM EST
humansmatter

What part of Captain of the vessel does this guy not understand. He was responsible for THE VESSEL AND EVERYONE ON IT!!!

I saw an investigative report years ago on what happened to Natalie and it made perfect sense to me, having slept on my boat often.

We are in a nasty place in this country in so many ways. Lies are constantly accepted as truth and truth is covered up by the corporate spin mastering, air wave owning message RW message delivering media.

Everything is ruled by the almighty dollar and the pursuit of it. I

We need something akin to RADIO FREE EUROPE today.

#1.11 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:18 AM EST
JS in SD

I would not believe a word this guy says. Thirty years after the fact he is now changing his story!!! Could this have anything to do with trying to promote his new book!!! This guy is a lying piece of crap who is just looking to make some money by drumming up publicity to drive book sales. This guy should be locked up for making false statements to the police. Whether he is lying now or lied thirty years ago, he is still guilty of making false statements. If you believe what he is saying now, which I don't, then he is as a minimum guilty of obstruction of justice and being an accessory after the fact for covering up what happened. If he is lying now as I believe he is then he is guilty of making false statements to the police as well as slander and libel. No matter how you look at this piece of crap belongs in jail.


#1.12 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:32 AM EST
menscar14

After 30 years why beat a dead horse?

Did they ever recover natalies body?


Just about 100% of these comments are negative to Davern and Rulli. Whoever said not many people believe her death was an accident didn't know what they were talking about. Here's proof that more than the majority do not believe a word Davern says or Rulli. There's 543 comments & 98% are negative against Davern's interview. Rulli sure has put on a lot of weight and dyed her hair a different color.

We've seen all of this. Most of the people who respond in that manner know nothing about the case. They don't know how Mr. Wagner has been lying for 30 years. There will be a press conference at 11AM and the professionals will discuss it rather than a bunch of arm chair detectives who did not know who Dennis Davern was before they saw him this morning. Did you leave out the statement about the huge rumor that was going around about Natalie finding Wagner and Walken together. That one was mentioned on a few websites.

Go back to work, Jocko. Your boss will see you.

Raider-4158022

It's so disturbing to see the media latch on to a story like this. All these headlines meant to grab your attention. Then you read further just to learn that this "captain" is OBVIOUSLY looking to profit from this.

The only thing they should be investigating is whether to hold this "captain" liable for negligence.

#1.16 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:47 AM EST
Raider-4158022

When did the AP start acting like the paparazzi? 20 years ago this would story would ONLY have been printed in the National Enquire. Today it's a lead story on all MAJOR news outlets.

Our News Media need to get back to journalism basics.

#1.18 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:56 AM EST
Ambro-2949304

Why did he wait so long to tell the truth? Duh, because he could have been prosecuted too! There is no statute of limitation on murder but there is on being an idiot and not looking for someone that had fallen overboard (been pushed overboard) the boat you were captain of. He waited long enough so that he would not be charged. Now, the publishers of his book have him back out front because they have a warehouse full of books that didn't sell two years ago they want to make the money back that they fronted him for his story in the first place. The 30th anniversary of her death is really quite convenient for not only the captain, but also the writer and publisher. If you ask me, the captain didn't seem all that interested in telling his story, but his appearance was most likely part of the publishers contract he signed when he got paid for his story.

#1.19 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:58 AM EST
spider-737231

And tell me again, Captain, exactly why you waited 30 years to bring this up!

#1.20 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:01 AM EST
Rob-1067535

I agree -- but all media is the same today -- unlike back in 1981. And if this guy's story is really true (which again I do not really believe) then a crime was comitted 30 years ago -- a cover up followed and some kind of justice must be done -- I think that it is much more likely that this is just a case of a guy trying to promote a book to make a few bucks after all these year.

#1.21 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:01 AM EST
Jemma77

I am amazed that people don't even read the documents. Go to TMZ and read the statements. Several have taken polygraph tests too. Then decide. Yes, the captain should not have let Wagner's celebrity influence his actions. The captain failed Natalie. But it looks like her husband was directly responsible for her death. The boat next door heard a slurring man say "hold on, we're coming to get you". And obviously no one helped her.

#1.22 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:04 AM EST
mozzie-600

Rob - I agree. People have moved on from this.

#1.23 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:04 AM EST
ann-4041632

Ambro-2949304, This wouldn't be Cheech, would it? Your explanation is very plausible, although I do not know the limitations on the captain's legal accountability for not trying to save Natalie. It stinks that there even exists a statute of limitations. If the capatain is admitting that he purposely did not act to protect his passenger, and that he lied to officials, he should be punished, regardless of whatever else comes out in the investigation.

#1.24 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:07 AM EST
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witchrunner

I do believe that the guy pretty much admitted that he shouldn't be listened to.

"At that time my life was just totally crazy, and I don't think it was a time when I was even able to think straight," Davern said.

Please tell me how, if he was so messed up then and couldn't think straight, he could all of a sudden be clear about it now. The fact is that if you are in a drug induced stupor where you are not thinking straight, then your memory remains the drug induced stupor. So, the bottom line is that he admits lying, admits he was messed up, admits it's just his opinion that Wagner did it, admits he has no evidence, admits that he has written a book and admits that if people want to know his details, they should buy the book and read it. Sounds pretty clear to me what should be done with this "new" information.

#2.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:30 AM EST
Skup

If you buy his book it explains it all.

#2.2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:32 AM EST
F Walsh

What was he doing piloting a boat if he couldn't think straight even. I agree, if Natalie was murdered someone should pay for it but at this point, they won't. This guy can't be trusted at all. If I even had a suspicion that someone was murdered on my boat no one could get me to shut up about it when it happened, I wouldn't wait 30 years.

#2.3 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:49 AM EST
cookykamp

Let me get this straight...the book has been out 2 years and it is obviously not selling. Hmmm, sounds like a ploy to bump up book sales to me.

Reply#3 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:51 AM EST
Logic4U

Most everyone thought it should be looked into...everyone except the police.

#3.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:08 AM EST
John Meza

Its the Ole "fall off the boat hit your head and drown" It's been years that many of us suspected Wagner. There is no proof now but a boat captain who lied to cover it up. And now just wants money, nothing made sense when this was reported. The rich man was never investigated. Natalie was a breathtaking actress. She had many fans. Wagner should be the one writing a book "if I did it" No not all of us think it was a accident. I'm sure it was not premeditated or they would have been in the middle of the Ocean. The Captain should be charged as well.

#3.4 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:08 AM EST
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ralph396-2103787

Sounds like the good Captain wants a book deal for Christmas this year.

Reply#4 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:51 AM EST
Pat Foster

Sounds like the captain is trying to sell books and not interested in telling the story. Why else would he not answer the question?

#4.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:11 AM EST
Skup

He already wrote the book 2 years ago. It just wasn't selling hence the need to drum up a little publicity.

#4.2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:34 AM EST
Linda M-311663

My thoughts exactly, Skup!

#4.3 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:59 AM EST
ohiofan

Seriously???? After all these years? Someone should have done their job correctly when all this happened!!! I guess this is what happens when two celebrities are in trouble - nothing.

#5.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:55 AM EST
Penaten

I don't buy what this "Capt" is trying to sell. He lied during hie interrogation then and should be charged with perjury. He is trying to sell a book. Has to have good story. I don't buy it. If he lied then he certainly is lying now 30yrs later!!!!!

#5.2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:15 AM EST
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Rob68

Gee....Why is he coming out now?? Maybe needs some money?? He says he THINKS Wgner may have been responsible?? Wow...Just like many others THINK he may have been responsible, if you ain't got nothing but a might haves and I think sos, you got nothing....

Reply#6 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:51 AM EST
VK-921891

I was wondering the SAME thing ... he must need money and couldn't get it from Wagner

#6.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:05 AM EST
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Jake-3782984

My how well a memory of a tragic event suddenly comes back when there is money involved, this so called captain is looking for his 15 minutes of fame, probably broke or owes a lot of money to ex-wives or other loose women, so now all of a sudden he wants to blame Robert Wagner, and stir up a lot of problems for everyone, it is amazing how greed brings out old "tainted" memories on these events. Sheriffs dept, should shelve it, and let the captain slide back in to obscurity.

Reply#7 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:51 AM EST
Ross-481973

I smell BS all over this guy.

Reply#8 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:52 AM EST
MtlDeath

Annnnnnnnnnnnddd, whatever

Reply#9 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:52 AM EST
SU-Phil

I recall thinking something was amiss; that the investigation was too short; that the accidental death ruling seemed convenient and plausible, given the players involved. I recall thinking it was the rich, famous, and powerful folk manipulating again.

Reply#10 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:52 AM EST
Rob-1067535

I too remember when this happended and thinking back then that there was more to the story. So.. there might in fact be some "merit" to re-opening the investation (and if the LA Police are doing that -- they must agree).. That said, this could very well just be another cae of someone trying to "cash in' and promote a book after all these years. I know Robert wagner has already commented on this new information -- but I do not recall what Mr. Walken had to say about this back then -- or is reaction to tis new story. the article mentioned he released a statement -- but does nto say what it was (was that a typo?). Anyway.. i hope the truth come out -- whatever it is. Like all people I am sure Ms. Wood was not perfect --(they have implies she was drunk) but she was a fine actress in her time.

#11.2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:31 AM EST
gdsmithtx

What a load of uninformed, unsupported, conspiracy-laden gibberish. Glenn Beck, is that you?

Now we know first hand why Marti Rulli wouldn't allow Dennis to conduct interviews. He's terrible!! Comes off as so uncredible and suspicious. I don't think the guy at MSNBC interviewing him believed a word he said. If Davern is the smoking gun, then Houston, we have a big problem!

He was interviewed live for the Today show. What was shown on MSNBC was from the Today. Get your facts straight, Jocko.

Soon enough we will hear from the cold case detectives who are investigating this case. The professionals who do this for a living rather than a bunch or moronic trolls who know nothing about the case.

gibson-3477942

i really believe and have always believed that it was an accident. This captain wrote a book, trying to sell books in my opinion. We all loved Natalie, and I do not believe that there was every intent or murder.

Reply#13 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 AM EST
thinkaboutit-298342

pa-leeez! looser trying to make a buck....how convenient its on the 30th anniversary. Everything you read on the internet isn't so, and ditto for 'tell it all' books.

Reply#14 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 AM EST
Bluelake

This whole story stinks. This guy is out for something and I doubt its justice. Does he have any thirty year old info on Jerry Sandusky as well?? It's all about $$$

Reply#15 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 AM EST
Badger1969-1093248

It is disturbing that the "Captain" of the boat, who has complete authority, blames others for not conducting a proper search. Also, he keeps repeating "It's all in my book". In my opinion this new story doesn't pass the smell test.

Reply#16 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 AM EST
Pointless1

I'm sure the captain got a nice payoff at the time of the incident as well..

#16.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:10 AM EST
lccomo

The captain of the vessel was of authority and as such, it was his responsibility to do what was necessary at the time regarding any search efforts and, his responsibility alone - not a passenger (even if the passenger was the boat owner).

#16.2 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:31 AM EST
Rob-1067535

Exactly. This is true -- especially if he was really a professional "captain" -- that is what they are trained to do and get paid for. They are in charge of the craft and are suppose to have the training, knowledge and expertise -- and authority to run the vessel. Either this guy is not being honest now -- was paid off back then -- or is admitting he is not and was not a real captain. Something stinks about this whole thing.

Dobiehawks

If he isn't in it for the profit, you don't think he'd write a book about it and then 2 years later do interviews about it.

Reply#17 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 AM EST
lesmainsvides

I never thought her death was an accident.

#18.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:55 AM EST
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#18.3 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:18 AM EST
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Reply#19 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:54 AM EST
OBXRon

The good captain waited 30 YRS to come up with this pre-holiday scheme to get on TV and get a holiday bonus?? Something fishy about this captain and it isn't from being on a boat.

Reply#20 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:54 AM EST
mike-3471823

So as boat captain aren't you in charge when on the water. If Wagner is responsible in some way for Woods death then so isn't the captain of the boat who didn't take appropriate action to try and find her. I don't care either way as it has no impact on me, most actors and actresses are just overpaid normal people who struggle to live reasonable lives anyway. they have money so they get to do things average people can't do and since the media follows everything they do we have to hear about it. Just saying Why is the boat captain bringing this out today. Haven't and won't read his book he tried that to make money off the death, must not have been enough so maybe he can get more now. At least that is how it looks to me.

Reply#21 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:54 AM EST
omg-1793371

I mean Really look at this Azz hat Lets make money off of death... ( NO I DO NOT WANT TO MAKE MONEY) But he mentions his Book 2 times in his story.... That NO one bought, What a Dumb Azz Run down A great man,,, And What are they going to prove she drowned at sea did he hold her head down If not then you got nothing dumb Azz.....

#23.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:02 AM EST
rylie

The interview is almost comical! I agree with most other comments, A captain is in charge of HIS boat while in the water! Isn't he supposed to be the law out there??? What kind of through investigation is really going to happen 30 years later, especially one that happened at sea???

Dave-309982

This smells almost as fishy as the waters off the coast of California.

Reply#24 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:55 AM EST
Allie Foster

Sounds like the Captain is seeking fame and forture!!!! And who can verify this version? If what he says is true, he is equally culpable, as he did NOTHING to find her - Badger is correct, he was the Captain and in charge!!!!

Reply#25 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:56 AM EST

Even someone as dense as Jocko should be able to see that Dennis was instructed not to answer certain questions. This is a cold case homicide investigation that is being taken very seriously by the professionals. They are aware of more than the general public is aware of.

These aren't moronic trolls. These are simply people giving their opinion. It is fact that there is a very small percentage of people out there that believe Davern's story. Check out the comments from all the articles written and 95% of them do not believe Davern and feel the book was written for profit.

<Soon enough we will hear from the cold case detectives who are investigating this case. The professionals who do this for a living rather than a bunch or moronic trolls who know nothing about the case.>


We heard from the professionals 30 years ago. Why does this have to be dragged up again? With taxpayer money footing the bill?

This is not a cold case. The LA Sheriff's Dept is going to take another look at it. It was a solved case.

It was a closed case. It was re-opened as a cold case. It is being investigated by the cold case squad. They solve cases going back much further than 30 years. I guess you didn't know that, that was not posted on MSNBC.

People always form opinions based on their scant knowledge of something. It doesn't mean anything. Let the facts speak for themselves.

Look who is worried about the tax payers! Rather hypocritical, wouldn't you say.

We'll see how they feel as the investigation progresses. We've got a long way to go, a lot of info is to be revealed, info that the general public of today is not aware of. A 30 year old closed case is not re-opened on what one person said. To believe otherwise is moronic. If I had the spare time you seem to have I could post comments from people who stated that they always felt that Natalie's death was not an accident, that they always suspected Wagner. I guess when one works for the town as you do, one has plenty of time to scan the internet and do as he pleases while the tax payers struggles to keep their homes out of foreclosure. What a headline that would make in an election year!

I've been following this case for all of the 30 years since Natalie Wood died. I thought she was murdered, but--like other people have said--the facts don't show that. This case was investigated 30 years ago and this all seems silly to do over again.

Jocko, go back to work. The constant posting as different people is not going to change the fact that the case has been re-opened and is being thoroughly re-investigated. Obviously they know something you don't know which would not be difficult.

Sounds like a lot of people are running scared and they think a million word post will make it go away.
Suck it up Wagner dishrags!

don't put all your pigs in one pen davern was bbq'd on the today show once a liar always a liar and he proved it once again everyone on the net commenting says liar and profiteer

Doesn't matter. The LACSD doesn't agree with them and their opinion is the only one that matters.

Dennis looked terrific on the 48Hrs clip. He has this thing called a beard. Look it up. He has always had a beard. As for his clothes, he looked fine to me. Neat and clean.

Neat and clean? Which interview did you watch? He looked like a cave man with glasses on. He looked like a poor homeless person in need of money desperately.

Heard they are going to Hawaii to look at the Splendour wasn't that Bayspices key issue?, I guess they really did review all statement submitted, we CAN trust the LACSD

Yes, I heard that also.

I wonder how many of those comments are from Jocko using his multiple e-mail addresses. Many of them have his idiotic ring to them. It must be nice to work for the town and get paid to do nothing as the hard working taxpayers struggle to get by.

nice try but no cigar. all those 543 emails are genuine.

I just viewed one of the interviews with Davern. The poor man is so clearly uncomfortable being in the spotlight. Unfortunately, most people who are ignorant about the case would view him as lying. Rulli tried to clarify and was making some good headway when the interviewer went back to Dennis and got the same uncomfortable responses. Being on satellite feed is what really hurt him. It made it look like he was struggling to make up answers. The average viewer isn't going to think about the fact that he has to take time after the question to hear the feed. I would hate to see this case lose credibility because viewers make snap judgements about Rulli and Davern's lack of polish in front of the cameras. If I were them I would lay low and let the LACSD do all the talking. TO CLARIFY FOR THE TROLL: THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH BUT THEIR LACK OF EXPERIENCE IN THE MEDIA MAKES THEM LOOK UNCOMFORTABLE AND THAT ALWAYS MAKES PEOPLE SUSPICIOUS. So spare me and stfu with your usual nonsense.

Kinda, sorta makes the news of Waggy throwing a hissy at A.A. Gill for his **** hole review of Chez L'Ami Louis sound like a toddler's tantrum.

If Davern's really telling the truth (now) why was he squirming so much? He definitely is not helping Rulli. He might have shaved that Neanderthal beard just a bit LOL. Maybe covered up the Dumbo ears and taken the hideous cap off.

John Piller at 8:44 AM November 18, 2011

If the yacht captain lied during the original testimony and has now recanted his story to tell the truth, couldn't he now be guilty of perjury and a possible accessory to a murder crime charge?

Why would this captain lie all these years jeopardizing his self and holding an unconscionable moral secret that he supposedly has had to live with, but now wants to tell the World?

This reads like an attempt at some sort of monetary gain at the expense of Robert Wagner and possibly Christopher Walken.

Honestly, if these allegation turn out to be truly false then this yacht captain should be thrown in jail with a stiff sentence for making “false statements to police authorities”.

Davern knows full well what he is setting himself up for yet he still chooses to get justice for Natalie. Give him credit for that. Wagner and Walken would suffer the same perjury fate only they'll never man up and say they lied. Guess they'll just have to use Wagner's book against him.

Really? And what if the statements are 100 percent true? Then what?
Will we see you all crying that poor Wagner is too old and feeble to go to jail?
It works both ways!

Davern will be on Nancy Grace tonight. I hope he is more comfortable but who could be with Nancy?

<John Piller at 8:44 AM November 18, 2011

If the yacht captain lied during the original testimony and has now recanted his story to tell the truth, couldn't he now be guilty of perjury and a possible accessory to a murder crime charge?

Why would this captain lie all these years jeopardizing his self and holding an unconscionable moral secret that he supposedly has had to live with, but now wants to tell the World?

This reads like an attempt at some sort of monetary gain at the expense of Robert Wagner and possibly Christopher Walken.

Honestly, if these allegation turn out to be truly false then this yacht captain should be thrown in jail with a stiff sentence for making “false statements to police authorities”.>

Nobody can prove they're false. Rulli and Davern knew that going in. It was all about the money. It always is. Dennis Davern can just say that that is the way he remembers it. You can't go to jail for that.

Glad to hear that the LACSD is not even considering what is in Rulli's ridiculous book.

I don't think Davern ever thought it would get this far. I think they did it as a publicity stunt and they thought they would be turned down.

<TO CLARIFY FOR THE TROLL: THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH BUT THEIR LACK OF EXPERIENCE IN THE MEDIA MAKES THEM LOOK UNCOMFORTABLE AND THAT ALWAYS MAKES PEOPLE SUSPICIOUS>

Hasn't Dennis Davern been telling this story to the media in some form or another for many years?
Why is he struggling to come up with the answers this late in the game?

Interesting how many hundreds and hundreds, soon to be thousands, etc., find fault that the Captain did not search for her no matter what he was supposedly told. I said before nothing Rulli says can excuse him. Davern looks bad putting all the blame on the boat owner when he was the captain and it was his job. Makes him look like and I quote "an azz".

What do you people expect the police to say. This is the precise reason why they asked Marti Rulli to be discreet and delay the notification that the case was being re-investigated. They did not want to deal with the media. They knew the press would be all over this and they are.

I wonder when Robert Wagner will go on national television and admit that he lied to the police. I'll tell you when. Never! He will be protected by his publicists and lawyers while Dennis puts himself out there and bares his soul.

One of the MSNBC comments asks why Davern did not try to search for Natalie Wood. From witness statements we know that Robert Wagner was inebriated. Dennis Davern claims he wasn't, and that would seem to have made it more of Davern's responsibility to take charge if Wagner was that drunk. But I don't find Dennis Davern credible to begin with.

But you find Robert Wagner credible. He's been lying for 30 years.

I am more curious about what these detectives were told that made them decide to take another look at this case. I think it goes far beyond Dennis Davern.

<What do you people expect the police to say. This is the precise reason why they asked Marti Rulli to be discreet and delay the notification that the case was being re-investigated. They did not want to deal with the media. They knew the press would be all over this and they are.>

I don't think the LACSD has any problem handling the media. Big departments like that one are adept at dealing with the media--that is the least of their problems. It was because of the enormous amount of cases the have to handle.

They did not want to deal with the media, that was the main reason for the delay in notifying the public that the case was re-opened. That's a fact. This is enormous and they knew it would be.

This is enormous? LMAO

They have something. They cannot and will not come out and blab about what they have.

Walken has retained an attorney.

Wouldn't a big celebrity like Walken already have had an attorney?

Yes. A dept like LA Sheriff's dept deals with the media on a daily basis, and on much bigger cases than this. That is no biggie for them.

I don't know if that is true, but Walken can lawyer up all he wants he's still going to look like a douche.

OMG, what did Walken do? Now he's a suspect?

I think Walken stopped Dennis Davern from turning on the lights? LMAO.

Man, I hope Dennis Davern is not around if I'm ever on a boat and I slip and fall in the water.

I hope Robert Wagner is not around.

I don't know but he hired a lawyer. The press will be all over all of these people, they will follow the tracks. Walken's tracks lead to a news that he retained an attorney.

Walken lied in the original police report. He knows that he lied. Hence, the big budget attorney.

The LACSD says that Wagner is not a suspect and Walken is not a suspect. That only leaves one person.

Holy ****. Wouldn't that be a blast if they arrest Davern? lol.

Can't you see the dept. holding a new press conference announcing that they have arrested their number one witness. Ha, ha!

I don't think that will happen. That is highly unlikely.

Why? Davern admitted he lied and he admitted he did nothing to help Natalie.

You know, I think this is a great example of why some people become very successful (e.g. Wagner and Walken) and others remain boat bums (e.g. Davern). It's the way you approach life.

So did Robert Wagner. So did Christopher Walken. There is a statute of limitations involved which would make arresting any of the 3 men on charges of withholding evidence an impossibility or lying to the authorities. Murder is the only charge that remains where there is no statute of limitations. The first one to publicly admit that he lied was Dennis Davern. That was only a few short years after Natalie died. It took RJ 20 years to make the admission. Walken has never admitted that he lied. I'm sure, however, that it will be a topic when he is interviewed by the police.

I think you missed the point. There was no murder...no murder at all. But a person like Davern can't let it go. He's the type that has to make something out of it. He's like a little child who can't see or understand the truth, so he keeps on and on until you just can't take him any more.
That's what I meant by his approach to life. It is the difference between Wagner/Walken and Davern.

Those girls on those RJ and Natalie groups are silent on them but they are certainly making up for it on here aren't they ******* and ***?

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The case was solved 30 years ago. They should have let sleeping dogs lie.

No murder? We'll see. The case is being re-investigated and that will take a while. Dennis did not re-open the investigation. The LASD re-opened the investigation. I doubt that they would do so based on what one person told them.

There isn't that much to reinvestigate. The Detective said they will look at the new information (and how that pertains to the case), so we don't know how long that will be. The thing that will really hold them up is that they have so many cases to work on. It is a very busy Dept.

The case is listed under Natalie Wagner. It is being investigated by the Unsolved Cases Unit(they don't refer to the unit as Cold Cases).

The case is being investigated by cold case detectives.

The following is taken from the LACSD homepage, These are the three units in the Homicide Division.
I have talked to the detectives at the LACSD. I was told by them that they do not refer to these cases as cold cases. They told me there is no Cold Case Unit. Natalie's case is handled by the "Unsolved Cases Unit." You'll have to argue with the LACSD.

Forget what the newspaper article said. The LA Times also reported (today) that Natalie's body was found floating in the ocean and that the dinghy was found "beached." Don't believe everything you read. I thought I tought you guys that already. Ha, ha.


"
Homicide Bureau consists of the following support Units/Sections:

New Cases Unit

Missing Persons Unit

Unsolved Cases











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New Cases Unit:

Cases investigated by this bureau involve:

Accidental deaths
Homicides

Natural deaths (Coroner cases)

Suicides

Abortions (illegal)

Missing juveniles when there is suspicion of foul play; or missing over 30 days

Missing and unidentified persons (adults)

Shootings involving Department personnel that result in injury or death

Found human remains.

Missing Persons Unit:
Responsibilities and duties performed by this unit include:
Investigating missing persons who are 18 years and older
Investigating found persons cases
Assisting Homicide Bureau in the identification of John and Jane Does
Assisting stations in identifying found "Doe" children
Assisting other agencies with missing/found persons
Managing a publicity program where missing children's pictures are publicized nationwide in an attempt to locate
Checking the accuracy of computer entries on missing children


Unsolved Cases Unit: No homicide investigated by the Sheriff's Department is ever closed until it is resolved. Long after the original case investigators may have retired or otherwise left the bureau, every clue or lead is investigated by this unit."

Believe what you choose to believe. There is a cold case division of the LASD and they are investigating Natalie's case. I'm sure as time goes on this will be revealed.

The Cold Case Unit is part of the Homicide Unit of the LASD.

Why do you always make me do this to you?

There are NO Cold Case Detectives at the LACSD.

There is NO Cold Case Unit at the LACSD.

The unit is called "Unsolved Cases Unit." They men and women who work that unit are called plain old "Detectives."

The phone number for the Homicide Divison at the LACSD is" 323-890-5500. Please, be my guest and check for yourself.

That deserves a double Oy, Oy!

You don't know what you are talking about. There is a Cold Case Unit within the Homicide Bureau of the LASD. There are archives of cases listed that the Cold Case unit has solved, the name of the Lieutenant who heads the department is named. Your insistence that there is no such department is comical. Do some research and you will find that yes indeed there is a cold case unit in the Homicide Bureau of the LA Sheriff's Department. Is is so difficult for you to admit that you are WRONG? Obviously.

and here is the phone number for the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, Homicide Bureau's Cold Case Unit is 323-890-5000. Pick up a cloth and wipe the egg off your face


Sheriff's Cold Case Unit
Homicide Bureau
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department
(323) 890-5500

Earth to Rulli's Rodents, there is NO COLD CASE UNIT. There are NO COLD CASE DETECTIVES.

I called earlier to verify (and I was right). The officer who answered the phone confirmed that there is/are NO COLD CASE UNIT, FILES OR DETECTIVES.

I only keep at this for those who might take you seriously. NOTHING you say about this case can be taken seriously. YOU ARE A JOKE.

BTW, that makes three people at the LACSD who have told me there is NO COLD CASE ANYTHING at the LACSD (over the last month).

"Sheriff's Cold Case Unit
Homicide Bureau
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department
(323) 890-5500"


LOL. OK, that is funny and I'm having a good laugh.

You will never admit that you are wrong. It's quite obvious that you have a problem with that. I know that I am right because I have read countless archives from the Cold Case Dept. of the LASD. One being the Joseph Azevedo case which was handled by Cold Case Homicide Detective Joe Purcell of the LASD

"You will never admit that you are wrong. It's quite obvious that you have a problem with that. I know that I am right because I have read countless archives from the Cold Case Dept. of the LASD. One being the Joseph Azevedo case which was handled by Cold Case Homicide Detective Joe Purcell of the LASD"

You are right...I am wrong.

I only got it from the horse's mouth...the LACSD. But, as always, you know better.

There is no Cold Case Unit listed on their website and they don't have cold case detectives and they (the LACSD) INSIST they don't have a cold case dept. But, you , as always, are right.


You are a DINGBAT! (I think that is fair to say).

This has to be GOSSIP GIRL.
You've got to get out of that recliner once in a while and see what the REAL world is like.

Yes. I know better and soon enough you will too. They have a cold case unit with their Homicide dept.

I have not called you childish names, I would appreciate it if you would do the same.

Not when I've proved to you that the LACSD has NO cold case dept. You refuse after PROOF was given.
I call them as I see them.

You proved nothing because I know better.

If you knew better you would know the OP is right.

I urge anyone who had a doubt to do the research. There is a cold case unit in the homicide bureau of the LASD.

There is NOTHING statistically significant about anonymous comments on an internet forum. NOTHING.

So the OP, who copied and pasted them all, may as well just THROW THEM OUT.

I could have suspicions about a poster who writes comments that jibe with Robert Wagner's press release about re-opening the case based on people who want to profit. How much did Wagner gain after Natalie's death or did he give it all to charity? (I'm not saying he intentionally murdered her for money but he could be looked at with the same suspicion.)

If what happened to Natalie was truly an accident, then there should be nothing to fear.

Instead of posting about Marilyn allegedly referring to her boyfriend as her husband in one account of the story and as her boyfriend in another, WHY DON'T YOU THINK IT STRANGE THAT A MAN WHO WAS SO MADLY IN LOVE WITH HIS WIFE, NATALIE, WOULD TAKE UP SO SOON WITH ANOTHER WOMAN. Some cultures have the decency to grieve for at least a year.

Wagner didn't marry ST John until 1990. That was 9 (NINE) years after Natalklie died.

GEEZ. I guess he should have waited some more time, right?

But Robert started dating her in early 1982, FOOL!

Was it also a fact that Robert Wagner called to check on rescue times for the Isthmus as opposed to Avalon.?? Why was he so intent on moving the boat there when Dennis saw no reason for it and Natalie did not want to ? There are so many unanswered questions and possible hidden agendas in all this. The lack of a rescue helicopter response from Avalon played a part in not finding her sooner. Also, RJ's boat had underwater radar equipment that he did not use as well a a simple spotlight. Why??? He certainly understood about hypothermia in such cold water and knew speed was important in finding if she was in mortal danger.... Did he care or not??? At that point, with Walken aboard, one wonders....

It sounds like he wanted to move there because there were less crowds for him to be embarrassed by. I think Natalie being with Walken embarrassed Wagner. There were rumors of the two having an affair, at the time.

I thought I read he wanted to move boat there to go fishing the next day. He oviously didnt realize th danger doing it at that time.