Yeah, u read that right...after all the massages and taking herbs, i am just losing hope that it could work for me...maybe its my hormones making me so negative (having my periods) but i really feel like i'm putting too much effort for nothing :(
Any help that'll keep me going on? Kinda gets tiresome when things dont work for too long...whereas other pplz have it naturally...not fair :(
How long have you been trying? I was on two unsucessful routines so far, first was a low quality comercail product, as I didn't know anything about NBE at that time yet, and second was 5 months on separate herbs. I did lots of research and tried to figure out what was keeping me from growing and I think I might have found the answer and now on my new routine I'm getting some good signs. NBE recquires lots of patience. Maybe it's good to get into it without very high expectation and just do it if it works great, if it doesn't oh well.
have you written out your stats and record of what youve taken so far ???? if not please have a good think about what you did and in what order and amounts !!!, also your age, weight, health issues etc.... and Im sure you will get some help here !!!!Dont give up yet girl !!!! this journey is long and rocky and we all know that on this forum. so you have our full support love jellyDeee...
elle (no login)
Re: Losing hope..
November 20 2006, 10:47 AM
hey don't give up hope, try to explain your circumstance to everyone and i think ull find they will be full of information. i think some people hav felt down and like giving up and then seen results. my results arnt drastic but i have seen results after being on wu, before that i was trying other things and really thinking that nothing would ever effect my breasts. it can depend upon wat ur routeen is + i think hormones play a good part in putting you down around your period xxxxx
Honey, please don't give up. Do that for yourself and for everyone who is trying as hard as you are. What has been your program by the way? We will try to help you and we are sure you are gonna do it! Love, April
You more you stress and dwell on thinking you are not growing the more the universe will give you just that, make you not grow. You must think positive and have the end result in mind and BELIEVE that you're going to get there. Take a break. Stop all herbs, get yourself in a positive and happy frame of mind, then try again. You might consider trying Bovine Ovary instead if herbs are not working for you. Some women on the forum grew from massage alone but it does take time. NBE can work for anyone if you only believe... Get on the success bandwagon, you can do it!
"Whether you think you can or you can't either way you are right." Henry Ford
Chikida (no login)
Thanks...
November 21 2006, 6:47 PM
Hey gals...all of u...thank you so much....yeah, i've still stuck with the program 2x3 SP (450), Vit E 100, ran out of Flax oil, dunno if that helps.. and massaging once a day..before it was twice but i just dont think its making a difference....I'm a vegetarian and hence cannot take chicken feet and the rest of non veg stuff...incld gelatin.
I've got broad hips but nothing on top to support, so it looks even weird. And yeah, my BMI is 18.9, weight is 58kgs, heigh 5'9". Stats are 32-25-38.
I've started walking 20 mins a day and am trying to increase my fat intake as i dont wanna lose weight, just wanna reduce my hips n thats it. Can you gals suggest some food for gaining weight? All veg tho :S I cant find Fenugreek in any store here, will look for powder form...
Take care and hope to see some difference after fenugreek....love to all you gals...and jellyDee....really hoping for a miracle like urs....
if you lose hope, then even if you have progress you wont see it because your mind wont want to believe it is there.
what i do is this: in the morning first thing when i get up i take about 15 minutes and i just think about my boobs. i think about not where they are now, but where they are GOING to be when i am done with my regimine. i think about how nice it will be, what it may look like, and i get myself positive. i dont think about what i WANT them to be or what they MIGHT be, but what they WILL be.
it really helps me... the mind is powerful, young padawan... the force is strong in you. use it, jedi!
Since you are a vegetarian, nuts have a lot of fat in them. Try some almond butter or just eat more nuts to gain weight. Since you are bottom heavy to begin with I don't know if it's a good idea to take fenugreek, since it has one of the highest amount of phytoestrogen. Estrogen is responsible for all the below the waist weight gain according to Dr. Wong's article at:
Hi!
You're not alone. :) I'm on my second NBE now. I did Eve's program first for 3 month but it didn't work for me. I have been taking Wonderup and bovine ovary pills together for two months. Also finished 5 or 6 box of wonderup before bovine ovary pills. I have some pains but not a growth yet! :( But I have decided about I will find the true way for me. Don't lose your hope!
Good luck!
you said that you found out what was preventing your growth... care to share? it might be something that prevents many of us from growing....
thanks!
mark (no login)
Re: Losing hope..
November 24 2006, 10:42 AM
Hi Chikida,
I am veggie too, glad to meet you. i thought that the protein/fat intake might be a bit of problem for me because i'm vegetarian, anyway since starting on this i started eating lost of nuts and seeds (almond, cashew, pumkin, sunflower...), i think altogether i eat between half a bowl to a full bowl a day, i also use a lot of olive oil in my food, and i'm sure it helps. i excercise most days, so that stops me from gaining weight and i'm sure that if you do 20min of excersise a day it will help you
good luck and happy growing
how are you doing? i'm interested how is your progress as a vegetarian. Just read in BeBoard that vegetarians have never had any progress and was wondering if it's true or not. I eat chicken and fish occasionally but never really red meat. But suppose i could start if it meant larger boobs. Can u comment this please? My routine has not been successful for 3 months and i have no idea what could be the cause.
What they say on the BE board about vegetarians being failures at growing boobs is a load of bunkum!
I see absolutely no scientific reasoning behind omnivores gaining more breast tissue than herbivores. Especially since 2/3 of the world's population are vegetarian. (though not usually by choice).
the explanation given was GLA which is difficult to get if not eating red meat. Altough u can get one from EPO and borageoil.i really don't kow that's why i'm asking
i just read your post.i'm finding my progress slow, but i think there is a progress, bra definetely looks fuller and i notice difference on pictures as well. i was woried about not having enogh protein and fats, but i've been eating lots of seeds and nuts, so i hope that this will supplement my diet, i also added flax seed oil yesterday, the reason why i'm taking flax seed oil and not EPO or borage is: i think EPO is not good for me, tried it before and had paiful ovulation and period, and i can't find borage oil that wouldn't be in gelatine capsules. if anyone knows where to find veggie BO please share it with me!
i can't see why vegetarians couldn't have succes with NBE, you just need to make sure that you have a healthy diet, it is possible to put on weight even on a veggie diet so why would'n it be possible to grow boobs?!
i don't think you should have problem anyway, since you eat fish and chicken, they are both supposed to be good for NBE
Happy growing, hugs from mark
Can someone tell me what GLA stands for? I would like to research this further but when I put in GLA in google it doesn't really come up with anything relevant.
i know i felt the same with all the nuts and seeds we could grow well but i have struggled 3 months now and i can't figure out what could be wrong. i have very little sensations once in a while and reading about the soreness and tingles everyone's having i become very depressed. it makes me even impossible to visualise cos i feel i'm fooling myself. i know there are some people to whom it just doesn't work and i wish i knew that for sure. i feel so down these days that i even started to think about surgery. and it's not that i want big boobs i just want to look a bit more normal and not just with nipples.i really don't know what to do.
i don't exactly know what Gla is either but it is supposed to support aromatisation from testosterone to estrogen in boobs. i could try look it up on Be Board cos there i found about it in the first place.
sorry in advance if i had wrong spelling somewhere
GLA stands for gama linoleic acid and i think it has to do with transforming fat in the body
bonnette, i'm sorry to hear that NBE is not working for you. i think it is doing something for me, even though i'm not having fast progress like those people who gain an inch in a month, my boobs were really sore for a couple of weeks and even bfriend said they look and feel bigger, so i don't think it's the diet. plus you said you eat fish and chicken and i'm not convinced that eating red meat is necessary, do you take borage oil or EPO? i am sure that there is something that would work for you, maybe try changing your routine a bit or take something to help digestion
i just looked at your program and i thought maybe you are taking too much EPO. someone here mentioned that it stops swelling and could stall growth in the beginning. i used to take it as well (before NBE) and remember only taking one capsule at a time. you can try that and see if it helps, i'm sure there is something that will work
hugs, mark
i have been wondering about EPO as well but then gain read how it really helped somebody, don't really know. the thing is that i can't find borage oil and Epo stands for my GLA intake. But i will try smaller dose and see what happens. Confusing thing is i had tingles in the very beginning (but they passed without changing quantities) so i do know what to look for. Strange is yesterday i was to a party late in the evening and there having some coctails i startet to feel stbbing in my chest very clearly for some time but don't really know why. i missed intentionally fenugreek yesterday and took only sawpalmetto and wildyam cos i had the lump-kind-of-thing (not sure if a lump or just tissue) before my period and thought maybe estrogens are not for me.i don't know i feel so confused now.
To add something in GLA - this and other essential fatty acids if I'm not mistaking are necesary for the function of aromatase, a very imortant enzyme to us doing NBE - it transforms testosteron into estregen. That's why it's best to not go too high on SP (since it reduces testosterone) and take enough of whatever oil; borage or EPO.
