What do you guys think to collagen-Iv been thinking about this for a while
Since massage and NBE i have realised our breasts are like sponges,it doesnt seem to matter how much boobie batter is applyed, it still soaks in.
Now iv seen products on the market with collagen in,for the face skin etc, what do you think about adding this in massage, this is what i found out, and it seems to back up my theory on it.
Collagen is the main protein of connective tissue in animals and the most abundant protein in mammals, making up about 25% of the total. It is one of the long, fibrous structural proteins whose functions are quite different from those of globular proteins such as enzymes. Strong, tough bundles of collagen called collagen fibers are a major component of the extracellular matrix that supports most tissues and gives cells structure from the outside, but collagen is also found inside certain cells. Collagen has great tensile strength, and is the main component of cartilage, ligaments, tendons, bone and teeth. Along with soft keratin, it is responsible for skin strength and elasticity, and its degradation leads to wrinkles that accompany aging. It strengthens blood vessels and plays a role in tissue development. It is present in the cornea and lens of the eye in crystalline form. It is also used in cosmetic surgery and burns surgery.
More info-you can buy collagen in 400mg pills which have these ingredients:Hydrolysed Collagen 400mg, Excipients of Dicalcium Phosphate, Silicon Dioxide, Magnesium Stearate, Microcrystalline Cellulose.
These pills said Derived from fish source 94.7% protein.
During NBE it seems to be reccomended to up protien in take could this help also?
i have found out some more info about collagen-Abit scarey on one part becuase, it brings back the previous worries regarding BO, il put what i found out:
The cosmetic use of collagens is declining because:
1. there is a fairly high rate of allergic reactions causing prolonged redness and requiring inconspicuous patch testing prior to cosmetic use, and
2. most medical collagen is derived from cows, posing the risk of transmitting prion diseases like BSE
3. alternatives using the patient's own fat or hyaluronic acid are readily available.
Now a PRION DESEASE IS:short for proteinaceous infectious particle,is a type of infectious agent made only of protein. Prions are believed to infect and propagate by refolding abnormally into a structure which is able to convert normal molecules of the protein into the abnormally structured form, and they are generally quite resistant to denaturation by protease, heat, radiation, and formalin treatments, although potency or infectivity can be reduced. The term does not, however, a priori preclude other mechanisms of transmission.
Although genetic research may shed light on prions, they are not a genetic disease.
Now presuably BO ,as it is mad from cows would also carry these risks.
Thanks GingerD for your informative info. :) I too have been thinking that Collagen is prob a good asset to the whole nbe process. Since comparing other breast creams, pills and such, the ones that always stand out to me are the ones that have different products from everyone else. Like the one cream from the phillipines that we aren't sure on whether it works or not, has collagen (& elasin in it as one of the main ingredients), Also the 'supershine' product mentioned on here made by Japan, has collagen in it also. So I'm wondering do Asian makers of these products know something we don't know?? I mean look at fengshui and tigerlily's progress they've had just on eating the right boobie foods and doing the right massages (pressure points, and chinese tai chi,etc)
But the info you found on collagen is a bit scary. I even found a cream with collagen in it online that says it's from US bovine sources. so wonderin if that's safe.
but also I remember someone on here talking about an asian girl growing 3 cup sizes in like 3 months that was doing a few things and one of them was taking hydrolyzed collagen supplements and foods. So it does seem beneficial.
I found a liquid hydrolyzed collagen supplement on iherb.com that i'm thinking about trying later on.
Corrie,
i don't know if gelatin poses the same risks or not, but it does seem to help with growth for some (like fengshui and I'm not sure but prob tigerlily also) and jellydeee also added it to her program towards the end before stopping the herbs not too long ago and shortly after adding the gelatine she reached a D cup. So that was enough for me to add it to my program. :) i buy the Gelatine Knox for nails from walgreens, but I don't drink it everyday since one box only has 14 packets and it's $8 a pop. Can't afford to keep buying it all the time along with everything else. So I drink it every other day, funny thing is when I don't drink it, I don't have as many aches and pains in my breasts as I do when I drink it.
also, i found more info on BSE for anyone interested
November 7 2006, 6:31 PM
here's a link about BSE, I think the info is a little old, but it does provide a lot of answers to questions we might have, like what countries have reported it, if its found in US, how it's spread, etc. very interesting, I haven't read through it all yet though.
Gelatin is bad, period. I don't even know how the hell it got to be rumored that is good for you. Gelatin is disgusting, it's just a waste by product of the meat industry.
One way you can increase collagen naturally is to increase your daily intake of vitamin C. Vitamin C is a precursor to collagen in our bodies.
I have never read a study that confirms vitamin C as having an effect on breast size, however, it stands to reason that if an increase in collagen can improve breast size or tone, then vitamin C may help.
As a part of my routine I take large amounts of it, and also for general health. Linus Pauling wrote extensively about this vitamin. It is virtually non-toxic, even at very high levels and can be very helpful for a variety of conditions. I believe it is helping me with NBE.
Hi, chelle-Thankyou for your reply-I have decided i am going to order some coloagen pills- made from fish not cows-I am going to add it to my boobie batter and take the pills every other day to see how it works, as i have braught it up i may as well be the guinie pig-Il keep you up dated on how well it works for me
Waxingmoon-Thankyou for the info-I do have a very high itake of vitamin C in my diet but its worth adding more if it may help with my routine.
are you going to take the collagen in addition to the bo? do you think that is something that we could do? think it is safe?
i want to experiment, but i want to make sure i am getting real results first, of course! ha! i really need to go buy myself a cloth tape measure... i swear there isnt a single one in this country...
is the best stuff on earth! it has the collgen type two derived from rooster crowns - and it plumps up wherever you need plumping and moisterizing - lips, dry feet - fine lines
please could you tell me more about hydraplenish???? I found natures way pills, is that what you meant ??? Im intrigued and could do with ironing some lines !!!! love jelly......
hyaluronic acid that does the plumping along with the collagen type II?-Hi could you tell me what you mean by that i don't understand
Cheers GingerD
Sissy (no login)
To: Rkai93 regarding Hydraplenish
November 22 2006, 12:37 AM
After reading what you said, I ordered Hydraplenish and received them today. They are very expensive, but I am on a mission now to get healthy and turn back time (grow my boobs back too, via BB).
Can you tell me what they did for you, like skin and plumping? I would be happy if I could just keep my skin from getting so dry this winter. How long it took to see any results? Did you start by taking so many daily, or after they started working did you decide to take more?
start by taking three at night before bed the first night - then 2 in the AM and 2 at night every day thereafter - that's the way the instructions say for instense use.
How expensive? i dont knwo where you are, but if you order form Vitacost or Iherb, i think it's like 11.00 a bottle (USD)
i did a search on vitamin world for collagen and they have a new product 'liquid' collagen 16 oz for 24 dollars. i think i will pick this up next friday.
Sissy (no login)
Hydraplenish
November 23 2006, 8:34 AM
I'm in USA. I went back and looked at my invoice, it was almost $18 for 60 caps, taking 4 per day is around $32 per month. I'm not poor, but between the BB and this, I am feeling guilty spending the money on myself with a kid in college eating hamburgers & mac because I have him on a grocery budget, lol. I am still going to see if it helps, taking collagen does make sense.
Hi D- it seems a really good product to me as well, ebay item number 180055449652
Iv also found it on their website but its alot more expensiv than ebaye-Iv asked ebay seller how many pills are in each tub to see if its a smaller tub than the actual site:http://www.col-eazeshop.co.uk/onlineorder.html
"Remember however that Collagen II will help every area of your body that can become victim to the signs of ageing - including helping to firm up BREASTS and eradicate CELLULITE."
Sounds great, cheers for the info Ginger !!!!!!!! ;)))
But WOW, the difference in price between the two, is shockingly huge!!! (from £36 to £6.95 ???)
It does seem to be the very same product, ebay also says it's 1 month trial, so it seems to be the same...?
I know 350mg doesn't sound like a lot,
(Hydraplenish for example has BioCell Collagen II = 1.000mg
PROVIDING Hydrolyzed Collagen Type II = 600mg
and recommended daily dosage is 2 caps daily or 4(!) for "intensive use")
~ Have you found how many tablets is the recommended daily dose for Col-Ease?? Haven't managed to find any Directions for daily dosage myself....
~ Another thing: did you understand which source this collagen in Col-Ease is actually from? From what I saw, they only state that Collagen 2 is a 100% natural source of absorbable collagen protein and refer to the conditions under which their product is made to make it as near as it can be to our own collagen so that it is readily absorbed by our body. They refer to various common sources of collagen (all of them!plant/fish/bovine) but do not state which source their collagen is made from..? Unless I missed the info...
Hi Hellen-The seller has still not replyed yet, but when they do i will let you know,Thanks for your imput-I have to agree how can the prodcut be so much cheaper than the actual site.
Hi hellen and who ever else may be interested this is the reply from the ebay seller:
Hello
There is 90 capsules and they last 1 month. For best results tale them in the evening
Mark
So i asume its the same as the site,one thing i have wondered which may be alittle paranoid is could they get the tubs and put what ever they wanted in them?-I doubt thats the case, so should i bite the bullet and buy or should i go for 100%collagen, in bigger milligrams
Hi ginger,
thanks so much girlie for the info :) Wow it IS the same product...
this offer is so tempting, it's a bargain!!!
...I wonder how much this offer will last, cause all collagen products I've found while researching are so darn expensive :'( there's no way I could afford them...
Keep us posted if you go ahead and try it will you plz?
Now I understand your "paranoia" -same here- all I can say is, don't forget to make sure it was PROPERLY sealed and everything before you first open it ok???
Lots of Boobie Blessings,
Helen xx
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