With regret i want to share with you guys that from today after 2 month on NBE, i decide to stop my program. The reason for this is my acne have been worse since i started NBE. i was taking fenugreek, fennel, epo, flaxseed, wildyam and sp each 3 gr/day, and im seeing the result even though it's slightly difference. Im so sad, because everybody did not notice my 'boobs' but they always gave comment about my face. Im so confuse, which of the herbs cause the acne, i tried to stop taking epo for a week, but my acne still grow.

Are you sure you really want to quit NBE Lemon? Seems such a shame if you are beginning to see results already.

From what you've been taking, I would say that EPO may be the culprit to your acne. Whenever I have used it, it's done the same thing to me and have heard of lots of girls get spotty on it too.

You could try cutting out EPO. If you take 15mg zinc, vit C, lots of fresh veggies & fruit (organic is best if you can get it), lots of water........and most importantly - cut out all refined sugar products from your diet as sugar raises testosterone levels causing more spots.....then I'm pretty sure your skin will be much clearer.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck.

Love

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hey hey hey

i would so much try to convince u to go on and maybe increase your sawpalmetto doses a bit. i had a bit of acne before my program but ever since starting with fenu, EPO and sawpalmetto my skin is glowing really. i know EPO can cause different reactions but Sawpalmetto should be good in any case if elevated androgens. I think it was Lisa who also mentioned having troubles with acne but she managed to solve it somehow. Check out her personal program and feel incouraged again.

i have been on my program for 3 months but no growth despite my skin being better so i think u shouldn't really quit with your progress.

Best,

Bonnette

You really didn't have to go off NBE, only change your herbs. We can't say with 100% certainity what herbs would be the right combination for you, but there's enough info for you to make a very good guess. You should try to figure out the circumstance in your body the best as possible, your hormonal (im)ballance and such. Acne is caused by two main factors - excess androgens and toxins in the body. Saw palmetto is known to get rid of excess androgens. Red clover is known to help with acne, because it has the best cleansing properties, as well as it's a great NBE herb rich with phytoestrogens. Also drinking lots of water cleans out toxisn from your body and improves acne condition.
You took two high estrogenic herbs - fenugreek and fennel, which maybe isn't necessary. I think SP and RC would be probably a good try for you, especially if you do have excess androgens. There was a site that helped you determine your hormones with a series of symptoms, but unfortunately I don't remeber the link...

EPO may cause acne to young girls, it has better results on women who are going through menopause. I would cut with EPO. Borage Oil is better for young girls.

Mantain only one from fennel and fennugreek, they have the same action and may being get you too high dosages of phytoestrogens.

Keep on SP and only one from fennel/fennugreek, and see what happens.

Aloe Vera taken internally is really helpful on acne because it has a purifying action. It doesn't have a specific role on NBE, but you will surely notice your skin much better in less than a week.

People like us, willfull and determinated, never give up, honey. Give it a try.

Oh, yesterday I left a link about the way we should use phytoestrogens, in order to avoid side-effects (acne could be one of those effects) - maybe you should take it a look?

Love, April Anna


PS: It's working for me!!! Thank you everyone for your encouragement!!

In my opinion you're taking these herbs on really high doses. 3g a day of each herb, is in my opinion a lot. When I started NBE I noticed I began to have acne. I never had pimples before not even in my teens, and now in the middle of my cycle I always get a few, arggh! After quite some changes in my routine I found out the main culprit to be fenugreek. If you don't want to quit NBE, you can introduce some changes on your program and see how it goes. If I were you I would reduce the dosage on fenugreek and the other herbs to 2 or 3x 610mg a day.

hey, just remembered did u include zink to your routine? it is said that zink is very good for problematic skin and in general as well.

^ I believe it's spelled zinc. At least here it is.

Lemon, I can't tell you what to do, but if I were you I would take a break, let my skin heal (as well as my depression or sadness) and then try NBE again. It's strange what these herbs can do to some people, I know...but there's a right combination out there for you. I believe there is for everyone. Plants are very powerful and we all are basically guinea pigs in this but we are also here to support and help each other, and we are all here for you.

Let us know how you are doing.

Another cracking spelling correction from Alcecet i see-

Hey Lemon iv only just seen your post-Oh mate i know its hard, i don't have acne but my face has broken out terribly for the past few months on NBE iv posted a few threads about it.
Iv coppied some advice recived on my thread and others that i found most relevent to you.
Hay-At least your not bloating like me as well-im getting boobs but all anyone coments on is the 10pound iv put on ggggrrrrrrrrrrrr, and my dad finds it help ful to keep booking me facials-which arnt helping at all

BITS OF INFO THAT COULD HELP

try using aloe vera gel on your skin, that has helped me

tea tree oil is like a miracle

i used the proactive a little over 2 months. i belive that it only works on some skin types

doctor and he gave me a prescription for erythomycin-benzoyl peroxide topical gel.

One word: Proactiv! I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but I think the website os proactiv.com.

Another thread that may interest you was BIG acne problem-Sorry but there are loads of posts could help abit.
It seems a shame if u r having results to stop-i was indissisive about stopping regarding my weight but the bigger boobs out weight the Fat thighs.

Hope it goes well what eva u decide :)

wait a bit. I found that initially I had acne but if you keep with the same dosage and same herbs your body should stablize. I also started using stridex pads 2xs a day and found that this helped too.