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July 13 2017 at 7:19 PM
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1 Society Beau (KY) 3/C L J Graham 121 N J Howard 15/1

2 Irap (KY) 3/C L M Gutierrez 124 D F O'Neill 8/5

3 Wild Shot (KY) 3/C L C J Lanerie 124 G R Arnold, II 8/1

4 Brockton George (FL) 3/C L M R Cruz 117 K G McPeek 15/1

5 Hollywood Handsome (KY) 3/C L F Geroux 121 D Stewart 8/1

6 Han Sense (IA) 3/C L J Bravo 117 M J Maker 12/1

7 Top Credentials (KY) 3/C L R A Prescott 117 J T Spicer 30/1

8 Awesome Saturday (KY) 3/C L B J Hernandez, Jr. 121 W B Calhoun 8/1

9 Untrapped (KY) 3/C L R Santana, Jr. 117 S M Asmussen 6/1

10 Colonelsdarktemper (KY) 3/C L J K Court 117 W H Fires 10/1
11 Watch Me Whip (KY) 3/C L R Albarado 117 D L Romans 10/1

Interesting field. Would think Court goes on Colonelsdarktemper and Hernandez, jr may go as well. Easily can see Irap getting shuffled here.

 
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Re: Indiana Derby

July 13 2017, 7:24 PM 

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoroughbred-racing/irap-draws-post-2-installed-8-5-morning-line-favorite-indiana-derby/

“We are really happy about his ground-saving post,” said O'Neill via text following the draw. “He's doing really well.”

Irap arrived at Indiana Grand Sunday, July 9 and has had the opportunity to get on Indiana Grand's oval this week in preparation for Saturday's race. The royally-bred son of Tiznow will face second choice Untrapped again, who finished third to him in the Ohio Derby.

Trained by Steve Asmussen, Untrapped also competed in this year's Kentucky Derby, finishing 12th. The Trappe Shot colt, owned by Michael Langford, has been selected as the second choice on the morning line at odds of 6-1 and will begin from post nine with Jockey Ricardo Santana Jr. aboard.

The Indiana Derby will also have some crossover horsepower as Hall of Fame Indy Car Driver A.J. Foyt will have a horse in the field. Foyt owns Colonelsdarktemper, who finished second in his last start in the Grade III Matt Winn at Churchill Downs. Trained by William “Jinks” Fires, the Colonel John colt will be ridden by two-time Indiana Derby winning jockey Jon Court from post 10 at odds of 10-1.

“At least we didn't draw the one,” said Court, who thinks his outside post works in his favor since the horse to beat (Irap) drew inside. “I can dictate a little bit how I can place myself. Hopefully, we'll come up with a strategy and we can execute it. If not, we'll go to Plan B. Sometimes Place C comes into play.”

Another horse that will get early play in the Indiana Derby field is Awesome Saturday, who starts from post eight with jockey Brian Hernandez Jr. aboard. The Any Given Saturday colt has a very impressive win in his last start at Churchill Downs and will be making his first start against stakes company in Saturday's Indiana Derby.

“Sounds like there's a bit of speed in there,” said Brian Hernandez Jr. “Being somewhat on the outside, we'll be able to see what everybody else does going into the first turn.”

 
 
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Re: Indiana Derby

July 13 2017, 7:27 PM 

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoroughbred-racing/untrapped-looking-take-irap-saturdays-indiana-derby/

Untrapped is a son of Trappe Shot out of a Giant's Causeway mare. His co-breeder is Hall of Fame trainer Jonathan Sheppard, perhaps best known for his great steeplechase horses. The dark bay colt off a big win sprinting was second in the Fair Grounds' Lecomte (G3) and Risen Star (G2) and third in Oaklawn's Rebel (G2).

The colt tuned up for the Indiana Derby with a typical half-mile in 50 3/5 seconds workout Monday that Asmussen's horses generally have five days before a race.

“He's a beautiful horse, absolutely gorgeous and a very good mover,” Asmussen said. “He's done well, but you easily think he's capable of doing better.”

Because of that, just what is Untrapped's forte is “still evolving to a degree,” he said.

“Early on, the condition he was in, he didn't stay on to the wire as well as he appeared to stay on in Ohio,” Asmussen said. “With that being a mile and an eighth race and we're backing up to a mile and a sixteenth, we're hoping for a little better position that he had early in that race.”

 
 
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Re: Indiana Derby

July 14 2017, 8:07 AM 

Untrapped lost ground in the stretch again at Thistledown.

It sure seems like his best distance will be on the cutback to one turn.
He continues to pick up checks routing but at some point they need to turn him back.

I gave up on him after the Ark Derby going long.

I suppose if Irap bounces,Wild Shot(another Trappe Shot)doesn't run an A race at the distance,and none of the others improve he could win here but I can't bet him.Most likely he'd have to improve which at two turns I can't support.

I might take a shot on the lightly raced #11 Watch Me Whip to run better in his 4th start otherwise there isn't much of a bet in here at the ML odds.

#1 Society Beau needs a hot pace and maybe more distance.
Pace might be legit if Wild Shot is sent and some of those with outside posts are ridden aggressively.
He could be a horse to use underneath somewhere.

 
 
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July 15 2017, 2:15 PM 

I've been wanting to use Hollywood Handsome for a while. Putting a W/P on him.

Exotic: Play with Untrapped, Irap, Society Beau


Edit: Society Beau scratched. Replace with Wild Shot.


    
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Re: Indiana Derby

July 15 2017, 2:27 PM 

#1 Society Beau, has scratched.

 
 
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Re: Indiana Derby

July 15 2017, 3:08 PM 

I was going w/Society Beau so now will take Colonelsdarktemper. Think he will get a great trip but not sure he's good enough.

 
 
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Re: Indiana Derby

July 15 2017, 4:40 PM 

Played Watch Me Whip to run 1-2.

Gets weight and was supplemented here.
Projecting improvement in only his 4th start.



 
 
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Re: Indiana Derby

July 15 2017, 10:32 PM 

I think I will take a mini break for August. Getting old being "wrong" lately LOL

I was even wrong about Race 8. I played the #5 and the #8. And longshot #1 won.


I won a jackpot at casino last week. Walked up to a one armed bandit and hit after 5 spins to $2000 (was on my way to the horse racing side LOL).

Seems like my "random luck" is better than trying to use my brain lately. LOL


I hate August in Arkansas anyway. I feel like I accomplish nothing, it's so hot every single day.

 
 
 
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