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Harbermaster speeks on today show

November 30 2011 at 12:41 AM
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http://scoop.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/29/9091638-natalie-wood-clung-to-dinghy-after-going-overboard-says-harbormaster

there is a video as well.

 
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November 30 2011, 1:51 AM 


He says it was difficult getting information out of them at first because they were slurring their words...big surprise. They were all too drunk to know that Natalie had fallen into the water and was in trouble.

It was a case of four very drunk people and the night ending in tragedy. Natalie fell because she was very drunk, too. Everyone always wants to make more out of it when a celebrity is involved.

Davern and Rulli exploited the situation so they could make money. Wonderful thing to do.

 
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November 30 2011, 2:13 AM 

actually he said it was difficult to get info from them because they slurred their words. He did not say that Miss Wood fell in the water He did that if help had been summoned sooner, Natalie would have been saved.

 
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November 30 2011, 6:23 AM 


Of course Natalie might have been saved had they searched earlier, but earlier they thought she was in bed. When Wagner did discover she was gone, so was the dinghy. Wagner thought she was in the dinghy. Why would Wagner think Natalie was in the water if the dinghy was missing?

This is all so ridiculous. Davern did nothing at the time, as well. Now, he says Wagner should have acted sooner. All BS. They were both so drunk that they didn't know what was going on.

Davern and Rulli are despicable people. They have exploited a terrible tragedy, for their own benefit. They have taken this tragedy and have not let go of it for three decades.

How can you think of these people as decent people...you can't.

 
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November 30 2011, 6:38 AM 

Because he knew his wife was petrified of deep, dark water and that the chances of her going for a ride in a dinghy in the black of night wearing a nightgown were slim to none.

 
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November 30 2011, 6:44 AM 

If he did not know what was going on he would not have instructed the original search crew to keep the search "low key". He knew exactly what was going on.

 
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November 30 2011, 6:49 AM 



No,wrong. No search crew is going to listen to a husband if they suspect a woman is in the water. None of them, Davern, Wagner and Oudin knew she was in the water. They thought she was in the dinghy. The dinghy was missing. Makes perfect sense why there was no urgency about it.

It is so easy to say all kinds of things after the fact.

There was no murder, there was no manslaughter. It was just an accident.

 
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November 30 2011, 6:52 AM 



They didn't know she was wearing her nightgown.

And, she was wearing that coat...you can't get around that jacket.

Being in a dinghy is not the same thing as being in the water. Natalie had no problem being on the boat or in the dinghy.

Big difference between being in the water and being in the dinghy.

 
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November 30 2011, 6:54 AM 

According to Robert Wagner, he saw her in the nightgown. Also, he was asked by the search crew to describe what she was wearing the last time he saw her, he described the nightgown in detail. He knew she was wearing a nightgown.

 
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November 30 2011, 6:56 AM 

Natalie would never have gone near that dinghy at night and Wagner knew it and said as much in his book.

 
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November 30 2011, 7:06 AM 



Natalie was very intoxicated. Natalie had her coat on.

Natalie was most definitely doing something with the dinghy.

Only Natalie knows. Being that intoxicated, it makes perfect sense that she lost her balance.

As hard as you try to make it so, there just wasn't any involvement by Wagner. What happened to Natalie appears to be Natalie's fault.

The police and Choi and Noguchi got the right answer 30 years ago.

 
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November 30 2011, 7:09 AM 

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According to Robert Wagner, he saw her in the nightgown. Also, he was asked by the search crew to describe what she was wearing the last time he saw her, he described the nightgown in detail. He knew she was wearing a nightgown. "


That was the last time he saw her. That doesn't mean they knew she was wearing that when they saw the dinghy missing and thought she took it out. Turns out she put her jacket on over her nightgown anyway.

Why would anyone think Natalie was in the water when they saw the dinghy missing.

You are trying to make it look all so sinister when it was not.

 
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November 30 2011, 7:44 AM 

but Noguchi changed his "answer". When he wrote his book he claimed that he no longer felt that Natalie was boarding that dinghy. He claimed that he felt that she was re-tying the dinghy and slipped on the algae on the swim step and fell into the water, grabbed on to the dinghy and fought a valiant fight to paddle to shore.

 
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November 30 2011, 8:10 AM 



Natalie was doing something with the dinghy. What she was doing is a theory. Only Natalie would know the answer to that.

The more important point is that all evidence points to an accident.

Natalie had that down jacket on which shows she was not going to bed. She went outside to do something with the dinghy.

Because she was so intoxicated she slipped and fell off of the boat. No big mystery there.

 
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November 30 2011, 8:19 AM 

Then why did Wagner LIE to the police? He didn't see the dinghy missing when he asked Davern to search the yacht? Uhmmm...sounds like a perfect time to release the dinghy. Davern caught him in action sounds like to me.

 
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November 30 2011, 8:27 AM 



Davern? You mean the Davern who says he saw all of Natalie's black and blue marks through the blanket that was put over her body?

Davern's story is made up.

 
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November 30 2011, 8:34 AM 

but the lies that were told point to a cover up. Too many lies were told by too many people. And then there are the statements that are being made to the press. I'm sure these statements are being read by the police as the list of people they plan to question grows and grows. There is one statement by one person that I am sure the police are very curious about.

 
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November 30 2011, 8:47 AM 



No. Just a bunch of drunk people who couldn't remember things and who really didn't know what was going on when they realized Natalie wasn't on the boat. That is why Davern's story is just not to be believed. Davern was much too drunk to know with such clarity, the things written in GNGS. Those things sound like they were made up...probably by Rulli. Davern gave some details (like the bottle smashing) and Rulli filled in the rest. That's what it reads like to me. It was written to make it appear Wagner did something sinister.

Nobody wanted Natalie dead. That is the lovely Davern and Rulli expltoiting the circumstances of that weekend.

They are not the first people to do such a lousy thing, and I'm sure they won't be the last. What money does to people.

 
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November 30 2011, 9:01 AM 

I agree with the previous poster...alcohol city. Damn, though, I think I missed the interview.

 
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November 30 2011, 9:01 AM 

No, the people making the statements were not drunk. You are obsessed with Davern and Rulli. They have nothing to do with a statement that was made to the media that the police will undoubtedly look into. Very incriminating indeed and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Rulli or Davern.

Wagner made himself look sinister. He made some poor choices that he will have to live with, those choices are coming back to bite him in the *** and will follow him to his grave. I don't expect you to comprehend any of this as you have not an ounce of objectivity.

 
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