One more question for now.....it seems from what I've read fennugreek and fenel are for the same purpose, is the fenel really necessary say if you're taking 2400mg per day of fennugreek? Any opinions on this? I'm adjusting my program a bit and want to make sure I'm only taking what I need.

They are interchangeable. if you have side effects that you do not like such as tiredness. it is usually suggested taking fennel instead. good luck.

They are basically the same thing, but fenugreek is stronger. It has been said before that fenugreek can cause weight gain, and fennel can cause weight loss. So, if you're skinny and want to gain some weight you should try fenugreek; if you're concerned about gaining wieght you should try fennel, or a combination of the two.