Hey ladies! Once again, I've come to ask for your help please and thanks :)
Okay well I started my program on October 2nd, 2006. I took the following once a day:
1 Saw Palmetto - 1600 mg from 160 mg extract (Eve explained this to me but I forgot hehe , sorry !)
1 Fenugreek - 610 mg
1 Evening Primose - 1000 mg
I did that routine until October 4th when I decided to add one more Fenugreek capsule, so my routine was:
1 Saw Palmetto - 1600 mg from 160 mg extract
2 Fenugreek - 610 mg each so 1220 mg in total
1 Evening Primrose - 1000 mg
I continued that previous program until October 30th where I decided to take the herbs 2 times a day, once in the morning/afternoon and once in the early evening/before bed (depending when I would remember). My daily consumption became:
2 Saw Palmetto - 3200 mg from 320 extract ?
4 Fenugreek - 2440 mg
2 Evening Primrose - 2000 mg
I've continued the last program up until now. I ran out of Fenugreek this weekend and I had to miss 3 doses of Fenugreek. Today I went and bought another bottle of Fenugreek (610 mg) along with a bottle of Fennel (480 mg). Is there any advice that you knowledgable ladies would give me to improve or correct my program? I'm not too sure what else I should do, I haven't really experienced any growth, only an improvement in my menstrual symptoms, but it's only been a bit over one month so I guess it's expected to not really receive any great results. I remember having pains during the first few days of taking herbs but nothing after that. I don't massage that often either because I don't have any time, forget, or am too lazy. I'm trying to add a little massage with cocoa butter in right before bed but I won't be massaging that much. Should I add Fennel into my program along with the Fenugreek? I've noticed that I've gained probably a pound or two but that's been happening before I took herbs so I'm not too worried about gaining weight.
Today I plan to continue with what I've been doing until I receive any advice haha :) I don't know what else to do so yup! Oh yes, also my stats are:
Height: 5"3-4
Weight: 105
Band Size: 32
Cup Size: Most likely a AA (I wear a padded bra so I wouldn't know for sure .. how embarassing!)
Phew! That was a lot of typing. I hope someone will still give me some advice even though that is a long read, sorry! But thanks so much for the advice you've all given me so far, I really appreciate it!
Another question sorry hehe .. I was just wondering, if you miss a dose of herbs, would it be okay to take it again along with your later dose? Like lets say I forget to take the herbs in the morning, would it be okay to take them at night along with the herbs I would normally take at night?
No, never double dose! That's dangerous. If you skip a pill -- oh well. It's not the end of the world, and it won't stunt your boobie growth. So no worries. But yeah... it's like with any medicine, how they tell you never to double-up on dosage. Same thing applies to herbs because it's messing with your body just the same as meds do.
I agree, you should not be taking any double doses. The body needs a regular supply, not big amounts in one go. By the way, I think the general idea is to type all that personal information into a program page, which you can make for yourself. It's more visible that way and easier for other people to find and comment on.
well i'm not certainly an expert here but surely i can say that your fenugreek intake is too much for AA (i am AAA and take 2x610 fenugreek per day) and in that early beginning. sawpalmetto depends on your androgens level. Suggest u to take some online tests, u should find addresses after a bit of research.
The principle goes that u should ramp up slowly the estrogens and stop there when noticing growing pains which for u was in the very beginning.
as for missing doses i dont think it's a big problem since i myself have hreb-free days every 1 and 14th day of cycle to clean the receptors.
i'm not sure of course but it could be that u have stalled a bit and probably need a day or two break. U may get pains while off herbs these days but this is just to convince u were stalled a bit.
Anyway i hope there a more experienced ladies here soon to give a better advice maybe :)
Yeah, sounds like you've ramped up kind of quickly. I did the same thing, started on high doses and felt some soreness and tingles at first and then kind of stalled. So now I've ramped back down...you can see my program page under Corrie's Program. It's fairly similar to yours. Someone on this forum said that EPO is not the best, so I stopped taking that and substituted a mixture of flax, fish and borage oil. After I made these changes (ramping down and switching oils) I noticed growth again. Also, I think the massages, especially with cocoa butter, are very important -- BUT I only massage for about 5 minutes twice a day, so it doesn't have to be very time consuming.
Wow, thanks for all the replies! Ah okay I haven't double dosed yet so phew! I'm glad I found that out haha thanks :) But okay, I'll make a personal program page then :) I was planning to .. but I wasn't sure if anyone would really look there :\ I'll lower my fenugreek in take to 2 pills a day as well. I guess I got too excited and eager to grow! >< Yeah..I read that EPO wasn't that good either .. but I have a lot of EPO pills left. I bought a bottle of 180 a while ago .. ahh. I'm planning to just use them until they run out then buy borage pills or something that seems to work better. Thanks so much again ladies! Best of luck to all of you :)
a couple things to ask! Haha, silly me. Um okay well, I was just wondering where I could find some online links to those tests to find out more about my hormone levels, please and thank you! Also, is there any more advice that anyone could give me? Sorry, I feel somewhat lost and confused >< I guess I'm too impatient :\
you can always massage with the epo... i do that instead of taking it internally.... i take borage and flax internally, so i massage with the epo once or sometimes twice a day...
Hi emmie :) Thanks for the suggestion! But I used to massage with EPO but it made me , my bra , and my shirts smell really bad >< For some reason my EPO gives off and odor .. does yours? I've heard from some girls that theirs doesn't smell.
i hate the smell of it! im glad im not the only one... i usually only use it at night unless i know i wont see anyone that day... since my husband isnt here with me i can do it at night without a problem. also i put it on, then use some heat, then put some cocoa butter on, which helps a bit with the stink too... now im going to experiment with soy too, so we will see how bad that stinks...
